Two very popular mini amps that can be used for home, practice, studio or stage, go head to head. Clean mode, Crunch mode and Lead mode compared. Recorded with a Shure SM57 mic.
these are the two amps I tried in store before buying the 6505mh. Orange defeats the peavey in clean and crunch while I much prefer the peavey tone for metal
He barely touches the gain, not to mention the bass in the background filters out the true sound of the amp so I'm left confused as to what they sound like, you can clearly tell this guy can't play metal (which is what the 6505 is designed for) and he has the gain on 20 percent... how is this a good test? It doesnt cover a full spectrum of sound whatsoever.
Proper tests are quick clips (5 seconds max) back and forth. In a mix and isolated. Back and forth at different settings to get a feel for the differences. Though you cant complain too much when somebody does this for free, just that quick clips is a more effective methodology since the ears forget so quickly.
@@Heath-vz7lc As someone that owns a 6505+ I can say there is a good reason the gain is set so low. All the amps in the 6505 line have more gain than you can ever imagine and the lead channel is very easy to saturate to a point where it kills your tone. I honestly can't ever set my gain past 6 unless I want to add this extra mud and loose dynamics, so really this guy knew what kind of tone he was setting up. I will point out that his metal guitar riffing was not very great, I've seen a lot worse, but I give him credit for an alright "metal tone". I will also point out they also made a point to really balance the amplifiers so that their distinct "flavor" is really what tells them apart. You can EQ any amps to sound different but you can't change the entire tone in the circuits of your amp and they did a good job showing that. Even more so this was a video where they weren't doing a full demo of the 6505 and its dynamic tone abilities but to find the best and balanced tones between each amp and get a very good comparison of them in their common state, used with a full band. If you don't like it go looking for in-depth demos of the 6505 on RU-vid because they are very easy to find.
I have them both and they are great amps! I love the versatility and the feature set of the 6505MH. I've even A/B'd it side by side with my full size 6505+ and it gets pretty comparable tones, at least with the 6505+ at low volume. The biggest difference seems to be that the EL84s just can't provide that chest pounding impact the 6L6GCs are known for. But for studio use it doesn't matter and this little amp does a great job. The OR15 just sounds fuller and richer overall than the 6505MH. I have actually used it a few times live and was amazed at how well it performed! It held it's own on stage without hesitation, even powering a full stack of Marshall 4x12s! I've A/B'd it side by side with one of my customer's Rockerverb 50 MkII head and I honestly think the OR15 sounded very close...I think the OR15 was as good or better but really if blindfolded one would be hard pressed to tell the difference.
I mainly watch these because I really like the way you play. You have your own kind of feeling in your playing and it is great! Keep up the good work :)
I was also blown away by how much I actually enjoyed using the OR15 for more brutal styles of music. It slams, yet you can hear every note that's being played in a chord with perfect definition. Peaveys are always heavy as hell, but usually not the most articulate.
First, thanks very much for this excellent comparison! I have been considering these two amps as well as the EVH Lunchbox. I have to say this demo has made it clear that the Orange is the amp for me. It has a simple control set and still brings that old school thump & crunch. The 6505 sounds very good but leans more into modern metal territory.
Thanks for the video , it's thoughtful to change cabs for every style of sound . I'm interested to know how do you find or15 playing crunch/lead and metal through the heritage speakers , i'm looking for or15 shoutout with different speakers actually
great video !! I only can tell a difference on some stuff where the peavey seems to have more presence, but otherwise ... prettymuch can cover the same range period !! :)
I myself played the Orange head one afternoon at a Sam Ash store I do remember the gain being ok but thought to myself this amp needs an overdrive to boost the gain it did not have the grind for metal and compared to the Peavey its more a one trick pony, Peavey makes great gear the 6505 is less money and has more to offer, I would go with the Peavey.
Great video, the Peavey did well against the Orange in some ways I think its better then the full size (except for tight modern metal) has a better mid range crunch and clean. Definately preffered the first cab thought really hated the Peavey 4x12.
Thx 4 nice video, really cool comparison. I wonder if someone compare new fender bassbreaker 15 and orange or-15. Both have wonderfull clean tones and low end, but what about clarity at high gain.
Does the OR15 have a footswitch? I'm new to amps and I want one, but I need a clean and a distorted channel because of the songs I play. I've read that the 6505MH has it, but I kinda liked the Orange's vintage tone way more.
The Orange 🍊 clean and crunch really stood out. The Peavey is a metal machine but if you put an MT-2 in the loop of the Orange so it works as a pre amp for the power valves it is awesome 😎 The Orange is a very simple amp so dialling into a sweet spot is very quick. The peavy has a lot of controls the the majority of the time you’ll never use and it will take more time to find a sound you like.
A tad unfair comparison I think! You hardly touched the gain on the Peavey and, to be fair, the 6505 is all about gain! For metal, you cannot get a better amp than the 6505 IMO...
