GW Removed One of their BEST Combat Patrols and What's This New Mini?? 

If you cant afford it, yes.

Jokes on you, I can't even afford the combat patrol

First time?

​@grapetonenatches186 is this a joke or did you think that was genuinely a Gotcha

I really hope gw suits all over it, just like admechs patrol. Might as well make it a race to the bottom.

THIS. I was planning on getting a couple GSC patrols to start the army, but was going to have to go outside my budget because of the impending doom of knowing the box was changing. So now unless I can get the boxes from 3rd party, I just won’t even be starting the army unless they miraculously give us a comparable box.

@@tellumyort have you looked at the Troll Trader in the UK? If you are in the US, shipping may be as low as $11. Spending around $100 is where you start saving some money. You may need to strip some paint off a few models, but that place has helped me stay in the hobby when things got really expensive.

Its worked before, and it lined their pockets even better! They only care for their shareholders, customers are an entitled thing they believe they have nowadays... and you're their bitches not real customers.

@@tellumyort Really glad I picked one up at Christmas time just for my kitbashing projects.

'We want to get new players into the hobby," says the company that keeps making its products worse, removing free rules, and otherwise increasing the barrier to entry. It's so fascinating to me that they keep shooting themselves in the foot with the most basic decisions. One head is clearly not talking to the other, or just doesn't care.

"We can't have this much value, it'll make the other kits look bad" "So why not just... make the other kits better?" "Because money"

Don't be silly, The middle finger will be printed on cheap paper using a printer from the 90s that barely prints. Anything more than that might actually start to resemble a deal.

Bold of you to assume that it wont get the thousand sons tzaangor treatment and just be a magus and 20 neophytes

all for $150

Yes but inflation would also effect the price of that printer and the resin etc

@@Swampsong117 GW doesn't raise prices because of inflation.

@@Swampsong117 as printers become easier to produce and more readily accessible the price will drop. 5-7ish years ago you had to spend $1000 to get a printer good enough to print minis now you can get them for around the 300-400 dollar range. Not to mention many public spaces are also making 3d printers available. Every state library where I live has a 3d printer you pay for the resin and 10¢ a printed file for upkeep costs to the library.

@@PhosPhryne Of they do. Inflation affects everything, the difference is most companies don’t announce it.

@@Swampsong117 No, no they don't. They claim it's inflation. But even when inflation is almost nonexistent they raise prices on par with the worst of inflation in recent years, they do that every single year - all while every other miniature company on the planets' prices stay the same. For example, since roughly 4-th edition 40k, he prices of started boxes has gone up by... 200%, do you think that there ha been 200% percent inflation since that time?

I...actually like all those things.

@@Luciusthestorms I mean fair but thats not nearly enough for it to be worth it

You think you'll get a VEHICLE??? don't forget the price increase!

​@@R-YR29 tau got a vehicle

​@@kazoie1that would still be a pretty big discount. I feel like most people here can't count

This is a great idea.

Poorhammer has done this if you wanna check that out.

@@Kottery I'll definitely look into it

Check out Empire of Wargames as well. He has had some good Combat Patrol idea videos

@@TheSilentGreek I watch his channel as well. He makes very informative videos as well.

I mean: they would have to keep the current contents or add stuff to IMPROVE the savings, which is just not going to happen. I think in general people tend to ignore that both GSC and SoB were the EXCEPTION with their CP offerings, absolutely not the rule.

@@darnokx9277 Youre right, but GSC are also ridiculous to collect without the CP. I assume there was a reason the GSC CP was so good, probably because not many people were actually buying a £1500 army xD

@@aeow8859 The best bet for affordable GSC is likely going to be the £140 box assuming they get one. Which will have about 12 in print globally so there's gonna be a very small number of people who can appreciate those savings. Artificial rarity and FOMO exploitation, lets gooo (ain't no way such a massive company that constantly runs out of stock is always managing to accidentally understock limited print products as much as they do).

