Hags | D&D Monster Lore | The Dungeoncast Ep.77

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Is that The Wicked Witch of the West riding a sled mushed on by four Bullywugs at the edge of the woods? Nope, just a Hag and you should stay away from it. Will and Brian are getting into the mind of a creature that's as ruthless and repulsive as it is strange and whimsical this week on The Dungeoncast!
Talking Points: Favorite Kind Of Lady, Mythology VS D&D, Babas Bad Witches, Living Forever 101, Misery Business, Hag Classic, Triggering The Donner Party, Part Of The Ship, The Worst Wallet, Megalomania Between Friends, The Bad Debt, Weird Magic, Outlandishly Mobile
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@philiphamel8504 6 лет назад

In Macbeth, the Hags are called the Weird Sisters, hence the origin of Weird Magic. Also, the Horned King in the Black Cauldron is very much a Lich.

@cadecook8067 6 лет назад

Granny Hags as a patron for a archfey warlock sounds like a great idea for an evil play through

@philiphamel8504 6 лет назад

Lee Cook I've done it. It threw my players for the biggest loop. (Granny had a husband who was a troll. Trolls in my world are the male equivalent of hags.)

@TheIdealofGreed 3 года назад

@@philiphamel8504 Did the trolls use magic, did they just have equivalent brute strength, or something else to equalize them to Hags?

@BlueKrr 3 года назад

I played one with Baba Yaga as patreon My DM always played with me

@D_A_D_ 3 года назад

Or a coven of grandmother hags. That would make for some interesting inter-coven politics

@Eruvadhril 6 лет назад

Clarke's Inverse Law: Any sufficiently-examined magic is indistinguishable from science. I also like how Baba Yaga has two modes of wacky transport: her house on chicken legs, and her giant mortar and pestle set that she uses to fly through the air.

@-Siculus-Hort- 6 лет назад

Danielle Clarke GRANDMOTHER!!!

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT 4 года назад

The beat example of a hags deal is like the movie brave. Merida chamges her fate but in the process turns her mom into a bear and then has to mend the bond to change her back

@AnyOccasionAsian 6 лет назад

I’ve been addicted to your podcast for a few weeks! Much love and support guys 😊😊

@Thedungeoncast 6 лет назад

Thank you so much!

@edwardperez3535 6 лет назад

35:15 “Auntie whatever, she lives forever” Bars

@thezerowulf2046 6 лет назад

Of all monsters hags are easily the best.

@alexandersmith9144 4 года назад

Love the Black Cauldron! I am surprised that Disney hasn't taken a crack at designing their own unique campaign setting for Dungeons & Dragons 5E. Seems like it would be something truly great! :)

@baffledrascal9386 6 лет назад

Lion king was a hamlet retelling I think that's why there was no hags. Another few examples was the fates in Disney's Hercules and the gargoyles animated series had a cool take on weird sisters from Macbeth

@gregmcallister2099 6 лет назад

Hags were always a go to villian with pathfinder. Thanks for another episode

@moonpearth 6 лет назад

The timing on this one was great! I am running Tomb of Annihilation and my group just got to Nanny Pu'pu... this episode really helped me role play this big bad way better for them! Thanks!

@kal-el702 6 лет назад

Interesting fact some succubi work for hags... Mostly night hags.

@NamelessKing1597 6 лет назад

Green Hag= wicked witch of the west Anis Hag= witch from Hansel and Gretel Bhear Hag = white witch from Chronicles of Narnia Sea Hag= Ursula Night Hag= Maleficent

@InquisitorThomas 5 лет назад

Green Hag = Maybe, but I feel that the main inspiration is more from MacBeth, but overall I feel the Green Hag is the most Vanilla Hag. Annis Hag = I feel the primary inspiration for the Annis Hag is the Folklore figure called Black Annis who has the blueish skin and large claws of the Annis Hag. Bheur Hag = besides the relationship with snow I don't see much common ground with the White Witch, I think the closest thing to the Bheur Hag is a Windego since both creatures have a focus on trapping victims in massive snow storm and watching them devolve in a survival situation. Sea Hag: since Ursula is the only real Sea Hag I'm aware of I'd say the comparison is relatively good. Night Hag: I forget the exact name of the creature the Night Hag is based on, but I know in German Folklore it's thought that a creature would sit on a sleeping person's chest and cause them to have Nightmares which is the Night Hags main schemes.

