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Gun Gripes Episode 76: Milsurps Suck 

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I love it when the "tactical" crowd hates on Milsurps. They say stuff like "they are just good for collecting dust" or "they are garbage because they have wooden stocks"
The truth is Military surplus rifles (Enfields, Mausers, Mosins, Arisakas, etc) are among the most well made firearms in history and often the most copied designs used in modern rifles. Look at the Winchester Model 70 with it's controlled feed bolt action operation whose lines are taken directly from the popular German K98 rifle. Many powerful sporting rifles are built on surplus P17 actions with the ears ground off.
We even copied the K98 to make our famous Springfield 1903 rifle.
The 1911 service pistol is probably one of the most copied and reproduced handguns in history and it's legacy has lasted 100 years and is still going strong.
John Moses Browning, one of the most clever American engineers that ever lived, ended up with over 128 patents that changed the face of the way we see military and civilian firearms to this day. Many of his designs are copied all over the world and for good reason.
His Browning A5 was used by the Air Corps to train gunners on shooting moving targets.
His Remington Model 8 was one of the first semi automatic rifles fielded by the FBI and other LE agencies and was one of the firearms used in popular last stand with Bonnie and Clyde.
The list and description could go on for days, but I would encourage you to research historical firearms on your own.
I think that in recent years, Military Surplus rifles have made a big comeback. With the advent of youtube video and other online social media assets, a wider and younger crowd has been drawn to them. Personally, I've probably been responsible for the sale of more Mosin Nagant rifles than any person I can think of. Not to ring my own bell or anything.
I'm glad you guys enjoy Gun Gripes. We enjoy bitching. Good day.
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Комментарии : 1,8 тыс.   
@GoCeltics734
@GoCeltics734 8 лет назад
as a milsurp collector, Im ok with them being unpopular. Keeps the price down
@daviedipper770
@daviedipper770 7 лет назад
GoCeltics734 BS, a mosin that's falling apart is worth $200 now because of people flooding the market, used to be $50 :(
@CTN-dj7fr
@CTN-dj7fr 6 лет назад
Davie Dipper WTF in Australia Mosins are $800 - $1,100! :'(
@dustinLenn
@dustinLenn 5 лет назад
I miss the 100$ Mosins!
@4968ace
@4968ace 5 лет назад
I bought my first gun recently. It’s a Mosin, thanks to Hickok and IV88. Paid $500, but it’s in beautiful condition with the stocks all original and uncracked, all the pieces have the same serial number, the bite is in great condition and all the original accessories too which is a nice bonus. Guy gave me 60 rounds of 7.62x54 as well after we had a conversation where I used some of the info I got in these guys videos.
@4968ace
@4968ace 5 лет назад
The bore *
@jlzimmerman75
@jlzimmerman75 8 лет назад
Shhhhhh! I want people to think milsurps are garbage because they're getting to damn expensive.
@mastervader1028
@mastervader1028 8 лет назад
Should say "...so I can keep them all to myself"
@alexanderredneckthe3rd2
@alexanderredneckthe3rd2 8 лет назад
Good thing that Milsurps suck. Don't buy they suck. Awful quality.
@illusiveman9512
@illusiveman9512 8 лет назад
kkk
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 лет назад
Yep!
@AlwaysBeSmart674
@AlwaysBeSmart674 7 лет назад
Shhhhh! I"M GAY AND SAY SHHHHHH
@PennsylvaniaPlinker
@PennsylvaniaPlinker 8 лет назад
I love stumbling upon the old videos and listening to Barry.
@1990HondaEFHatch
@1990HondaEFHatch 8 лет назад
what happened to him?
@1990HondaEFHatch
@1990HondaEFHatch 8 лет назад
nevermind i just clicked the final farewell of gun gripes from the videos on the side. :/
@adamalford1167
@adamalford1167 8 лет назад
+ThinkOrDie he died
@1990HondaEFHatch
@1990HondaEFHatch 8 лет назад
yeah i looked it up.
@chuckugly
@chuckugly 8 лет назад
I owe Barry for a few neat tips.
@warywolfen
@warywolfen 8 лет назад
Alvin York was also very clever. In addition to his rifle, he also used his .45 pistol. And he would move around, firing each from different locations, while shouting "orders" to nonexistent troops. He convinced the Germans that they were up against an entire squadron, not just one man.
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 6 лет назад
What a legend.
@braden1408
@braden1408 5 лет назад
A legend to say the least. However, Sgt. York used an M1917 Enfield. The American-made Enfield was pretty common in WW1, but Hollywood myths have made it seem like 1903's (also nice rifles) were what was carried.
@user-wx3wc4bo7c
@user-wx3wc4bo7c 4 года назад
I had to look high and low for a DVD copy found one eventually but it had to come from South Korea glad I got it a few years ago
@tyguy6296
@tyguy6296 9 лет назад
how could anyone hate milsurp? that's like sitting in a mint condition 1974 camaro and saying ''what a piece of crap'' no respect for the classics... for the history
@badboybootz8
@badboybootz8 9 лет назад
bad analogy bruh
@Joe11Blue
@Joe11Blue 8 лет назад
+Ty Guy A 1974 Camaro is not classic. It's an under geared heavy, slow pig.
@tyguy6296
@tyguy6296 8 лет назад
Alright... So I know guns better than I know cars. Either way my point remains the same
@Joe11Blue
@Joe11Blue 8 лет назад
Fair enough.
@iskavankritz229
@iskavankritz229 8 лет назад
+Chris SSMDad I love my 1929 Hex.
@wufongtan
@wufongtan 9 лет назад
In ww1 one Australian soldier captured 20 Germans with a can of bully (corned) beef. He showed them the can and promised more of the same if they came with him
@jeffsmith50001
@jeffsmith50001 8 лет назад
+wufongtan But without onions and pastry I would shoot.
