Yeah, I normally play halo 3 multiplayer on mcc or halo infinite multiplayer, but I still play halo ce like once or twice a month, just playing my favorite missions, messing around, sometimes just watching the covenant and flood go at it
I still think Halo CE is one of the best Halo games of all time. I'll never forget the introduction to the Flood. You see dead bodies of the covenant, blood covering the walls. You ask yourself. "What happened here? I haven't been through here recently, what's wiping out the covenant forces?" Then you press onward and you see this weird yellow blood or substance dripping from the ceiling, you'd ask yourself. "What is that? That isn't from the covenant so what is it?" Then you go up the elevator and see it on the elevator as well. You eventually find the scared marine in a room, and he shoots at you, scared for dear life, then as you go the next room you find the dead marines and watch the footage of the video, you still have questions about everything that happened, but you now know something about the potential threat, but whatever questions you have must be put on hold as the Flood break down the doors looking for their next target, which is Masterchief, aka you. So your objective is to run and survive, find somewhere safe so you can assess the situation before moving further until you meet 343 Guilty Spark.
Even knowing the surprise that is to come, it still leaves my mind in awe. The flood is a wonderful foe that adds so much to the games, we need them back
@@theWheezywheezy I just wanna say I love your videos your the best in this ‘genre’ the shots you get with the music in the background broken up with clips I really do believe you could make a solid director, because you clearly understand atmosphere
The problem with the flood comes after their introduction. I feel people focus so much on 343 guilty spark and ignore everything that comes afterwards, which involve replaying previous maps in a reversed order or in the case of the Library, doing the same objective for what feels like an hour whilst dealing with respawning flood who could wield a rocket, or a flood carrier form being launched in your direction and 1-shotting you. The flood introduction was great, but fighting them was a step down compared to the Covenant or even the forerunners sentinels.
Infinite’s story felt so pointless. Like what actually changed by the end of the game? All we did was stop something from happening, we didn’t really make any kind of change
You never really change anything in ANY Halo game. In CE, 2 amd 3 you're just stopping the flood from taking over and stopping the Covenant. You jever actually change anything, that all happene off screen.
Regarding the gun balance, I want to talk about something very important you missed. (Long comment, bear with me). Infinite has a pretty complex system for enemies where they have Energy Shields/Armor Plating/Health. Shields and Health are self-explanatory. Armor plating, on the other hand, are specific armor modules localized on parts of an enemy's body that can be shot off. So, in order to deal full damage to a brute, you'll need to shoot the chest armor off and then repeatedly shoot the chest. If you shoot off the chest armor, then hit the head, your bullets will do reduced damage as the head armor is still intact. Unlike shields, which block damage, armor plating simply REDUCES damage. I hope I explained it well enough. Either way, some enemies in Infinite have no armor or shields. Some have shields, but no armor (all elites). Some have armor but no shields (low level brutes). Some have both (high level brutes). The reason this is important is because Infinite's gun balance is based heavily around this system, with individual guns and bullets being tuned to effect different things more. You said the needler felt weak- well, that's just wrong. Infinite's needler is one of the strongest and most useful needlers in the series (in campaign, not talking about PVP). Why does it feel weak then? It's because supercombining DOES NOT WORK against shields. Doesn't matter how many you land, the needler will literally do piss all against energy shields. It, on the other hand, will obliterate armor plating and health. This creates scenarios where a needler in Infinite will absolutely obliterate Brute Chieftans but do jackshit against low level Elites. It's because the Needler is specifically designed to destroy armor plating and health, whereas in previous games it worked against mostly everything. Another example of this is hardlight weapons- they work well against shields and health, but work poorly versus armor plating. This makes them good for killing Elites (Shields, no Armor) and Grunts (No Armor/No Shields) but poor versus Brutes (Every Brute has some level of Armor plating). This system, though complex and very good for balance (IMO) isn't explained or indicated anywhere in-game. Everything I've mentioned above is also just me extrapolating info by just playing the game. There is NO WAY a player will know about this on a first playthrough, which is a problem as it makes certain weapons such as the Needler and Disruptor VERY INCONSISTENT.
