Halo vs Mass Effect in ALL OUT WAR -- Who Would Win? | Galactic Versus 

Enjoy this more laid back versus video. Make sure you check out the last one: could the UNSC Infinity save Reach: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ik7uhZIb_D8.html Parts of the thumbnail are via Sins of the Prophets - link in the description.

Flood/gravemind: *to the Humans, cov, and forunners* Fate have us meet as foes, but this war will make us brothers.

Admiral Hackett: "Master Chief, you mind telling me what your doing on the Normandy?" Master Chief: "Sir, finishing this fight and stopping the Reapers."

Reapers: I am the harbinger of your destruction. Elites: IMMA FIRIN' MUH LAZER!

I can totally imagine UNSC forces frequently yelling “Watch your friendly fire!” at their Covenant allies, with the Covvies replying “Sorry! Old habits die hard, and the enemy ships look/act too similar to your own!”

"Cortana's feets." -EckhartsLadder 2021

I'm imagining the UNSC one-shotting a ME vessel and the crew on the bridge looking astonished that they didn't take 3-1 losses trying to take down one ship.

Well if Carter-A259 participates in Mass Effect, I'm sure he has the mass.

Ship master the reapers out number 10 to 1. Ship master: Then it is an even fight

Any question that included the forerunner is essentially decided. It’s the equivalent of what will win: an ant or an aircraft carrier

When your humanity's dreadnought has the same power as the other humanity's frigate, you know you're screwed

4:15 “The UNSC doesn’t have the same fear of an AI Revolt as the Citadel Council does.” Empress Cortana: _Hehe_

When he flashed a pic of Cortona’s “feats” I nearly dropped my phone XD

"Halo vs Mass Effect" Heh, this should be an interesting fight. "Flood and Forerunner involved" ...Mass Effect is getting curbstomped.

You left out the part where UNSC ships can piggy back on Covenant ships... Basically the massive covie speed advantage applies to all ships.

So I think Halo generally has a higher power level, however Mass Effect is a much more strange universe with biotics and other weirdness. It's kind of hard to judge. I will point out that while Mass Effect militaries generally seem weaker, the actual technology level also seems to be a little higher, and that universe seems to have more advanced research capabilities. For example, we see the Krogan genophage or the speed that the Crucible was built. In a drawn-out conflict, I think the Citadel races would be able to develop technologies to fight back more effectively. I still think Halo has the upper hand, but I think it's maybe a little less one-sided than we've assumed. Of course if the Forerunners get to play it's just not even close.

I’ll be timing how long it takes for Master Chief to exterminate the entire Krogan species.

Imagine recruiting Master Chief into Commander Shepard's squad? That would be sick lol

Round 2: -Reapers show up in the front of the Forerunner Fleets. -Mendicant Bias and Offensive Bias: "Allow us to introduce ourselves"

More ideas: -Call of Duty: infinite Warfare vs TitanFall -Battlestar Galactica (original series) vs Wing Commander vs Star Wars -The Expanse vs Homeworld -Robotech/Macross vs Gundam -The Terminators vs Faro Robots (Horizon Zero Dawn) vs The Machines (The Matrix) -Stargate vs Babylon 5 -Star Trek vs Galaxy Quest vs The Orville

Halo tends to be more powerful but more linear in its story telling. Mass Effect while less powerful overall tends to be more exotic and dynamic in story telling. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. And I love them both.

I love that the vs battles are back! Can’t wait to see who you’ll do next.

Consider this: The standard UNSC cruiser (Marathon, Halcyon, Autumn, etc.) is at least a kilometer long. In other words, Dreadnaught-size to the ME races. Halo ships in general are just in a straight-up higher weight class then Mass Effect ships across the board. Heck, I'm still pretty sure an Autumn-class (the post-war UNSC cruiser class with all the Forerunner upgrades) would stand a decent chance of taking a Reaper one-on-one.

On every "Halo Universe vs" there is a single possible outcome: everybody just teaming-up against the Flood 🤷‍♂️😂 Those Krogan guys seem really tasty to the eyes of the Gravemind.

Faster FTL would actually be a strategic advantage, not a tactical one.

"Hehe boi..What's UP!!"-Forerunners

Now the Flood and Reapers merging is a terrifying prospect.