@CaliPatriot88
@CaliPatriot88 8 лет назад
They would take those cans and turn them into makeshift grenades.
@RicTic66
@RicTic66 4 года назад
@@CaliPatriot88 That was jam tins at Gallipoli in 1915. Bully Beef tins would not be suitable as the whole top was removed (Corned Beef?) By the time America started fighting 1918 during the last 6 months of the war Mills Grenades were more than plentiful.
@TheJSmithBA
@TheJSmithBA 8 лет назад
"You can't ban assault people!"
@Subletext
@Subletext 5 лет назад
Yeah... so stop letting assault people have efficient weapons to use for assault! Y'all 2A people can have one revolver and that's it!
@LifeSavingDefense
@LifeSavingDefense 5 лет назад
Unfortunately they can elect & re-elect them... :(
@stephenhornickiii
@stephenhornickiii 5 лет назад
Technically, assault people are already banned. IT IS illegal for one person to assault another. But somehow, someway, people still wind up becoming victims of assault. It's amazing how that works. Someone should let the politicians know. LOL
@edwardpate6128
@edwardpate6128 9 лет назад
My favorite guns are my military surplus ones. Mosin Nagant, Garand, M1 Carbine, WASR-10, SKS and my Enfield SMLE with ATI stock. All are great shooters.
@lelenny4522
@lelenny4522 8 лет назад
+Edward Pate My most favorite surplus is the SKS.
@macmclallen3893
@macmclallen3893 3 года назад
I love my sks’s
@jayklink851
@jayklink851 2 года назад
Like Eric, I have an affinity for Swiss milsurps.
@rodneyrains7022
@rodneyrains7022 Год назад
Have a 03 Springfield that's fun to shoot.
@Joe11Blue
@Joe11Blue 8 лет назад
Wood furniture is what makes rifles gorgeous.
@TristanBehrens
@TristanBehrens 7 лет назад
Joe11Blue Could not agree more. Sorry, I know the comment is old but that rings true with me.
@grammarnazi7428
@grammarnazi7428 5 лет назад
Tristan Behrens I could not agree more. Sorry, I know your comment is also a year old but that rings true with me. Haha!
@SomeGuy-sj1ly
@SomeGuy-sj1ly 2 года назад
A few years ago my local ffl showed me a customized refurbished M1 he had been working on for a while. This thing was a work of art, the stock was custom made and custom stained and my god was it a beautiful rifle. It was so perfect I was white knuckling it out of fear Id drop it. Probably the most gorgeous rifle Ive ever held. I didnt even have the balls to ask him what he wanted for it, cuz I only have 1 left nut...I'm guessing he'd ask for 7.
@davidschmidt2221
@davidschmidt2221 8 лет назад
When I got my 1st Mosin I had to clean grass & dried mud out of the action & magazine before shooting it. Iron sights ding the dinger @ 300 yds consistently. I own 2, love to shoot these rifles.
@traxxdefluff4543
@traxxdefluff4543 10 лет назад
9:09 I actually prefer wooden stocks. I'm not a fan of polymer or carbon fiber because it just doesn't feel as good in my hand as a wooden stock does.
@64birdman
@64birdman 10 лет назад
I think Kalashnikov was once asked about the wooden stock on the AK-47 and replied something along the lines of, "If you are fighting hand to hand you want something more than a piece of plastic to go up against the other guy with".
@myidentityisnotimportantor1261
Jake Schmidt Plus,at close quarters,a wooden stock can bash your enemy good.Try that with a plastic stocked rifle.
@spammed999
@spammed999 9 лет назад
Jake Schmidt plastic = cancer
@quadrunner2124
@quadrunner2124 9 лет назад
I embalm you 66 No thank you.
@myidentityisnotimportantor1261
Quadrunner Haha,good one Quad ;)
@spoonman73
@spoonman73 10 лет назад
Gonna miss Barry. I could listen to you guys talk all day.
@handlesaredumb1
@handlesaredumb1 7 лет назад
Then you have the crowd who says bolts, levers, and pumps are OK because they're for hunting but semi autos are bad because they're for war. Ignorance isn't always bliss and sometimes contagious.
@Aestheticnerdlife
@Aestheticnerdlife 4 года назад
its a lot slower and harder to load those than a semi auto, when was the last time you saw a mass shooting with a bolt action rifle
@kobejordan5518
@kobejordan5518 4 года назад
@@Aestheticnerdlife if you practice it can be almost just as fast all you need is a window hunting is hunting wether human or animal its the people we need to look at not the tool.
@Aestheticnerdlife
@Aestheticnerdlife 4 года назад
@@kobejordan5518 youre an idiot, if that was the case then we would still be using the Sharps rifle.
@darkworlddenizen
@darkworlddenizen 4 года назад
Lee Harvey Oswald took out Kennedy with one. It's not a matter of rate of fire, you can change the very current of history with one well placed shot.
@Aestheticnerdlife
@Aestheticnerdlife 4 года назад
@@darkworlddenizen You can also mow down hundreds of people at a festival with a machine gun. Try to thing a little more next time.
@WhiteCavendish
@WhiteCavendish 10 лет назад
Who are these fools who hate on Milsurps? I LOVE my Milsurps. More for me!
@bandccoresohio
@bandccoresohio 7 лет назад
WhiteCavendish alot of the misinformed youth of today dont understand quality....
@mcdonkeylips
@mcdonkeylips 11 лет назад
Thank you Barry for the Sgt. Alvin York shout out. He's was my great great grampa :-) ...and yes, a badass
@drewschlosser26
@drewschlosser26 10 лет назад
Hating on the M1 Garand is like hating the willys jeep. Its an american icon and helped us win the war. Its Americana at its finest
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 6 лет назад
The Garand could've easily been an American SVD.
