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Guitar Bracing Explained 

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In this video, our luthier Adrian Farmer explains what bracing is and what makes it so incredibly important to acoustic guitars! He'll discuss all the different kinds of bracing and explain which one's (might be) best for you. Enjoy!
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@pcbif
@pcbif 3 года назад
Thanks a million, that was the best discussion of bracing I've ever heard. You guys are real pros.
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Thank you! Always happy to help :)
@hellopsp180
@hellopsp180 Год назад
Thanks for this amazing resource Scalloped bracing = less stiffness = more volume Stiffer unscalloped = more sustain and less volume
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Glad to help!
@eildertvinkenborg4761
@eildertvinkenborg4761 7 месяцев назад
Tell me more about cedar and spruce. Thank you!
@miahconnell23
@miahconnell23 6 месяцев назад
My guitar teacher told me he liked the warm tones from a cedar topped guitar I bought. It DOES have warm pleasant tones, I agree. But, I wasn’t able to choose spruce (as I wanted). My life’s battle-24/7-365- is righteously questing for guitars that grant equality to all six strings. Through various testing methods, you can find out which strings are your guitar’s favourite children. For FAR too much of my life, I’ve lived with the A string and the wound E dominating, and I am DONE with that sh**. Spruce is stiffer & brighter, and its treble- love CAN sound ugly. I admit it. But your high E and your B string are less likely to get lost. I believe (excluding all other factors for the sake of this talk) that spruce is usually more egalitarian regarding wound & unwound strings. Wound-string “squeek” is louder with spruce, but that’s not the guitar’s fault: we ALL should be practicing our playing to avoid / eliminante that. For me-personally-I’d trade or exchange cedar’s warmth for spruce’s articulate clarity.
@gerhardkemper9830
@gerhardkemper9830 10 дней назад
Great explanation Adrian.👍
@tomdaoust
@tomdaoust 5 месяцев назад
Wonderful explanation, short and sweet. I'm a new owner of. 2019 Martin D-18 and i love to understand the technical and physics aspects of my beautiful instrument. Thanks for sharing.
@bishopk99
@bishopk99 Год назад
Adrian! You nailed this lesson. Thanks so much for taking the time to break it down for Charlie Brown! I appreciate it. So complex but your delivery is very comprehensive. Awesome!
@d35s2
@d35s2 Месяц назад
excellent Adrian. I have shared it among the pupils of my HTL School for stringed Musical instruments in Hallstatt / Austria. One little - interesting thing. Kalamazoo is not always the best example for ladder bracing, maybe either Kay, Harmony etc. As you might remember, the Kalamazoo KG21 of my father, for which you built new sides, had a combination of ladder bracing and cross bracing..... I measured that same guitar, explained how it possibly could have been designed by Gibson - measures loosly based on the older Gibson L00 etc - measuring all possible distances, vonstructing circles and seeing the relations between the dadius of the circles etc and also explaned the bracing. The Kalamazoo has an X bracing with some rudiments of ladder bracing, very interesting design, which still sounds and holds up very well, ever since 1937! Best wishes Adrian and thanks for the good work!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Месяц назад
Thanks for sharing! Adrian sends you best wishes as well! 😄
@agenuineg
@agenuineg Год назад
Outstanding! (And underrated, like a lot of true expertise.)
@patricksmith4424
@patricksmith4424 2 года назад
Excellent lesson on bracing. As someone who is hoping to make a guitar, this was seriously informative on the guitar top. There is not much information on this, so thanks for putting this up.
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Glad to help Patrick! Good luck (& fun) with building :)
@larrylong5367
@larrylong5367 2 года назад
Hey Adrian. Thanks a lot. This Video answered all of my questions rearding Guitar bracing Take care. Mike
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Glad to help Larry!
@danfrost7477
@danfrost7477 2 года назад
Love the way your accent has changed, love your work. ❤️
@jimcastillo8950
@jimcastillo8950 6 месяцев назад
Great education........... thank you.
