www.redlettermedia.com Mike and Jay meet """Rich""" a new employee to Lightning Fast VCR Repair. They decide to see Batman V Superman and talk about it.
The moment batman realises he has almost become the one thing he hates, a monster. Actually a pretty interesting scene. Could have been done better but what are ya gonna do
@@moonlightrouge3956 those aren’t innocent people, martha is. If he were to be the reason an innocent person dies that would make him no better than his parents killer
@@Alexander-hj8vk The idea of Batman thinking he became that which took his parents makes no sense for a simple reason.His parents got killed by a mugger in a botched roberry. Bats wants to kill Supes because he thinks hes too dangerous and threatens humanity( not so subtle allusion to the Dick Cheney 1% doctrine). Does it really seem believable that a guy like that would say 'oh Im just like the mugger who shot my folks'? You may be willing to believe it but I know how ideologues with murderous intent act. Trust me in the real world if they hear Martha they're not gonna stop melodramatically certainly not in this context.
There's nothing black about these markets. You can openly go there and contract viruses escaped from high security labs. It's actually super easy, barely an inconvenience.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
Agreed. I don't really like superman in general and i don't care for a new batman so quickly. It also has a bunch of other characters that maybe cool, but the movie isn't about them. There really isn't much in it for me in the actual movie.
+FlyingOverTr0ut It works so well that I actually watched 80% of their reviews without watching the films. I'm so not following "films" that RLM could totally make them up and it would work just as well.
Copperbeard Plot points weren't so much spoiled (well, they were, but they're so bad that I prefer hearing them versus seeing them myself) as the shockingly bad filmmaking, which I enjoy hearing about. That, and the now famous jar of piss from Lex Luthor.
+luckystriker they're also such delightful jerks to each other with their unflattering edits: see @ 16:31-- ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VGsrMaxx8N4.htmlm31s
+Antonio Wakardo this movie is trash, at least Man of Steel has 1 forcus story. This movie(S) include 5 stories and none goes anywhere. Full of shoehorn.
I know nothing about the source material, but the idea of a mere earthling without any superpowers fighting Superman is ridiculous. Does that come from the comics?
You just don't understand the cinematic markers that Zach Snyder uses! You're a hack fraud who probably fanboys over Christian Bale! It's so obvious that Lex Luthor had a back up plan in case Doomsday won you idiot! It's so obvious that I'm not going to explain it at all! Besides that ending was so awesome! It was awesome when Superman punched Doomsday and used his laser vision! So much more cooler than those stupid old ones! Superman barely punches anything in those!
Why did the ship even have the means to turn a dead Zod into a giant Uruk-Hai Doomsday? Does that come standard? At this point I'll just assume that after Supes died, Luthor was going to milk Doomsy's tits for precious Kryptonian milk and sell it on the Facebooks.
Its like in the Godzilla movies when they wake him up to kill a kaiju and it kills the kaiju and then Godzilla is like fuck you and still destroys buildings but still not as much as Superman
I dunno. Maybe he had some fucking high or low pitched doomsday whistle that got him to stop and run back when it was used? "here doomsdaydoomsdaydoomsday! WHO'S a good BOY? WHO'S a good BOY? You killed superman? Yes you DID! yes you did. Here's biscut!"
Bruce: "Well Alfred, I've been beating criminals to a pulp with my fists every night for the past 20 years, and perfecting hand to hand combat. Now that I'm facing a near-indestructible alien, I think it's time I tried something different..." Alfred: "Master Bruce, are you sure that's wi-" Batman: "A SPEAR!!!!!!!!!!"
+smt2542 yeah because its obviously way easier to kill someone by beating them instead of something to stab them..something long and sharp...from afar for safety... Especially if its a nearly indestructible alien with random superpowers like freezing this dinner's pizza and microwave it to eat the next day... Yeah BRASS KNUCKLES ARE WAY BETTER AND SMARTER!! Like are you for real??
Feels like yesterday. I remember watching this right after I’d seen BVS in theaters. I was so pissed about how the movie turned out and this episode pretty much covered the main reasons why. Hard to believe that was almost five years ago.
Yep. Rich was right about the parsec thing in the Han Solo movie, too, even though Mike scoffed at the idea. Rich is a lot smarter than even he gives himself credit for.
But he also couldn't be Captain Hypocrite, because that implies he's guilty of the same behavior as MurderMan. It's just a joke, not a literal statement of fact. Jokes are often exaggerated for effect.
The Dark Knight Returns’s ending fight with Superman works because Miller spent the whole book setting up their contrasting ideals caused by their different views and roles in a complex Cold War world, and how these two characters already have a relationship spanning decades. That fight had 20 years of in-universe buildup. Miller’s Batman is not a hero, he’s not an Iron Man. It’s not an Avengers type story, it’s an Old Man Logan type story, and you can’t put that character in what was supposed to be the DCEU’s first Avengers movie. You don’t put Old Man Logan in your very first X-men movie.
