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Hacking the NEC P3 mobile phone, 1990's style 

Janus Cycle
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The NEC P3 mobile phone was one of the tools used but hackers to mess around with early cellular phone networks. A detailed look at the phone, and how it was modified, the test mode commands and how it took advantage of the vulnerability of early cellular networks.
NEC P3 - Year: 1990, service manuals
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@dodgem259
@dodgem259 3 года назад
I worked at one of the companies where these was manufactured. I was a 'Board Tester'. The board testing section would test each circuit board. Listening in to other peoples phone conversations was a favourite of the repair techs because they were the only ones that had all the gear to be able to do it. They had to be careful that the repair boss did not catch them doing it because the company frowned upon such activity. Another favourite of theirs was using the HP spectrum analysers they had on their work benches to listen into the phone conversations because if you had a good enough aerial, you could tune into the frequencies and listen in :). The P3 brings back good memories of working there.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 года назад
Great story, thank you for sharing.
@loganmacgyver2625
@loganmacgyver2625 Год назад
Back then listening to calls was frowned upon, when I worked at a service centre in 2021 we had competitions on the weirdest things on the phone
@loganmacgyver2625
@loganmacgyver2625 Год назад
@Infant Joseph Yehoshua porn as wallpaper, weird porn in the downloads folder etc
@shabath
@shabath 6 месяцев назад
@@loganmacgyver2625 Yeah bragging about breaking the law is probably not the smartest thing to do.
@wulliest
@wulliest 2 года назад
The little snippet of AMPS control channel at the end brings back happy memories...
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 года назад
I'm glad you enjoyed :)
@visionofwellboyofficial
@visionofwellboyofficial Год назад
AMPS existed in my country until 2001
@Exposingscammers
@Exposingscammers 3 года назад
That was my 1st phone. I remember the 8 - 10 hours standby, 45 - 60 minute talk time on the standard battery. One of the next phones I had actually allowed you to display the channel number & frequency you were talking on. Of course in those days I had a uniden handheld scanner which of course would scan the 800 Mhz range quite happily. I might have accidently tuned in on that frequency and accidently heard other peoples calls until it changed to a different tower. I had no idea about cloning or any of those illegal activities back then :D
@Subgunman
@Subgunman 3 года назад
Fantastic Memories! Many Thanks! I was a cell tech in the mid eighties with the old AMPS system in the US. Had almost every manual for almost any Manufacturer and their successive models until they went digital. Trained with, Motorola OKI NEC Mitsubishi Audiovox E.F. Johnson Nokia ( Radio Shack ) And a couple of others that evade my memory today, ah Uniden made a few. Cannot forget Marconi Instruments who made our cellular test set ( a few called them Macaroni who were Motorola die hards).
@dextrodemon
@dextrodemon Год назад
All that phreaking stuff seemed so cool when I was a kid, blue boxes and all that. But it was nearly all obsolete by that time. 😢
@phooeyman808
@phooeyman808 Год назад
The flip antenna was a game changer. It can hold the call for a few seconds without a battery so one can drop and change the battery like changing magazines in an automatic pistol.
@shaunclarke94
@shaunclarke94 4 года назад
It's crazy how insecure many older technologies are.
@crazy_wwww
@crazy_wwww Год назад
The 90s, where networks began to take off but without any security
@GrahamTruman
@GrahamTruman Год назад
i used to love the old analogue phones, they were too easy to hack or listen to with a radio scanner. good times lol
@jameshein8729
@jameshein8729 5 лет назад
Enjoyed this one, took me back to the good old days when a phone did what you wanted it to do: receive and make phone calls without any fuss :)
@ThunderRoadDreams
@ThunderRoadDreams 4 года назад
I’ve got one of these with full test mode , lots of fun back in the day
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 4 года назад
Nice, how did you activate full test mode?
@ThunderRoadDreams
@ThunderRoadDreams 4 года назад
@@JanusCycle worked in a phone shop in 1997, I was given it for some work I had done for them , it already had test mode enabled if I remember right you activated it with some key combinations starting with a * , was able to scan a listen in along with reprogram the ESN pair to both lines I had , I have still it along with a bunch of over phones like the Moto 8500x , I must power them all up :)
@christopherhulse8385
@christopherhulse8385 Год назад
I spent many hours in the 90s listening to people's phone conversations with my Yupiteru hand held scanner, great times.
@UXXV
@UXXV Год назад
Ah the old Italian ROM switch. One thing though was it was Woz who was interested in learning. Jobs was the business head who wanted to sell them. In the UK this caused all kinds of bother with newspapers listening into calls. Also remember they updated the network so you if the same NAM/ESN connected to one tower then minutes later appeared hundreds of miles away it would block them.
