If I want to get into an artist or genre as well I usually check what the nerds think the best album is and I use that as a starting point - not always 100% reliable but it gives you a lead y'know, helps with big discographies. It's sometimes fun to peek at the reviews, by which I mean the melodramatic essays that detail how Blue by Eiffel 65 shaped some dude's youth and what society means to them as a result.
Hey RYM, Grandpa here. I have been trying to get into all sorts of classical/orchestral works, but finding an album/recording of my favorite composers can be quite difficult. Grandpa would like to be able to find the best Bach works just like he could with Dean Crosby. Grandpa would also like to be able to just click/tap a button to add it to a list instead of going into said list and looking up the album I want to add. Many good tidings, from Grandpa.
@@mystikgleam9541 RYM has considered your request and, after much deliberation, has decided to delete all classical music entries of any kind from the database. Thank you for your input :)
Here are my top 10 favorite albums of all time! 1. To Pimp a Butterfly by Kendrick Lamar 2. OK Computer by Radiohead 3. Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd 4. In the Court of the Crimson King by King Crimson 5. Kid A by Radiohead 6. Madvillainy by Madvillain 7. Loveless by My Bloody Valentine 8. In Rainbows by Radiohead 9. The Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd 10. good kid, m.A.A.d city by Kendrick Lamar Note: this is all my opinion edit: people are complaining that this is “unoriginal” and “just the top 10 albums on RateYourMusic” but they clearly can’t appreciate how deep these albums are and how difficult it is to enjoy them
@@Andrei4224 mm yes a fellow Nadja enjoyer, I'd say Radiance of Shadows is my #285 for 2007 brilliant album, I love the drone metal and the post-metal sections that kinda sound cold sombre and ethereal, truly one of the albums of 2007.
if this were in fantanos comment section it would be annoying and played out, but in this context its hilarious structure 5/5 word choice 5/5 funniness 5/5 overall 3.5/5
@@biggie-cheese2 yeah was gonna put TPAB in my comment but decided against it because Bob Dylan is more stereotypically "pretentious music fan". But youre welcome to replace Bob Dylan with TPAB or Pink Floyd in your head.
@@antiarezzo7630 i agree and i'd never shame someone for rating albums that are commonly agreed upon to be good highly, but it does get a little boring when people share their lists/topsters and it's the exact same set of albums as everyone else but in a different order. like, idk, i feel like if you're sharing a list, at least give people a reason to care about what you're sharing. there's little to no discussion left to be had about a topster with tpab, igor, blonde, in rainbows, and all the other predictable picks that are seen every time lol.
I'd say the best is OK Computer by the band Radiohead, it has this emotional and texturized quality to it that many people can relate to. More importantly, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding Radiohead albums. In a sense, one can say that those foundational artpieces were merely building blocks to what would become OK Computer. It features an embryonic and richly crisp sound that really gives the songs a big boost, and Thom Yorke's lyrics are filled with so much meaning about life, it's wonderfully psychedelic and cathartic all at once. There is this gut punch of goodness that the album induces on its listeners the first time that I can only describe as painful and agonizing. This album should be arrested for aggravated assault. I've never heard this album in my life, but it sounds really cool.
Most of them see a great album and immediately circlejerk and think it's funny when it's actually annoying as fuck, they also have this thing where they only like 1 or 2 albums from a genre and think they achieved the goal infinite variety taste (limp pumpo and bitch ass darius with ghettotech, coakira with gabber, dj sprinkles and against all logic with house, basic channel for techno etc)
The website itself is SO useful for finding specific kinds of music by searching tags and stuff which is great for when I can't find any new music to listen to that I actually want to listen to, but you can't take the scores too seriously for the most part since it's kind of an echo chamber, and the reviews themselves are some of the cringiest shit on the internet
rateyourmusic is pretty good for doing deep dives into different genres and cataloging stuff you like but there's no reason to subject yourself to interacting with any part of its user base.
But what other way is there in this day and age to discover new music other than by chance? There are AOTY, SputnikMusic and hit lists but the same can be said about them. What do you even mean by this?
don't stress, my friend! getting music recommendations doesn't make you less of a music fan :D it's okay to like popular things, even if "popular" just means popular with quirky music critics.