The problem with this type of gun balance is that it becomes annoying to see certain enemies and weapons. It becomes even more annoying when certain weapons you use seemingly do nothing knowing their niches or not. In previous games I can use a needler and be happy using it against pretty much anything. The floor for entry with weapons vs enemies was close to the ceiling. If I had a needler vs an elite ok cool. If I had a needler vs a knight oh that’s good. Certain weapons definitely did better than some in scenarios but mostly nothing felt downright useless. Only cases where it felt pitiful was something like using a sniper against the flood. In infinite this isn’t the case. So many weapons fail to go against so many different things that it just becomes unfun. The floor fell into a hole while the ceiling stayed where it was.
Only issue with CE is the levels repeating and the lack of direction. I STILL get lost on some CE missions like 20 years of playing it. Halo 3 is my favourite but even that had repeating/reused levels.
CE somehow takes the win in multiple categories even if detached from all nostalgia. This not only speaks to Bungie's skill as designers but also how shoddily Infinite's campaign was unfortunately made.
Played Halo Reach with a grapple hook mod felt like whip cream on cherry pie Playing Halo infinite with a grapple hook felt like whipped cream with a cherry somewhere
Halo Combat Evolved is a rare game where you can’t really add or remove anything without breaking the game. It is basically perfect in what it sets out to do. Halo Infinite is more ambitious, but it also has way more stuff that the game could benefit from cutting down. I really don’t like replaying it that much even when the gameplay is really fun.
Ambitious? With 9 years of developement until today for desync, toystory-esque looking plastic graphics, 10 usd for color blue, no cross core customization, terrible customization, the worst battlepass, no legacy modes added but 2 years after release Idk,
ive played halo ce like 20 or 30 times... but halo infinite just once.... it didnt give me that feeling of keep playing .... it lacked alot of big moments to make me go through it again.... but halo ce , 2 and 3 had them...and 4 too not as much as others but it did....
I don’t hate it. I actually loved it upon first playing it. I still like it, but replaying it is where it gets stale real quick for me. So much potential that was untapped.
Halo infinite campaign felt like we skipped half the story. What about the beginning of the Battle of Installation 07. Team Osiris, Roland, Evil Cortana’s Human-AI War after the Infinity escaped at the end of Halo 5, Swords of Sanghelios, Dr. Halsey, Blue Team, even the Arbiter. Where are they after the end of Halo 5?! 343 is stupid for this! Leave us at a cliffhanger then skip that entire plot showing us the very end of that arc. That’s why Halo Infinite is a complete failure! I was so HYPED for that Human-AI War and now I’ll never experience it. 😭
I was hyped for them to retcon Halo 5 and undo the damage they did to Cortana’s character (pretending Evil Cortana never existed). Of course that didn’t happen either. We both got screwed
Halo CE from start to finish had weight, and endless imagination left to be had. The only gripe i have is i wish we could move like a real spartan. This was the 9nly good thing about Halo 5.
If we have a CE remake I hope it combines some events in the books and Fireteam raven. But most importantly I know they will/have to fix CE's biggest issues: the second half repeat of levels.
The campaigns of *Halo: CE Anniversary* and *Halo: Infinite* are very fun to play in my opinion. Then again, I play most of the campaigns on Normal difficulty for a balanced and realistic experience. Two things I would love to see is a 2-part campaign DLC for *Halo: Infinite* like what DOOM Eternal did, and a *Halo 3: Anniversary* for MCC. ❤👍🏻
I'm going to be honest... I'd rather replay Infinite's campaign over Combat Evolved's campaign. I didn't enjoy playing through Assault on the Control room because it felt dragged out for too long, and the forerunner architecture was beginning to get repetitive with the same style of crude shapes and blue veins cut into the stone having been shown to us for 5 missions with zero explanation as to what it is. I did enjoy the introduction of the flood, but the library was a nightmare to play through and things only got better once I reached the level Keyes and then the maw. I've played through about half of infinite's campaign so this might be biased (but wheezy admits to bias in his video so I guess it's even) the banished feel more fun to fight than the covenant did in CE, the new weapons and equipment offer me new ways to approach a situation that would've otherwise been bland in CE, and the story got me interested in the new banished enemy as well as the endless, even if a little disappointing at times. I'm not saying one game is better than the other, but I made this comment so people could realize that not everyone agrees on the same thing. Some people enjoy Infinite more than Combat Evolved, while others may prefer Combat Evolved over Infinite, and that's alright. I just wanted to share my thoughts on both campaigns.