@slpc30
@slpc30 Год назад
Wow thank you so much for this video!
@Ruigewaard
@Ruigewaard 3 года назад
Really liking this series
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Good to hear Joris! We'll keep them coming ;)
@renotitawano1407
@renotitawano1407 Год назад
Thanks Adrian, very helpful and well explained👍🏾
@martinlouden9005
@martinlouden9005 3 года назад
Very informative. Thanks for that.
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
You're welcome!
@MikeFowlerguitars
@MikeFowlerguitars Год назад
I did enjoy that. Cheers
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Thx Mike, cheers!
@behroozcompani2348
@behroozcompani2348 7 месяцев назад
Search for curfed bracing in US patents. Curfed braces can be used with any bracing patterns. They would accomodate the top to vibrate better than the regular braces.
@diegorhoenisch62
@diegorhoenisch62 6 месяцев назад
I suspect you mean kerfed.
@adachan7589
@adachan7589 Год назад
Thank you very much for sharing! So pro!
@UCS0608
@UCS0608 3 года назад
Great video, Adrian!!!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Thanks!
@mariomarcoustic7899
@mariomarcoustic7899 3 года назад
very informative. Thank you
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Thanks for the compliment Mario :)
@monasticphil5658
@monasticphil5658 3 года назад
Good info.Could you do a video on choice of woods different companies used for bracing.
@JoseSalas-wn7im
@JoseSalas-wn7im 3 года назад
Thank you for your presentation. Could you get into discussing the size or thickness of the braces and how it affects tone in your next video? Again thanks.
@robertlafave7256
@robertlafave7256 Год назад
😊 great video
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Thanks Robert :)
@EliNews
@EliNews 2 года назад
Thank you so much!
@AcousticFab
@AcousticFab 3 года назад
Best video ever
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Damn, thanks!
@JrgenRasmussen-ul8ck
@JrgenRasmussen-ul8ck 6 месяцев назад
Very informative video, thank you. I am building a OM guitar in spruce and rosewood and want to produce a “crisp, dry and woody” base sound. How do I shape the brasing to get that? I work with a “Martin” X brace. Thanks again Jørgen, Denmark
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 5 месяцев назад
That's the quest many luthiers are on! It is often said that with less material, you'll get more bass response. But there are many, many ways to do the bracing, so it will be a process of testing and experimenting.
@GamerPro__7
@GamerPro__7 2 года назад
Hi Adrian! I believe v-class bracing has really improve intonation and sustain, however overtones became less complex and bass frequencies are not amazing to say the least. What are the changes that needed to be applied on the bracing so we get back those complex overtones?. I really hope Taylor do something about that. Everything else on Taylor Guitars is amazing, they are excellent in every feature, but those are my only complains (unfortunately very important ones). Great video! Very informative.
@andihart9837
@andihart9837 2 года назад
Thank you for your education about guitar bracing. Could you explain about C class bracing?
@markseverson3358
@markseverson3358 10 месяцев назад
Your couch is perfectly fine!!!!!
@NickWendelsGuitarLessons
@NickWendelsGuitarLessons 3 года назад
Geweldige video!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Dankjewel Nick!
@stevensmith3976
@stevensmith3976 6 месяцев назад
Great video, very informative, thanks I hope to build a hybrid acoustic But should I allow the bracing to touch the sides/make slots for the bracing in the sides of the hollowed out solid body, or should the braces end, leaving a clear parameter around the edges?
@MarkJVSomers
@MarkJVSomers 2 года назад
As a lefty, I also look at right handed guitars to switch over to left handers. How does the bracing affect that? tx
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Hey Mark, great question! Wether it makes a difference is debatable, some people think it does whilst some think it doesn't. But looking at the facts, bracings aren't symmetric and on paper this will affect the sound.
