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Guitar Neck Scarf Joint, How To Measure, Cut And Glue. 

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I make a scarf cut and join for a guitar neck. The video is in 3 parts. In part 1, I show how to measure and determine the starting position of a scarf joint for a guitar neck build. 2) Then I make a scarf joint jig for the table saw and make the actual cut and 3) Then I setup and glue the scarf joint.
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@Raymond-rr5iv
@Raymond-rr5iv 5 месяцев назад
You embody the phrase "Cleanliness is next to godliness." You precision with measurements, cuts, dust free, and double check in order to achieve perfection are exemplary. Well done and thank you. You are like a diamond cutter on would. I can think of no better way to do it. I'm inspired.
@tamdiyguitare4358
@tamdiyguitare4358 7 лет назад
So impressed! I watched many videos regarding the making of a scarf joint. Nothing is as clear nor simple than your demo. Thank you!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thank you, I appreciate your comment!
@donotcall1215
@donotcall1215 Год назад
by far the most helpful video i have come across for cutting a scarf joint, thank you for the clear instructions!
@BoudreauGuitars
@BoudreauGuitars 8 лет назад
wax paper, the luthier's secret weapon.... great video!!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
+Boudreau Guitars Wax paper and MDF are probably some of my favourite and most used accessories in the shop. Thanks for the comments Ken, I really enjoy your videos.
@nicolashrv
@nicolashrv 6 лет назад
you can use that or even cheaper good old scotch tape, which offers even less attachment to glue.
@electricwally
@electricwally 4 года назад
Thank you very much for this extremely detailed and well organized video. I believe I now have the scarf joint "how-to" pretty much wrapped up! Thanks again!
@WindOnMyWings
@WindOnMyWings 6 лет назад
This is a precious video. Thanks.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 6 лет назад
Thanks
@robertshorthill4153
@robertshorthill4153 3 года назад
I've built 3 mandolins with scarf joint head stocks. They can have a central rib configuration that is different from the neck center rib and can be stunningly beautiful. Not only that, but it is a superior way to make the wood grain way less prone to breaking if the head ever gets a traumatic fall or something like a damaging injury. Give it a try -- it's worth the effort. Les Paul models are very easily broken because it takes too much effort to make a scarf jointed head stock attachment. The grain direction is wrong. A good glue, like Titebond, is stronger than the wood, but do not use hide glue. Hide can melt if an instrument is left in a locked car in the summer with windows rolled up. Really good luthiers will use scarf joints, most, if not all the time.
@fshre2506
@fshre2506 2 года назад
Clear, informative, and relaxing :) Thank you.
@dbuzzify
@dbuzzify 7 лет назад
I make cigar box guitars and I used this method to make a jig yesterday and cut several necks and headstocks very successfully. We have a big saw at work so I could do the 3" headstocks in one cut. This is a game changer thank you.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Glad to hear it Buz! Thanks!
@clintboal8046
@clintboal8046 3 года назад
Thank you for this tutorial; this has been very helpful for my first build.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 3 года назад
Glad that you found it useful
@andrewdarnley4608
@andrewdarnley4608 7 лет назад
Really straightforward explanation. Very nicely executed joint.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks Andrew!
@greekjgg
@greekjgg 8 лет назад
Very good tutorial...I just got your newsletter today...was actually researching how to determine where to make the cut.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
Thank you, I'm glad this was helpful for you.
@fubarcomm
@fubarcomm 5 лет назад
im glad i came across this video! been planning a guitar neck build and this was perfect to learn from!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 5 лет назад
Glad it's useful!
@gri7
@gri7 4 года назад
nice! i just watched this after messing up my 15` angle cut on a compound mitre saw. lol shit
@Deafgirlsgonewild
@Deafgirlsgonewild 5 лет назад
Extremely informative! I have been afraid to do scarfs (mainly sticking to strat type headstocks) but I think I'm going to give this a go
@14rnr
@14rnr 7 лет назад
Thank you for that, a clear and concise explanation.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks and you are welcome.
@NKBobcat
@NKBobcat 7 лет назад
Thank you! I will be using this method as I tried chop saws, band saws and handsaws. This is the most accurate and once I set up my jig, it will be the easiest.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Hey Bob, this jig does a very good job at cutting a scarf joint. Good luck!
