@A. Lampman I would've believed you thought what you were saying was true if you would've written "Most of us are to stupid too understand their's a difference anyway."
camhcom That scene where he corners Bev and the chase scene over the bridge down the gully were the only times I was on edge worried for the characters.
@@thenbhdenthusiast3699 haha it’s the actors portrayal that got the laughing I’m sure. It was said “ so goofy”. Maybe if he was laughing at the girl acting scared. And I’m laughing at you because you got offended by thewildcard person opinion of an actors performance. Now I’m laughing at you even more because of your conclusions.
The after credit scene had Pennywise crawling out the hole and a black guy with an eye patch pop out of nowhere. The black guy talks about the monster initiative and that he wasn't the only monster to kill children
Children's fears: Monsters, bullies, the dark Adult's fears: Not earning enough to pay bills, in-laws visiting, another piece of their childhood being destroyed by Hollywood
Jacob Lynch our of the whole town the losers club were truly victimized by not only the bullies but by their personal home lives. Especially Beverly. That’s what drew them together and ultimately gave them there power over it. Pennywise loves playing with his food. Out of all the children in dairy those losers were basically marinated. They were the easiest meal he could find. Unbeknownst to Pennywise all the losers had a little of the shining. Giving them a “spidersense”😎 that kept them on the run. Which Pennywise didn’t mind because the town is his web. And having ran from Pennywise would taste that much better later. Unfortunate for Pennywise they would find strength in their belief in the love for each other and in not being afraid of Pennywise. Which weakens him and makes him/her/it afraid of the losers club.
MrAppie9090 thats because there two different types of movie monsters. Penny wise feeds on dairy like a spider with morbid intelligence and a xenomorph is an alien ant. Big difference. But ya like what ya like and vise versa. I’ll be waiting for chapter 2.😎
@@teece92 but he never lets them go to "salt the meat." that's just something the movies put in because it's hard to do the actual reason they get away (because they have something to anchor them to the world and they aren't overwhelmed by fear of it, e.g. the bird book, or just their faith in each other) i would even say it makes more sense if pennywise isn't even intelligent, and its agency is just something the kids project onto it in the same way it's weak to silver because they believe that. that pennywise is nothing but a horrible reflection of people's psyche and there's nothing at all behind the mirror, no will or intelligence
Okay for real, Jay's lame joke about how "its ironic clowns are taking this so seriously", is legitimately one of the best jokes hes ever had. Gold star quality.
Coletrain Hetrick Hack means it's a sweaty, greying, overweight movie-reviewing man-baby in his late 30s. Mike Stoklasa, for example, is a hack. A hack fraud, in fact.
New to this channel but whoever the guy on the right is, he's talking a hell of a lot of sense. And the guy on the left is funny with minimal effort. Think i'm a fan already
I think the worst part about the contrast between "Jump scare" vs. "Disturbing/unnerving" scenes in horror is that today's major audience might not like the latter simply because they don't LIKE having fear after the movie. They don't like being scared THAT much, and therefore might not recommend a really deeply horrific film BECAUSE it made them uncomfortable or scared. It's almost like a roller coaster ride for them: they love the ups, downs, and adrenaline rush during the ride, but they definitely won't like it if it followed them after getting off. In my opinion a great horror film -- The Thing, 28 Days Later, etc. -- will force your mind to remember it at the worst of times, when you're alone and it's all dark and the only thing you can hear is your breath. IT (2017) is a fantastic rollercoaster ride! Very stylistic and visually striking as a film. It shocks the audience, but not enough for them to go back home and leave the lights on; just enough to feel spooked but feel normal the next day. I heard some of my friends stating that IT was the scariest film they've seen in a while, but like I said: I think they were just riding an adrenaline ride of fun rather than actually feeling that gut wrenching fear. Now, I'm not saying the original IT is better or that the newer IT is better, or if making horror films into "rollercoasters" is even a bad thing -- sometimes having a movie frighten you for a couple of days isn't the most fun -- but I do believe that's where cinema is taking the horror genre now. Fuck. Why did I spend this much time on a comment no one will read.
Fine, I guess I don't count, but I read the damn comment anyway, and I liked it, it wasn't that good, but it had some good moments and I doubt I will ever remember this comment after I close my browser, but I enjoyed it while I was reading it.