I would also point out that in "The Dark Knight Returns", neither Superman nor Batman wanted to kill each other. Superman was following orders to stop Batman, and Batman wanted to beat up Superman so that Superman would always remember that he could be beaten.
@@christophzeit6282 I think it’s similar to Cavill. Both Cavill & Affleck would’ve easily become the definitive versions of these characters for decades if they’d had a writing team on par with the DC Animated Universe. Too bad they ended up in some evangelical Randian weirdo’s glorified destruction porn series.
@@kp1x to be fair you need a high IQ to understand batman vs superman it's themes are subtle and nuanced and the average viewer can't even grasp its sheer complexity
Uncle Ben tells Spiderman "with great power comes great responsibility" Momma Kent tells Superman "you don't owe this world a damn thing". Why are we supposed to like this character again?
+SirPoofyPants really glad Snyder never got to make his own version of spiderman. imagine what that'd be like. uncle ben would be like "kill them all peter"
@@CarEdy23 Ben would be there letting himself get shot so that Peter keeps hiding his powers "What was I supposed to do, Aunt May? Let them die?" "Maybe"
@@guyincognito82 After Endgame, I told my cousin I never thought I’d see the day where Marvel looks like they don’t know what to do, while DC is actually showing promise.
The hardest I've ever laughed in my life at a movie theatre is the boob punch scene in Superbad. The second hardest I've ever laughed was this movie when they showed Metropolis and Gotham City SIDE BY SIDE. I swear to God that was a Simpsons gag some editor snuck in somehow.
@@zhengyingli Oh yeah? When was this established as a plan of batman in the movie's narrative? was there any setup? were there any hints of Batman ever planning this out? See, if there was any this would make a lot of sense, but it didn't, it just makes Batman look like a buffoon... And in the spirit of this movie anyway, he already is
Henry Cavil was sitting there like "What the fuck are you talking about Ben, this is the dumbest movie Zack Snyder's ever made, and he made Sucker Punch."
+FullMetal Bat He's like Horror movie James Bond. Likes Aston Martins, banging hot ladies, drinking and killing dudes violently while dressed in a halloween costume. He's kinda like the Casino Royale Bond, just with a costume, a hangup about his parents instead of his girlfriend and even more unhealthy ideas about masculinity ("fear and blood makes you a maaaaan").
"Doomsday is the key to all of this. If we get Doomsday working... because he is a funnier character than we ever had in the other movie." -Zack Snyder
This review summed up: - Mike totally confused - Jay making completely logical points that the film-makers didn't think of - Rich just laughing at how bad it was...
Here's the part that always got me with Superman. He knows. He knows he's fucking terrifying, he knows that what he can do scares people, so how he deals with that is to be the best example of Mr. Truth Justice and The American Way, he smiles at everyone, rescues cats from trees, talks people down from killing themselves because he knows there's more to life than that and that's what makes people like him, he's supposed to be the heart. He takes the hits so his team doesn't have to because he knows that he can. He doesn't show up when people are begging to be saved by slowly floating over them and looking sad. He would save them all as fast as he can, tell them it's going to be alright, flash them a big smile and zip off to help someone else who needs it.
Which is fair enough man aye, that's a smart thing to do, assess a situation before you jump right in; But think about if that scene was done in the Justice League animated show (which everyone compares it to I know but there's a merit for it) first thing you can bet that Superman would do in that show is start talking to the folk as he arrived, letting them know they were gonna be alright, he was gonna help them etc. Now compare that to floating there in moot silence looking as mortified as the people you're there to save. Y'know what I mean man?
Laverne Blaszczyk "it should only take him a tenth of a second to grab one person fly them half way around the world," Superman, at this point of his life, couldn't fly nearly as fast as you're suggesting. Even if he could, the humans he rescued wouldn't be able to survive such a speed without oxygen being sucked out of their lungs.
Seriously they are. I’ve never seen the rise of Skywalker but I’ve seen their 90min+ review of it and it’s hilarious [to me]. 20 years ago I wouldn’t have thought I’d be watching this kinda stuff. I think the best thing about these guys is that they’re not trying to be cool. I hate the fake “Hey how’s it going, aren’t I so happy?” plebs you see all over RU-vid. It’s like a leftover from the TV era
Batman Superman and dark seaman are gonna cry then laugh and then they’re gonna have brunch and do each other’s nails over rose-spritzers and reruns of Dallas
@@frankmerker630 considering how their first Joker is gone, their first Batman is gone, Superman has stand up doubles in certain movies, Batman has stand up doubles even in his own movies in important scenes etc. no, not really. At least I can say for Star Wars that the actors showed up. I can't say that for DCEU.