@Ibaneddie76
@Ibaneddie76 8 лет назад
You should check out David Fletcher's scarf joint sanding jig, it will save you a ton of time truing up your scarf joints.
@bretsimpson8046
@bretsimpson8046 Год назад
i glued my neck blank together on the floor, lol. this whole clamp and table setup looks clean
@robinmarwick1982
@robinmarwick1982 Год назад
A really helpful video with lots of very useful tips...thanks
@Jefferson-ly5qe
@Jefferson-ly5qe 7 лет назад
That pencil trick is really clever. Definitely trying that later. Thanks!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Glad you found it useful!
@jeffdewe
@jeffdewe 4 года назад
That's an old trick autobody Painters do also, first they prime , then they get a different color primer and sporadically spray it and sand it off.
@nils8584
@nils8584 3 года назад
This was very helpful!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 3 года назад
Awesome!
@robreyescosme6902
@robreyescosme6902 3 года назад
I made the same basic scarf jig for my band saw.. I've made a couple scarf joints on the band saw that I am happy with..
@TH-li6tb
@TH-li6tb 4 года назад
Excellent video. Thank you.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
Glad you like it
@ranisolo
@ranisolo 8 лет назад
thanx....great video. i'll do a scarf joint today.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
+ranisolo You're most welcome, good luck with the scarf joint.
@pwhite102
@pwhite102 4 года назад
Two piece necks look cool. I first saw them on Abasi guitars and they were really wild, but I like yours too. Reminiscent of how a plain maple top can be really nice
@marvini2320
@marvini2320 4 года назад
thanks for a great idea, i plan to use a router to plane the angle cut with a jig
@dalgguitars
@dalgguitars 7 лет назад
really nice router jig. great work.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks. It's a very useful jig! I have a video for it if you're interested in building one (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eaqSR9ARLhY.html)
@isaacmorband5042
@isaacmorband5042 4 года назад
Thank you Sir Great lesson
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
Glad you liked it
@orlandoluthier6167
@orlandoluthier6167 2 года назад
Love this video!
@haroldyeager6124
@haroldyeager6124 4 года назад
I’ve done scarf joints both ways. I prefer to glue on top because fret board will cover where the lumber meets and make it a stronger joint when fretboard is then glued on. But I have never encountered a problem either way
@aaronrobey9354
@aaronrobey9354 7 лет назад
very very helpful, thank you!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thank you and you're welcome! :)
@wingmann3632
@wingmann3632 3 года назад
thank you! this video helped me a lot!
@MangaJosh
@MangaJosh 2 года назад
I was reading the comments of some of these guys about where their scarf joint ends up being on their guitar and was looking at the scarf joint i the guitars that I bought in the late 90’s from a certain company and looking at it from the low e string side (bass side) of the neck the joint part that touches the back of the fretboard is at the second fret. And the back side of the scarf joint that the thumb touches is almost at the nut. The only reason I can think of why it ended up that far forward is because of the thickness of the wood, like it was thicker when glued together and then trimmed down after it was glued maybe? The glue joint actually broke and I glued it back together but trying to get parts to fix it back up and get her back to being played.
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 4 года назад
thank you
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
You're welcome
@hobiecat901
@hobiecat901 2 года назад
Very Nice work.
@recordman555
@recordman555 8 лет назад
Anyone feel free to correct me, but I believe I see a mistake in terminology that is common with these joints. What is shown as Method A, is actually a Reverse Scarf Joint. To the best of my knowledge, all classical guitars have headstocks made with this technique. The Method A - Method B schematics reveal which gives a greater bonding surface - the Reverse Scarf.
@Starliner428
@Starliner428 7 лет назад
Nice work. Tnx for posting.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks. Thanks for commenting :)
@andrewmundenandcadfellmast4624
@andrewmundenandcadfellmast4624 3 года назад
Nice work!
@mikaylaboo1
@mikaylaboo1 7 лет назад
This is very interesting. I have learned a lot from your video. Thank you.Thumbs up! Subscribed to your channel.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks. I'm glad you're enjoying my videos!
