This is why I love Rob so much. He's not just a great shooter, he is a FANTASTIC teacher that truly understands the fine art of shooting. He teaches me something new every time I watch. On the other hand...the journalist. Wow, he needs to take some more lessons from Rob. When he was yanking that trigger and it wasn't firing, holy cow, you could see he is either an inexperienced shooter, or just a bad one.
I like Leatham's approach where he drills down to what a stance, grip, method, or whatever is meant to solve. All these techniques are meant to solve a problem in shooting and they focus on some principle. Leatham teaches us about that principle and takes it from there. I would like to add this, though: When you introduce a thing like body-armour into the problem, then stance does matter. You want to strongest part of the armour to front the enemy. So that limits the amount of options available. Again, in Leatham's style: The principle is to 'offer the plate' to the enemy. Take it from there!
I was able to double tap my friends .45 just from watching 2 of Rob's instructional videos on gun control. Your getting free lessons from a grandmaster pistol marksman here. Pay attention it can only make you a better shot. This and the aiming is useless video alone will make anyone a better shot. He just explains it better than most people.
Great message here. People get too obsessed with ''positions''. It is the WORST with golf instruction. But that's another topic.. In the end its simple really.. what is your task? Your task will dictate what you need to do. If your task is to shoot at a specific target and be as accurate as possible, then the only thing you should concern yourself with is keeping control of the recoil of the gun! It doesn't matter if you're prone, in a staggered stance, in a square stance, standing on one leg, standing sideways and shooting with one hand, or even in a crouch or half kneel... a responsible gun owner should learn to shoot from DIFFERENT positions, because when it comes down to actually having to use it in a life threatening situation, the environment around you and the defensive situation you may be in will DICTATE what position you must shoot from!! That being said, I hope no one here has to ever use their weapon in self defense. Stay safe.
Rob is fantastic. I had hit a plateau on speed and stance. Once he debunked these myths, my shooting ability has improved immediately . Programmed stances are foolish; trigger squeezing is foolish. Abolishing these (2) conventional theories are great for teaching novices, but not shooters that have thrown thousands of rounds down range. Now I can hit head shots while moving. Rob has guts and is great!
In Japanese martial arts, the concept of proper posture or shizentai, is crucial. Whether cutting with a katana, striking with a jo, hitting with a hanbo, or punching -- proper posture improves performance. This is an excellent video.
True, but in all martial arts, one is not just using isometric strength and resistance to force. One is typically trying to move their own body around, as well as someone else's, and is rapidly and powerfully extending and retracting limbs, which requires more force than counteracting recoil, but also each limb extension changes the center of gravity and balance, whereas shooting does not. So yes in Japanese martial arts (and others) stance is crucial, but one can't extrapolate from that that stance is crucial in shooting as well. Thanks.
@@davidhoffman6980 respectfully disagree. Posture does not mean erect and head held high, it means proper ‘stand’ when running, falling, leaping - it just means proper bodily control to render the strike/cut/punch/shot most effective.
@SurfingOnMars Thanks for the polite response. I didn't define stance as erect posture with head held high, so I'm not sure why you mentioned it, although I was mistaken to say "stance". You said "posture" not "stance" and that was my mistake.
@@davidhoffman6980 good lord, sir, an honest mistake, and a minor one, but to concede the small error rather than becoming indignant? We’re both violating the Interwebs Code of Horrible Behavior!
Thank you, it's not the stance you chose, but how well it works for you, all are different. I choose the weave modified (Chapman) stance, for the reason to minimize my chest to the threat as I have no chest protector the largest target on me. Balance is the key in any stance on chooses.
Thank you Rob. You are a great instructor as well as a champion shot. I appreciate and use your wise instruction. May God bless you, your talent and your life.
Great lesson, maybe they need to change the name of isosceles stance to isosceles “hold”, the concept of balance to counteract the force of recoil makes more sense with a slight forward body pressure to counteract the recoil
Great video. Very nice job of keeping your temper when he shoved you. That along with his smirk would have really pissed me off. I've been looking for some good advice to improve my speed and accuracy and your series of videos is Just what the doctor ordered. Thanks Rob!
There was a missing question - What is the purpose of the shooting? I would argue a competition shooters stance SHOULD be different than someone in a combat zone, or LEO taking fire. Do you want to take one perfect shot or multiple quickly...every application is different.