@thedave7760
@thedave7760 Год назад
Sometimes the phone in the company helicopter would get blocked for that reason, if you were to high then multiple towers miles apart would all be getting the same phone data so network would assume it had been cloned.
@Sebas_Cba_82
@Sebas_Cba_82 4 месяца назад
Que sistema primitivo de seguridad. Ja! la verdad que nadie penso en eso al inicio, pero fue vital, ya que clonaban los mobiles de manera muy simple.
@Sebas_Cba_82
@Sebas_Cba_82 4 месяца назад
@@thedave7760 No sabía eso, ya estaba en AMPS o NAMPS?
@themeantuber
@themeantuber Год назад
I'm surprised you call the OKI phone compromised. From all I've heard so far, that was some user friendly manufacturer.
@threeMetreJim
@threeMetreJim 5 месяцев назад
The older motorolla bag phones (4800x?) were even easier to put into test mode. From what I remember, it was just connecting two pins on the data connector. I've saved one that was modified after finding it for sale at a radio rally (hamfest) in the early 2000's, after the analogue network was switched off. I think there is even a photocopied motorolla bible with it and some parallel port connection lead.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 месяцев назад
There were phones easier to put into test mode than this one. I'm looking forward to exploring more very early phones later this year.
@rostyc
@rostyc 2 года назад
9:37 Even now it’s possible, in a way, by changing a caller ID using your own VoIP to GSM bridge, and so making your phone calls look like other persons ones
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 года назад
and SS7 hacking as well
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon Год назад
never heard of fingerprinting on uk networks, but all you needed was a pair from another far away area, as checking was done at a local level, so a pair from say Birmingham would happily work in London. Pair scanning in your area to swap with someone from another area became a thing. The original contract owner would soon cry foul at the end of the month and they would obviously see the pair being used all over England at the same time and have to admit it was cloned leaving the contract owner off the hook. If the pair was only used for a few calls then maybe not....
@Carambolero
@Carambolero Год назад
I remember to puting long code into the Motorola (pre startak) phone and do the scanning as well when i was a kid. I felt like a SPY. :) Thanks for the vid. Thumb up.
@Carambolero
@Carambolero Год назад
MicroTAC.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
You could do scanning on analogue phones. There was an analogue version of the StarTAC, the right code would have worked for that model as well.
@Footrotflats251
@Footrotflats251 11 месяцев назад
I’ve got one similar, slightly newer NEC MP5A1A2 Got it in 2012 and you could just get it to power on, battery was cooked then, it’d be pretty neat to make your own base station and be able to play around with it
@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Год назад
Wait so they just used analog modulation in early cellphones? So its really just a UHF radio? Thats very cool, I did not know that!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
Yeah, the first cellphone networks were just automatically switched UHF radio systems.
@1974UTuber
@1974UTuber Год назад
I love and miss my NEC P3. It was honestly the best phone I ever owned
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
This phone definitely has something about it to be admired.
@ericmoeller3634
@ericmoeller3634 9 месяцев назад
you can hear signals from a near by phone tower when u had it in scan mode i guess they haven't changed the rf frequencies that cell phones use for calling at least
@phooeyman808
@phooeyman808 Год назад
Isn’t that Russell Wong in the film clip from tear down?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
yep, that's him.
@JaredConnell
@JaredConnell Год назад
You mentioned the movie takedown, was this one of the phones that Kevin mitnick used? Or at least one similar? Or was that all dramatized for the movie?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
I'm not sure which models Kevin used. I always assumed it was Motorola. Since they have similar abilities and were more common in the U.S. at the time. The movie also seems to use Motorola.
@Axeman369
@Axeman369 5 лет назад
I had this phone and it had extra antenna also owe them over £140s hahahaha
@garbleduser
@garbleduser Год назад
I hope we get to see you do some work on the old Kyocera QCP-6035.
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle Год назад
I would love to find one of these.
@garbleduser
@garbleduser Год назад
@@JanusCycle I will have to dig through my old phone box to try and find one!