Absolutely right! The 6505 is a hi-gain metal amp but even clean, stands up well. For me, the 6505MH batters the fizzy Orange's any day of the week (even clean)...
I like the OR15, but maybe it's because I've got one. lol I have never gotten along with peavey products, I just don't like the way the preamp gain sounds on them. Then again, with the Orange, it had best be a quiet room if you want to use any sort of clean tone with it.
They sound great. The Orange keeps its distinct midrange sound that makes it famous for its thick wall of sound. The 6505MH maintains that slightly scoop, much more modern metal sound. I have Dark Terror, but I'm thinking of adding the 6505MH for its versatility, and using an A/B box to punch in the Orange for leads, seeing as that would cut right through the live mixes well at my gigs.
they both sound pretty kick ass. so the question is what are you mainly gonna use it for. I like british crunch and roar over the peavy's more distorted sizzly sounds but i'd be happy with either
Orange all the way. The sound is much fuller to my ears, though I would've loved to hear the high gain comparison out of the cab with the V30 or the G12 Heritage. I thought both amps sounded awful through the Peavey.
@@jAMMAN798 I have the same cab with Sheffield's with my 5150, and it sounds good, but also have a Marshall vintage 1960 30's and its a little more mid like.
Peavey settings are wrong. Tone can sound much better than this when the resonance and mid is set slightly higher than it was. Clean- tie Crunch- orange Lead- peavey
Bought the orange OR15 a year ago. I play extrem high gain sounds in a grind core/ death metal whatever band (morser.bandcamp.com) ... I played before a Marshall el34 100/100 poweramp with a digitech dg2112 studio preamp. Now everything is soooo much easier... Much less weight, much less time to built up, much less space used in the van, much less time to find your sound in a new venue AND the most important thing: it sounds much better! Ok, it's not that fat like a big amp like a Mesa, evh 5150, Diesel, an so on... But therefor I think the sound is much more present and so exactly in the higher notes without fizzling sounds like the evh has for example. If I play just for myself I miss sometimes a little bit the punch in the bass sounds but live with my band that's the job for the bass. Which is distorted, too. So every instrument is much better to hear by its own unique sound. I really love this little Orange and my back is much better since then not carrying tons of amp stuff. ;)
The Fixx, Ram Jam, and Mission Impossible, nice song selection! :) I thought the Peavey's clean sounded better. But the lead and crunch was a tie, they both sounded great.
Just got the Peavey and it's cool , but 2 months ago i got the Blackstar HT head Mark II and it keeps surprising me . It's really good and i think Blackstar nailed it with this one.
These are both respectable at volume, but usually amps will lose fidelity at lower volumes. That said, would love to hear how they do in the smaller watt settings and see how pedals and features react at home volumes. Great vid- am considering both amps for home use only and consider the Classic 20 Peavey as well. Thoughts?
for the money, I think id get both, and double track. and use the cleans on the orange and solos for with the peavey. but sounds good overall. thanks for the vid
Good demo, nicely recorded too however you didn't use enough gain on either amp! The Orange should have been set to 2 o'clock or more and the Peavey to at least half way up the pre-gain (lead). Good job bringing out your 7 string for the Mission Impossible cover though! That being said, the OR15 sounded smoother in the cleans and more open in it's distortion. The Peavey had good cleans too but sounded a slight bit harsh - maybe because you used the bright setting. Unfortunately you didn't use enough gain on the 6505 but I know from experience that it has killer distortion. I like both a lot so it's hard to choose but I think for more modern metal (dropped tunings in particular) I will go with the 6505. You should try the Jim Root #4 Terror. Great for modern and classic tone with loads of gain on tap too. I love that amp :) That would be a nice comparison with the 6505 too.
Awesome vid! Every time I hear that last song I think of Ace Venture when he's sneaking into the dolphin tank. clean- orange had rounder, fuller sound. much for musical and pleasant. crunch- peavey had more clarity and complexity… the OR was a bit over saturated and perhaps too much mids…? lead- i liked the peavey here too. again, more clarity and bite. the OR (paired with the active hums) just seemed a bit too... processed.
Peavy sounds pretty beautiful in my opinion in terms of a clarity to distortion ratio and general versatility, but the Orange has a vintage tone that is quite hard to go up against no matter how versatile the amp is.
Awesome! I think I prefer the OR15. I love what you're doing with the drum machine. Great stuff, I look forward to the next one. By the way, that is the coolest version of the Mission Impossible theme I've ever heard 😝!
I was wondering what you were talking about but now I see it. You are looking at the amps when no guitar chords are plugged into them. I was showing the settings used on the amp.