@indianajones99
@indianajones99 5 лет назад
@@genghiskhan6809 There was actually a Sniper version of the M1 Garand. It had a very simple scope. Was used in WW2 and Vietnam.
@sirboomsalot4902
@sirboomsalot4902 4 года назад
Craigx71 Ah, yes, it’s the typical dumb person who knows absolutely nothing about US history saying they never won any wars
@theTenthlife
@theTenthlife 9 лет назад
M1 Garand remains my favorite firearm I've ever fired. Partially because it's just a nice weapon, partially because I feel like I'm storming the beaches of Normandy. I love everything about that rifle.
@theTenthlife
@theTenthlife 9 лет назад
That's awesome! I'll never forget the first time I saw Jaws, what a great movie.
@The_SmorgMan
@The_SmorgMan 5 лет назад
Just weighed mine today. With the Olangapo stock pouch that holds 2 enblocs, one in the receiver, cleaning kit, and bayonet attached. My rifle weighs 13 pounds. Heavy pig but the recoil is nice and soft
@dennisgoldstar1963
@dennisgoldstar1963 10 лет назад
Eric, it wasn't but 3 years ago that I bought my first mosin 91/30 after watching your video on it, and BAM , my collection was started. Of the 3 91/30's that I bought for $79.per, I just sold two of them last week for $170 per! I still have a nice collection which includes an m44,; SKS; m48 Mauser, m1 carbine; AK 47, M92AK pistol etc.... So I just want to say thanks for getting me hooked on military surplus rifles.
@Mr.Inman14
@Mr.Inman14 10 лет назад
I'd be happy as hell to take an M1 Garand any day
@johnm5712
@johnm5712 11 лет назад
For me, I like the history behind every military surplus rifle. It may have seen action on D-Day, Guadalcanal, Inchon, the Battle of the Bulge, Stalingrad, etc. I have an M1 Carbine manufactured in January of 1944 and every dent and scratch in it has a story to tell. Plus, I can take it to the range and have a good time!
@ConstipatedSon
@ConstipatedSon 10 лет назад
Im a tree trunk with a barrel kind of guy. Good ol wood and steel!!! Im not a fan of this big polymer fad thats going on right now. They all just feel cheap to me, it just gives me this feeling like im afraid im going to drop it and break it, or im back when i was 5 playing with a squirt gun. Plus i dont see how they can make a gun 75% plastic and charge what they do its fucking ridiculous. Im not paying 600+ dollars for a piece of plastic.
@dylanwatson270
@dylanwatson270 9 лет назад
same here I love my old model 60, I aint really a plastic guy
@brandonlargo4384
@brandonlargo4384 9 лет назад
i have a nice rifle but its synthetic stock. ive been looking for a wood stock for it.
@OGKILLa9365
@OGKILLa9365 9 лет назад
I feel the same..only piece of plastic on my ar-15 is the pistol grip...besides that nothing is plastic..
@R281
@R281 4 года назад
Doesn't wood change shape with moisture? I'm asking because I've heard this and I wonder if it affects accuracy.
@konfederate6277144
@konfederate6277144 11 лет назад
My Father who served Honorably in the U.S. Military and then as a Texas peace officer for 34 years passed away last week loved you Chuck! I wish you could have met him!... He turned me on to your videos~ I just added a Mosin Nagant to my collection... Although I still love my American made fire-arms... Keep up the great work guys!
@Schroeder_-yh4sq
@Schroeder_-yh4sq 8 лет назад
well I guarantee you that a mosin will last longer than an ar-15.
@nickhowatson4745
@nickhowatson4745 7 лет назад
I doubt it.
@Schroeder_-yh4sq
@Schroeder_-yh4sq 7 лет назад
Nicholas Howatson I see plenty of 50+ year old bolt actions still around. All it takes is a spring to break on an AR-15 and its completely out if commission until you find a replacement spring. Mosin Nagants are simply more rugged inherently because its a bolt action. Most bolt actions will outlast semi automatics due to there being less moving parts.
@akshooter762
@akshooter762 7 лет назад
funny you say that... I have had my tula M44 for years and not one problem with it after hundreds of rounds.... I had my AR for only a few months only 30rds thru it.... a few weeks ago I had it leaned up against my desk, some how it fell... not really a hard hit at all..... and guess what..... it broke.
@bwilson9535
@bwilson9535 7 лет назад
Detective John Kimble obviously you have no common sense
@ryanstar463
@ryanstar463 7 лет назад
Detective John Kimble you can literally just break a spring in an AR and the gun will jam , for example the spring inside the shoulder stock
@dannichls1
@dannichls1 10 лет назад
Nothing better than a good old M1 or a good old bolt action rifle. Y'all are completely right about the Milsurps.
@didierdraugba2523
@didierdraugba2523 9 лет назад
My first firearm was an Ishapore 2A1 made in India, 7.62x51mm NATO, 12 years old, I didn't get my .22 until I was 16 years old.
@Iraqveteran8888
@Iraqveteran8888 11 лет назад
Tell me about it. Just got my hands on a minty 1891 Argentine Mauser made in 1892. Looking good for a gun pushing over 120 years old. BTW...surplus rifle range videos in the pipeline (like within the next 2 months): 1891 Argentine Mauser, Remington Rolling Block carbine in 43 Spanish, and a Siamese Mauser in 8x52r. I haven't forgotten about the old girls, just been a little busy.