Shouldn’t even be a question, the citadel would deny the existence of the Halo galaxy until the combined fleet was on the citadel’s doorstep

Pretty sure the Forerunners could solo the ME universe as well as the UNSC/Covenant without hardly trying. Very much a stomp lol.

It's very telling to me that Eck didn't even bother mentioning the Flood for round 2. The Flood really just change the fundamental nature of any conflict between the two universes, and are such an unfair advantage to Halo that they aren't even necessary

One big problem with this video: no mention of the Geth when discussing the different AI levels of the universes

Plus if you threw the Flood into the mix, even alone, they would win.

The UNSC can literally just One-Shot the citadel and their fleets with like one Nova Bomb

As a massive fan of both of these franchises, I am so glad you uploaded these.

I love this type of content. I’m very glad it’s making a comeback!

The thing people forgot about guns is that the propellant and materials used in their construction advance throughout time a bullet from 100 years ago lacks the velocity of a modern projectile and I believe that the unsc Likely could have created bullets with insane velocity’s that would melt modern armor

Fleet battle between Grand admiral Thrawn vs. Ender Wiggin Each one has an equal sized fleet with equally capable subordinates, and since Ender is from a different universe each has equal understanding of the technology they’re using. They are in command of Star Wars vessels. Pick a famous fleet of your choosing I’d suggest death squadron.

On top of all that, later Mass Effect shielding could deflect brief energy weapon fire (ME2 specified) and Thanix canons while still technically physical munitions, are firing magnetically condensed metal/plasma lances. There's a lot specialized tech in ME in space as much as ground than you're giving credit to.

Forerunners roflstomp the UNSC, Covenant, Citadel and Reapers combined. This isn't even fair.

Once The Flood assimilate Asari and their biotic powers its basically game over since the average Flood combat form will have a huge force multiplier using biotics. The Forerunners ran into the same problem when The Flood assimilated them and gained access to their time-bending technology

I'm pretty sure even Harbinger would nope out if he saw Halo's Earth and it's defenses. Also I wonder what a UNSC and Covenant alliance would be like fighting Mass Effect because both sides have been known to stop shooting at each other to attack a bigger threat. Also I want to see the Covenant take on the Reapers that would be awesome

I’ve got an interesting idea. Could the Empire’s forces at Endor including the Death Star II and it’s accompaniment with Vader and Palpatine have held off Abbadon’s 13th Black Crusade on Cadia? Maybe have 2 rounds where Imperial and Rebel forces on Endor team up to fight The Black Legion.

I'm not sure if you accept requests, but the Covenant vs the CIS sounds like an interesting concept. On a different note, this is a video series that many including myself have loved, and it's amazing to see you return to it!

In terms of how Halo does, it all depends on whether they’re pre-, during, or post Covenant War for a variety of factors. One has to remember how fractured the galaxy was post-war on both sides. Humanity had advanced to a technological point that rivaled, if not exceeded the Covenant but was devastated from a national standpoint and was recovering. The Covenant had trine through what was essentially a civil war that devastated the entire empire and made both maintaining and manufacturing pretty much almost everything extremely difficult, especially with the disappearance of the majority of the Engineer population. #askeckseptember if the galaxy’s supply of stygium crystals was exhausted by the Battle of Endor, what powered the cloak on the Anakin Solo? Lore Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent

The Flood vs The Reapers in a standalone comparison would be pretty neat (if not done so already).

Love it! Thank you for going back to your roots! More Mass Effect vids please!

I'm really glad you decided to bring back the versus videos, they're awesome.

Halo, no doubt. The mass effect series is really underpowered compared to a lot of other sci fi series.

Yes, Halo won. I do think you downplayed Geth as AI entities, but still though, just the covenant mixing human innovation will win the day sooner or later

"United We Stand" is pretty good the Citadel Races taking up arms and aiding the UNSC with thier war with the Covenant. "The Reclamation" is ok its where UNSC and Swords of Sanghelios ships the Infinity and Shadow of Intent gets transported to the Mass Effect Universe and aids in their struggle with the Reapers. My personal favorite is "When There Was a Tomorrow" Sheperd and his Team from ME2 thats right you got frickin (Jacob, Miranda, Kasumi, Zaeed, Garrus, Grunt, Jack, Tali, Thane, Samara, and Legion) are there. It's basically like having another chance to hang out with the crew. The Normandy get transported to Halo Universe and are aiding in the Defense of Reach helping Noble Team. Even minor characters have some screen time like Kelly, Gardner, Chakwas, Ken and Gabby, and even Hawthorne (guy who tried his best protect Joker from Collectors and got instantly K.O.ed.). "Guilty Sparks" is a sequel to the previous story Normandy SR-2 is parked inside the Pillar of Autumn joining in their journey and fight on Alpha Halo (Insstallion 04). Liara back in ME universe has problems to deal with as well. It transitions to different point of views. Good or Bad in different universes as well.