I don't know if "Today's audience" is that apt a term in all honesty. More like just "Audiences". This mentality isn't exactly new. It has prevailed since the dawn of horror. Universal was quick to start turning their horror series' into action, comedy or drama over horror (See the Frankenstein, Mummy and Invisible Man series' in particular for this), this cycle was seen again with series like Friday the 13th or Nightmare on Elm Street generations later. I'm sure you know why as well as I. It's the natural progression of something exiting a niche and entering a mainstream environment. Horror on what a super-fan would call a "Pure" level isn't exactly the most marketable to the broad demographic and the real money of the horror-market has always lied with the "Superficial horror-fans", pardon the rude way of putting it. Hell, light-horror is something I, as a massive horror enthusiast, often encourage, dismissing the notion that all horror should always be unpleasant or even made to be scary. There is great joy in things like the second half of From Dusk Till Dawn or Brain Dead. I guess the problem is just over-saturation. With horror bigger than it's been in years, those that caused horror movies to dry up in the first place are now once again keen on striking the iron and the focus is now on the broad demographic, leaving those with passion for the subtle and surreal to starve. Or maybe it's all just perceptive. After all, quality horror has always been scarce. It's just that now alot of "Standard" horror it is being dumped on our lap at once, so finding the gems takes more effort and makes it just seem like horror is in a worse position than it actually is. Nothing has really changed, just that the scarcity of really "good" horror movies is further punctuated by how much "bad" horror is out there.
Exactly! I'm sucky at describing things, and thats what I've wanted to say. Its the reason people will say "Oh thats just a bunch of a gore!!! Thats not scary, its just stupid gore". As if being kidnapped and tortured and dismembered isn't a horrifying thought. Same reason these people love Hereditary.
Jay seems to have missed that during the scene where Ben is researching Derry in the library you can see an old woman in the background who appears to turn around and stare at him with a creepy grin from the other side of the library. The camera cuts back to behind his head twice and each time she appears to have inched slightly closer to him.
I know right? Creepy imagery, atmosphere and tension building are so passé. Loud noises and musical cues (and random cats jumping into frame) are super scary af.
the beginning of every "scary" scene is actually scary because it starts subtle. like the woman in the painting lingering in the shadows for like 10 seconds or when one burnt disgusting hand slowly comes out of the door. then they just ruin it by over killing it lol
Only sequence that sticks with me from the new IT is when the kid is reading about the history of the town at the library. There's a woman in the background who stares at him from between two bookshelfs. No sounds, no sudden movements, just her (probably Pennywise in disguise) looking at him.
I notice that lady every fucking time! And it’s not even mentioned anywhere! She just stares at him! It’s super creepy, definitely the most on edge I was while watching the movie.
honestly didn't notice this, but that's probably because everything else in the movie was so telegraphed and in the foreground of each shot that i wasn't conditioned to pay attention to anything going on in the background, it is legitimately creepy though, probably the creepiest shot in the whole film
Going back and watching this review.. it's a classic. When Jay makes a bad joke he reminds me of how my dog looks when I catch him pooping in the house.
It's one of those scares that becomes more haunting as it begins to dawn on you that what you are looking at defies any explanation. To this day, when I think about that scene, it scares me just trying to comprehend it. You just see it and sit there as a cold chill climbs up your back.
The part where Pennywise abruptly stops chuckling with Georgie to silently stare at him is genuinely disturbing, so this movie felt like it had its heart in the right place even with all the jump scares.
That scene played well. Some of the other subtle moments worked well also. when Beverly comes in and the television is telling people to "take your friends to the sewer and go inside". That was ruined later by the Henry dad scene of course. I also liked when mike was getting assaulted and saw pennywise watching / waving that child's arm. 98% of the other scares depended on shaky camera and LOUD noises, which is lame.
It's weird to say this, but Tim Curry as the clown was subtle, despite being completely over the top. When Georgie discovers the clown in the storm drain, Tim Curry acts like how a real clown would act, entertaining a kid. The situation of a clown in a storm drain is what's making it creepy despite both the kid and the clown acting normally. Then the clown starts saying weird things but in a cheerful way which causes the back of our minds to tell us something is seriously wrong. THEN that's when the teeth come out. It isn't just a jump scare, loud noise, scare chord or annoying fast-forward editing.