This is far too accurate. Unfortunately, I have a habit of checking RYM every time I'm about to listen to a new album. I still listen to it regardless, but it does affect my opinion. How does RU-vid even know I use RYM??
never doubt the almighty algorithm. rym users probably have similar youtube-using habits in topics adjacent to rym itself. the algo can latch on to that
Hilarious! RYM is a great tool if you love music, have eclectic tastes, but don’t necessarily have many avenues to discover new different music. Let’s be real: there is too much out there to know everything. There are many albums I love that have bad scores on rym, but most of the albums that have high ratings i end up liking somewhat.
this is so true. imo every high rated album on that site is highly rated for a good reason - maybe i don't always exactly agree with how highly rated each album is on the charts or whatever, anything in the 3.80+ range is pretty much always going to be worth listening to. but yeah, there's also stuff that's a bit lower that i enjoy a lot as well, and that's fine. it's bound to happen on any site like that.
@@dankmemewannabe7692 i see it that all art is based on opinion, it’s just that with highly rated rym albums, there’s a bigger consensus about opinion. So just because i or someone else has an outlying opinion, it just means it resonated for them more than most. I don’t believe in an objectively “good” or “bad” album, or any piece of art - just art that resonates with people in different ways. Even the process of putting a single rating on a piece of art, while it can be useful to create measurements of comparison within one’s own experience, can oversimplify all the different ways a piece of art can be affecting. As an example, the “so bad it’s good” signifier is usually just an indication of a much more complex web of resonance, usually including bewilderment, hilarity, nostalgia and a bunch of other conflicting feelings. In short - each experience is objectively subjective, in that everyone’s feelings are actually *truly* felt, and so the fun part is not in *defending* one’s opinion against others, but in understanding others more by figuring out why things resonate with people and not others. Competition is fun, to be sure, but in the end for me, it’s about the one thing we deserve the most of each other - a deeper and more intimate and heartfelt understanding.
@@dankmemewannabe7692 anyone can review anything as in even a deaf person or someone who feels physically ill at the sound of a guitar could go and review music and then say it wasn't anything or just painful to them and it'd be there as a real rating for others to read extreme examples, but that's what happens on principle, there's nothing to defend
uhhhh have you heard of a little indie band called Pink Floyd, its kind of a Progressive Rock, Art Rock, Psychedelic Rock, Psychedelic Pop, Space Rock, Rock Opera kinda thing, they're pretty underground though you probably havent heard of them
RYM has become so much more enjoyable for me when I just completely ignore the charts all together and just use it to find more recordings of pieces I like from my favorite classical composers and keep track of which ones are my favorite
yeah the yearly/all time charts suck, but the make your own chart feature has become my favorite way of finding music on there, it's just way more versatile than using the god awful list search, i've found a bunch of interesting genre combos that way.
@@ZeroWaveZ oooo, 125, rue Montmartre! and yeah i adore the make your own chart feature, i wish it was a bit more classical friendly (can't sort by date of compositions rather than their recording) but it's so useful for finding new music! especially if you want to explore an unorthodox genre + descriptor combo, like Death Metal + Sad (gets you Artificial Brain) or Minimalism + LGBT (gives you Julius Eastman)
My friends who are also big into music are on RYM all the time. They’re always specifying the genre of albums that I’m enjoying and say things like “it’s actually inspired by this other album that came out in the 80s” or something and all I have to say is “cool”. They do show me a lot of good music though.
its so sad because sometimes conversations revolving around genres/influences can be fun and interesting, but when you can tell that the person ur talking to is literally just repeating stuff they saw on rym its hard not to get second hand embarrassment.
This reminds me a lot of my best friend in school. I was huge into music and I'd never known him to listen to a song in his life. I asked him if he even knew who Led Zeppelin were and he sent me a copied and pasted paragraph from Wikipedia about the Rolling Stones' album "Sticky Fingers". What's even funnier is that I believed every word and commended him on his knowledge of Led Zeppelin.
The only people worse than this are the “all the good music was made before the year 2000” mfs. You know, the ones who’ve never heard a single modern song aside from whats on hits 1, and decided that all modern music is bad.
damn im awful at articulating myself. i bet i sound exactly like this 😔 no wonder my friends always wanna change the topic when its my turn to talk about music lol
he looks like the type of guy to stomp his feet and have steam erupt from his ears if you say "The Dark Side of the Moon is my favorite Pink Floyd album."
ok but theres literally nothing better than sometimes i might be introvert in 2021 its the best album release and all i do is shit on ratemymusic and pitchfork like ITS GENUINELY LIFE CHANGING and easy to comprehend just STREAM LITTLE SIMZ SHES SO UNDERRATED
The people on that website literally hate everything. Whenever I look up my favorite album, it has terrible reviews with opinions I have never heard about said album before when talking to people in real life. I do not go there anymore.