@@aeow8859 Oh for sure! You could have gone a LOT worse than buying three or four Combat Patrols and calling it at that. Or two and just a few more units individually - though you would feel the heat with those. My current GSC army consists of: "Deathwatch Overkill", the GSC Boarding Patrol and the current Combat Patrol. That's somewhere above 1500 points IIRC, did not cost me an arm and a leg and has a cool variety of stuff. I am looking forward to convert some Brood Brothers. I would never have gotten this army without getting those boxes at some form of discount (partly 'bay, partly FLGS). Buying all of that at MSRP and as individual unit boxes/blisters though? No way!

This is the way. I got a few normal SOB battle sister boxes. Pricy but versatile and with some snippers you can easily customize the monopose girls. Especially that sister superior.

Multiple Combat Patrols were still worth it, you just have to get the wargear from regular boxes.

@@OniGanon Hence I got two of the original boxes and the combat patrol. I hope the new one isn't monopose and still includes a Rhino.

​@@NianfurI feel the same, but it'll be a shame to see the monopose stuff to disappear completely. Some of those poses are pretty good. I bet our new kit will just be last year's boarding patrol + maybe a rhino.

You can probably still find one in local game stores or online.

Or you know, wait for the next one. Or bought it when it was available, for several years. And third party. Never buy from gw directly.

@@OniGanon yeah my local has one and 3 different custodes multiboxes just sitting

A lot of those listed on there and eBay are other people's FLGS (at least in the US)

I just picked mine up from Amazon. I've been sitting on it for a while, but it's probably the best GSC deal we're likely to get

I picked up 3 over the last few months and am slowly building them out now

What’s FLGS

@@SanguineYoru friendly local game store

I literally bought like 5 or 6 combat patrol boxes because I knew at some point it was going to get the axe. The box was just too good.

@@jerseyse410 Good on you for staying ahead of the guillotine. I'm super tempted to see if I can snag 2 more boxes online to get a nice foundation for my army. There's no way we're getting anything better than this box.

Well yeah, why do you think element games sells the new combat patrol for csm 5 pound cheaper than the old ones.. 😂

They're a fucking horrible company in terms of being respectful of their customers.

@@daweimer71 The unfortunate truth is that as long as 40k makes them money, they're not going to care about respecting customers.

@@BoisegangGaming True. It’s sad, because not all companies are like that.

@daweimer71 Eventually, any sufficiently large company will become focused entirely on the generation of capital. The purpose of a company is not to create products that work, or are good, but for them to sell so they can get profit-- being good or even functional is just a happy side effect. The main problem with this is a lack of leadership culture-- the "all take and no give". Leadership of companies is not selected for by those who are passionate about what the company does, but for who can appease shareholders the most, and who can look out for their own personal incentives the most. If there's an incentive to give oneself a $500,000 bonus or 1,000 employees a $500 bonus, guess what they're going to do? 90% of a company's success comes from the people who produce the labor - i.e. the ones in the trenches. Without sculptors, designers, manufacturers, etc., these C-suite executives would be executives of nothing. I'm sure there's some studies about how or why this phenomena happens, but it often reminds me of how people will make fun of fast food workers despite wanting to get fast food; these people are essential to the end goal but are treated as disposable and interchangeable.

People seem to think 3d printing is big, and it really isn't. It makes a miniscule percentage

Not really for sisters or GSC, their models are pretty spindly and the quality of the GW plastic for them is pretty fantastic (they're basically all new models from recent range updates). For vehicles and bits, sure, but I'd hate to have to deal with resin for like 60 sisters or a billion neophytes.

@@chrisj9628 idk what you mean but there is an actual wide range of sister models for 3d printers and there are a bunch of awesome ones underneath them. also a lot which seem like the original, you might just have to search longer. if you start to deal with resin you wont stop at 60 sisters and a billion neophytes. you will go on and print everything. im drowning in gray models currently. since i printed 6000 points of necrons, about 4000 points of space marines and a bunch of tau models. probably ill start with votann next. maybe ill just sell my admech and print a bunch of the stationforge models. and dont even get me started on tyranids. + dealing with resin really is no big deal. physic trash has to be hardened so you can just throw it in the normal trash, wear gloves and take the water/ipa to some chemical deposit. - open windows while printing. no problem at all.