While Tim acts like a real clown, that's not how Pennywise is presented in the book. Him being an otherworldly being with no real physical form, he doesn't fully understand what having one is like, or how to act human and they nailed that aspect in the new film with his eyes looking in two directions/never making eye contact at all, the slow and off speaking pattern, the drooling, and the erratic movements. I would have liked there to not be a loud noise or a silly shot of him like, chomping his arm like a cartoon, but once it's on Bluray it can be easily edited to remove that kind of stuff.
ltflak I see where you're coming from but I actually prefer the new one. He feels much more like an ancient evil entity that's trying to mimic human behaviour and can't help but salivate upon seeing a defenseless kid for him to prey on. I don't dislike Curry's portrayal though, he's also good in his own right. I also liked the arm chomping scene. It's not everyday a horror movie shows a child being mutilated and going into this I'd completely forgotten it was rated R so that caught me off guard.
Well, if I'm remembering correctly, whenever he had the teeth out, wasn't it just an awkward zoom on his face? That's not all that scary either; it's more just over-the-top.
Yeah I haven't seen the new movie yet nor did I have an opinion (naturally) on it before watching this review, but when they showed that part in this video I literally, LITERALLY cringed. Is Pennywise a fan of Lena Headey's portrayal of Cercei Lannister now? "Take I-T."
ltflak Bill skarsgard and Tim Curry are both superb in their own ways. The problem is the loud jump scare noise edit that ends everytime Bill is finished talking
"I'm friends with a ghost on facebook" is the definition of a Japanese light novel title. I swear that's the only time I see a story with the basic plot AS the title, and I think it's hilarious every time.
Human x ghost is pretty popular for a niche subgenre, so yeah lmfao there are plenty of manga, LNs, VNs and anime doing this concept already. I'm not really overly interested, myself. Unless I see r18 on the cover, then I'll buy it
Thats exactly Stephen King in a nutshell. 25 ideas all at once shoved into one Narrative. That and *A LOT* of Cocaine. There's a reason IT is so insane.
To add to a conversation from nearly a year ago, I think that the Jump Scare is bad because it doesn't ring true to the "true" definition of horror. When reading around about Cosmic Horror, I heard one of the best examples of what real horror should be. "True horror in media is when you are afraid to go to bed. It lingers in the back of your mind. It's the kind of horror that makes you instinctively feel like you are not alone in a room, but you aren't afraid to turn around. You can just feel it cast a shadow and be unsettling." That to me, is a good baseline to go for when making a horror movie.
@@hendrickcavvendish6634the books always string you along because he’s got an engaging writing style. Then the book ends and you think about it and it’s like, how did I read all 1,000 pages of something so stupid?
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All that happens at the very end of the credits is Pennywise laughs goofily over the title card. After cleaning that theater multiple times, I've gotten sick of it.
Franklin Barnes I was gonna do the same thing without an end jumpscare GENIUS! kinda. I was gonna do the same but I don't have that kind of money being a kid
Stephen King's It has the potential to be the single scariest horror film ever made, and it never will be, because Stanley Kubrick is dead and the fat cats don't respect you.
TooCooFoYou I don't think he did, but Bev and her dad had a much more intense scene, and bowers had a couple very disturbing scenes that would have probably caused some people to walk out of the movie
Funny enough, King absolutely hated the film adaptation of The Shining. I always found it interesting one of cinemas most beloved films was hated by its original creator
The crazy backstory about the source of the evil is all an homage to H. P. Lovecraft and "The Yog-Sothoth". It's not just cocaine, it's an attempt to write a modern horror novel in the style of Lovecraft, hence the crazy detailed obsession with provincial history.
Jw Nj poorly developed kid characters, a overly sexualized pennywise, unnerving but ultimately hollow because you don't give a shit about the main characters. The shining is a classic because of directing, it's writing on the other hand is weak and pathetic. Jack is insane from the start and does not have a arc, the kid has no real agency, the mother is fucking annoying.
Yeah I get the Jack is crazy from start but you know the movie tells you from the beginning something terrible will happen soon, which is why I always wished Robin Williams took the role.
I always find monsters that stalk you and appear in the background etc. Much scarier than something that jumps out at you because, if it's there I mean you could quite easily just punch it in the face or something which makes it less omnipotent and therefore less scary
Watch that scene where Ben is flipping through the book again. Every time the perspective changes to look at Ben, the librarian who gave him the book is just standing in the background, slightly out of focus, with the most evil smile on her face, getting a little closer with each shot. It's fucking creepy, and subtle enough to make me wonder if I missed some other stuff like that throughout the rest of the movie.