@WAQWBrentwood
@WAQWBrentwood 8 лет назад
I'm a "gun nut" (rifles,mainly) who never got "ga-ga" over a "beautiful" Weatherby or other sporting guns. Give me any SMLE first. People (gun snobs..) Military rifles are much more fascinating to me. On the old yarn that all mil-surp guns have been "shot to hell" should see the bore of my Polish Mosin-Nagant M44! Since it's post WWII production (1952), I believe I've put more rounds through it than the Polish Army!
@jdl6881
@jdl6881 7 лет назад
Yeah I never cared for the hunting rifles they just look bad. The only ones I own are a 30 06 Savage that was my first rifle as a child so it means something to me and a Savage 338 Lapua the tactical package model. I also use to be all tactical cool with the ar ak scar ect crap although I love those guns to death I just somehow found something in old milsurp guns that I love it's weird also because as much guns that I have that are thousands of dollars I end up picking my 303 smle to go shoot I only spent 185 on the damn thing. It's just cool I guess I'm just a historian nut
@mobstamaniac
@mobstamaniac 7 лет назад
I got a Polish M44 myself, 1952 as well actually. I love it, great deal of fun that gun is.
@fandaburiri95
@fandaburiri95 11 лет назад
Whatever you guys do, keep these 2 on the show. Barry reminds me of my days growing up in Atlanta GA with the Good ole boys;. I love you guys man.
@barefoofDr
@barefoofDr 9 лет назад
Get a Swiss K-31 7.5x55. They are absolute perfection 1 MOA.
@DemonHunter2711
@DemonHunter2711 8 лет назад
or a lee enfield smle mk3 bolt is so smooth
@rednecksniper4715
@rednecksniper4715 8 лет назад
Yes they will so will Finnish M39 mosins
@Swissk31300BO
@Swissk31300BO 8 лет назад
I been trying to find one for 250 or 300 for 2 months.
@That_NJ_guy
@That_NJ_guy 6 лет назад
Got a k31, k11, 96/11 and two years later you wouldn't believe how the prices exploded on some of these milsurps.
@user-ge2qn6gp4o
@user-ge2qn6gp4o 4 года назад
When I got old enough to purchase my own firearm the first gun I bought was a Mosin that I got at a local gun shop for $65. I thought the wood stock was beautiful and I loved the history of classic firearms. I learned how to shoot a "proper" caliber with that rifle.
@anttinurminen6692
@anttinurminen6692 8 лет назад
Simo Häyhä used Finnish variant of Mosin-Nagant without any scopes as his tool as a sniper.
@556deltawolf
@556deltawolf 7 лет назад
This is an old video but little error. Alvin York didn't use a Springfield rifle. He used a Model 1917 American Enfield.
@missilemandan
@missilemandan 7 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing.
@jeffreyreardon7487
@jeffreyreardon7487 7 лет назад
556deltawolf he did
@ralphhicks6509
@ralphhicks6509 5 лет назад
Amen I said that too
@devinpetersen2387
@devinpetersen2387 4 года назад
No he used a springfield not a U S. .30 1917. He hated the sight picture so he traded it for a springfield as soon as he arrived overseas.
@DATDEEBOITRE13
@DATDEEBOITRE13 10 лет назад
My condolences goes out to the family of Barry he will be missed thanks for the review s and all your dedication and standing up for are second amendment rights thanks again for doing what you guys at the shop are doing your highly appreciated
@TheCrazyGamer808
@TheCrazyGamer808 11 лет назад
Im glad you mentioned that, I completely forgot about the iron sights. That just reinforces what can be done with a weapon like this if one puts the work and time into personalizing and becoming accurate with it. I have a Mosin and I love it. It might not be the best gun ever, but it has worked pretty well for me, plus they dont cost an arm and a leg.
@militiamanusa7864
@militiamanusa7864 10 лет назад
Mosin is still in use in Syria ;)
@al01100
@al01100 10 лет назад
Mosins can be found all over africa and the middle east. It is still a formidable rifle in the hands of a proficient shooter
@militiamanusa7864
@militiamanusa7864 10 лет назад
I agree 100% I have a 1942 91/30 and it shoots like a charm. I love my mosin.
@spencersmith7583
@spencersmith7583 10 лет назад
Mosin is still in use in more than Syria, Africa, North Korea (reserve troops) Poor Countries in South east Asia, The Mosin is still used by the third world because the Soviets and Chines gave them out by the Millions and they still work. Its a grate rifle for what it is.
@militiamanusa7864
@militiamanusa7864 10 лет назад
In our Militia well train with Mosins alot haha you can outfit 10 people(Marksman) with little cost.
@spencersmith7583
@spencersmith7583 10 лет назад
MilitiaManUSA Thats another very good point. The Mosin is a grate gun for people, or countries on a budget. I cant afford a new AR15 but a Mosin can be had by almost anyone (in a free country) and you are definitly NOT unarmed with a Mosin Nagant.
@Grantherum
@Grantherum 10 лет назад
Like the comment "You cant ban assault people."
@rayd.5929
@rayd.5929 9 лет назад
yeah me too
@89tonstar
@89tonstar 10 лет назад
Alvin York used an M1917 chambered for 30-06 to capture over 200 Germans. Otherwise known as the American enfield!
@liamcallaghan6341
@liamcallaghan6341 9 лет назад
He killed 20 and captured 132 Germans not over 200
@89tonstar
@89tonstar 9 лет назад
Source?
@skmongol
@skmongol 9 лет назад
tbone martinez During the assault, six German soldiers in a trench near York charged him with fixed bayonets. York had fired all the rounds in his M1917 Enfield rifle, but drew his .45 Colt automatic pistol and shot all six soldiers before they could reach him. German First Lieutenant Paul Jürgen Vollmer, commander of the First Battalion, 120th Landwehr Infantry, emptied his pistol trying to kill York while he was contending with the machine guns. Failing to injure York, and seeing his mounting losses, he offered in English to surrender the unit to York, who accepted. By the end of the engagement, York and his seven men marched 132 German prisoners back to the American lines. His actions silenced the German machine guns and were responsible for enabling the 328th Infantry to renew its attack to capture the Decauville Railroad.
