GWENT | PLAY SYMBIOSIS BEFORE THE NEXT BALANCE PATCH

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Patch 11.6 gave new life to weather related cards by changing some abilities and adding nature tags to them. We knew this would have an impact on Scoia'tael Symbiosis, but this is just something else. I spent the last few days looking for the most consistent way to maximize the potential of a new broken combo in the game in order to demonstrate how delicate an archetype can be when you introduce new inexpensive payoff cards while having the means to duplicate them. In this video I talk about card selection, reasoning and strategy before playing 5 games with commentary for reference.
Considerations: Pellar, Maxii van Dekkar, Bountiful Harvest(s), Saer Qu'an, Ocvist
Decks that should beat this: ST Precision Strike Control, NR Mobilization Reavers, SK Patricidal Fury Warriors (on red coin)
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Intro/Deck Explanation: 0:00
Game 1: Monsters Force of Nature 7:18
Game 2: Skellige Patricidal Fury 19:11
Game 3: Skellige Ursine Ritual 29:26
Game 4: Monsters Force of Nature 40:26
Game 5: Monsters Blood Scent 51:47
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13 июл 2024

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@Qcento Год назад

Do you think Spring Equinox is balanced?

@dr.embersfield1551 Год назад

No, of course! A 5p card should NOT have such a big point output, especially when without a board condition. Bear Witcher Mentor is also a 5p card that could have 12 points, but it requires a board, and thus is balanced.

@Neophyx_21 Год назад

Honestly, after being such a massive meme for so many years, it deserves to be op for a little while lol

@Qcento Год назад

@Ivan S 😂

@krajekdev Год назад

Initially i thought so, but then i actually beat it, even with dwarves 😂. Not so sure after all. Xavier would also counter this hard.

@Chronically_ChiII Год назад

Nah, It's more meme'y than I thought. And since there are so many tall punishes and resets, this kind of deck can't really be all that oppressive. I honestly just think of it as a boring card more than anything.

@libero9613 Год назад

I love how, even when you play a “meta” deck, you add some variety to it so your deck feels different to play then the exact same deck seen in like ten videos.

@Qcento Год назад

People are SLEEPING on Francesca. I love challenging popular opinions and doing things my way! 😎

@RickReasonnz Год назад

@@Qcento Just seems terrifying to play because of the removal bait she is. I just know that if I play her, she's gonna get countered, knowing my luck...

@Qcento Год назад

@@RickReasonnz If we tutor her she gets boosted, also Saskia for a special to boost her is good. She would demand Heatwave or something to that effect. The payoff exceeds the risk imo.

@barryliu3473 Год назад

No. Period.

@xWhiplasher Год назад

Scoia'tael deck with Francesca and Gord? Tasty, I won't say "no".

@leech8561 Год назад

hell no im not abusing this shit lol

@leeeelou Год назад

Hey bro, nice deck 😀

@ivanskrljac894 Год назад

Great video as usual! I kinda wish they didnt overbuff Natures gift tho, its one of my favorite leaders and now its abusive

@ivanangeli Год назад

I actually loved purifying the whole row :) I could get to immunity cards like that, and also fight multiple locks

@potje8002 Год назад

Machine gun NR was such a fun meme. Also ran it in vypper decks. Now idarran does not work as well.

@donboris345 Год назад

The Deck reminds me of OG Gwent Ng Alchemy. Very strong value on single cards without restriction in deckbuilding

@fofrklacek9982 Год назад

I love this game.

@kdhbarbar Год назад

Should make all of the dupe cards spawn doomed copies maybe. Could raise to 6 or 7 (like Bone Tali) and/or make it boost by nature cards not counting itself.

@vardansimonyan966 Год назад

I tried this deck (for the first time in my life) and got some ez wins. Finally someone else, except for NG has some brocken stuff :D

@travisnachtrab1933 Год назад

I was thinking about balancing Spring Equinox the other day, and I think rather than a prov increase it should be treated more like Stefan Skellan. I think shooting for 8 for 5 is on par with most higher value 5 provision cards, so I would balance it one of two ways: base boost of 2, gain one additional boost for every 2 nature cards in your starting deck, or base boost of 4, gain one boost for every 3 nature cards in your starting deck. Only real difference is how much do you want it to brick for NG opponents I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

@steelersfan0739 Год назад

I do think morrudd is better in relicts and i dont mind the change q great video sir as usual plus i think they should change the dragon Saskia to strengthen as well rather then boost as you have to do more by killing stuff to boost it just saying.