Except it serves no fucking purpose whatsoever. What is the point of having it there if nobody BUT the audience sees it. It's like that stupid cliche in horror movies where the killer's behind the character, but when they turn around it's gone. Tell me what was necessary about it other than "SPOOKY"
Except I'm not shitting on the film, I'm asking a question which you have failed to even answer. You say my argument's retarded, yet you haven't even made a single fucking point. Instead, you raised a straw man and suggested I was complaining about subtlety when I was ASKING what point it is to have that included in the film if it adds nothing to the overall movie.
Ben doesn't need to notice it for it to add tension and suspense to the movie. There's a Hitchcock quote, where he explains suspense, and describes a scene in which two people sitting at a table are having some innocuous conversation, but the audience knows there's a bomb under the table that will explode within minutes. If we decide that something being spooky isn't reason enough to include it in a spooky horror movie, we can also view it thematically. It serves to enforce the idea that there's something wrong with the adults of Derry, they can't be counted on by kids for dealing with this threat. You've got abusive parents, people driving by in a car without giving so much as a stern words to the bullies in the act of mutilating a kid, pharmacists hitting on underage girls, and a creepy librarian hungrily watching a little boy as he reads about a disaster in which dozens of children were blown to pieces. The kids are on their own, nothing else can help them.
The librarian behind Ben freaked me out more than the pictures he was looking at ! In that scene she was in the background all hunched and leery/had Pennywise vibes.
When he said Lake Mungo was the movie he saw that last gave him goosebumps, I jumped out of my chair in camaraderie because that was the last one I saw too that had that affect and I saw it last week. Horror movies dont get to me anymore, they are just fun now if anything but that one reminded me of how I felt when I was 12 and laying in bed with my mind wandering being afraid of having bad dreams about creepy shit I saw in The Ring or something.
last one for me was the strangers. It got me because it felt pretty real. there were things like the record skipping that felt freaky to me. I dont watch much horror though. and that was like 12 years ago. i was less critical back them. would be neat to see it again an see if its still any good to me
@Michael Silve I laughed so hard when they said it was like a Goosebumps movie. That Fortune cookie scene was especially hilariously bad. When they were arguing over the fortunes it felt like a parody of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
I honestly think that the Jump Scare has killed the modern horror format. Many of the scariest horror films of all time didn't have one jump scare and relied on storytelling, mood, and subtleties to create a disturbing atmosphere. Now, people seem to have forgotten the difference between being scared and startled. A quality horror film should stick with you long after it is over because it scared you, this can't happen if all the scares are just loud noises that make you jump. I remember all the best horror films I have ever seen used to make me afraid to leave my room or go outside at night when i was younger they affected me so much... I don't think a film has had an impact on me like that since the first time I saw The Ring 15 years ago.
+tankmaster1018 That's an excessive and overblown conclusion, nothing has "killed" it, good horror movies in the "modern" format you describe come out every year
The exorcist did have a kind of jump scare with "the face" flashing up in a way that you could miss it or notice it in a way that you don't actually pick up on which is still pretty clever to this day. The silence of the dream that goes alongside it adds to the intensity and is then broken by the scream straight after.
There was a few legitimately creepy moments, like the scene in the library in which the librarian seemed to be staring and smiling at the kid but it was out of focus so it was difficult to know if she was or not. Stuff like that worked really well, but the problem is that their wasn't enough of that.
I thought there were a lot of moments that would have been great if the sound track wasn't constantly elbowing me in the ribs and shouting "BOY THIS SURE IS SCARY HUH?!?!" Like when Pennywise appears in the storm drain, or the bit Jay mentioned with the head in the tree, or the scene where the painting comes to life and is kind of only subtly moving. I thought those could all have been legitimately creepy moments if literally the only change you made was to the soundtrack.
MrDamsky100 disagree. I found it just to misdirect. It was clearly frozen like crazy and then just nothing. Is the opposite of a jump scare and i have to agree with the other commenter. Boy o boy the music was a punch to the face.
I liked the librarian staring at Ben in the background, she’s blurry so you’re not supposed to focus on her but it looks like she has a big grin on her face
I haven't seen that, nor looked at any reviews. The moment I saw a trailer I knew it was going to be absolutely terrible, even without trying to compare it to a book.