@iamvigant 4 года назад

@@InquisitorThomas hmm, not familiar with German folklore, but here's an article on the Baltic version: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lietuv%C4%93ns

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT 4 года назад

Yes!!!!

@Agreus-WolfsbaneYT 4 года назад

Green hag= the basic over all witch we think of but i think of wicked witch of the west or Macbeth. Annis hag=the blair witch or baba yaga or hanzel and gretel Behuer hag= the white witch Sea hag= Ursala or calypso or grendals mother Night hag= the fates or macbeth or mother gothel

@vigil9135 4 года назад

@@InquisitorThomas there is a creature in norse mythology called a Mare that have alot in common with the night hags.

@DeedeeDirt 6 лет назад

Yay I can't wait to play a Harrowing Hero Warlock who's patron is a Hag!

@KaWaiiXDCoCo88 6 лет назад

Great podcasts - Keep up the good work 👍🏾✌🏾.

@beauberry6179 5 лет назад

I love your podcasts. Quality work, guys.

@mvfolev 6 лет назад

Would love to see a Monster Mythos on Grungs! Keep up the great work as always

@Thedungeoncast 6 лет назад

We will get there eventually :)

@finnmchugh99 4 года назад

The worst thing for a hag would technically be if it were within distance of a town which has a beauty pageant, the worst possible outcome I can think of is that Hag, probably a Sea Hag whom hate beauty the most and are the most ugly of the bunch, got their webbed hands on a Formorian's Evil Eyeball and each year deform the pageant winner as her own little hobby and perhaps acquire some fishy minions to Plague any ship she feels like tormenting. Hags are the most versatile Villains for early level campaigns and that's the beauty of a Hag

@tishabyte 6 лет назад

Part of the ship part of the crew. Lolol

@Bubble_Rum 2 месяца назад

Finally someone who pronounces Bheur correctly! Thank you I loved this!

@impartialthrone2097 10 месяцев назад

What I like about the D&D magic system is that, yes spellcasters know that components A B and C produce a certain magical outcome, but it doesn't seem like anyone knows *why*. Like, there's no logical reason why a ball of bat guano and sulfur plus some hand motions and certain mouth noises should produce a fireball effect, but it does. People know it does, but not why. Does that make sense? I feel like the mystery of magic is still somewhat maintained in that way, and Weird Magic just dials that up another level, because there's especially no reason for that to work lol.

@Licjr 6 лет назад

In a homebrew game I run, I used a sea hag named Old Driftwood that preyed on this island village. She demanded a female child once a year in exchange for her not tormenting the town. She would use a ritual on this child and turn them into a harpy

@njdbrasil6 10 месяцев назад

I like the idea of Hag version for divine intervention for the Weird Magic. Works but is limited to once a week since it’s costs so much magic to cast

@KS-PNW Год назад

The 2E Van Richten's Guide to Hags had a "witch" class. Not sure if its been adapted for later editions but they were kind of cool. Basically sorcerer's with more spell slots but they had to have magical foci (wands, crystal balls etc) to cast spells. They could only have so many foci attuned at a time (increasing with level) forced you to pick and choose what kinds of spells you wanted to use.

@elfmageking2005 6 лет назад

I’m a personal friend of sometimes allowing a wizard or some spell casters to create their own unique spells as in my thoughts they should be researching magic but to balance this I would have to approve the spell and it would cost more money to develop the spell then it would take them to just copy a spell into their book as they have to buy testing ingredients and practice then copy the final version into their books

@silmeking7924 6 лет назад

Keep up the great work.

@fapplejax5486 4 года назад

I always picture the swamp scene in the movie Legend.

@theinvisiblewoman6783 3 года назад

Yes! She scared me so much as a kid.