Considering the fierce competition between 3d printer brands as well. They are falling each other to make better printers at cheaper prices. Yeah it's actually going great! Everybody wins, well... except GW, but GW has been trying hard to lose for awhile so I guess they are happy? (:

@@jacket2848 actually makes up a pretty decent percentage nowadays, ESPECIALLY compared to where it was 5 years ago. It’s like when you hear people say ‘well, this technology (for example, AI) isn’t even that widespread yet, and it’s not even that good’. That technology was learning to crawl for ten years- now it’s figured it out, and it immediately skipped walking and started sprinting. 3D printing, and the range and skill of community designers, has developed scarily quickly in only a decade. I don’t think GW’s ‘dead today!!1!1’…. But give them 15 years of these business practices, while printers become more and more convenient and skill-less to use, and they’re in a sinking ship through no one’s fault but their own.

Nah, GW will throw in a Magus, 5 hybrid Metamorphs, 10 Neophytes and an ATV and call it a day. Super easy, barely an inconvenience

Delaque, they already have simular looking beasties.

I too think it looks very much like that, but what army would you add them to? I have no idea at all, because they were always treated as neutral, evil entities.

hypothetically any army i think, they brain control non psykers, and turn psykers into living gateways

Well there's a lot of great proxy versions of all those.

@guerrillavanilla that's a bad excuse to keep models around in a game where third party miniatures aren't allowed in competition.

@@dudemcfurgusson7179 that's not exclusively true.

Removing units entirely is never a good thing, and the Ecclesiarchy side of the army is an important part of them. Squad sizes should be able to be chose on a per model basis anyway.

No. Just no.

I havent seen a single one of those magazines anywhere

I don't think they really come out until August or so.

Yes I was thinking just this when they started changing up the Combat patrols. The announcement/limited run back in January was supposedly them gauging interest. Be interesting to see if anything is changed for the main release in August (?). They did proudly show off quite detailed images of what you'll get.

apparently homer simpson put together that kit 😆

And get the models you want without any SOLD OUT problems. Probably better sculpts!

🥇

10th Edition Combat Patrol history would suggest that having an HQ alongside a unit it can actually join is unlikely.

@@OniGanon Adepta Sororitas list does have that problem, that's true. Still. We'll see,

I mean, I really like all the models you mentioned (specially the Sacresants), but it is true that the removal of transports in all boxes is quite harsh, particularly for an army with such fragile infantry.

5 sister repentia and 13 of those neo nova girls and two of those shield girls lol

welcome to thousand sons

​@@ankatavaska tau actually added a transport

Lmao those are all pretty decent models. I can see them swapping the rets out with zeph/seph for the flying canoness. All told that's 220 bucks worth of minis for 160.

Indeed, I would add the Deathwatch CP to that list as well.

Your not wrong, DG and 1Ksons are CP's you'd never want more than one of.. if at all. (1ksons player)

We all know the new ksons box is going to be all tzaangors and no marines at all. Death Guard isn't going to get a new box unless they drop a regular squad box to 5, and then they'll get 2 of those in the box. As for Deathwatch, I think they're on the way out as a whole army.

@@vxicepickxv At this point, I feel like DG will be lucky to even get a codex this edition... if/when they do, you can likely bet they're going to be at most just 1 new HQ model. Wouldn't be surprised if they get a "new" CP that's 5 Blightlords + 20 Poxwalkers + new HQ + 1-2 Virion supports... 100% useless! 1kSons desperately *NEED* a big wave release. 1 new model in 7 years is a fething insult. But right now it feels like odds are there's nothing new for 1kSons this edition, and their "new" CP will be 20 Tzaan's, a Tzaan Shaman and a Mutilith Beast. Deathwatch would be awesome to see them get rolled into the upcoming Agents codex, then release 2-3 new upscaled kits that can cover a 'traditional' DW unit, a melee specialist & a support specialist Kill Teams. All I can say is, 11th edition seriously *deserves* to be the edition of Grey Knights, Dark Eldar & Chaos, Chaos, Chaos! (...give us big waves with minimum 3-4+ kits for DG, 1kSons, WE's, Daemons, Knights and bring in Lost and the Damned/Dark Mech, plus those long-rumored new Bikers for CSM's & Legion upgrade kits)

Not to be a GW apologist, but the new Custodes combat patrol is easily on par with the prior one. And can actually be bought more than once - which the old one couldnt. So there is hope!