Halo 3's Strange Ending FINALLY EXPLAINED 

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I can't rap my head around what m-bias and high charity have in common. Like I know he's kind of there, but how and why

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Man, to this day. I really wanted to see Mendicant Bias so badly, so many thigs we wanted to see him since Halo 2 and 3 including the forerunner trilogy novel. Hope someday we'll see him in Halo 7 because that one shot in the trailer got me interested. I want to see Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias, because when you mention the similar lore for Cortana and Weapon, now it makes me wanted to see those two characters in the game. But man, Xperia you made these videos amazing.

I CLAPPED WHEN I HEARD MENDICANT BIAS!!!!

i saw your profile pic and thought, When did i leave a comment?

@@SobBaget602 😂It's the best halo Reach artwork around!

Fr bro

Which in turn will likely dissuade 343 from using him. Only the most hardcore Halo fans, from the original trilogy long ago, know who he is. Making him the center of any game hurts appeal to casual gamers.

Honestly Infinite's biggest failure when it comes to the Campaign is not touching on anything in the Forerunner Trilogy, I still love the Campaign but it's actually wild that we had an entire open world game set on Zeta Halo that had almost 0 references to the Primordial, Faber, Mendicant Bias, the Flood etc. etc.

I would love for them to include deeper lore. They just need to make it understandable if someone hasn't read into all the lore too. If someone didn't read/watch the fall of reach, they would've had no idea who blue team was in H5

@@HiddenXperia I was so excited for that too. I kept thinking that at any moment we would go deeper and deeper into the ring and find traces of the Palace of Pain, the battles fought there, or lingering evidence of the Primordial. Especially since it opens strong with those echoes of Cortana, which gave me hope we would also get some echoes, if you will, of the deeper lore. But we never did. I loved the gameplay and had hopes maybe the DLC would take us there, but as you know, that's probably not going to happen. I try to keep hope that Microsoft and 343 can work through their issues internally and we can get back to some legit Halo lore and not just leave it all behind.

Halo Infinites Legendary Ending hinted to me that they are finally bringing in deep lore stuff into the games. Things like the Precursors, Neural Physics, Mendicant and Offensive Bias, Bornstellar, etc.

RIP Greg Bear

I think the Endless are the final test.

​@@jakespacepiratee3740God I hope not.

@@Mr.KittensAndGibberish Why not? They are Precursors. Before them, literally the only other species that can use Neural Physics is the Flood, but the Endless use it stronger.

​@@jakespacepiratee3740the endless ain't the precursors dude, who told you that? Haha

@@jakespacepiratee3740 I don’t think the Endless will be anywhere near as cool or terrifying as the Flood. In CE, we saw the Flood be introduced, we were shown how horrifying it is, and what it is capable of. The Harbinger wasn’t even that big of a threat when Chief faced her.

There's a lot to look into! Bungie, and 343 to a lesser degree, put a lot of easter eggs and little details in the games that leave a LOT of questions. Some we can find in the material, some we have to make up ourselves. But it's all in the fun of being a community of fans.

​@@crystallakedooddon't forget Frank O Connor and Bonnie Ross for expanding the universe. 👍

Too bad bungie couldn’t do it themselves. Instead they need people to write a story for them.

​@@FXIIBeaverBungie si pudo hacerlo por sí mismo, nadie le escribio la historia.

@@anthonyortiz45 ok?

I love a good youtube

​@@HiddenXperia I need a video

My favorite part is when he says “it’s Youtubin time” and he RU-vids all over my subscription feed

@@HiddenXperiadon’t know if you’ll reply but I distinctly remember it was only the Milky Way Galaxy they infected, and later the surviving forerunners left the Milky Way in atonement and nonintervention. However i don’t remember that it was ever confirmed that the flood infected other galaxies during the time they left the galaxy during the ancient humanity war. Or even succeeding in fleeing the galaxy when the rings were fired. However I do remember a passage saying in the books about the forerunners leaving to attempt to find any more traces of the flood, but never If they found any. I know it’s been speculated but never heard it being confirmed officially. Just wondering because you said “infected galaxies and galaxies” when in the books it was really just the Milky Way. And didn’t think that’s canon unless they released something new about this.

@@HiddenXperia you got the lore wrong about forunners in the original bungie lore the forunners were the ancestor of humanity even guilty spark called master chief a forunner meaning that yes in the bungie lore forunners were humans but 343 industry retconned the entire lore.

You mean the 343 part of the lore?😂 foh. This shit is not endorsed by Bungie and is garbage

So true

Would be interesting how the endless also play into this

I dont think 343 knows what to do besides ask Bungie; if they did that it would be some kind of embarrassing, so they won't. Furthermore, Bungie probably stopped plotting after they were out bought....