@A-damWest
@A-damWest Год назад
my first was a Motorola, after that stuck with the 3310 for a long time. i still have it today. you also had this flute from a pack of cereal wat they used to trick phones in amerika hehe
@A-damWest
@A-damWest Год назад
i "hacked" my nokia N-Gage with FEDexplorer back in the day i even got some Russian virus out of it that way, it coverded up my provider logo with some green russian text. i dont know wat else it did.... Cool video!👊👊👊
@A-damWest
@A-damWest Год назад
after XP i stopped tinkering arond with pc n such now theyr a Mystery to me....:P
@mistergame7569
@mistergame7569 3 года назад
Hi, very interesting video, I would have a problem removing the screws as I cannot find a suitable screwdriver. Would you know the name of the screw head? I've been trying for days, but nothing!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 3 года назад
I don't know what those screws are called. If you use some needle nose pliers that will work quite well.
@mistergame7569
@mistergame7569 3 года назад
@@JanusCycle Thanks, I'll try soon
@loisraymcinnis6006
@loisraymcinnis6006 Год назад
Thank you for timely, info.
@imtrinity94
@imtrinity94 4 года назад
You are a genius
@Footrotflats251
@Footrotflats251 11 месяцев назад
So if I find a time machine it’s RCL %12 to open squelch and then start hacking someone’s calls 😅😅 was it really that easy if you knew the programming codes?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 11 месяцев назад
Yep, it was that easy to listen in to cellular calls.
@Svveet69
@Svveet69 2 года назад
This was exactly what i was looking for
@nuboso9275
@nuboso9275 2 года назад
I got a p3 and I made the dongle but I can’t find the software. Does anyone know where I could find the p3test.exe file?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 года назад
Have a look here. packetstormsecurity.com/cellular_telephony/nec/
@nuboso9275
@nuboso9275 2 года назад
@@JanusCycle Wow man thank you so much! Thank you for the fast reply. Definitely earned a new sub!
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 2 года назад
@@nuboso9275 It's good to hear from a fellow P3 owner. If you need any help, let me know.
@nuboso9275
@nuboso9275 2 года назад
@@JanusCycle Alright! Thank you. This video is probably the most useful piece of information on the phones test features and history out there. I’m also planning to buy an OKI CDL900 but people on eBay want crazy money for it.
@aftkt
@aftkt Год назад
Wow! 🔥
@Kane6676
@Kane6676 5 лет назад
I have several old phones from 80s and 90s anything you can do with them ?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 лет назад
Depends on the brands and models that you have? Some 80's phones may be able to do similar things to this one and can also be quite collectible. Your 90's phone may be interesting digital 2G models. I would like to see Tetris running on a mid 90's phone which I plan to look into sometime.
@Kane6676
@Kane6676 5 лет назад
Janus Cycle ya I even have one of those old bag phones
@mattdorsey2244
@mattdorsey2244 Год назад
I still have mine. Looks and sounds exactly the same but mine is labeled NEC P300
@beebeefilms
@beebeefilms 5 лет назад
I have one, battery is good but won't boot up...any suggestions?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 лет назад
Yes, I had the same problem. Replace the 220uf 10V electrolytic capacitor that had been glued on it's side next to the inter-board connector. This may turn out to be a common fault, let me know how it goes.
@beebeefilms
@beebeefilms 5 лет назад
@@JanusCycle Thanx for getting back to me...opened it up and the 2 flat brass battery connectors were corroded...cleaned them up and it almost works...just need to find a decent battery now...
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 лет назад
@@beebeefilms Great to hear, good luck with the battery.
@markb4071
@markb4071 5 месяцев назад
absolutely fascinating - you don't realise at the time how insecure these things are ( as a average joe anyway)
@TCGProductions03
@TCGProductions03 5 лет назад
Any way one might be able to get these old phones on the air again?
@JanusCycle
@JanusCycle 5 лет назад
Yes, using a software radio such as HackRF. There is a proof of concept here, www.rtl-sdr.com/running-a-1g-mobile-phone-network-with-a-hackrf/ This can emulate the control channel for call set up and switch voice channels. I have not tried it myself, I’m not sure how well it works.
@thecooldude9999
@thecooldude9999 4 года назад
@@JanusCycle there's osmocom-analog as well, but that requires a limesdr. It's a little more refined than gr-amps, you just run a command and it sets up a network where phones can call each other. Theres also a facility for calling the outside world, but I haven't gotten that to work yet. I might do a video on it. osmocom-analog.eversberg.eu/
@shaunclarke94
@shaunclarke94 4 года назад
This was mentioned in the video. Yes, but big legalities of using licensed spectrum to do so.
@raxpyraxp
@raxpyraxp 10 месяцев назад
This is an 1G phone. Which means you can make and receive calls. And that's it. ...Except you can't 🙃
@blacknero1
@blacknero1 2 года назад
I still have mine just need a battery 😅😅
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