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Half-Diminished Chords Deep Dive 

Jeremy Siskind
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Pianist and educator Jeremy Siskind describes the history, uses, scales, and voicings for half-diminished (minor seventh, flat five) chords, including referencing the tune "Beautiful Love."

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Комментарии : 41   
@christopherhuber9037
@christopherhuber9037 Год назад
Need a whole section on my bookshelf for all these books!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
You and me both, bro!
@cm-uy6ec
@cm-uy6ec Год назад
Wonderful lesson Jeremy - Thank you
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
My pleasure! Thank you for watching!
@theoooms7277
@theoooms7277 Год назад
nice and interesting topic; I love the sound of these half diminished 7/minor 6 chords. I use them frequently in major, borrowing from minor.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Nice!!!
@abath07
@abath07 Год назад
I play Barry Harris’s scale “the minor’s five”, not the three scales Jeremey suggested. It’s the only scale that keeps the chord tones on the beat, it has eight tones. Barry discovered it in the playing of Charlie Parker. It’s highly melodic.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
I’m curious! Can you tell me what the notes of that scale would be for like a C half diminished? C Db Eb F Gb Ab Bb B?
@fondtrout6354
@fondtrout6354 Год назад
@@JeremySiskind it’s like Eb-6/C with a b6 passing tone, (b6 of the Eb-6) it’s kind of like a bebop mode of melodic minor. C D Eb F Gb Ab Bb (B/Cb) C so if you analyze the passing tone in the context of C-7b5 it’s the maj7 but I think when people most successfully use this system they visualize an Eb-6 bebop scale and “put the 6 in the bass,” that is supposedly a semi-direct quote from Monk.
@williamm2578
@williamm2578 Год назад
great video dude. I like that you are doing more advanced theory like this. I find it hard to find channels that are for non "beginner" level. I've never really understood the half diminished chord so as soon as you started describing it i paused the video and played around with it on my piano. I was one of the freaks that was raising the 7 on a dim chord. I can see it both ways now, thanks. this is the first video of yours I've seen but I am excited to check out more. I would say that it would be nice to see what chord progressions you are going through in the examples you play but that is my only note and i understand if its too much work too add them in post. cheers
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Lol, “one of the freaks,” eh? Let me know if you have suggestions or questions you’d like me to address on my channel. Welcome to you!
@brendaboykin3281
@brendaboykin3281 Год назад
Thank you, Maestro. Always great info. Loved the tip on Debussy. All the best. 🌹🌹🌹🌹Very thorough lesson. I love my "cop-out" minor 9b5=mode 2 harmonic major=no melodic minor math.😁
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Haha but you’ve got some harmonic major math to do then. I guess it’s trading one problem for another. 😂
@stuartheadey5240
@stuartheadey5240 Год назад
That was really useful, Jeremy. I love the sound of the half diminished. They don't seem to cover it much in the classical curriculum.... At least not in my experience.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Interesting! I agree with you at least so far as I don’t feel like Minor harmony is as well covered in music theory classes as major harmony and that frequently leaves out that half-diminished chord.
@zacharyhadley2156
@zacharyhadley2156 Год назад
Great to see a dive on this particular chord type! I like the usage of it like in "Night and Day" or "Christmas Time is Here", where you play a descending turnaround that starts on a half diminished chord a tritone a way from the root of the I and goes down chromatically to a ii-V back to the I. I wonder if there is a name for this type of turnaround?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Good question! We’re going to have to give it a name. How about George? (Joking) I also associate that progression with “I Should Care” and “In a Sentimental Mood.”
@zacharyhadley2156
@zacharyhadley2156 Год назад
@@JeremySiskind Maybe "Tour De Force" by Dizzy Gillespie too sorta in its A section...Maybe these things don't need names but it seems there are patterns that re-occur out there! Its really interesting to me...
@shreddaily101
@shreddaily101 Год назад
Hi Jeremy great video as always, this compliments your book very nicely. I have a question that I thought you might be able to touch on some day. I feel like I am always “voice leading” when I comp, but when I listen to others I here them jump around and make leaps and lines. When is it appropriate to jump and shift in your comping, and when should you strictly voice lead? Thanks for all your content.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Great question! Before anything else, it seems like you have most of the answer your question in the question. You are absolutely right that voice leading is important but when you listen to the greats, who is leading is only one of several considerations. Often times, the voice leading of the top note is prioritize and other things or sacrificed. You might replace the idea voice leading with making sure the top now to the voicing makes a melody.