It was literally their worst game they aren’t bringing them back. Halo plays better with a light story

Squidwards descendant 💀😂

343 has no idea of what they're trying to tell. Retconning humans being forerunners was a massive mistake. If you ask me, Halo 3 was the end of the main Halo saga, they just had to switch to the arbiter for games set after H3 and to other spartans before Reach. But no, they chose to keep a finished story going without a strong plan and retconning a bunch of stuff, including the final reveal of Halo 3 (Guilty-Spark revealing humans are the Forerunners). Only way to save the story at this point is to go the Halloween 2018 way, keep the strong story (1-2-3) and reboot the rest (4-5-6).

@@dearcastiel4667 cringe

@@Lazypackmulecringe?

@@dearcastiel4667 Honestly, yeah, it might be healthy to split the universe into 2 different branches, one for the legacy plans with the universe and one for whatever the hell 343 wants to do.

They’ve generated goodwill? I’ve been under the impression that they have only managed to mitigate their own fuck ups at best.

@@spartan8090basically the gist of it is that like the half of the dev team that didn’t actually like halo left/was let go, and 343 is trying to hire again. Meanwhile, the campaign stuff for Infinite has been put on hold while they work w the sandbox and getting halo infinite back to a state where players both a)enjoy playing the game and b) they work on refining the sandbox and trying to go somewhat back to the roots of halo gameplay(I.e. infection coming back and just look the reception Husky Raid got). A lot of people have been enjoying the changes the 343 devs have made, and insofar it looks like some people might be actually starting to look forward to the idea of Halo getting a sort of “resurgence” with the refocus and reforming of the dev team

@@JesperVille I appreciate what you’ve said, but honestly until I see some results I’m not holding my breath for anything good. They’ve screwed the pooch to much for me to be lenient.

@@spartan8090 The problem is a lot of people try and say it's going to be better because the leadership were all fired and the people that replaced them include the guy who "saved" MCC. The same guy who worked at EA for 6 years and tried to add microtransactions to MCC. Basically, the Halo community is always in a state of hopium that never pays off and just makes their addiction hit harder each time hoping "THIS time they'll understand what they did wrong".

@@Freelancer837 Which is exactly why I'll wait for the results to either prove me wrong for doubting them or vindicate my distrust even further.

I always thought the song Atonement was referring to forerunners regretting their actions that led to the extinction of ancient humanity and creation of the flood. But I like the theory of it being Mendicant Bias's atonement for his betrayal.

Im into the elder scrolls lore and I was into Halo lore up until halo 4 when the lore got a little messy. And people have been talking about a flood horror game for years. The Halo franchise is so big, it can be other things than just an FPS action game.

isn't

@@PeteNice29no I’m sorry, doesn’t is correct

Nice reference

They had the entire thing set up perfectly and decided to drop it for 0 reason, extremely extremely frustrating

Feels so depressing. Maybe there is hope for 343i with new management, but it will take an extremely long time for the studio to win back even a modicum of our trust and respect. In all honesty, I've stopped caring cause I keep feeling like I'm preaching to the quire.

LMAO😂 idk why these “content creators” still talk about this garbage so much. I really hope they sell the rights and start over from the end of Halo 3 and go with Bungie’s vision for the lore

@@brettgill6065 Because they care about the franchise maybe.

@@aztumtheknightofwumbo7060 if they cared about the franchise, then they would quit validator 343’s shlock that they call “lore.”

​@@brettgill6065"wahhh wahhh bungo goneee me no understand New lore"

He has all of the halo 3 heroic/legendary terminals to himself, so he definitely has appeared, it's just that most people don't know about it

343 wont do shit, they want to scrap the flood from halo for good with the endless

They already said there's no campaign DLC, what we got in Infinite is it.. there is no more story going further

@@subsume7904 I’m well aware no one mentioned campaign DLC. I’m talking as in books (which they’ve been doing well) and the next game theyll eventually make. Wether it takes another console generation before we get another halo game is another story😂.

@@user-bv7zo6vd4m yeah mis worded it, he’s never been directly mentioned by name outside of the h3 terminal where he leaves a message for chief and even that was just a terminal.

I was about to say this, with chief wandering around the desert like that could've been cortana's way of her somehow contacted the chief so he went awol to hunt the truth of it all since the didact survived that nuke she should have too. And tbh that false marketing would've made halo 5 probably on par with 3 since the story was shit, but the multiplayer was good. Hell, if they had chief wear the old armor first instead of "nanomachining" him in the new artstyle one that would've dealt with one of the consistency issues the company has.

Have you by chance see the animated storyboards for the original halo 2? By C3 Sabertooth Halo?

@@Jaker788 Yeah its not good as it would have made us miss out on Halo 3.

Both of those characters were introduced in and have most of their character locked to the books to begin with, a game player would have no idea who they are beyond "oh yeah, that angry bird orc guy from Halo 4 who wanted to genocide humanity because he was evil"

@@Lazypackmule lol just find the Terminals in Halo 4 and youll know why he hates Humans. Its in the game. Not that hard to find out.