@Scorned Год назад

Its been four years, where are my hag deep dives

@ryderh2477 5 лет назад

Good stuff I just started a PC that is a kenku bard, watched those vids to. She left her flock drawn by the sound of a aniss hags harp the hag befriends her and gives her a peice of her brain granting the gift of creativity for the act of spreading the hags principles with both partial mentality of the hag and the iron coin to confide in the hag

@MFinGonzo 4 года назад

Bhear hag kills something and you will need to cast mend first then revive

@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998 4 года назад

They should remake a ravenloft setting with other domains like Barovia. One domain being lorded over by a coven of Hags would be awesome ! Other than that, Highly addictive channel ! Keep up with the awesome content !

@rbsz6202 6 лет назад

Love listening to you guys!

@Thedungeoncast 6 лет назад

Thanks Robert!

@johntheherbalistg8756 5 лет назад

"Worst wallet" doesn't quite cover it. They make the bags from the skin of the victim 😱 Also, I'm using a mega coven of hags in my game (3 covens joined under one called Nanna) as a helpful neutral NPC resource. Potentially, anyway. My party might simply attack something as creepy as a hag lol. The players are good with horror themes, but their characters have a pretty low threshold for creepiness. I'm building Nanna right now, and this was a very helpful video

@huntersimonds3972 6 лет назад

How close would hags live to each other if they aren't in/before they form a coven?

@d20tavernaz68 4 года назад

Currently running a campaign in Droaam the land of Monsters located in Khorvaire.

@pigstiches 3 года назад

Thanks guys. This was pretty informative.

@InquisitorThomas 6 лет назад

So how would you make Auntie or Granny Hag? According to the Hag section of Volo’s Guide they gain Lair actions and regional effects, but what else do they get?

@Licjr 6 лет назад

Inquisitor Thomas I'd go with more hit points, and higher proficiency bonus and base stats

@InquisitorThomas 6 лет назад

Licjr 1018 would they get legendary actions?

@Licjr 6 лет назад

Inquisitor Thomas I'd say so. If they're part of a coven I'd probably go with legendary actions and resistance that's split among the members of the coven. Like, a coven that includes an auntie or granny has 3 legendary actions and 3/day legendary resistances, but any member of the coven can use them. Maybe bump their coven spellcasting up to include a 7th or 8th level slot

@fridaymovies2924 4 года назад

Something else worth mentioning- The VVitch is also a great example of how a Warlock of the Fiend might have gone about creating their pact! 💁🏻‍♂️

@Haunted_Gallows 6 лет назад

Icky Vicky?! Fairly Odd Parents?! C'mon Brian, wheres your reference game?!

@RavinerPayne 3 года назад

A night hag that can escape any prison, magical trap or even refresh their being (gain full health and even spell slots) if they, even for an instant make the character believe they can (some sort of wisdom saving throw).

@ostrowulf 5 лет назад

Hags would be great as just an on going thing through a charcter's or group's story. End up having to deal with one off the get go, or even as part of the origin story of a character. Never having them as the big bad, maybe even having be who the party keeps having to ask for help to defeat big bads. Then that is why things keep getting worse. Oh, you stopped the gnoll raids after the hag told you how to find where they were hiding. Too bad they were also raiding the the hobgoblin supply lines. Now they are good to go to invade. That is so great you defeated the hobgoblins after the hag helped enchant your weapons. You did such a magnificent job hunting them down that their head (I forget the name of hobgoblin magic guys) turned himself into a lich so he could get vengance on you.

@goblinb 5 лет назад

Good examples of hags are the witches in the 1989 movie The Witches, Meg Mucklebones from the movie Legend, the witches in The Nightmare Before Christmas, and there are hags in the 1983 TV special Faeries, while very much geared towards children and if you can get through that, is a very good example of Faerie and it's denizens(and I believe it is based off the book Faeries by Brian Froud, who designed the creatures in The Dark Crystal and Labrinth, and Allen Lee, who designed Peter Jackson's Lord Of The Rings). In folklore, Jenny Greenteeth, Peg Powler, elder tree spirits, and of course, Baba Yaga.

