Halbrand/Sauron | Dark Lord 

haha the irony

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He was the only reason I watched the show

me too 🤣

he was a fascinating character. the main reason of why i watched that show , what a good surprise to see he was the most baddest dark lord of all time in disguise

No se conoce realmente el verdadero nombre de sauron, sauron le llamaban los elfos que significa el aborrecible y cuando los engaño se hizo llamar annatar o el señor de los dones puede ser llamado igual según ciertos títulos que posee como el señor de los anillos, el señor de los dones, el señor de mordor, el nigromante, el señor de los licantropos, el enemigo, etcétera.

@@kcajatapaz7735 True. Mairon is gone, there is only Sauron now.

@@ryankwon8785 just like no more anakin it's only darth now

@@denniscarloreyes4784 Yeah. Season 2 is said to cover Sauron's story before the Raft and after his arrival in Mordor. Maybe we can have Sauron witnessing Morgoth being banished into the Timeless Void by Tulkas and Sauron himself attempting to repent by meeting with Eonwe.

Wasnt the name Sauron given to him by his foes? I am not sure, but I believe I read in The Two Towers that Sauron himself doesnt call himself that. Sarumans orcs had an S painted on their armors. Gimli or Legolas suggested that the S stands for Sauron. Aragorn (or Legolas) replied that he doesnt call himself that.

This is actually a really good take on me… I got some thinking to do. Wow.

So very well said

The thing about Sauron was he was actually a being with good intentions right from the start. He understands good, just not wholly. His vision was to organize and bring order to all of Arda, in a grand scale. What he doesn't understand is how little things also is good. To him, anything smaller than grand unification was merely a tool. And his actions to him were a necessary evil for what he perceived to be a noble purpose. And so, as time passed, he fell further in further to evil because of what he did in his ambitions.

perhaps the most interesting character, followuing him was enough fascinating

From his point of view he would have created a better, more orderly and more powerful Middle Earth.

Lets kick Galadriel's ass.

Like thanos

I also do, and loved his arc, how his cunningness and habilities were depicted

"Wants to do good in his own twisted way" is literally Sauron's character - he values order above all else, no matter the cost. He initially used deception to enforce it, and when Eru stripped him of that ability, military might in the third age. I think after Adar (allegedly) killed him, he lost hope and went to Valinor to seek forgiveness before changing his mind (hence why he was on the raft, I think Amazon are screwing with the timeline), and then Galadriel put him back on the path of tyranny.

Unfortunately, the Silmarillion casts him in a much more negative light. He is defeated, claims he repents and is compelled to return to Valar and go before Manwe and receive his repentance and judgment. He chooses to flee to the Far East instead. So I would say that as far as the show goes to try and paint him in a more sympathetic light, he remains what he always has been: Sauron the deceiver. The player of the long game.

@@mattstyles He still is hinted as conflicted with his idea of perfection for middle earth

The script does not make any sense, do not try to find a logical explanation. It is just a crappy TV series.

I think he was being honest. I think he really wanted to be good and that at this point when he was with her he truly believed what he was saying to her. However, I also think Morgoth's corruption ran so deep that Sauron couldn't even see how far gone he was

Saurondriel in the tabloids

He would have corrupted her light in the end. He had no interest for her light, but for her equal potential for darkness, seeing a kindred being in her. I believe that is part of why he was so furious when she refused his offer

@@Meggimagine lmfao talking about "light" or any "good" qualities of this racist sadist. Only Adar has any redeeming qualities

@@kasperwozowicz ??

He wouldn't let her become a Queen at his Side,he would most likely get rid of her once her use is over

It seems odd he would keep that form though now that the cat is out of the bag

That would be cool but I heard Charlie has the role for as long as the show runs

I think what might happen is that Sauron will continue to take Halbrand's form for awhile. The people of the Southlands don't know what happened to him. My guess is that Galadriel will inform them that their king is dead, and he will return to them later and deceive a large faction of them into turning against the elves.