@@dweaver8837 Yeah nobody remembers those dude

@@Lazypackmule Fr, most people don't even remember what happened in the Librarian cutscene because of how much of an exposition dump it was, letalone remembering the terminals which were more of that same thing. Then there's the fact that all this lore is a retcon of everything from before Halo 4 anyway

@@Freelancer837 Not really a retcon, just a recontextualization from the original implications Also the Halo 3 terminals were so info-dense and dissociated from the main plot- not to mention entirely text- that they also had this problem, people only remember parts of them because they were important enough that lore videos won't shut up about them, compared to the 4 terminals just explaining book stuff

Bungie Forerunner Lore: "hooman r 4runner mmkay?" 343 Forerunner Lore: Precursors, the Endless, Humans and Forerunners once being one species, Neural Physics, Living Time, Star Roads, The Maethrillian, Geas or Genesongs, Prometheans, the Domain, the Guardians, Bastion, Ancient Human Empire, War Sphynx, The Composer, The Original Halo Array, the Greater Ark, Fortress Ships, The Builder Caste, Bornstellar, Guilty Spark is an Ancient Human.

@@History_PodcastFinalAssignment And because of this, we cannot be surprised and in awe anymore. Having so much explanations and lore killed any possibility of surprise for the narrative of Halo games.

The initial plot twist was going to be that the “Forerunners” were ancient humans but I think it was Bungie themselves that retconted this. The reason that the Arbiter’s story arc just kind of ends after halo 2 is because the big revelation was removed from the end of Halo 3. What was going to happen was that while on the Ark, Arbiter was going to find a Forerunner burial site full of ancient, untouched sarcophagi. He was then going to open up one of them and find a Human skeleton. This being the moment it’s revealed that the “Forerunners” *are* humans. For the Arbiter this is the final nail in the coffin for his mixed feelings of the Covenant, the moment he realises for the entire Human-Covenant war they’ve been killing the people (or the descendants of the people) they revere as gods. And this revelation is still partially in Halo 3 with Guilty Spark saying to MC at the end “you are the reclaimers of all they left behind. You *are* Forerunner”.

In the Bungie lore, humans are forerunner. The "problem" with this lore is that the story arc is complete. There's no real need for a sequel to the narrative of John 117. That is a branding problem as Chief has always featured in main series Halo games - I think they would have done fine following other Spartan 2s, Halsey (how did she get out of that empty shield world or subspace world thing with the other survivors of reach?) etc. there was plenty for them to play with without having to create a continuation of Halo 3's narrative. But ... They did... Eliminating prior factions is a branding problem, as well. A halo where you aren't fighting some Covenant... Is it even Halo? So completely shifting the narrative onto a new faction to fight with is a branding problem. That means the most sound solution is to rework the existing factions and conflict and do some retcons to logically extend the narrative. Thus, the forerunner were different from humanity, and the writers ventured more into the realm of science fantasy than hard scifi... So... We get gene songs, Cortana popping out of a light bridge to fight the didact, and other things that made me kind of stop paying attention to the series, entirely because it reads like a high schooler was given narrative authority over fanfiction by committee and said committee is barely constraining the "rule of cool".

I agree, except that I always thought it was Cortana atoning for her mistakes rather than Chief 🤔

@@RhysMogg Ooo, it's a double entendre

Daring today, are we?

MCC is on sale for 10 bucks right now. Go play the old Halo games. Lmao.

There will never be a hyped release like Halo 3 ever again.

I mean Bungie couldn't either, there's just too much to handle not to mention there's still a large portion of the community who will complain about having to buy books to understand the story.

Why do we need them in a 6th Halo game?

This never would have been bunnies original idea for 1 reason: Bungies original lore made it VERY VERY VERY clear that Humans and Forerunners are literally the same species. Like they could not have spelled that out more and yet somehow the one idiot who worked for Bungie at the time was chosen to be the fucking franchise director and writer.

@@phanto6599 Who cares? The 343 Forerunner Lore is SO much more interesting, almost shakespearean then the bland and overdone “aliens are humans” thing. That single sentence is really all the thought Bungie gave the Forerunners. Hell, a Terminal in Halo 3 has the Librarian find Humans on Earth…so, I guess it wasn’t explicitly stated super clearly.

@@jakespacepiratee3740 Yeah I'm gonna straight up disagree with you. I don't find any of 343's lore particularly engaging.

​@@Agora2021 have you read the forerunner saga? I hate 343 but some of the books we've gotten have been INCREDIBLE.

@@jakespacepiratee3740a lot of us care, actually. and the terminals were written by fuck-o conner, so you cant count those as lore at all

Agreed

Yeah, not to mention flood was reintroduced in I think halo Wars 2 which means it could still happen but at the same time the covenant has almost been reduced to nothing.