@MarkJVSomers
@MarkJVSomers 2 года назад
@@thefellowshipofacoustics Tx, that's what I always thought, it should make a difference. I had it done a couple of times, and still have an old Yamaha FG75 waiting for it, or not, I don't know, while having shied away from a couple of '70s (cheap) D18s, because I had doubts how it would work out.
@rickessegern1920
@rickessegern1920 Год назад
​@@MarkJVSomers the bracing will make little difference on a FG75 with it's laminate top. Saddle intonation and nut slots need to be reversed along with pickguard.
@R.L.Humpert
@R.L.Humpert 3 месяца назад
Yes, I bought the v bracing guitar and it’s not very good. so I went back to Martin and got me an HD28 adi top with standard X brace and it sounds amazing. However, in your opinion, which is better the scallop bracing regular forward shifted just for overall play be at rhythm style, etc. thank you
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 месяца назад
The forward shifted bracing allows for more bass projection so for rhythm playing it really adds a lot low end. But for other styles this could also be very valuable. It depends on the tone you're looking for. ;)
@DarkWhatever91
@DarkWhatever91 Год назад
i'm kind of surprised you didn't mention the most superior bracing: lattice bracing
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
We mainly tried to focus on western-guitar bracings :)
@fransgreg
@fransgreg 3 года назад
Great one! Could you please spell out the name of this luthier making parlour guitars with ladder bracing? You mention him at 2:36, but my french ear can't hear that name ;-)
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Waterloo! We just received a used model from 2017 with ladder bracing! --> www.tfoa.eu/nl/waterloo-wl14-l-sunburst-2017.html?sqr=waterloo&
@Rhezoloution
@Rhezoloution Год назад
What a great video. Thanks. Question. Does the X brace mean you can use steel strings even if the headstock is a typical slotted classical guitar but with X bracing inside?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Hey, yes it does! X-bracing isn't the only bracing type that will fit slotted headstocks or steel strings, but in this case you're correct ;)
@tdw57
@tdw57 Год назад
Martin's gradual tapering of the bracing towards the side edges is rather because the areas of the top, approaching the side edges, is gradually receiving support from being fastened to those sides. The sound (resonant top vibration) would be correspondingly deadened if the bracing weren't tapered there. This way, it keeps its linearity of vibration amplitude across the top, which is very important for balanced sound across the spectrum. That's why he's added extra bracing on the bass side, for another example. The 'stone dropped in the water,' implies that there is somehow a significant lessening of vibration moving away from the bridge, owing to wood damping it. While this is a relatively minor consideration, the bracing would be carved, if that were the primary factor, to emulate the inverse square law all the way from the bridge plate. It is not. Voila.
@michaelborn3318
@michaelborn3318 7 дней назад
Why do the braces always appear to be linear, rather than a mix of linear and curved shapes? There's not many other linear contours on a guitar.
@jparker1823
@jparker1823 3 года назад
I recently purchased a fusion/crossover nylon string guitar and I noticed that the fan bracing is shifted over to the bass string side. What the benefit of moving the braces left and right as you mentioned the benefits of moving x beacing up and down. Thanks.
@saml4157
@saml4157 8 месяцев назад
Hey thanks for the video! Q: Do you think that taylors V bracing is more of a gimmick to stand out from other acoustic guitars or does it actually have some advantages? I'm also curious if you prefer it to X bracing or not, thanks!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 8 месяцев назад
V-Class bracing is not just a gimmick! Taylor claims that V-Class can produce more volume and sustain with a good balance between the top's stiffness and flexibility. Which type of bracing is better is mostly a matter of personal preference. Our advice: try out both and discover what fits you best! 😊
@robertshorthill6836
@robertshorthill6836 2 года назад
I had a '64 made Gibson J-50. I don't know what type of bracing they used, but it had a booming, punchy sound and sustain that I really liked. I was forced to sell that guitar and somebody got a real prize. The $1850 I was paid for it has long been spent.
@maraviyoso8473
@maraviyoso8473 2 года назад
Probably "standard" bracing. The tone of a J50 comes from the shape, the top thickness and the scale.