It really comes down to the execution. The music, the dialogue, and the imagery here is absolutely perfect

Honestly it helps me realise what their going for with Sauron and I love it They just aren’t exploring it as well as I’d hope

Thank you !!

Because that is the only reason between good and evil Galadriel also went to middle earth to rule in the first place and have her own rule but nothing like his. Gil, thranduil they all wanted to rule. Saurons was different type

Actually, now that I think about it, erudamn Sauron managed to put a spell on me too. It might be only me, but Halbrand-Sauron is among the top movie-characters ever.

I've noticed that too, there is an unreasonable amount of hate for the show, even long before it came out.

​@@liamfaoisidheold toxic Tolkien fans.

@@tayluvofficial not toxic. I'm a tolkien fan and gave the show the benefit of the doubt. And watching it I hated the fact that they skipped several key important lore nuggets, added the random new stuff, amongst many other things. Above all, I hated all the harfoot scenes because they were so slow and boring but also the Harfoots didn't have a major role in the second age. Although to give credits, I think Halbrand was a formidable actor.

@@h3xa817 No, they're toxic. I mean you can legit dislike the show, but the shere seething hatred they show for is just sad. I thought it was alright, I enjoy the books, but everyone needs to calm down.

@@Chris44sun I beg to differ. There are some toxic fans out there: most notably defined by their racism towards the cast members but they're a substrate. If you're going to cluster those buffoons into the lot then you're mistakened. Many of the fans hating on the show have different reasons to do so: not keeping up with the lore, homogenous characters, ghastly costume design that look excruciatingly pretentious and even many of the scenes not vibing like middle earth. For example: non of the harfoot scenes gave me middle earth impression. If you enjoyed the show then more power to you, but in a world where house of the dragons is a thing, I expect ROP to stand on par. Another thing that annoys me off about ROP is the fact that elves actually had long hair in their original concept arts (all their concept arts have elves with long hair) but for whatever reason in the end product they sought to cut cost and go for an elvis presley hair style which makes no sense given the proto medieval timeline. However, I will agree that the show did have some really great moments and I personally thogurouly enjoyed galadriel's acting, and the mithril backstory - even though it was totally made up for the show.

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Anyone familiar with Tolkien's lore would have picked a dozen hints Halbrand is Sauron so no surprises there for them. Curiously, these same people were loudly cursing the show for ignoring Tolkien's lore 🙄

@@akikolehmainen88 Simply adding hints about Sauron and ignoring a vast amount of other lore doesn't balance out.

The most shocking revelation in all of televised history! 😄

Yeah I thought that halbrand would be revealed as the witch king of angmar but a pretty solid twist altogether.

@@zacglover3345 Angmar is his own person though, plus Sauron's alias was Halbrand in the books

@@gamerstheater1187 no it wasn't he had the name Annatar during the Second Age when the rings were being made

I'll take the compliment lmfao

He loved her when she wanted genocide for orcs

He fell in love with her when she called for a final solution for Orcs😂😂😂

Thank you so much

Nobody could have seen this 😂

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keep dreaming...theres no way galadriel from the series is galadriel from the books :D

Thank you so much !!

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this is LITERALLY the series

@@ultronemperor3525 tf do you mean? This show is shit

@@ultronemperor3525 Minus 7.5 hours of schlock…so, no, this is not literally the series. Much was improved by limiting Galadriel’s dialogue and leaving out the tedious Numenoreans, Southlanders, dwarves and the psychopathic proto-hobbits. I know this is like plucking out the best parts of a CW series, but that’s the only thing this series did right. It’s almost as if they should have left poor Tolkien’s work alone and made a mid-evil Twilight like story.

@@hawaiianpunch781 gonna cry?

@@cyberwarrior8382 so is your comment, yet I will not cry about it

thank youuuuuu

You forgot Elrond and Elendil...

Thats not true!

because he was trying to recruit her not out of his goodness. he tried to drown her when she refused to join her.

ikr

The same reason Hitler fought alongside the Soviets against the Poles.

because thats what he did in the books most of his time until last age.

why disappointing ?

Most people knew it.

*What do you know of darkness?* 🔥👁🔥