This new build is the most fun I’ve had on thief in a long time! Make sure to watch this video all the way through the outnumbered fight commentary as I break down everything! Drop a like to show some support and subscribe to the channel with notifications turned on!
Already on it and man your mechanics are as smooth as ever. You should try out full trap specter with relic of cerus, amazing aoe cc condi and power damage. I run it in pvp currently and it's pretty fun for point capping and defense
This is probably a very dumb question as I have only recently returned to GW2 but why exactly does pistol 5 + dagger 2 give you stealth? It also happens on my thief when I use dagger/pistol but I can't seem to understand why it does that as the spell description doesn't say it. Either way great video and hopefully one day I'll be as flashy as you when pvping with Daredevil!
@@madhattigan1174 That one I understand as the tooltip says it, but pistol 5 and dagger 2 used in combination gives stealth too. It doesn't say it does that in the tooltip
I was the soulbeast in the last two clips with my mate. We both hadn't seen that much burst before when it comes to thief so we googled what build it was, and sure enough I find us getting shit stomped in this vid lmao. Was running celestial so that's why I was so tanky, was a fresh level 80. Good fights man.
Just leveled my Daredevil and have the new expac. Im going full on with this into WvW. Im not great but I want to try something fun and this looks like it. Thanks Noody!
played for like a year when guild wars 2 came out, guild wars (1) is till this day my favourite game! now im back to gw2 and started a thief. looking forward to give this build a shot :D nice video!
I've playing this build over the last couple of days and it's a great time in the WvW. Resource management has been a bit tricky with the Twilight bursting but it's a body dropper for sure!
Hey Noody, I have been playing this build for quite a while and wanted to ask if you got any changes for the year 2024. I also tried pairing rifle with scepter and dagger, although the set then mainly had projectiles and was therefore quite weak against builds that had a lot of projectile blocks.
bro that was a closed gate, finally against condi builds like celestial harbingers it makes the difference. Being able to breath while outgoing extrem burst at distance. The delay effect with shadow steps and rolls is just perfect :)
I try this out lastnight. Just messing around since i have a legendary secpter and want to just use it. Played thief during POF and i would say this setup like you said its like playing good old DP with a range nuke. Compare to Deadeye. I feel this is much easier to burst and also move in and out of combat easily. Great build. Simple to learn. Hughly recommended for any new or older player returing tonthe game. I also use rune of the deadeye. Cheaper but very similar as schelor.
nice vid!! can you specify exactly what combo of gear you use? i know you said some but you didn't show everything you're rocking with is there any stat range we should meet when mix and matching?
In WvW balance you get 37% crit rate from the critical strikes traitline (fury included) and you get around 8.5% crit rate from signet of agility. So if you want to min-max youd want to get to 54.5% crit rate from your gear alone. Though many encounters wont be the perfect scenario so it wouldnt hurt to overcap a bit.
W Our guild from New World is taking a break from the game and we playin some gw2. Really like thief and appreciate your guide! Hope deadeye gets some love because it feels a bit underwhelming compared to daredevil :x New sub
I have hands to play weaver s/d. but I have never had the hands to play thief well. and this scepter build looks like hope to me. lol good video and gameplay.
You just got yourself a sub my friend. I just have one question will this build work still with S/D instead of D/P? Just asking since im not really good at D/P but i can learn. Great vid man.
Do you happen to have any guides for understanding thief in combat as a player? Most of the videos I see are more about game modes or show cases. And not advice on how a thief operates to be a successful fighter
To be honest, it's pretty terrible. There are very few actual guides for Thief and the ones that exist don't really talk about gameplay. Especially if you don't count the outdated ones from a few years ago where we had quite a bit more people doing Thief content. All you can really do nowadays is look for the handful of really good guides by Moody and others that are hidden somewhere between the rest, and also watch good players stream their WvW and PvP endeavors. You will probably find their build to start off with and the have to analyze how they're playing and what their strategies are by yourself. If you're lucky, they're going to talk about it from time to time, but that's more luck based than anything else as finding twenty minutes of gameplay talk over like 5 four hour streams is pretty unlikely. So yeah, that's mostly it. You can look through the Metabattle guides for Thief as some of them may have short sections about gameplay appended, but overall it's mostly up to ourselves to figure it out. I honestly don't get why there aren't more content creators filling this gap because I think it's really obvious. The situation as it is today makes it incredibly hard for new people to pick up the class and not get frustrated really quickly which in turn contributes to the problem of shrinking populations across PvP game modes. And that hurts everyone, even those who could share their knowledge.