I liked the Orange 15 for the clean and the Peavey for the crunch and lead....though the peaveys clean were not bad .....thank you for doing these super well done videos !!
great demo... telling anything through computer speakers is basically impossible but, what i did get out of this is that the peavy has a more "loose" bright"tinny" type of feel, where the orange seems "tighter and darker". I liked the orange personally however i'm guessing a simple eq adjustment on either and it's a whole new ballgame.
Honestly it sounded like you were more familiar and comfortable with the Orange. With the 6505 a lot of mistakes made it through the amp, kinda giving it an unfair shake. To truly do a compare you need to pipe a recorded set through them in an A/B config. I do appreciate you showing me your video, and agree that a 1x12 cab is all I need to build. Thanks!
I now own the 6505 MH and it can out perform the orange. Those two knobs on the far right are very critical, and not used effectively in this demo/comparison.
Love them both. For the price and the fact that the 6505MH has the switchable channels, reverb, and speaker emulated direct out in the back, I'd go with the Peavey. But, I'd love to have both, of course. I play an Orange live right now, but I record with Peavey emulations mostly. I think it's ALL heaven. Cheers!
Clean sounded pretty even to me. Crunch was a toss up also, although leaning towards the Orange. Lead was hands down the 6505. The Orange sounded to midrange to me and the 6505 was brighter and more defined.
Very close on the Cleans, perhaps the Orange is a little more sparkly? Crunch slightly goes to the Orange and The 3rd setting is hard to call. The Orange was smoother whereas the Peavey is more Bitey and Aggressive. Both are obviously incredibly versatile though!
Orange has more low mids, which make for a much more well-rounded clean tone. The 6505's are notoriously brittle, but they can be made to sound ok, especially with some pedals.
massive graves Fireball 60 is one of my favorite amps. I’ve played it all. Just did a video with my 7 string through my Engl Fireball 60. I’m definitely looking at getting the OR15 for my studio. Cheers
tried myself both of these amps and the difference was way more deep (in high gain settings), the demo doesn't truely shows it. try them out before buy !
For Cleans: OR15 wins to me because it was warmer and smoother. The Peavey sounded good but it had this "glassy", fragile sound to it. It sounded too thin and too bright to me, but some people might like that kind of clean sound (but no one really buys a 6505 for just its cleans right?). For crunch, I like the OR15 more because it's more, "hairy", throaty, and beefier. Sounded a lot meaner and uglier (in a good way). Again, the peavey sounded just too thin for me. Maybe more bass in the EQ would've gotten it on par with the OR but based on this video, the OR15 is much more beefy and sounds cooler. In the high gain it's difficult to choose. The Orange is a lot thicker, but the articulation may not be as clear and cut as some people may want it to be. I would probably back down the bass more on the OR15 on the high gain. The Peavey had this awesome midrange "bark" to it which is a tonal characteristic that the 5150 and 6505 are known for. The separation between the notes are excellent and the gain character just sounds awesome. Only downside, but may not be to others, is that it's not as thick or beefy as the OR15. To me personally, I'd pick the Orange amp because I just love that ugly, mean tone that Orange has, even in the high gain. But if I were doing modern metal that involved lots of distortion and fast picking, I'd pick the Peavey for it's mean midrange high gain "bark" and excellent separation of the notes. I could be biased though because I own a Dark Terror (and love it) and I have never touched or seen a Peavey 6505 in real life, both the MH and the full sized heads. Oh and btw, love the demo man! Your videos are always great.
+RaYtAy151 Thank you, I appreciate the comments. From my point of view the OR15 has a touch more punch to it than the Peavey. It's also louder than the Peavey in a way that it doesn't compress as it gets louder, so in a live or band situation it would continue to punch through. The Peavey has so many variables to the tone that every little turn of the knobs gives a new tone. It takes a bit of time to dial in what you're looking for where as the Orange is just straight in your face tone that reacts so well to your guitar volume and tone dial. As for metal, I wouldn't bother with the Orange as it doesn't have that classic Peavey note separation at high gain. I should also note that the gain on the Peavey is insane. If you push it past 15% on the lead channel you get instant feedback if the volume is raised... pretty much your classic metal tone.
I think what this showed is that the Orange had a more rounded tone with all the settings at noon... which is about what I'd expect since the mids in a 6505 aren't really full or 'lush' while Orange tends to have a more musical midrange. However, Peavey's can get there too if they are tweaked and I've always found the 'Orange tone' hard to escape, in that you cant tweak away from it. I'm also pretty sure if you mixed these together people would generally hear the peavey cutting through as that is a big factor for those amps. Interesting video but not the comparison I was after :/
Thanks for video! Another great one. For clean - Orange, for crunch - Peavey. But most of all I prefer Reverend guitar from this video, it looks and sounds amazing, want to own the same :) And to be honest, using tube amp at home seems impossible IMHO - too loud. At home - yamaha thr10, at studio Marshall JCM2000 with 4x12 - thats my choise :)