Best artist has gotta be Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe
I hate this because it's me but also because I have to use music sites to remind me of what came out in a given year cause my memory is absolute shite lol
exactly mannn i just use it to find new music. If i was to listen to a li st of the most popular albums or some shit i wouldnt like a lot of it. I feel that rym gives me a good pool of music to take recommendations from. I disagree with a lot of ratings and think theres some shit thats way overhated on there, or I just like it a lot more, for example kali uchis isolation is one of my fav albums, same with the strokes new abnormal, a lot of pearl jam's music, cage the elephant, muse, mgmt, Ride, tame impala. All stuff that has kinda mediocre ratings on RYM. But then my fav artists are radiohead, bowie, pink floyd, kendrick lamar, etc which makes me look like the dude in this video lmao
@@AlanGonzalez-ev6ur I mean all that msuic is really good which is why it has ascended so high on many charts. What’s lame is when you don’t branch out from the charts at all
@@AlanGonzalez-ev6ur I think rym and any other similiar site can be a helpful way to find new music and a good critique can also teach you new ways to experience music which is great. I think the problem arises when it's MORE important to appear to enjoy good quality music than actually enjoy it. But if you have the right friends, then the discussion about music is more fruitful instead just saying an album name after another lol.
same lmao, also tbh i tend to jump on the latest albums later than others, for example i'm listening to a bunch of albums that came out last year just now
@@maryfreegirl2029 I feel that, I only got into Home Is Where in like November of 2022 and was kicking myself for missing out on it when it first dropped.
I use RYM bc I need to see what the music nerds are listening to in order to balance out what I hear from the mainstream media. I found Fishmans and Black Country New Road from there and they were the highlight of my 2022 lol
HAHAHA same, me and my black bull Tyrone love Merzbow, Boredoms, Gerogerigegege, Coil, Throbbing Gristle, Whitehouse, Nurse with Wound, Einstürzende Neubauten, Brainbombs, Egor Letov, Death in June, Current 93, La Monte Young, Moondog, Lou Harrison, Henry Cowell, Luigi Russolo, Popol Vuh, Fishmans, Jean Jacques Perrey, Les Rallizes Dénudés, Rainbow Caroliner, Taj Mahal Travellers, Fushitsusha, Peter Brötzmann, John Cage, Scott Walker, Unwound, Dead, Frank Zappa, Morton Feldman, Captain Beefheart, Pharoah Sanders, Albert Ayler, Ornette Coleman, Alice Coltrane, Arnold Schoenberg, Pierre Boulez, György Ligeti, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Nang Nang, Thinking Fellers Union Local 282, Nara Leão, Basic Channel, Raymond Scott, Delia Derbyshire, Daphne Oram, Noah Howard, Terry Riley, Peter Sotos, Lula Côrtes e Zé Ramalho, Boyd Rice, Mahmoud Ahmed, Henry Flynt, Kazumoto Endo, David Tudor, Aporea, Half Japanese, Mega Banton, Secret Chiefs 3, Keiji Haino, Ramleh, Otomo Yoshihide, John Zorn, Joe Meek, Robbie Basho, Phil Spector, Faxed Head, Harry Partch, Wesley Willis, Fred Frith, The Residents, Sun Ra, Sun City Girls, Hans Krüsi, Royal Trux, Jandek, Yat-Kha, Loren Mazzacane Connors, Pärson Sound, The Dead C, Comus, Cromagnon, Eliane Radigue, Arthur Doyle, Shizuka, The Red Krayola, Henry Cow, Magma, Opus Avantra, Pan.Thy.Monium., Murmuüre, Ksiezyc, Gong, Cukor Bila Smert', cLOUDDEAD, Muslimgauze and Kaoru Abe
This was me back in the early 2010s. I used to get all my opinions on video games from /v/. I would tout how much better the original Fallout games were compared to the Bethesda Fallout games, having played neither.
rate your music is a pretty cool place, but a lot of people there just repeat what other people say instead of enjoying the music they like, if you go to the comment section of any album with a rating lower than 3.50 you will see what i mean
2:10 that’s the easiest way to tell if someone’s taste is artificial. Obviously most people love multiple genres but people with a natural opinion will have a common base genre they listen to
I haven’t had too many experiences with bad modding, but I voted for a dream pop secondary on Planet Caravan from Black Sabbath’s debut not too long ago and it immediately got banned without question. Agree with me or not, I don’t think it should be banned that quickly or even full stop actually. Other people should have had the chance to upvote/downvote it. You know, how people usually agree on what genre something is on Rate Your Music? It seems a bit silly to be able to ban genres anyway. Maybe if it was something stupid like noisecore, I’d understand.