@mattyburrows9059
@mattyburrows9059 3 года назад
i plan on doing mine with 5 piece laminate..two outside pieces are one piece .the middle piece is method b and the pieces between are method a
@mshaynerushton
@mshaynerushton 11 дней назад
Instead of sanding that second phase, have you considered clamping the two pieces on the jig and going back through the table saw again?
@alexqu7259
@alexqu7259 3 года назад
Большое спасибо!
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 8 лет назад
thank you most help full.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
You're welcome!
@tolerbearALTII
@tolerbearALTII 5 лет назад
I have an early model Jackson Rhoads guitar and the headstock is broken. I , being new to repairing guitars, used epoxy and Gorilla glue to try to repair the break. How would I successfully repair it? I was thinking about removing the fretboard and separating the scarf joint and rebuilding that part of the guitar? Either that or use a band saw to remove the broken portion of the neck and use a sander and Sharpie to remove it. Trying to maintain the same angles and original neck dimensions.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 5 лет назад
Hi Allen, it's not an easy question to answer without seeing the specific headstock break point. I suggest you join my Facebook group (called Project Electric Guitar) and post some photos and describe the issue and the friendly people of the community will help you find the best way to solve it. Here's the link if you're interested facebook.com/groups/ProjectElectricGuitar/
@relentlessmadman
@relentlessmadman 3 года назад
method A seems like it would produce a stronger glue joint, just because there is more gluing surface area??..
@scottmartinezguitarandbass
@scottmartinezguitarandbass Год назад
Just had a quick question. Why not do the cut on your sled in 1 cut instead of three? Also why 3 sanding methods? You would think especially the oscillating sander would accomplish a perfectly flat result. These aren't criticisms! I am genuinely trying to learn. Your results certainly look perfect!!
@larzhillbot1443
@larzhillbot1443 5 лет назад
11:16 nice router thinning jig
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
Thanks. I have a separate video on how to make it ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eaqSR9ARLhY.html
@vincenzogiacalone
@vincenzogiacalone 8 лет назад
Thank's
@thenewbieguitarmaker
@thenewbieguitarmaker 7 лет назад
This video helps me to understand the degree of the headstock. I'm just getting into building my first Guitar and I have video of my design and Blueprint desaing. Question Can I make it 20 or 25 degrees?
@trevoranderson5991
@trevoranderson5991 3 месяца назад
Any reason to use the router to reduce the thickness instead of a thickness planer? Snipe?
@darrellblanchard2362
@darrellblanchard2362 Год назад
I think you could just cut the base at the same angle as the fence and clamp the neck blank to the fence.
@rebelangel8227
@rebelangel8227 Год назад
would a mitter saw be a better power tool for the job
@mikaylaboo1
@mikaylaboo1 7 лет назад
Man, I wish I had your tools?
@NunYa953
@NunYa953 3 года назад
😂😂 it's one of those situations where you can decide between buying a $2,000 guitar. Or spending $2000 on tools to build one. 😂😂
@Pjbelsch
@Pjbelsch 8 лет назад
no video on carving the guitar neck?
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
Maybe in a future video...
@undergroundstudio9810
@undergroundstudio9810 5 лет назад
Well, i tried this, and i don't know what I'm doing wrong. I made the 13 deg angle jig. Measured 6.75 in from tip of headstock to nut. Added 1.75in as per method A. When i flip the headstock, it's 3in too short and the neck is lengthened by that 3in. The angle matches perfectly with another neck i have. So, the jig must be right
@may_tech.
@may_tech. 6 месяцев назад
Please whats the name of glue you used, and are there other options of glue?
@russellesimonetta3835
@russellesimonetta3835 5 лет назад
Method b would be great with a valute.
@zeetekton1016
@zeetekton1016 2 года назад
may i ask why you used that angled jig instead of just cross cutting it with the blade tilted at the desired angle?
@manwithapan9481
@manwithapan9481 5 лет назад
Question, why not use a mitre saw instead of that crazy jig ?
@italianguitargarage708
@italianguitargarage708 5 лет назад
@Project Electric Guitar I followed you instruction to make the scarf-joint, method A. I can't say it didn't worked because it did, but I noticed that sometimes the glue joint line stay under the nut area and is quite annoying and not so nice aesthetically. I take the measurement of the headstock and add the extra space, usually even more than needed, but the scarf line keep being in an odd position. Any guess?