@009013M3
@009013M3 10 лет назад
I've taken my $109.95 M44 and made a new sear set for it by hand, adjusted the receiver ears to maximize trigger consistency, polished everything up, and built a trigger pre-tensioner to minimize uptake. Shooting my hand-loads it groups better than any of the 700's that my buddies have.
@Tripp426
@Tripp426 11 лет назад
I would love to own a milsurp rifle. Each one is such a piece of history.
@AtlasJotun
@AtlasJotun 5 лет назад
My 1943 91/30 approves of this video. Still got that wood stock... for now.
@lordnevetsz
@lordnevetsz 10 лет назад
RIP ERIC
@WorldwideBushcraftSurvival
@WorldwideBushcraftSurvival 10 лет назад
? Barry died?
@lordnevetsz
@lordnevetsz 10 лет назад
mooshdaddy123 Yeah my bad a workmate that subs to this channel said it was Eric but yeah I saw the latest gripe and it was Barry that passed away. Rip old boy, you are arming the Angels now mate.
@Lofi.z34
@Lofi.z34 10 лет назад
lordnevetsz Wow ... -.-
@haildin345
@haildin345 9 лет назад
this made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂😂
@Wondering_Ghoul
@Wondering_Ghoul 8 лет назад
I LOVE my 91/30! I haven't done a thing to it except clean off the cosmoline and it shoots like a dream. I need to bed the barrel and see how it shoots! Just wish I could get the bulk surplus ammo without paying an arm and a leg for it.
@LJPMotorsports
@LJPMotorsports 10 лет назад
With all due respect, I believe Sgt. York was issued the m1917 Eddystone, not the m1903 Springfield. The majority of the U.S. Army was using the m1917...the Marine Corps was using the m1903...
@paulzimmerli
@paulzimmerli 10 лет назад
You just shot a possible! Bravo! Alvin York himself, in his diary, says he used the Model 1917 rifle, not the 1903 shown in the movie. The movie version used the 1903 because the Army unit "loaned" to the studio for the movie carried the 1903...
@charleswild1359
@charleswild1359 4 года назад
I once had( it was stolen from me a few years back) a 1917 Eddystone Enfield 30.06. I wish I still had it. I shot my first deer with it.
@tripplebeards5588
@tripplebeards5588 5 лет назад
My first mil surplus I just restore back to all original, unaltered spec was a M1917 Winchester enfield. I took it out to sight it in a few weeks ago and shot a three shot group all in one little hole at 100 yards with a random load I picked out of Sierra’s reloading manual. I knew it was an Accurate rifle as it shot .5” groups at 100 yards with a bedded stock, Timney trigger, and a 12x optic. I didn’t think it was going to shoot anywhere that tight with the original trigger back in, the original stock set(unbedded with barrel clamps stressing it), and no optic to boot! I went out and bout an all original, Norinco SKS I should have bout 20 years ago for $89 the next day for $270. I’m hooked!
@Perry2186
@Perry2186 10 лет назад
the only problem I have personally with mill surp bolts is none of them are left handed
@WillGreenZilla
@WillGreenZilla 11 лет назад
I love milsurp guns. I just got my C&R FFL recently and my first buy was a 1952 Tokarev. A quick cleanup, lube and oil, a grip swap (to Tokagypt), and a pinky extension on the mag and the gun shoots like a laser beam. Just ordered a hex 91/30 mosin nagant and I cannot wait to get it in at my front door! :D
@Sky-Lan3
@Sky-Lan3 8 лет назад
+Iraqveteran8888 Alvin York used a M1917 American Enfield(Eddystone) rifle,not a M1903.
@jeffreyreardon7487
@jeffreyreardon7487 8 лет назад
Yes he did
@jeffreyreardon7487
@jeffreyreardon7487 8 лет назад
Yes he did
@america8706
@america8706 8 лет назад
It's highly debated which one he used, there are different accounts of what rifle he used. I personally think he used the P17 but I'm biased since I have one.
@nickhowatson4745
@nickhowatson4745 7 лет назад
why not both? lol
@america8706
@america8706 7 лет назад
Nicholas Howatson thats an odd image Sgt. York dual-weilding a P17 and a 1903. Would be tough to cycle without hands but York was a tough man.
@Allofthemonkeys
@Allofthemonkeys 11 лет назад
My hunting rifle is an old Springfield 1903 that my grandfather bought back in the 50's and sporterized. Still trucking on great
@dhoffnun
@dhoffnun 10 лет назад
I completely agree with the idea that the person kills, not the gun. That said - I'd like to point out the common factor in many high profile gun crimes in the US - psychoactive medication. This affects the person - and when a person is affected this way, I don't think we should trust them with a tool that allows them to kill so effectively.
@TheTalman1
@TheTalman1 10 лет назад
and those people aren't allowed to have guns but its never been enforced very well
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 7 лет назад
I have a 1908 built RIA m1903, with a 1909 made barrel. Shes running strong, nailing quarter sized groups at 200 yards
@TheGearhead222
@TheGearhead222 9 лет назад
I have 11 Mosin-Nagants, ranging from a 1915 Tula barreled action in a 1916 Sestroryetsk stock to a Finnish M-39 with brass shims from the factory. My only gripe is the 7.62 x 54R cartridge, as it MUST be loaded properly or it WILL hang!:(-John in Texas
@igardub2336
@igardub2336 8 лет назад
you by any chance want to sell one or two?