@ernsterlanson
@ernsterlanson Год назад
@@JeremySiskind FWIW my addition here would be that I think working out proper voiceleadings for chords opens, or focus my ears on how the chords move between each other. Which then creates oppurtunities for creating lines in comping etc. But I have also been thinking to myself, "why I am sitting here voice-leading carefully when the masters just seem to play around".
@cabijista1
@cabijista1 Год назад
Nice, always great to see different peoples take on these pesky chords 😂. Just like to share another possible way of creating 5 note voicings for half diminished chords that harkens back to the idea that they’re really minor 6th chords, and that’s to create voicings from every other note of what’s sometimes called the minor 6 pentatonic scale, ex: C, D, Eb, G, A (just a major pentatonic with a flat 3), a minor 3rd away. So for example, to voice A half dim, we can play every other note of C minor 6 pentatonic, a la C, Eb, A, D, G. The cool thing too is that this works starting on any note of the minor 6 pentatonic so this gives us 5 different voicings, ex: C, Eb, A, D, G or Eb, A, D, G, C, etc.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Yes! Very good and I love the pentatonic approach. Thanks for sharing. I definitely know some players and teachers who are very into seeing a half diminished chord as the minor sixth in inversion. I got where they’re coming from, but I’ve never found that extra step necessary personally.
@kareemakhtar6691
@kareemakhtar6691 Год назад
Debussy Liszt Gillespie in one awesome lesson - nice!
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Haha, thanks! Who knew they had anything in common?!
@melius9525
@melius9525 Год назад
I've understood that the name half-diminished chord comes from the fact that when contrasted to a minor seventh chord, only the interval of a fifth is diminished whereas in the °7 chord the interval of a fifth and the m7 are both diminished (therefore fully-diminished). Don't know about the common practice in the US, but here in Finland the °7 chord is also very carefreeingly called when translated; a fully-diminished (seventh) chord in everyday use😊.
@melius9525
@melius9525 Год назад
It also would be super weird to diminish the prime (the root) or the minor third any further and I figure that's why only the fifth and the seventh are diminished and the subsequent chord is considered "fully-diminished". So the °7 chord is a fully diminished form of the minor seventh chord whereas the half-diminished chord is the... well, half-diminished form of the minor seventh chord... Just my two cents 🤔.
@melius9525
@melius9525 Год назад
One could ALSO argue that the minor sixth chord is some sort of a different half-diminished chord as well when contrasted with the minor seventh chord (this I mean in addition to it being an inversion of the half-diminished chord of course) if you were to think about it with its minor seventh being diminished to a sixth and the fifth staying natural... But that's an argument to be made for another day 😁.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Wow there’s a lot here! That seems to match up with my understanding of why we refer to it as half-diminished, at the very least!
@felixtani4030
@felixtani4030 Год назад
Nice! Barry Harris uses the Harmonic minor on the whole minor 2-5 .
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Yes - I’m an advocate for that too! It’s in the new book. 😉
@thekeyoflifepiano
@thekeyoflifepiano Год назад
How bad would it be to learn Jazz on a 61 semi-weighted keyboard if I already can play other genres well on a standard piano?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
I think it’s okay! in general, as you to higher levels of artistry, you are going to want more keys, but to get started and you can use a smaller instrument.
@b5k
@b5k Год назад
Thanks, informative video! Can you explain what is happening to the Bb in the Dminor chord at about 12:30? You are playing the B as a natural, which is not in the D minor scale. Is that a 6/9 chord instead of Dmmaj7/Dm7 ? And why is the 6 natural in that case?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
Great question! Tonic minor chords are generally played using the 6th (the 6th from the major scale, as you observed). The shortest explanation is because it is the best sounding chord for that function. Minor major seventh chords are possible but are very tense. The Minor six rubs up against the fifth of the chord too much to be useful. The minor seventh (Dm7) excludes the leading tone and thus doesn’t work very well in a tonic function.
@b5k
@b5k Год назад
@@JeremySiskind Thanks for the reply. What is the leading tone you're referring to here (Dm7)?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
@@b5k Leading tone in the key of D minor would be C#.
@b5k
@b5k Год назад
@@JeremySiskind Ok, thank you!
@giannigimondi1789
@giannigimondi1789 Год назад
How can I buy your book?
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
In the United States, the best place to do it is at www.JeremySiskind.com/shop. Internationally, you can still buy the PDF from my site, but if you want the physical book, you can buy it from Amazon.
@JeremySiskind
@JeremySiskind Год назад
And thanks for asking!
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