@jamesfe5
@jamesfe5 Год назад
Belly bulge is a big problem with x types of bracing . Taylor guitars were not immune to this. My fantastic Taylor GS acoustic is now a victim of bulge. Do you think the new Tylor v bracing will help prevent the bulge problems. Those two long v rods look like they will stop this maybe ?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Hmmm I don't think so. Bulge almost always stems from humidity problems, and wood that thin just isn't capable of handling that! No matter the bracing type.
@atomic432
@atomic432 2 месяца назад
What about lattice bracing.
@captaindip6970
@captaindip6970 2 года назад
Taylor's V bracing sucks really bad.
@JACKWHEELERMUSIC
@JACKWHEELERMUSIC Год назад
The most over rated guitars! The cheapest Martin with fake wood beats any taylor guitars
@gettindrunker
@gettindrunker Год назад
That was a beautifully spoken video my friend! Thank you so much for sharing your passion! It makes it easier to understand when the person doing the talking is enjoying it. I’m learning a lot on the differences of bracing and sounds lately. I bought a vintage high Yairi and it just doesn’t have that boom I adore that comes out of my Alvarez MD60. The Alvarez is forward shifted X and that makes complete sense now after listening to you. Thanks! Subscribed!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
Thank you so much and we're always glad to help! Hope our new content keeps you satisfied :)
@tcjensen1
@tcjensen1 3 года назад
So do you like the Taylor V class stuff vs the martin d28 for example?
@captaindip6970
@captaindip6970 2 года назад
I personally don't like the taylor v class bracing.
@el34glo59
@el34glo59 2 года назад
Nah
@car5car5
@car5car5 Год назад
Sir! I need to replace or install additional Number 1 brace. Which wood and size should I use? String moved up because the brace is bent down. Thanks.
@ronaldrice4085
@ronaldrice4085 Год назад
What do you think of the River song guitars?
@zvonimirtosic6171
@zvonimirtosic6171 2 года назад
For classical Spanish guitars, lattice bracing was introduced several decades ago, and it does help the instrument refine its harmonics .. is it possible to implement it in some form on the steel string guitars?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Great question. To be honest, I'm not sure. Strength whilst remaining a light build are key for acoustics, sounds like it could be too weak for steel strings.
@ggoetz100
@ggoetz100 2 года назад
Yeah you can use lattice bracing on steel strings. I know Batson guitars use them on at least some models.
@mclovin583
@mclovin583 Год назад
You need a new couch......
@williamb4652
@williamb4652 3 месяца назад
It’s brand new. Relic’d .
@ldf4064
@ldf4064 5 месяцев назад
How does the bracing change in guitars with 12th fret neck to body joints?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 5 месяцев назад
Our luthiers could write a complete book about this haha! In a nutshell: with a 12 fret neck, the bridge will move further away from the sound hole. Often the bracing also moves the same amount so it comes more in the center of the lower bout (but doesn't have to!). It depends on the body shape, dimensions of the body, and type of sound you're aiming for.
@hobiecat901
@hobiecat901 2 года назад
Very interesting Adrian, I was wondering about the wood types for the braces. I see where spruce is used for bracing. Can mahogany or just any type of spruce be used for braces. Does the Spruce need to be Adirondack or Sitka spruce, for the Braces? is all spruce wood good for Bracing? Thanks, Russell
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Hey Russel, Maarten here over at TFOA. Using different tonewoods than Spruce is nothing out of the ordinary. Spruce is definitely the most common, but Mahogany and Cedar are used as well. Although there are certain tonewoods that don't make fantastic braces ;)
@hobiecat901
@hobiecat901 2 года назад
@@thefellowshipofacoustics Thanks Maarten.
@LifeSavingDefense
@LifeSavingDefense Год назад
What is the best glue for the braces? I have one that’s loose in a 1960-70 that I just picked up. The body is solid, neck is straight but if you tap you’ll find the vibration from one loose brace. Just need the right glue. Very interesting brace info. Will have to look up construction changes by year.