Imagine the people who don't normally watch RLM come to this review looking for Batman v Superman and get a 5 minute intro of Mike talking about milking Rich Evans.
@@dyl_out She looked over to him at one point, as you can see her eyes twitch off slightly to the side, but she was definitely looking at her, I'd say. Propably doesn't feel great either to hear "I have been given such a huge opportunity to show the strong, beautiful side of women" as not only the undoubtedly better actress, but also as the one that has played a recurring character in these movies, whereas Gadot hadn't yet xD
20:30 Lex: _"You know the oldest lie in America, senator? Devils don't come from hell beneath us. They come from the sky."_ Who the f*ck says THAT, Lex?
You weren't supposed to question it! For MoS, people complained Superman didn't do enough to protect people during the fight, so they made it painfully obvious in BvS that no one is in danger. If we hear of emergency filming for Justice League tomorrow that just consists of random people throughout the ages all saying Lex's line, I'm blaming you.
God I fucking hate it when I go re-watch a scene from the movie to make sure that what I question about the movie is truly valid, some pretentious asshole comes out of nowhere and tells me that I need to have a high IQ to understand Snyder films. They are equivalent to fucking rick and morty fanboys
@@KneelB4Bacon What LeadFaun is saying is that the lie Lex Luther refers to is that "devils come from hell and hell is below the surface of the earth", not that "devils come from the sky". The idea of evil being below earth is common enough that he does not have to restate it; instead he presents his assertion that demons come from the sky. A longer version of his statement would be "The oldest lie in America is that devils come from hell beneath us. Devils don't come from beneath us; they come from the sky." I have no clue how that is the oldest lie in America, though. I think the idea of hell being subterranean is Christian.
Ironically, Frank Miller (who wrote many of the stories this film mis-adapts and references) hates the concept of "realistic" superheroes, or the "what if?" scenario this film is built around.
Yeah, despite being known for his "dark and gritty" interpretations of Daredevil and Batman, Miller never actually abandoned the fantasticism and humor associated with traditional comic book stories. The Dark Knight Returns featured the Joker riding around on a flying doll that shouted insults and spewed toxic laughing gas.
The fantastic elements weren't abandoned. Did you not notice kryptonite gas bombs, Doomsday, Batwing, batarangs, heat vision, time traveling Flash, 5000-year-old Amazon women, etc.? Nolan's movies were limited to the "realistic" elements, not Snyder's who FULLY embraces all the comic book elements. He even was the first director to not give Batman a black suit. The ridiculous, bogus criticisms of this movie never end.
jedijones Sure he didn't ABANDON those elements. But that's precisely the problem. He's telling this story set in "our" world (cameos by real-world celebrities reacting to the Superman crisis, real world chains, etc.) but without conforming to the real world's rules. He's trying to make a silly, over-the-top comic book movie set in a sci-fi/fantasy world while also telling a "Watchmen"-like "what if heroes existed in our real world?" story at the same time
I'm starting to think the Joker is actually a really easy character to portray, because not only has (almost) every actor that's portrayed him done an amazing job, but even actors playing other villains (Jim Carrey Riddler, Tommy Lee Jones' Two-Face, Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor, Ewan McGregor in the Birds of Prey movie) seem to do a good job at playing the Joker as well. Maybe it's just not a difficult role to play in the slightest (and yet somehow Jared Leto managed to fuck it up)
I think it's because joker as a character is really flexible and most professional actors can find a way to interpret him in a manner that fits their acting style.
Just put on something purple even it’s just a tank top, then paint your face with a hint of green in your hair, laugh maniacally in a high pitch for no reason while maybe throwing in a George Orwell Quote and then have your mom make you a joker costume
Remember seeing a sign outside a picture house once it read what the movie was but underneath someone had scrawled :- You'll laugh , You'll cry , You'll -Kiss 6 bucks Goodbye !
Mr. Plinkett needs to actually do a proper review of this movie. DC was boasting in a press release about how they were concerned about Marvel fan's 'not getting it, since BvsS was a thinkin' man's super-hero movie'. And uhm....yeah, Dawn of Justice did not fit into that category. Not even by the loosest definition available.
+valcliff b THIS Episode 7 was too decent to get a Plinkett review. But then again, they announced the Plinkett review before Batman v Superman came out. I think nobody thought it was going to be THAT bad.
I don't think Mike cares enough about superhero movies to do a plinkett review of it haha. Star Trek Beyond tho? I can definitely see one coming for that.
"Mr. Plinkett needs to actually do a proper review of this movie." If you guys can do it right away you might have some (tiny) affect on future DC movies. Naw.... I'd like to see this anyway.
Marvel does make dumb, forgettable, formulaic movies. You're right about that. Zack and these writers put together a fascinating story and screenplay in BVS that is so much more deep, thoughtful and intelligent than what Marvel does. The non-Marvel Studios movies like Spider-Man 2 and the best X-Men films are the only superhero movies to come close to this intelligence level.