you forgot about the skimmers and skirmishers. I will say, Infinite's banished are by far the most fun the enemies have been to shoot at in the entire franchise, second place being CE, and I thought that wasnt possible
Halo CE will Always remain my favourite Halo to play and the best of the 3. I bloody pestered my dad into buying me an OG Xbox Just for this game when we already had a PS1&2.. He came home 2wks later after work with a preowned Xbox, Halo CE & Kotor1 😭😭 The mystery, the music, the weapons, the landscape/biomes, the enemy A.I, The Flood reveal, The Library is one of my most favourite Halo Campaign levels as nuts as that sounds.. Especially on Heroic with a few skull additions. Me, a shotgun, AR and loads of grenades. The final effort run to the Longsword and the music amping the crap outta you.. Assault on the Control Room.. Silent Cartographer.. Gahhhd!! Halo 2 & 3 are special in their own ways, too, but Halo CE just hits harder. Infinite was OK for the 1st 3 or 4 missions until the big energy drill mission with the Brute Gravity Hammer boss fight, but the story was dreadful again from 343, retconning what they did in the last game just like with Halo 4 and resurrecting Cortana only to massacre our girl in 5 and Infinite. The Weapon is fine with me. I like a new younger naive Cortana, and I like brohammer too. I'm just upset because they failed BIG TIME to deliver on a lore-infested Halo ring such as Zeta Halo. No dlc, nothing. And I imagine the next Halo game will recon all of Infinite and put Chief somewhere else off-screen in a timeskip.
Its actually sad cause the book for infinite is one of the best halo books we've gotten. It was a awesome blend of Reachs mood of loss of hope and paired with some amazing ass characters.
I would say play infinite I you want to go around and just have brainless fun, while play ce if you want to see a more compelling story. Both games can make some great memories but for opposite reasons.
The easiest solution to have a campaign and an open world is to just leave us to our own devices on the Halo Ring and give us a sub menu where we can select and play missions at will in a quest tab. I don't know why no developer has done this yet because it'd allow us to have a streamlined campaign experience and an open world to mess around with after we finish the main story. Separating both experiences will lead to an objectively better game. The open world is a sandbox, the campaign is trying to tell a story, separating them should be a no-brainer.
Halo Infinite did a lot of things good when it came to the gameplay, mechanics, and general feel. But what really killed me was how confined and almost trapped I actually felt in this "Open World". I also hated hearing about how the speedrunner community also damn near got euthanized with patches "fixing" these exploits for whats supposed to be a Solo/Co-op story experience. Overall, Halo Infinite was good for what it was trying to do. It had just fallen over itself over its own hype, and the over hype that us fans also gave it.
Yeah, I never understood why Halo infinite didn’t have more biomes, like desert, snow, jungle, swamp biomes. There’s no excuse as they had plenty of time and enough money since they are backed by Microsoft. Didn’t they spend $500 million on infinite? Lol what a waste
The fact that advanced movement in HALO of all things has been used and continually implemented is my biggest issue with 343 Halo. And it's funny because infinite markets itself as a return to form, yet has more of an emphasis on advanced movement then halo 5, with the fast recharging grappleshot& and slide tech. I hope halo 7 dodges the cookie cutter, unfun and generic movement we see in 99% of modern shooters.