@rickessegern1920
@rickessegern1920 Год назад
Original titebond works great. Unless the guitar was originally built with hot hide glue, then use that, not bottled hide glue.
@TheAgiluzjm09
@TheAgiluzjm09 3 года назад
is there a difference in terms of durability? which one is the weakest/strongest?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 3 года назад
Most flat-topped guitars are the same in terms of durability. A ladder-braced guitar would be the 'weakest' but nothing to worry about, also a classical fan-braced guitar could be considered 'weak'. But guitars are made to last :)
@TheAgiluzjm09
@TheAgiluzjm09 3 года назад
@@thefellowshipofacoustics nice, thank you!
@abd-ix5qd
@abd-ix5qd 2 года назад
What about double X bracing? Does it affect response/volume as compared to single X bracing (Martin)?
@johnroseman9087
@johnroseman9087 2 года назад
Hello Adrian! I own a Martin HD-28. (2002) Can you tell me if it's scalloped bracing or straight? I heard the scalloped bracing stopped in 1944. But it was mentioned that "HD" 28 & 40 models were still scalloped. Also, it is an Electric, factory installed. So I guess its an HD-28-E Thank you!
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
99% sure it's scalloped! :)
@johnroseman9087
@johnroseman9087 2 года назад
@@thefellowshipofacoustics Thank you!
@twelthstring
@twelthstring 27 дней назад
What purpose has the piece of tape in the middle of the X?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 25 дней назад
That's just something for this demo piece!
@billb1316
@billb1316 9 месяцев назад
The guy nextdoor had a tighter baught in the waist now he has Egg Gas
@JohnSmiley-x5u
@JohnSmiley-x5u 4 дня назад
whats the mm of the top
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 дня назад
Hey! It varies a lot per guitar and guitar maker. Also it depends on what spruce you want to use :)
@davidtait1450
@davidtait1450 2 года назад
I love a heavy relic custom shop as much as the next man, but the relicing on that rory gallagher sofa is just too much.
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Hahaha, we're not ready to give up on this couch yet :p
@joelmccoy9969
@joelmccoy9969 Месяц назад
Obsessing about bracing then weakening the Soundboard structurally by drilling a row of Six-6mm holes across the middle of the Soundboard and Bridge, (close together), to accommodate Bone, (or plastic), Pins on Western guitars why not use `Trapeze-Tailpieces´ like Django Rheinhart had on his guitar. Long-term, Pins cause bowing of the Soundboard or loosening of the Bridge, they seem like an inferior compromise of material structurally weakening and acoustically dampening the Soundboard with subsequent costs and early replacement being the result. One can stamp a brass trapeze tailpiece. One should aspire to build guitars to outlast one's self! Hardwoods are too finite a substance to waste. Nice Visual Aid, doesn't show the Holes though! Why is that?
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Месяц назад
These soundboards are simply meant to show what's underneath the top, so which braces and in what pattern. And the bridge plate is also there! 😉
@joelmccoy9969
@joelmccoy9969 Месяц назад
@@thefellowshipofacoustics Lacing Pin Holes in the middle of the soundboard are a design flaw used to; denigrate the guitar sound over time, sell new guitars, and make work for Luthiers.
@mrjamrol
@mrjamrol Год назад
Looks like all the nauga came off your naugahyde
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics Год назад
It's just Hyde now 🤣
@pcmountaindog
@pcmountaindog 2 года назад
What I wonder is, how many guitars did CF have to make until he thought had the sound he wanted and understood the mechanics. Must have been a huge amount of trial and error and lots of failed guitars.
@thefellowshipofacoustics
@thefellowshipofacoustics 2 года назад
Interesting question! Maybe it was a 'happy accident'... :p
@USA4thewin
@USA4thewin Год назад
i need to drop the electric for one of those
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