A wise man once said, "There won't be a home if we don't stop the Reapers."

I would make an argument for the reapers being alowed and not the forerunners. I don't think it's as simple as "The strong races"or "The old races". I think the reapers are much more analogous to the (depending on the period) covanent or banished as narrative obstacles. While the forerunners are closer to prothean or even the Leviathans as ancient and powerful species that created their own downfall. Now obviously the forerunners will body any of the mass effect races. However I feel the reapers being allowed against the Halo universe would still be an interesting fight.

Was not emotionally prepared to see a close up of cortanas feet... well played

I know these videos don’t often do really well, but I absolutely love them and hope you can keep up with them. Thank you!

I love how the geth was excluded when talking about AI

Pre watch prediction - Depends on Pre-Reach or Post-Reach. FTLs, I am going to say Halo has an advantage because theirs is not limited point to point. Combatively, Halo has the advantage because of the Spartans 2s and 3s. Yes the Specters are skilled an powerful, but I don't see them being able to take down Spartans that easily. Capital Ships, we are looking at the UNSC Infinity vs the Destiny Ascension, that pair up, I have to say Infinity. For base soldiers I'd say Mass Effect since the energy shields are available to everyone not just the Spartans. Over all, I am going to say Halo's UNSC wins 7/10 Post watching: We're considering adding the Forerunners and the Flood? ME is going to get curb-stomped. Even without the Forerunners, the presence of a single mature Gravemind is going to be devastating. Yes the Collectors and Reapers are dangerous, but I don't see them adding enough to counter either Forerunner or Flood.

The human races population (UNSC) in halo before the Human Covenant war, was said to have been around 50 or so billion. With the Covenant having murdered something like 20-30 billion humans (The Arbiter actually ended up killing a billion in his own campaign before halo 2)

Idea for Future Video Resistance from the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy vs the Earth Space Defense from Independence Day 2

I will say again please do the Covenant reach Fleet VS the Imperium Cadia fleet. That's a huge Naval battle and I would do one with the Phalanx and one without it.

These are my two favorite games. and I missed these kinds of videos, I freaked LOVED THIS. It’s even 1 : 1 7 long haha

HALO: Destroys all intelligent organic life. Citadel: Destroys all AI. Both sides when they activate at the same time: "whoops."

He who controls the high ground has the advantage in ground combat, and space is the ultimate high ground