The grapple is a really fun addition tho in my opinion and the other forms of movement expansions in Infinite are also solid. I don’t have a problem with advanced movement as long as it’s done well. I feel like Infinite is building advanced movement with the thought of expanding what made Halo fun whereas it was 5 that more-so just added tons of advanced movement filler because it was “in”. Instead of all of this “spartan charging” and “ground pounds” and silly stuff like that in 5 you get a lil bit of slide mechanics, grapplehooks, optional equipment like dashing, etc in Infinite. As much as I still love playing the older Halo games like 2, 3, ODST, the base movement was always the weakest aspect of those games imo. Whats wrong with some more depth to how you move around if its done well? Games like Doom Eternal added stuff like the meathook and dashing and I never see any of the Doom fans complaining about those mechanics because they aren’t “true to Doom”. As long as stuff is done well and is built off of what made the originals fun in the first place I welcome it with open arms. It’s just too bad Infinite as an entire product is undercooked as hell.
@@Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels There's nothing wrong with liking advanced movement. but the feature is antithetical to halo's design and is harmful in all forms of implementation.
@@Halofan-ey3ul Could you explain how it’s antithetical? What exactly does it ruin? I’m trying to see your point here. I understand wanting Halo to stick to it’s guns and not try to add stuff in that everyone else is doing but I’ve played pretty much every Halo to completion and I never found a problem with at least Infinite’s abilities, both multiplayer and singleplayer-wise. They feel very similar to stuff like Halo 3 and Reach’s equipment. hence why I’d wanna hear your opinion.
I like how 343 copied the synopsis of CE and setting but managed to somehow make infinite insanely boring with a bad story. They wanted to make their newest game as mid as possible in all aspects
Infinite was nothing more than a big "Game wasn't ready" Director: Don't care, deadline matter, release it. That and by the time contractors learned the actual engine they were gonna be gone in 2 months or slightly more. So it didn't matter.
The biggest difference is, I'll still go back and play Halo CE. I never finished Infinite, got to the last boss and ran out of f*cks to give. I would honestly rather replay 5, at least it felt complete. Infinite feels hollow, it's so obvious they scrapped the campaign to focus on selling $hitty multiplayer skins. The bosses are the worst in any Halo game, they're just boring bullet sponges. So much potential was wasted, it pisses me off beyond words with how they gave away multiplayer but charged campaign players full price for something they had no intention of supporting.
this is why bungie did thing better, the story, the game play, making good religion/believes (via the covernant/irl) and fleshing out everything cus they know story and gameplay comes first, and yes, even tho halo CE to reach did had some/alot time constraints/less time to make the game (cough halo 2) but in the end its still a great game
Bungie halo is great 343 everything has made is garbage finally 343 is gone now we can delete there junk and start a new like we should and stick with bungies story and design
The fact that a halo infinite is open world is the reason I still play the old series I can say I never even tried Halo Infinite because I didn’t want them to get my download
We need to put halo down. It’ll never be what it was. Infinite was a flop. Microsoft will never get the sauce right. Let Halo rest. Tired of looking at the what was.
I dont know. I think there's still great potential. The problem is they aren't utilizing the mature themes it has as well as garner the themes from the Bible it had when bungie was in control. The flood is underused and needs to have it's relevance brought back. The story telling should go back to adding mystery again instead of blatantly telling the player what's going on. As well as the universe has so much potential if they started making branching games with other focused stories. More odst, marines, other spartan battle stories, oni horror, covenant stories. There's the arbiter and his story of fighting for sanghelios. How about Sergent Johnson? Tell his story in a game. It's just about WHO handles the franchise. It's been monetarily focused, not creative or passion. If you hear about what the developers wanted to try or do, you'd realise if they were allowed the creative freedom and time to create it, we'd have a wonderful halo Renaissance. It needs to be more gritty and grounded. Halo has potential still. It hasn't run its course yet. Just poorly handled.
most of the stuff I cover will be old being better. I also do games I’m most familiar with, which are the ones I grew up with. Infinite here I’m not trying to dog on unfairly, I think it’s a great campaign to experience. I’ve tried experimenting, those videos flop hard. This one may flop hard too, but I’ve been testing out a format to branch out into other games that doesn’t come across as old vs new. Trust me, I’m trying to find a middle ground and want to branch out, but I also care about my channel’s success