@dogger7051 11 месяцев назад

Mr Q how has the list changed since the nerf to spring equinox

@kakuzu4022 Год назад

Quite a good deck. I've been looking on the website and youtube ever since I started playing again this game and there's always some new decks and strategies. Went for the Nature/Elves from the start and now I'm happy I've done it. I love playing with the harmony and symbiosis ( with Mysteries of Loc, Sakia, Dana Meadbh, Eithne, Lake Guardian, Call Of the Forest, Water of Brokilon as the main cards.). Before coming back I used to play movement decks (Gezars, Saskia, Blathanna, Dryad Mathron, Idarran and Whisperer of Doll) , It is very good, but lately the ppl play a lot of locks and specials so I just stopped using it..

@bennewman7931 Год назад

I think it would be balanced if it was based on the number of unique nature cards. They've used that distinction before with flaminica and it worked really well I thought

@er4din903 Год назад

Ceiling is around 10 points i think. I think that number of bronze nature cards excluding self works better, but your idea would lead To more interesting deck building

@aka.Mokasa Год назад

It's a good day when Qcento uploads! Do you think there's anyway to counter this deck? I've been seeing it in at least 60 percent of my matches and it's so tiring to go against!!!

@Qcento Год назад

Many of the versions going around don't feel optimized to me, so there's that... Besides that though here are some tips. - Remove Elven Seer by any means before they can use Spring Equinox - Have graveyard punish in your deck i.e Squirrel or Xavier - Have 1-2 tall punish options in your deck Regardless of which variant the opp plays, this deck has a lot of potential for bricks so take advantage of their poor draws when you can.

@aka.Mokasa Год назад

@@Qcento thank you!!

@jyteks522 Год назад

Greedy decks symbiosis have little control or hyper control decks that can answer engines

@michaelallen9571 Год назад

This list took me from rank 3 to pro rank easily

@mr.d_2000 Год назад

One of the most broken deck in Gwent history...even Renfri wasn't so broken! I played Gwent since 2016 ( Closed Beta ) and so sad to see, that this year is last for all of us...

@julianr.82 8 месяцев назад

Why do you think its the last year?

@mr.d_2000 8 месяцев назад

@@julianr.82 it's already happened, dude... no more new cards, no more events...

@Chronically_ChiII Год назад

That relict player brain farted pretty bad with the unicorn play.

@Chronically_ChiII Год назад

And then again with that inccubus play, man.

@RustCohle072 Год назад

Bruh why haven’t CDPR hotfixed this deck, it's making me mald. They want us to put up with this in over half our matches for a month?

@nikitarozhkov3617 Год назад

I was hoping for a hotfix too . But it seems like we are going to play against this new no-brain for a whole month ( or even more ) .

@KorDelSS Год назад

Last player is obviously trying to complete summer circle quests 😀

@AllFather97 Год назад

Skellige warriors with morkvark and warlords are insanely op it literally can counter every deck right now you have to try them

@vardansimonyan966 Год назад

could you send here a link?

@kurosaki90ichigo Год назад

link us brother !

@Homersmyid Год назад

Subbed. You're the first person I've seen suggest Francesca. I suppose she's a first target for the enemy, so many times doesn't succeed? Also, any reason for frost instead of fog?

@Qcento Год назад

You can boost Fran if you play Saskia first to keep her safe and I find frost hits for 2 more often than fog and its nice to chip cards down to be in Nature's Rebuke range.

@justinwilliams5682 11 месяцев назад

how do you feel about the 3 naiad cards? figgis merluzzo to protect your engines, seers, etc??

@yozarahirvi4750 Год назад

you're saying that warrior would be a tough matchup for this deck but I believe warrior doesn't have the power to match that deck. Even if they destroy every single engine you play, you'd still have +12 spring equinox to play. they still wouldn't be able to win round 1 because when they're destroying your engine, they're not putting points on board, and if you bleed them on round 2 and keep something like simlas, forrest protector and Harald for a short round 3 and crush him.