I would like to see Superman & Batman films as a period pieces. That would work. Set it in the 30’s and you could do a shiny happy Superman and noir Batman.
And that could be really funny and interesting if you make them truly bizarre opposites in terms of social class and power levels. Nearly two different genres, type of thing. Superman is a young-up-and-comer, with big dreams for the big city, taking along his big heart from Kansas. He has lazy-omnipotent power, so he's generally an optimist who tries to help people and sees the good in everyone. You know, in a 30's way. "Ya know, a young buck like you oughta work in the newsies." A poor but plucky reporter who always does the right thing. Batman is an old money-turned-cynical Private Investigator type, the privileged but now cynical rich kid dealing unsuccessfully with the dirty gangsters who have eroded his town now that Prohibition is in effect. He sees dirty cops, dirty criminals, dirty workers, dirty owners. He feels like nobody is clean, including himself. He has money and power and street smarts and karate, but he's becoming more and more jaded about the human condition and what to do about it. A wealthy man struggling to fight a losing battle against an increasingly dark world. Now why would they clash? *THAT* would be a movie that I'd want to watch.
So around the 33-34 minute mark they start joking about how DC should just get Marvel to make their movies, and laugh at the idea of Zack Snyder splitting the job of directing with somebody else... Are they seers?
@@JM-mh1pp I disagree, snyderman is a fucking aberration of Superman that shouldn't exist with his same name. Captain America is Captain America. To clarify, saying that Marvel has done a good Superman with him is as bad as saying that DC has done a good Captain America with Superman, they may share a few similarities but at the end of the day they are different characters, and that's where my problem lies and not on the quality of Captain America. As a matter of fact I quite like the guy.
That photographer that gets executed by the terrorists in the beginning is Jimmy Olsen. Snyder's explanation for this is that "there's no room for Jimmy but we can still have fun with him, right?" -literal quote. Fuck this movie.
My favourite part was the politics, at the big White House government building, that really sold me on all this being real their wasn’t enough diversity with the government officials people though, it’s not proper representation of our world. I’m just glad we can star a conversation about more gay men in politics, that would be very good for eveyone, because equally is better than bigotry! 3/5 stars
Hmm not really, its pretty commonly known that the flash has time travel capabilities. Time travel and the speed force are like the 2 main things that almost every good flash storyline is about.
That's because Rich has the exact same ability to run faster than the speed of light and traveled into the future and back. So he knows by first hand experience that it was so.
I actually want Snyder to direct Justice League. That thing is going to be epic. I mean, you basically have an egocentric hypocritical alien and a murdering psychopath founding something called the "Justice League". That's like if Hitler and Genghis Khan founded the UN. They would probably nuke entire countries from orbit using the Watchtower.
What's going to stop them going forward from just establishing a dictatorship over the world? They clearly have no qualms about murdering people or destruction.
+Noisemaker50 you know, maybe this is all set up for the Justice Lords. Then when their justice league movie happens, the real justice league from another earth will stop them and save the franchise.
BigBossTooN I would forgive everything about how badly they fucked up Superman as a character in these movies if they reveal in a twist that he's actually Hank Henshaw. That would be fucking brilliant.
This is without a doubt one of the best videos RLM has ever produced, which is incredible bc they've remained consistent for years at this point. But this video stands out. I come back to it a couple times a year for that reason
@@jbbrolic Honestly if they were smart, they should’ve just had Eisenberg do his Zuckerberg performance again lol, like that was way more like Luthor than whatever the Lex is this movie is supposed to be
As a woman, I completely agree with Jesse Eisenberg’s unconvinced head nod to that bs fluff Gal Gadot was spouting. “A huge opportunity to show the strong, beautiful side of women, *finally.*” I don’t even know what she’s talking about.
A couple of weeks before BvS came out, I just randomly realized that B and S both had moms named Martha. It was a neat coincidence, but I shrugged it off, because no official media had yet made a big deal out of it, so why should I? Ah, the innocence of youth...
That save Martha scene really piss me off especially when Louis had to run after him and explain to Batman Who Martha is to Superman and I was like Superman couldn't have said that himself I obviously knew Bruce didn't know that Superman had A mom also named Martha he thought he was saying that about his mom which of course Bruce will of course going to freak out but Louis being there made no sense that Martha scenes sucks after that Batman goes and kills people what the fuck!
Only now re-watching this did I notice that the Beatles' "Martha" plays 24:43. This is so beautifully subtle that in this moment I have the goofiest smile goddammit!
If the story takes elements from 'The Dark Knight Returns' comic series and had Frank Miller as a consultant, chances are *Spoilers:* The new Joker turns out to a psychotic Dick Grayson w/a super fast healing factor