Reality, there are so many factors that come into play. Did i make first contact, am i being ambushed, am i standing, sitting, laying down... Do i have cover/concealment, am i wearing armour, what ground am i standing on, am i constipated... so many factors If someone ever tells you one way is the only way, they don't live in the same reality as everyone else.
I've watched a video earlier where someone absolutely advised against the Weaver stance, and he argued that it would make you swerve up on rapid shot succession. I thought that was pretty nonsensical, as there are people who can shoot very rapidly in Weaver stance, and are right on target the whole time. Good to hear it from a professonal that stance doesn't matter that much. It's what I was expecting.
Most people don’t have enough money for ammunition or time to spend to figure this out. We’re not employees of a manufacturer given unlimited resources to refine techniques. So basic stances work out for us. It’s economy of effort
I just finished watching a video of Jerry Michalek who is a world champion as well as Rob Latham Jerry swears by the isosceles when he first started shooting he was using the Weaver and he explained why it was wrong stating that it’s not natural rob took it to a whole Nother level The leaning forward concept makes a lot of sense but there’s no way that you can find a balance without having another person helping you how can I learn this by myself any constructed answers is well appreciated.
high grip with a stock grip safety. Very common with the high grip like you should use. It is why modern and aftermarket grip safeties have the bump on the bottom
As an instructor myself, I've learned a lot from rob about teaching technique. Incidentally, who was the interviewer? Kind of a knucklehead. Odd how a gun review guy doesn't even know how to shoot. If rob had to tell him to engage the GRIP SAFETY then he doesn't even have a clue on grip. That passively disengages with any proper grip. Maybe he was just nervous around a master, but he probably shouldn't be a firearms reporter either. It'd be like me reporting on football. Ya, I've seen it played. But I admit I have no business acting like an industry professional or reporter or commentator. And when he shoved rob?? I hope rob cleared that first. Pretty bold and presumptuous if not.
When someone is caught off guard learning a new technique, it's common for someone to forget their fundamentals. You notice at the end, Rob mentions the writer has "hand issues". The problem with the 1911 grip safety is too many people concentrate on pushing upward to the bore axis instead of getting as high as possible but then pushing inward.
SuperOpinion8ed I was surprised that jack ass didn’t show enough respect at first like maybe he’s buddy buddy with Rob, but I doubt it. I don’t like that guy I think he has a ego problem, looks like it to me anyway 😏
The One and Only golf is all about fundamentals, if you don’t have a proper grip, alignment, and stance good luck! There is definitely different ways and rhythms of a golf swing. But at its core good golfers make the same move to the ball at impact.
Good enough FOR HIM! Possibly NOT for you or I. In my CCP qualification I was using a "modified Weaver". The instructor/range master stepped over to suggest a change, until he saw that ALL my hits were w/in 8 inches n center body mass. He backed off, thinking "looks like it works (for me). Rock on!"
Isn't that great. Once a master the obvious comes out - "doesn't matter you have to have balance". So great Rob. Thanks. (all strength comes from hips - energy comes from center - mind controls happiness which allows these. to shoot well you have to be happy; love the shot. your happiness will take care of the principles you need: center, hips. and don't forget George Patton - do the obvious) Great video.
Stance is not important if you are just shooting down a range. It gets important when you are in a combat or hostile situation where you need to see your surroundings in a much better way.
A Viet Nam Vet told me he was trained to shoot one handed, standing sideways to the target. The purpose being, it makes your body half as wide and a smaller target in relation to the person shooting at you.
i could see that, did basic training for the CAF (Canadian armed forces) and they said that they would face they're torso at the target and lean forward, the hope is that if you did get shot, it would be in ur flak jacket. But its not like they wore those in Vietnam. I guess it all changes with the times.
The old bullseye shooters are taught that. One handed fifty yard targets. We have an ancient target shooter who still competes in IDPA. His times are awful since he's over eighty years old but he continually beats everyone on accuracy.
This guy again. The reason we teach standardized stances and grips, is to isolate elements, for TRAINING. Teaching someone to just do 'whatever works for you' is a great way to keep them coming back for $500+ 'advanced' sessions, but your training program is best validated by your clients' ability to self improve and propagate your program, without you. Our clients know just about everything there is to know about shooting, after two days; the rest is self-improvement through regular training. We teach people how to train, not how to get an end of session result.