@vincenzogiacalone
@vincenzogiacalone 8 лет назад
Hi, this calculate method is only for 13° angle headstock?
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
Yes, these calculations are for a 13° angle headstock... but they should also be okay for other angles. If doing Method A, make sure to add more than 1.75", for example 2.5" or more, to be on the safe side. For Method B, don't subtract more than 1.5", for example 0.75" or even less.
@vincenzogiacalone
@vincenzogiacalone 8 лет назад
+Project Electric Guitar Thank's
@sta39cee
@sta39cee 2 года назад
Is your formula for doing scarfs based on the 13 degree headstock? If so, what would the formula be for a 10 degree headstock?
@PAUL.72
@PAUL.72 6 лет назад
master.!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 6 лет назад
Thanks Paul!
@Noahlochner0
@Noahlochner0 5 лет назад
How come you made 3 passes to cut the scarf joint instead of just one pass? Just curious
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
Because my blade was dull
@anthonylange1481
@anthonylange1481 7 лет назад
Hi, Watched most of your videos.Really great. One question, though. Could you use a band saw for this operation... Thanks Tony
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks Tony! Yes you can use a band saw for cutting the scarf joint. However you should expect the spend some time cleaning the saw blade marks... Always try it on a test piece first.
@anthonylange1481
@anthonylange1481 7 лет назад
Thanks for that..... much appreciated.
@Justthoughtidsaythis
@Justthoughtidsaythis 6 лет назад
You can. You might not get as perfect a vertical angle so it may take longer sanding it square, but it works. You can also use a good Japanese saw and cut it by hand in the same time as setting up a saw.
@massimozirilli3282
@massimozirilli3282 3 года назад
Great vids! Thank you! May I ask you why most liuthers prefers scarf joint over one piece headstock/neck construction? I mean for angled headstock which method is the best? Does one piece gives more resonance? Thank you!
@raccoon6072
@raccoon6072 3 года назад
A scarf makes a stronger head-neck construction. In case of one-piece the short grain of the headstock is more vulnerable.
@ronmiller7916
@ronmiller7916 4 года назад
Wrap your cauls with shipping tape, no need for the wax paper
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 4 года назад
Good idea! Thank you.
@olegtolmachev5890
@olegtolmachev5890 4 года назад
What type of circular saw blade use for it?
@rickhogg5856
@rickhogg5856 7 лет назад
if you put the base on the side of the fence you can have a stiffer base and have more elevation...just saying
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thanks for the idea Rick!
@rickhogg5856
@rickhogg5856 7 лет назад
I would post a picture of the one I built a while back it has a 15 degree angle...but do not know how in a post here...mite be helpful for others as well....
@cesarchang3960
@cesarchang3960 7 лет назад
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and for explaining so well all the procedure. I learnt a lot. May I as what computer software do you use to do all your drawings ? Kind regards.
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 7 лет назад
Thank you. I use Inkscape for drawing, it's a free, vector-based drawing software.
@cesarchang3960
@cesarchang3960 7 лет назад
Thank a million once again. Excellent video.
@marksnyder2864
@marksnyder2864 4 года назад
On your schematic, isn't the length "D" for method B, labelled 9.5", in error? That's the same as method A
@raccoon6072
@raccoon6072 3 года назад
As i understand it: D and the angle are the same four A and B. But wit B you end up with a shorter heads tock than B. With method B a few inches disappear under the fretboard.
@abdulkadirtosun2154
@abdulkadirtosun2154 6 лет назад
How can i rout the scraf with hand router
@f1948s
@f1948s 6 лет назад
What type of bit did you use on your router to reduce the thickness of the head ?
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 6 лет назад
It's a simple straight router bit with a flat bottom, it's probably the most standard router bit amzn.to/2OfWBKB
@robertshorthill4153
@robertshorthill4153 3 года назад
Franko S I use a plunge router that I can micro adjust to take off minute amounts of material. The bit is a 3/4" straight bit, a Porter Cable bit, if not mistaken, but mine is dedicated for this one purpose and is not used for anything else. I can also thickness the head stock piece to the precise thickness instead of running it thru a planer and risk chipping out curly maple chunks. Plus, using double sided tape, I can router plane smaller pieces of wood without a snipe disaster, or something on that order. Once you have a lovely stock piece, you don't want to screw it up by some method that could ruin it. Cheers, friend, and good luck. Bob. ( an amateur luthier in Montana )
@LoOnyCal
@LoOnyCal 8 лет назад
how thick is the walnut? an inch? 2 inch?