@igardub2336
@igardub2336 8 лет назад
you by any chance want to sell one or two?
@Jake-kv6ru
@Jake-kv6ru 6 лет назад
You sellin?
@bea2717
@bea2717 7 лет назад
Love my 03-A3, most accurate rife I own and its 73 years old
@daytonasixty-eight1354
@daytonasixty-eight1354 10 лет назад
RIP BARRY - Respect from the west coast. You were a real homie.
@mattr918
@mattr918 11 лет назад
i have an sks you guys worked on. my grandfather brought it back from Vietnam. it saw war, it drug through mud, it was in the hands of a Vietcong soldier when the man was killed by a grenade and was also damaged by the blast. and it still shoots great!
@thetobaccoguy1751
@thetobaccoguy1751 11 лет назад
Why take the time to trick out a $100 rifle? Because I can buy quality, full powered 7.62x54r ammo for $3.50 a box. I've saved enough money on ammo shooting my Mosin build to buy a brand new Rem 700.
@zeek3177
@zeek3177 11 лет назад
because its cool to see at "$100" mosin nagant out shoot a Rem 700 with a nice set of optics and (yes it is possible), btw if u scratch a nagant its no biggy, scratch a Rem 700 thats seven times the price and your heart will skip a beat (or at least mine would) just sayin
@thetobaccoguy1751
@thetobaccoguy1751 11 лет назад
Right on. There is also something satisfying about taking a 100 year old gun and lovin it up to perform as well as a current production rifle. Again with the ammo, it allows you to practice much more for the money. I would never dream of shooting 2-3 boxes of .308 in a sitting. Your talking a $75 bill. The same from a Mosin runs $11-12, with the same smack. Plus you can't deny the history that is soaked into those rifles.
@MuseM1911
@MuseM1911 10 лет назад
Hans S. Not to mention that same crappy wooden stock is damn good at smashing heads. Don't wanna scratch that new Remington!
@thetobaccoguy1751
@thetobaccoguy1751 10 лет назад
J Simpson Lol. Did you see Eric smashing cinderblocks with a Mosin stock in their torture test? Crazy. I tell people all the time, a 90 year old mosin will outlive basically any current production rifle out there. You have to think, most modern hunting rifles get fired what? 5 times a year at most? Modern hunting rifles are not designed shoot thousands of rounds. I put more rounds through my mosin in one range outing than most guys do their 30-30 in their lives. I love my mosins.
@MuseM1911
@MuseM1911 10 лет назад
I did see that! I found a Mousin Nagant for $175 where I live so I might get it soon. I like the simplicity of the gun. No useless bells or whistles. My kind of rifle.
@pim1234
@pim1234 11 лет назад
I had a Lee Enfield No5 Jungle carbine from WW2 and an Enfield FAL from the Falkland War and both were great !
@chrisreese2965
@chrisreese2965 10 лет назад
I don't have my gun license yet, but I have been thinking about getting my license. I wasn't sure what type of gun I should start out with. I was looking at PIstols, so I figured the Tokerov handgun. I figured a handgun would be cheaper, since it's smaller and there's not a lot to them. BUT, after looking at videos of the SKS, and the Enfield No. 4 I am starting to feel a change in the wind. Really starting to get into these military surplus weapons. I am a big lover of history, and these guns have a lot of history behind them.
@raptorjezus6106
@raptorjezus6106 10 лет назад
What communist state do you live in that requires you to have a license to own a gun?
@chrisreese2965
@chrisreese2965 10 лет назад
Lol. I don't live in a state. I live in Canada.
@raptorjezus6106
@raptorjezus6106 10 лет назад
Well, I could be a douchebag and point out that it's technically a state, just not in the fashion most Americans would think. I'm sorry you need a license in Canada though. Also, take your polar vortex back up there and I'll try to keep my 110 degree heat down here.
@chrisreese2965
@chrisreese2965 10 лет назад
Yea, you can send some of that heat up this way. I'm sick of this cold weather and snow.
@8x56
@8x56 10 лет назад
Find some folks that have some old military iron and ask if you could shoot them. I've several '03 Springfields in 30-06 an Enfield "jungle gun" but I prefer to hunt with a '95 Chilean Mauser in 7x57. Anawful lot of these old guns especially Mausers were rechambered in calibers other than 6.5, 7x57 or 8x57and sporterized. I cannot fault the accuracy of the Mauser with the original barrel one bit. A word of caution on the older Mausers and low serial number Springfields and hot loads.
@konfederate6277144
@konfederate6277144 11 лет назад
I would just like to tell Chuck Moss from Moss Pawn & Guns, My father who passed away last week, Loved every video you commented on and participated in!!! He loved your opinions! Keep these videos coming.... Mark Konwicki 1958-2013
@davidbowen5621
@davidbowen5621 8 лет назад
Hitler allegedly captured 8 french soldiers with only a P08 Luger in WWI
@mastervader1028
@mastervader1028 8 лет назад
Well, they're French, after all
@TerriblyIronic9
@TerriblyIronic9 8 лет назад
+Austin franklin in ww1 he was part of a courier company bud. It wasn't until his time in a mental hospital and recovering from what was supposed hysteria caused blindness that he brought his party to german political power through systemic political assassination
@austinfranklin6334
@austinfranklin6334 8 лет назад
+Evan Stanley I think you might know a little too much about Hitler man. are you a nazi
@bigmikeobama523
@bigmikeobama523 6 лет назад
Evan Stanley he got gassed and lost his vision for a while is what I read
@MrHobgoblin1396
@MrHobgoblin1396 11 лет назад
My fist rifle was a military surplus, a mosen nagant from 1938 and it still shoots better then any rifle I've ever used.