@ChaoticTabris 6 лет назад

So, i've been reading Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller Chronicles and there is something very interesting in the way magic works. Most forms of magic have very strict rules in the book, except for 2 forms of magic, the innate magic of the Fey and Naming which are the ones that are capable of making the most powerful effects.

@trentonvail6388 2 года назад

I know that this is 3 years ole, but we now have examples in the wild beyond the witch light campaign lol staring esoteric magic

@gregfry3103 2 года назад

Watching this episode, an advertiser called The Crone Firm was shown - a law firm. 😂😂

@notsae66 6 лет назад

In the Devils episode you spoke of Devils occasionally (very, very rarely) turning to good; does a similar thing ever occur amongst Hags? As far as "Weird Magic" goes, I honestly think anyone that delves deep enough into magic and spends enough time on it (possibly hundreds and thousands of years) should be able to create new spells. Even if magic is treated as science, new things are discovered all the time in science.

@PrimordialAnnihilator 6 лет назад

A warlock is technically the term for a male witch

@-Siculus-Hort- 6 лет назад

Steven Stewart nahh...warlock means "oath breaker". You can make many a witch made by calling them a warlock...

@PrimordialAnnihilator 6 лет назад

Jarald the Pale thanks for letting me know

@Digitalhdwmn 4 года назад

@@-Siculus-Hort- according to the dictionary the definition of a male Witch is Warlock.

@-Siculus-Hort- 4 года назад

@@Digitalhdwmn im cherry picking. medium.com/@DorianGreyScale/til-the-history-of-the-word-warlock-c1c31aee960

@theinvisiblewoman6783 3 года назад

After WandaVision Auntie Agnes means a whole different thing to me. Lol

@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998 4 года назад

Love the mechanics for the Wyrd magic of the Hags ; in my games i make it so the Arcane lore checks are super hard to make, and thus extra hard to counterspell, to express how strange their spellcasting is, like throwing pixie wings and pickled frog eyes in a cauldron to produce a stinking cloud and so on ^^ So much space for homebrew stuff that i think Hags should never be some simple random-like encounters, and with wicked lairs, like having imps wielding wands of magic missiles, enchanted candles that slow the party as long as they burn for example. With older Hags having sorcerer or warlock lvls etc. And of course a load of magic items, but unusable for the party since they are « Hag Magic »

@ogcommunity8877 2 года назад

Since D&D fully researches into all mythos, when it comes to green faced hags, traditionally how would someone who's being stalked by a coven, either get them to back off, warding, banish or get rid of them? And what is a 9ft male version in a black robe? What is that considered to be?

@G-Blockster 8 месяцев назад

"Hags thrive on filling others with despair, corrupting people, and making people miserable." Just like my ex-wife.

@carsonlynch7407 4 года назад

Can someone tell me the source book for weird magic? I can't find any mention of it outside this podcast?

@rippertrain 2 года назад

I like granny Weatherwax

@Metanaut1 Год назад

My players dread little old grannies, more than anything.

@skuzzbard3710 3 года назад

Day hag. Oooooooooooo fighter of the night hag oooooooooo

@alexandratimms4290 2 года назад

Researching hags for an upcoming quest and this comment slayed me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 brilliant always sunny reference 🤣🤣🤣

@CERap22 4 года назад

They keep talking about bargaining with a Hag. And all I keep thinking is how a little blue tiefling gave one a cupcake... I'll just leave this here...😏😏😏

@michaelfreeman3189 6 лет назад

You're basically describing the women of my family.

@dans3.macabre 4 года назад

Can't believe it took you so long to figure out Hocus Pocus 😭😭😂😂😂

@thevoidcritter 5 лет назад

Way late, but I also apply the "weird magic" rules to demon lords and powerful fey. Archdevils I also have do homebrew stuff, but it's easier for the players to figure out due to their lawful nature.

@theinvisiblewoman6783 3 года назад

Now I’m imagining wondering into a town and a few families are complaining about their group of daughters who have been more and more cruel to the other children of the village. Their birthdays are all in the same month. Then bunch of creepy hag girls go running off into the woods.