Been a theif main for years. But cant play like this maan good stuff! I also wish they rework short bow maybe increase arrow speed and number of bounces so i can sit inside zerg and shooot people lol
Hey @Noody could you tell your exact gear for this build please ? I'm struggling to get the same exact stats as showed, tried many combinations but without succes. Thank you :)
Man I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I am absolute garbage at this build. The animation lock on pistol/whip is too problematic - I almost never get it to land. Even when I get a stun in, the opponent breaks out instantly and I find myself swinging the sword in place. I'm very much a beginner to pvp/wvw but I can barely get a single kill with this. GW2 pvp barrier to entry is really high it seems like.
He about faced, a keybind you can set in your settings that turns your character around 180 without moving your camera. Very useful to master using it.
@@juicygeorgegaming5889run berserker amulet and vampirism runes or else you will have a tiny health pool. As for sigils go for compounding and exploitation
Lovely, love my 2,2,2,2 rifle deadeye build too much to swap to this, even though this is broken ^^ this will be kinda busted for my build too. Instead of working up 5% from thief relic, u get insta 10% with fireworks. @@Noody
No. As in: if you're really good, everything works in almost every situation. But technically this build is made for single target burst damage and not for drawn out group encounters. You're useless once you run out of initiative.
can You Teach me how to play i try to and did my best but still cant understand any like why ppl beat me that easy comparing to ppl i am just dying -_-:
Noody, I tried thief in pvp but my worst problem are as follow; 1) somehow I keep missing backstab over and over, like unlike other melee you must face them exactly otherwise you atk the air. I use steal combo but I still miss might have to do with high ping IDK (SEA my ping normally 290 avg) 2) Skill spamming, unlike other class thief weapon skill has no cd so whhen i accidentally double tab out of habit, thief spam the skill which result in waste of int, like spam 2 pistol 5 which eat a lot of int. Any tip to help with these 2?
@@davoinshowerhandle3302 I would but that mean I lost stealth on demand. Scepter don't have anything that can give stealth, so I can only stealth with utility or changing weapon, then I lock out from using scepter for 10 sec
You are not the only one, i also have this issue with 250 ping. I know from an older vid that Noody uses ExitLag but when i tried it, it made things worse. Things that i can't reliably connect are backstab, Flanking and Larcenous Strikes and often Cloak and Dagger if i don't use it with Steal. 1 reliable way to connect Backstab with D/P is to use Shadow Shot first and before the bullet reaches target, hit backstab.
I hate to sound cliché but practice makes perfect. With some classes you have to put extra time in practicing, dueling in the duel arenas and in wvw or in your guild hall and just keep at it. It takes some many months to get the hang of it. Especially if you come with bad habits like double tapping or you have a really high ping or ping that isn't stable. A no stable internet connection is a thief's worst enemy.
I try similar setup with all trailblazer gear. It works but i feel like just put big dmg in fight in short time instead of let the enermy recover is slightly easier. Alot of classes has quick condi clense in wvw. And you would have to really manage your fights and positing much better if it drag on for too long.
Why...? There are so many incredibly easy to play Thief builds, it's really not that hard to learn a second one for open world stuff, especially if you're only doing casual things. This build is very specialized for one purpose
it’s not as cheese as some celestial builds, some stuff out there is so aids nothing can kill it, but they still do enough damage to kill almost anything over time. This build is cheese, but if you aren’t totally caught off guard you can dodge it’s burst and the thief themselves can be killed because at the end of the day, it’s a non shadow arts build. And also maybe I missed something from a patch, but this isn’t unblockable. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong though, I don’t keep up with most of the class changes anymore.