@cjlaw100
@cjlaw100 7 лет назад
"you can't ban assault people"
@SuperZeke86
@SuperZeke86 10 лет назад
"you cant stop assault people". This is a great argument and needs to be used more when mentioning assault weapon bans.
@NotAllBooksSmellNice
@NotAllBooksSmellNice 10 лет назад
I completely agree that guns aren't inherently bad. That said, why not have universal background checks. I love guns, so why not have universal background checks in exchange for the right to own machine guns or 30 round magazines.
@baseballalltheway18
@baseballalltheway18 9 лет назад
We already have background checks. The only time we don't have a background check is in private sales, and they could never be implemented there just because there's no way to enforce it. "Universal background checks" sound good on paper, but the farthest that it could be implemented is the current system we have.
@Drinksalotobeer
@Drinksalotobeer 11 лет назад
Thank you, for talking about the old stuff, that no one in Polk Co. Florida really talks about, or knows about. I own a few relics myself, and never get tired of hearing, or talking about them.
@killerbunny3192
@killerbunny3192 10 лет назад
plz do one on the k31
@Luthtar
@Luthtar 10 лет назад
Already have done it. Look it up.
@MrHondaguy1
@MrHondaguy1 11 лет назад
My 1923 M91/30 is totally stock and with the bayonette attached I was picking off 12 oz cans and 3 inch diameter clay pigeons at 25 to 50 yards along with 2 liter bottles at 100 yards not even trying hard. They are among my favorites.
@austincutty4548
@austincutty4548 8 лет назад
german k98 Mauser is the best rifle ever made
@Sky-Lan3
@Sky-Lan3 8 лет назад
Best military bolt action rifle you mean.
@austincutty4548
@austincutty4548 8 лет назад
Well bolt action yes
@Imissthefuhrer
@Imissthefuhrer 7 лет назад
austin cutty agreed, the K98 is a laser. I have found that I can shoot the most accurate at long distance with a K98.
@Danny.D93
@Danny.D93 7 лет назад
Yeah no, SMLE mk 4 all the way.
@genghiskhan6809
@genghiskhan6809 6 лет назад
Can you rechamber it in 30-06 or .308?
@gungho1345
@gungho1345 11 лет назад
I have a 1903 Springfield made by Remington. It was given to my granddad (a WWII vet) by the American Legion. It is a joy to shoot. As a 4th gen Legionnaire I plan to pass it on to my son after his tour of duty.
@Imightberiding
@Imightberiding 10 лет назад
I often take exception to most things stated on this channel but I will say with confidence that the old Enfield 303 that I used on many hunting excursions worked just fine. Open iron sights & two dear taken at a significantly distant sporting distance.
@mikerobinson3672
@mikerobinson3672 9 лет назад
Glad to hear someone else using an old 303 british for deer hunting. My 03A3 is a nice rifle but the Enfield 303 is like a Cadillac compared to the 03A3.
@tjsogmc
@tjsogmc 9 лет назад
Mike Robinson I have taken many deer over the last 25 years with my Enfield 2A1 Ishapore. Solid rifle, well made and accurate. I don't understand why some folks look down on the idea of hunting with a milsurp, they are accurate, hit hard and designed to be rugged in the field- everything a hunting rifle should be.
@travisbickle7931
@travisbickle7931 10 лет назад
I have to agree with you on this one - one of my favorite rifles is 1947 mosin nagant that still had the factory cosmoline in the barrel when I bought it- I can still hit well out to 200-300 yds with it and that's all I need for deer
@elemsit
@elemsit 10 лет назад
a month ago i bought a M44 for $130 bucks out the door from a local pawn shop in fantastic condition. First time out, first shot busted a 2 liter at 100 yards. Love it.
@skeetshooting7712
@skeetshooting7712 11 лет назад
A lot of older guns manufactured in the sixties and seventies have way better build quality than a lot of guns today
@franzvanjulio5523
@franzvanjulio5523 4 года назад
Nothing gets my attention and develops a sense of awe than discussion of WWI on out and stories of what average people facing incredible circumstances had to overcome. I have really enjoyed watching the videos with Barry and unfortunately have only done so posthumously. I have quickly learned to appreciate him and enjoy his knowledge and wit.
@anthonymaddix4063
@anthonymaddix4063 6 лет назад
I love my No.1 Mk.3* in 303 and it is a tack driver
@danielmottweiler
@danielmottweiler 10 лет назад
I love old school military rifles.Had a 1893 Spanish Mauser chambered for 6.5×55 Swedish. Shot very well.
@oninoshinobi
@oninoshinobi 10 лет назад
"You can't ban assault PEOPLE." Eric, that was the best thing I've heard said In a really long time!
@bill65264
@bill65264 11 лет назад
My first high powered rifle was a two groove 03A3 built by Remington arms. It has a cut down military stock. I have dropped a few running whitetail with it. the best was a 180 yard going away down hill.
@TheBeaker59
@TheBeaker59 7 лет назад
I hunt with a sporterised 6.5 x 55 Swedish mauser what a fantastic hunting rifle, but my 303 No4 Mk1* is awesome fun plinking down at the quarry with cast lead reloads so cheap and cheerful and being an as issued rifle just like my Father would have trained with before he served in the Pacific. He didn't use one in the field though because he flew an F4U corsair with 6 x 0.5 BMG's something I couldn't afford to play with down at the quarry :)
@OurLanding
@OurLanding 11 лет назад
My new Mosin is grouping 1 1/2 inches out of the box. I can work the bolt with one finger. Can't beat that!