@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself 6 лет назад

How about this dark mythos of hags: corrupted spellcasters who are kept alive by magic, but find this a burden and corrupt others to spread death out of spite for their wicked fate.

@johntheherbalistg8756 5 лет назад

That could be a cool "plan B" for lichdom. In my current game, they just work too damn well as sadistic fey creatures lol. I'm using a night hag as a neutral npc resource, while she still has a reason to work with mortals (aka her food). She's known locally as Nana, and genuinely likes the children of the local village.

@billy-ey2kb 4 года назад

#PartOfTheShipPartOfTheCrew

@CousinVinnie42069 3 года назад

What about fairy godmother from shrek 2

@shamusfarmer 9 месяцев назад

I hate it when my 13yo daughters keep running off into the woods to do "hag stuff" as they call it... very tragic.

@quantumperception 11 месяцев назад

If they are denying you ad revenue by saying that they can't find advertisers because of questionable content, then they are lying, because I always see at least 2 ads every time I watch a video. Hope you are getting your fair share, because I would feel better knowing at least some is going to good people, and not soulless corporate monsters.

@Smokinindachi 6 лет назад

Hey guys love your Dungeoncast I've been watching your channel for a year and started playing D&D because of it. I've recently finished buying all of the 5e book and was going to get into 4e, 3.5e, 3e and so on working my way back. Do you know or have a list of all the books of those editions or where I could find a list been looking but can't find a complete one. Thanks and keep up the good work.

@Thedungeoncast 6 лет назад

Both 4e and 3.5 have an absurd amount of source books. here is a list of all 4e sourcebooks : forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Category:4th_edition_sourcebooks If you haven't played 4e before, I would recommend starting with the Monster Vault, Dungeon Master's Kit and the Heroes of a Fallen Land/Forgotten Kingdom books. These are from the D&D Essentials line. D&D Essentials was a series published towards the end of 4e's lifespan that really consolidated and streamlined the game. It made it easier for new people to learn and felt more cohesive. If you enjoy these books then the rest of 4e will be a blast to add on to your collection. Here is a complete list of 3.0/3.5 source books. All I can really say here is good luck! Iaam not too experienced with this edition, but this list is exhaustive. Outside of the core MM, DMG, and PHB I wouldn't even know where to begin. www.reddit.com/r/DnD/comments/3d2ptm/complete_list_of_dnd_35_source_books/

@Smokinindachi 6 лет назад

Thank you this mean more to me than you know

@impartialthrone2097 2 года назад

One of those rare creature types that doesn't do the whole "my species is perfect and I am the perfect member of my species and must dominate everything else" thing Edit: goddamnit they do think they're the best? Ugh.

@KS-PNW Год назад

I don't know that they think of themselves as "the best," so much as superior to regular humans/elves etc. At least in the older editions Night Hags were fiends and a little different but the core three species (Annis, Green and Sea) had a different take then most of the species supremacists.

@MetalGearMachina 3 года назад

The Lion King is a remake of Hamlet, not Macbeth.

@shamusfarmer 3 года назад

I actually think the MM seahag is borderline attractive...

@vadermardark 5 лет назад

We will talk about this later ...how many times does Will say that each episode? Also...It will get its own episode

@draxthemsklonst 4 года назад

Every time they go off on a tangent...

@loginyoass3771 3 года назад

I dated a girl for a while who was related to the Dohner party

@liamvandenberge2544 2 года назад

sith are not only males

@quantumperception 2 года назад

Algorithm comment!

@abitvillager6112 Год назад

@kevinchristiansen4348 5 лет назад

night hag, night hag, yay booya! I love hags, changelings who turn themselves intoa hag because the voices tell them to do it! ok, changelings are all female so why do they need to become da hag? I dunno

@PrivateAccountXSG 6 лет назад

Basically I watch every episode to hear Wills lore, and just endure Brians commentary. The jokes aren't funny and he throws them out constantly... Surely I'm not alone here...