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
It's 3/4"
@Ibaneddie76
@Ibaneddie76 8 лет назад
please don't take this the wrong way I appreciate anyone who takes the time to teach others how to do things like guitar building. I just see a few safety issues with the jig you built, the sled should have a rail that rides in the miter slot to keep the work piece from twisting and causing a potential kickback for one. If it was just you showing people how you do it it wouldn't be a big deal but since you may be teaching someone who may not have the same amount of experience with a table saw as you I think safety should be paramount when making these videos. I use a miter saw to cut my scarf joints or I'll just free hand them on the band saw and use a jig I built to sand them perfectly flush. Again not trolling your video I've actually learned some cool stuff from you and all of the other YOU TUBE luthiers. Thank you for the cool videos.
@nicolashrv
@nicolashrv 6 лет назад
It is a bit of annoying to see "safety" platoon all over.....yes, he forgot to put a guide, he didn't turn on the dust collect, he is not wearing a mask, and he is not using a kill switch, nor solar pannels to save the environment. It will be stupid to add in every video "don't try this at home", and waste 2hs explaining what could go wrong. He is not saying how it's done. Is just how HE is doing it. It's his life, his safety, and is not his business if you don't know how to use a table saw and then cut your hand and then accuse this guy because he did it also on youtube and nothing happened to him.
@Justthoughtidsaythis
@Justthoughtidsaythis 6 лет назад
He made a good point. Kickback is a serious potential problem, and newbies do come to You Tube looking for How To videos.
@tuco8734
@tuco8734 5 лет назад
U working for OSHA or what ?
@luketama1
@luketama1 7 лет назад
Is there a way to glue it so you can make a neck valu? or do you need a thicker piece of wood?
@robertshorthill4153
@robertshorthill4153 3 года назад
luketama1. I thickness my head stock piece to about .520" or about .525". You know? Where the tuner posts can come thru a sufficient amount. Make a "dummy" mock up first with holes to determine if the thickness is satisfactory. Subtract the thickness of any veneer you choose, cuz that will be added later. For example, .425", with a veneer thickness of .100". Cheers, my friend. Bob
@elbenaso
@elbenaso 8 лет назад
What type of blade is that? Thanks!
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
+elbenaso It's a finishing-blade with 60 teeth.
@elbenaso
@elbenaso 8 лет назад
+Project Electric Guitar I'm about to build my first guitar and your video has helped me a lot. I'm going to buy an einhell 2025 saw but it comes with a blade with less teeth than yours, is the thickness of the blade also important to do the job? thanks
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
+elbenaso The blade is not so important. Building a solid jig, properly clamping the neck stock into the jig and pushing it through with good technique is far more important. I strongly recommend doing a few practice cuts with cheap wood before cutting the more expensive neck wood. Either way, expect to spend some time cleaning the scarf joint after the cut. If you have more questions and want to join a community of guitars builders, then come join the Project Electric Guitar Facebook group. Myself and many others can help you out with more answers. facebook.com/groups/ProjectElectricGuitar/
@elbenaso
@elbenaso 8 лет назад
+Project Electric Guitar thanks a lot for the info!
@elbenaso
@elbenaso 8 лет назад
+Project Electric Guitar I've sent the request to join the facebook group
@walterrider9600
@walterrider9600 8 лет назад
will this work for a steel string acoustic ?
@Projectelectricguitar
@Projectelectricguitar 8 лет назад
Yes, I don't see why it wouldn't
@JV8901
@JV8901 2 года назад
I dont know why, but scarf joints scare me.
@ayandatta3046
@ayandatta3046 4 года назад
Do you have Facebook id??
@NeilDjents
@NeilDjents 6 лет назад
I don't see the point of scarf joint. Why wouldn't you use like a 5 piece neck with an carved tilt back headstock? It is like a million times stronger then scarf joint. Just my idea, idk.
@nainglynn1806
@nainglynn1806 4 года назад
Better cut with bandsaw.
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