@melomanic68
@melomanic68 10 лет назад
I prefer all those classic military surplus rifles over this tactical plastic stuff...but this is just my opinion
@YardSaladKing
@YardSaladKing 9 лет назад
I have a mosin that has been made into a precision rifle. A blueprinted bolted action can cost you less than $250. I recommend green mountain barrels. Mine has a McGowen barrel, but a good rebarrel, and trueing of the bolted receiver will turn your milsurp mosin into a precision rifle. I also recommend a timney trigger.
@SocialRegressive
@SocialRegressive 11 лет назад
I've been considering that trigger. I've heard the trigger well needs a little prep work before the Timney drops in, but that sounds easy enough.
@sesfilmsllc
@sesfilmsllc 5 лет назад
I’m a big fan of historical or period based movies, Raiders of the lost ark, The mummy (1999), Quigley down under, Tombstone, Young guns 1 and 2. If I were to make movies like that, I would definitely be on the look out for milsurp guns.
@6101942
@6101942 11 лет назад
I have the following MILSURP guns and love everyone. A Mosin Nagant model 1891 made in 1906, a Yugo. SKS made in 1970, a Tokarev model 54-1 made in Chine by Norinco in 1954, a Walther P1/P38 made in 1983. All a good shooters and did not cost an arm and a leg.
@MrAlaskanIgloo
@MrAlaskanIgloo 11 лет назад
Eric and Barry, thanks for getting me addicted to collecting milsurp rifles. Just picked up a very nice Chinese SKS Type 56 this morning which brings me up to 11 total (and counting). I don't think that I can be cured. If anyone has a milsurp that they don't want anymore, I'll be happy to buy it. I own several AR-15's and AK's, but there's something about a rifle with a wood stock that appeals to me.
@tuomasheikkila3628
@tuomasheikkila3628 11 лет назад
Interesting thing to note: Finnish Defense Forces still to this day use the Mosin-Nagant as a designated sniper rifle, 7.62 Tarkkuuskivääri 85. They took some of the surplus rifles and shipped them Gun Depot 1 in Kuopio where they were heavily modified, the stock is way different and the barrel is heavier, but the receivers are the same. They are a bit rougher to shoot than the newer TRG 42's, but with a good scope I could easily get 15 bulls eyes in a row at 300 meters.
@DirtRoadLanding
@DirtRoadLanding 2 года назад
I Miss Barry and the early IV8888 videos!!!
@bhoward9378
@bhoward9378 Год назад
Yep.
@8mmfanatic
@8mmfanatic 11 лет назад
A year ago I would have talked crap about your mosin. Now, I'm just glad people can get some sort of milsurp rifle and have fun with it.
@abandonedsc4261
@abandonedsc4261 10 лет назад
I can hit anything i need to with my Springfield 1903 Awesome rifle!
@rcbif101
@rcbif101 11 лет назад
Soooo many different kinds of mosins. But if you have a mosin, you need a regular length infantry rifle, and a carbine (m-44, m-39) and then there are the finnish rebuilt mosins which are amazing quality, rebuilt with heavy barrels and target triggers. They are very collectable.
@humpy936
@humpy936 8 лет назад
Love me some military surplus, stuff used to be very cheap 10 or more years ago, now it's getting sky high.
@Hanrahan32
@Hanrahan32 11 лет назад
I'm 15 and I shoot High power Competition. I love the Garand and Springfield so much, and with my rebuild Springfield with a Criterion and a Service Grade M1, I can hold scores under the top 100/1000+ at the National Matches at Camp Perry! Far more fun than shooting the Service Rifle AR across the course!
@konfederate6277144
@konfederate6277144 11 лет назад
I can not wait to visit your shop... You fellas seem like stand up, die-hard guys!!! Hard to find these days... Semper Fi.
@shemp308
@shemp308 11 лет назад
Just a note! There are guys like myself that love older rifles with wood stocks. No I don't own a m1 but most of my rifles have wood and I do own polymer but a nice old school stocks just look so nice like a fine piece of furniture !
@mikescott9726
@mikescott9726 5 лет назад
The only regret I have for being a milsurp collector is that I did not start early enough. I started about 6 to 7 years ago. Even since then almost all the firearms I bought (rifles) have at least doubled in retail value, some tripled. Some of my treasures I have had to pay up for. Swiss K31 very good condition 895. jungle carbine #5 650.00 with matching bayonet, the rest were very good prices. Just one example I scored a SVT40 for about 300.00 about 3 years ago. Anyway love to watch the old gun vids and keep up the hard work.
@martymclean4355
@martymclean4355 9 лет назад
OMG! I can't agree more. you worked over 3 of my WISH guns. The 1903, Mossin and the Gerand were and are still great platforms as they sit but with tiny tinkerings they can out shoot the sleek, black super cool moderns. Thanks for this one guys, and if that 1903 A4 is still around, let's talk prices.
@NolanMGI
@NolanMGI 11 лет назад
Eric is right, most guys either think if it's new it has to be better, or they're too lazy to put any work in. I've always been interested in milsurp weapons but was too afraid i'd ruin value, but Eric and all his videos on Mosins really changed that and helped me get into smithing other firearms. Did two other mosin jobs for friends and we plan on taking them for some deer, and still spent less money improving milsurps to take out deer.
@TheJwmaddo
@TheJwmaddo 11 лет назад
Don't forget the K31, regardless that it was never tested during war time, it's very accurate and well done. The GP11 ammo is the best surplus ammo I've ever used.
@dwent77
@dwent77 11 лет назад
I love the classic War surplus rifles! SOO much history. I only have one 7 69 x 54 Mosin lol I sit nexts to the DMPS AR in the safe. It has a good bang a lot of usage, When I shoot i feel the ghosts from every shoot i take with it. You should get you one!.
@KorieG
@KorieG 11 лет назад
I just want to say thanks Eric and Barry! I found this video so entertaining and informative! Thank you so much again! Keep up the good work! Later...
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