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved. In a sense, the Beatles are emblematic of the status of rock criticism as a whole: too much attention paid to commercial phenomena (be it grunge or U2) and too little to the merits of real musicians. If somebody composes the most divine music but no major label picks him up and sells him around the world, a lot of rock critics will ignore him. If a major label picks up a musician who is as stereotyped as can be but launches her or him worldwide, your average critic will waste rivers of ink on her or him. This is the sad status of rock criticism: rock critics are basically publicists working for major labels, distributors and record stores. They simply highlight what product the music business wants to make money from. Hopefully, one not-too-distant day, there will be a clear demarcation between a great musician like Tim Buckley, who never sold much, and commercial products like the Beatles. At such a time, rock critics will study their rock history and understand which artists accomplished which musical feat, and which simply exploited it commercially. Beatles' "Aryan" music removed any trace of black music from rock and roll. It replaced syncopated African rhythm with linear Western melody, and lusty negro attitudes with cute white-kid smiles. Contemporary musicians never spoke highly of the Beatles, and for good reason. They could never figure out why the Beatles' songs should be regarded more highly than their own. They knew that the Beatles were simply lucky to become a folk phenomenon (thanks to "Beatlemania", which had nothing to do with their musical merits). That phenomenon kept alive interest in their (mediocre) musical endeavours to this day. Nothing else grants the Beatles more attention than, say, the Kinks or the Rolling Stones. There was nothing intrinsically better in the Beatles' music. Ray Davies of the Kinks was certainly a far better songwriter than Lennon & McCartney. The Stones were certainly much more skilled musicians than the 'Fab Four'. And Pete Townshend was a far more accomplished composer, capable of entire operas such as "Tommy" and "Quadrophenia"; not to mention the far greater British musicians who followed them in subsequent decades or the US musicians themselves who initially spearheaded what the Beatles merely later repackaged to the masses. The Beatles sold a lot of records not because they were the greatest musicians but simply because their music was easy to sell to the masses: it had no difficult content, it had no technical innovations, it had no creative depth. They wrote a bunch of catchy 3-minute ditties and they were photogenic. If somebody had not invented "Beatlemania" in 1963, you would not have wasted five minutes of your time reading these pages about such a trivial band.
Lennon/McCartney were a genius songwriting duo. Among their fans are musical luminaries such as Leonard Bernstein, Brian Wilson, Bob Dylan, Paul Simon, Elliott Smith, Andy Partridge, Sting, Elvis Costello, the guys and gals from Lake Street Dive and even jazzer like Brad Mehldau, Pat Metheny, Gary Burton, John McLaughlin. I'd suggest you pick up a guitar and try to write a song yourself, maybe you'll gain an appreciation for their craft.
BTW songs written by The Beatles have been covered by Fiona Apple, Jon Batiste, Jeff Beck, George Benson, Ray Charles, Jacob Collier, Aretha Franklin, Grant Green, Fred Hersch, Allan Holdsworth, Shirley Horn, Brad Mehldau, Pat Metheny, Wes Montgomery, Lee Morgan, Wilson Pickett, Regina Spektor, Andy Timmons, Stevie Wonder ... you have to agree that's an impressive list, isn't it?
Also what about Miles, he actually sold millions of records and famously enjoyed driving Ferraris and Lamborghinis, is he not worthy to be mentioned alongside Duke and Trane (who weren't obscure and starving either)? And you do know the Stones, Who and Kinks all sold tons of records as well to the masses, whose taste you seem to question, and became multimillionaires themselves.
Not very true. They listen to everything that's good. Music nerds don't mind listening to mainstream when it's actually good music like Carly Rae jepson even though it's pure pop
"To Pimp A Butterfly enjoyers aren't even intelligent, they are just hopping on the wagon. They don't know i can name 10,000 album per minute that is absolutely sublime in comparison to this bull 😏" (have never heared one sound from the album)