They are connected already. There are other worlds than these. The turtle that created the world in IT is a beam guardian. "See the turtle, ain't he keen..."
So I watched Lake Mungo. No jump scares as Jay said, and extremely creepy. The very end of the movie gave me the worst feeling of dread. Even through the credits, all of the photos, and the music. That's the kind of stuff that is relatable in a way. It reminded me of the story for Twin Peaks, but honestly, better in a way because it feels like a real documentary.
Love how Jay always randomly throws in good movie mentions in these popular horror movie reviews. This is where I get my horror movie watch list from. so far it hasn't disappointed yet
The loud, stupid audio cue that accompanies every scare in every goddamned modern horror movie is the horror equivalent of the laugh track. The creators of the movie don't have enough confidence in either their own writing or the intelligence of their audience, and so feel the need to tell you "this is the part that's supposed to be scary."
I wouldn't know. I gave up after the third one, and just know the others by reputation. Honestly, from the first three, I think that people go to see them for the same reason that they eat at McDonalds. Nobody actually *wants* it, but it's there, and you know what to expect, and sometimes you just turn off your standards and go to see/eat it
The way I see it, it has to be like this. If they made movies that were legitimately scary, the bozos in the audience might go into cardiac arrest. The world would be a better place, but the studio wouldn't be able to make as much money, so we're stuck.
DefinitelyNotYakra I actually thought the first paranormal activity was done pretty well. It created a real sense of dread and an unsettling atmosphere, I just think it had a really hard time building up to a huge pay off (still better than how Blair witch project ended). I thought the final shot was well done, albeit a little "expected" (in the sense that it was the "horror" movie cliche money shot). Keep in mind it was a film made with a several thousand dollar budget. The second and third were pretty bad in comparison, and had small remnants of what made the first so unsettling, and they had a few clever shots (like the scene with the furniture falling from the ceiling). I didn't see the last one because by then I was checked out.
I know no one's reading this but I gotta get it off my chest. Mike's parents are not dead in the book, that's another huge, unnecessary change by the film.
Fishslap 33 From what I’ve heard, no one was gay in the book, though some people noticed there was some unintentional gay subtext in it. I remember when the 2017 movie came out, I did hear that Richie was going to be gay in an earlier script of the movie, but it was left out in the final version. I admit that since it wasn’t brought up before Chapter 2 it definitely feels like it came out of nowhere, though I guess I was fine with it since I remembered the original rumor.
@@@nerdwarp112 Didn't the guy with asthma need one of the other boys present to be able to perform when they had their teenage orgy? Maybe my mind is going, and it's been decades since I read the book, but I do seem to remember something like that.
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THANK YOU for that shout out to Lake Mungo, I love that movie, it's so underrated as a genuinely scary horror film that also deals fantastically with grief and death.
I love that intro music on the piano, it's the happiest, cheeriest music, when I hear it I feel like I'm about to have a nice meal at a friend's house. It's just perfect.
No, it's a metaphor. He's using the stew as a representation of the movie, not as a reference. A simile is something like "His eyes were like fire" (dangerous, intense, etc.) - it's a comparison of qualities/attributes. If he was saying "The film is like a stew" to imply that the film is warm, comfortable, homely, etc. (or even just "it has ingredients") THEN it would be a simile, but that's not what he was doing. He's using stew ingredients as a substitution for film ingredients in order to illuminate what does and doesn't work. It's a metaphor. I know high school teaches "'like a' or 'as a' = simile, 'is a' = metaphor" but it's not that simple.
I just found this channel recently and I wasnt entirely sure how I felt about it (reviews are typically not my thing) but after the past few days of watching, I knew I really enjoyed them and there content when I got home from a shit day at work and didnt feel relaxed at home till I heard that little piano entry. Fucking grade A content
Finally saw It. Just wanted to say I'm glad you guys pointed out how the sound design ruined what could have been genuinely tense moments. I felt like i was watching an internet screamer video, or that one episode of FREAKAZOID! presented in SCREAM-O-VISION where text that said SCREAM would pop up every time the audience was supposed to be scared
This video helped me with my fear of clowns. I had trouble watching the It movies before, but this video helped me with that so much, by making it funny and not so scary. Now I can watch the old and the new It movies and actually enjoy them and I credit this video as helping me get over my fear. So thanks for the entertainment and for helping me enjoy those movies by helping remove that fear.