@thuantran3684 Год назад

Another card change that obviously not being play tested carefully by CDPR

@_erondel4563 Год назад

Equinox would be fine, if it would banish itself after use. Or if they'd get boosted after every 2nd nature card in your deck. The problem is that if the Seer survives and you can boost it, you pretty much won that round. It's just too much tempo. I feel like besides a the GN Bounty and Rot Tossers, you don't have a consistent way of destroying this deck's gameplan.

@toxic4dr355 Год назад

SK control can destroy all Seers, push in second round and get Simlas out, so there is a high probability to win

@ivanskrljac894 Год назад

@@toxic4dr355 Can you share your list?

@nikitarozhkov3617 Год назад

You can also conter them with Toussant, Nilfgard Ball or tactics with Lydia . But still new symbiosis is like one of the most broken decks of all times .

@thh8985 Год назад

NR Alumni are a great counter and also NG soldiers will ping it away. In the meantime I really hate Alissa plus Simlas. It’s one of the worst Combo’s in Gwent. These exaggerations like playing x waylays or x Spring Equinoxes are as annoying as Reavers.

@ivanskrljac894 Год назад

@@nikitarozhkov3617 MO relicts and SY lined pockets at peak power felt alot less fair to play against back in the day, hell if crimes never got nerfed this symbiosis deck would probably never have a unit to play equinox on haha. Symbiosis defenetly makes any "fun" or off meta decks unviable tho, you simply need to play some sort of counter or you lose pretty much whenever you see it. Making the game boring, either you play to counter it or you can concede whenever you queue against it. Revenants should be a great counter to symbiosis, especially with the rework of wolfs bane, just that ng is too strong to slip in even a single win against them. The game sometimes feels like an elaborate game of rock paper scissors

@martoafro Год назад

Whenever I play my seer it gets destroyed instantly TT Rip

@vibk2744 Год назад

People were crying about KoB with Savolla being potentially a 33point swing. Equinox Simlas can play for 41 with symbiosis. Guess CDPR didn't learn their lesson.

@findwisdom134 Год назад

I think that , they should make it that you must have 2 nature cards to get 1 boost , like tactics or give it doom You have to play a meme deck to purge yourself my man

@janleonhardt6891 Год назад

Only with a baseline buff of 2 or 3, otherwise the card doesnt really have payoff but yeah was my idea too

@Qcento Год назад

Tried to make Archgriffin work for a few hours today. I paid my dues. 😅

@findwisdom134 Год назад

@@QcentoXD nice

@haidaralmohsen4408 Год назад

i just faced this deck ... it destroyed everything i throw at it

@dannyavery5578 Год назад

Equinox (in it's current state) should have Doomed. Or, make it 7 Prov.

@Qcento Год назад

At least the one off Fran is doomed, but it doesn't change much.

@toxic4dr355 Год назад

It must be 6 prov + doomed

@jyteks522 Год назад

Minimum 41 points finisher and 12p bronzes arent balanced... Thye didnt learned leasson from nilfgard

@Nagadupa Год назад

Equinox should be gold

@evstwrld3888 Год назад

haha funny nature card go broken

@frankcasamento74 Год назад

Yeah its not Balanced. I got into a short round 3 and because of rng he droped 45 points on me in 3 cards

@Pindyblabla Год назад

Next patch they will nerve the seer to only non-neutral cards, mark my words.

@nimascolari1508 Год назад

Let's be honest this in my opinion is worse than Renfri 1 and 2. Versus pre fix Renfris we could at least Quax it. This deck slams 4 equinox with Seers then uses Alissa/Simlas to replay them. Very little that can be done. Jean must be back. 😂 🤦🏻‍♂️

@silent7072 Год назад

This is very bad for Gwent :) I hope they fix before the patch day...

@JR-bv3rc Год назад

This is so fucking boring to play against jfc reaver mains found their new calling

@Muckrackerz Год назад

Kinda dismal early season deck. I despise it when seasons start with a popular pure greed deck since this often pushes later season into really control heavy directions. Not your fault of course, deck is designed as well as it could be.