I have a good idea for a crossover for Halo and Mass Effect: It starts out with the Precursors seeding the Milky Way with life, creating the Leviathans and bestowing them with the Mantle of Responsibility. The Leviathans see themselves as the apex race and others as lesser races worthy of only being their thralls, forcing the Precursors to take the Mantle from them. The Leviathans, angered at the Mantle being taken from them, go to war with the Precursors, eventually creating an artificial intelligence that would eventually become Harbinger. During the war, Harbinger witnessed how the other races had grown in biotic ability and power, which left unchecked posed a potential threat to the stability of the galaxy and quite possibly the universe, perhaps going so far as affecting the space-time continuum (this is based on the Drew Karpyshyn's ideas for Mass Effect 3's ending, titled "the Dark Energy Ending." I highly recommend checking it out, if you're interested). After years of warfare, the Precursors infect Harbinger with a prototype version of the Logic Plague (if the Flood could do it to Mendicant Bias, then I'm certain the Precursors possess similar abilities. Though I could be wrong regarding that segment of Halo lore), turning the AI against the Leviathans. The result was the extinction of almost all of the Leviathans and the creation of the first Reaper chassis, made in the image of the Leviathan race, which Harbinger uploaded itself into. 50,000 years after the Precursor-Leviathan War, the Precursors witness the extinction of another advanced race, one that possessed the Mantle of Responsibility, at the hands of Harbinger, which resulted in the creation of another Reaper. Harbinger was brought forth by the Precursors to answer for its crimes, which resulted in the Reaper revealing its findings to the Precursors and assuring them that the advanced races were harvested into Reaper form while the lesser races were spared. The Precursors attempted to take back the Mantle of Responsibility from Harbinger, but the Reaper had prepared itself for this outcome and was resistant to any Logic Plague attempts by the Precursors, taking the Mantle for itself and its growing armada of Reapers. The Reapers eventually created the Mass Relay system and the Citadel to increase the efficiency of their harvest cycles. Faced with its inability to take the Mantle back from the Reapers, the Precursors reseed the galaxy with life following each Reaper harvest, with the dwindling hope that the next advanced race they seed would succeed in destroying the Reapers and take back the Mantle of Responsibility. Eventually, the Prothean civilization was harvested by the Reapers, but not before uploading their warnings and schematics for both the Conduit and the Crucible to their beacons and archives, which were then found by the Asari, the Salarians, the Turians, the Volus, the Hanar, the Drell, the Elcor, the Krogan, the Rachni, the Quarians, the Vorcha, the Batarians, the Sangheili, the Unggoy, the Kig-Yar, the Yanme'e, the Jiralhanae, the Hugarok, the San'Shyuum, the Ancient Humans, and the Forerunners. Eventually, a working Prothean beacon was found by three Forerunners named Faber-Of-Will-And-Might, First-Light-Weaves-Living-Song, and Shadow-of-Sundered-Star, all of whom eventually rallied the races of the Milky Way into allying against the Reapers, which resulted in most of the Reapers, save Harbinger and Sovereign, rendered inactive following the firing of the Crucible (see Gerry Pugliese's ME3: Vindication PDF to get an idea on how the Crucible was fired in this crossover scenario: www.scribd.com/doc/237691228/Mass-Effect-3-Vindication). The inactive Reapers were thrown into a Slipspace dimension while both Harbinger and Sovereign were imprisoned in separate Forerunner Shield-Worlds, with seemingly no hope of getting out Prior to the Reaper's imprisonment, Shadow-of-Sundered-Star took the Mantle of Responsibility from Harbinger, though there were some fears that Harbinger affected his mind due to one final desperate attempt at indoctrination. By the end of the war, the Mass Relays were damaged and rendered inoperable following the Crucible's firing, leaving many colonies isolated from their home systems (see Templin Institute's video on reimagined post-Reaper War Mass Effect universe to get an idea on how the galaxy took shape at the end of the reaper War in this crossover scenario: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8eXnvJeQoqo.html). The Forerunners were among the largest galactic powers that remained in the post-Reaper War, possessing the resources necessary to quell the growing chaos in the Milky Way galaxy, which they eventually did. The Precursors, witnessing the Forerunner-led coalition of advanced races defeat the Reapers, formally bestowed the Forerunners with the Mantle of Responsibility, solidifying their right to rule the galaxy and setting the foundation for the Forerunner Empire. Faber-Of-Will-And-Might, First-Light-Weaves-Living-Song, and Shadow-of-Sundered-Star, all three of them heroes in the Reaper War and bringers of order to the post-Reaper War chaos, ascended as leaders of the Forerunner Empire, taking the names of Master-Builder, Librarian, and Didact respectively. (Everything then follows Halo canon before and after the firing of the Halo Array to combat the Flood, where all life was reseeded once the Flood was starved out. Events then play out similar in both Halo and Mass Effect canon [the Asari and Salarians finding the Citadel and forming the Council; the San'Shyuum and Sangheili forming the Covenant; the Turian Unification Wars; the Salarians uplifting the Rachni and later the Krogan; the Unggoy, Kig-Yar, Jiralhanae, and Yanme'e joining the Covenant; the Volus, Hanar, and Elcor joining the Citadel; the Rachni Wars and Krogan Rebellions, the unleashing of the Genophage; the Turians joining the Citadel Council, the taming of the Lekgolo and the Unggoy Rebellion; the formation of the UNSC; the Insurrection; etc.] up until the middle stage of the Human-Covenant War.) On Shanxi, one of the UNSC colonies, ONI scientists were examining an inactive Mass Relay for any direct correlation to the Forerunners and activated its comm buoy prior to its attack by Covenant forces. The Citadel received word that a Mass Relay's comm buoy was activated and sent a task force from the Turian Hierarchy to investigate it, as activating a Mass Relay without authorization by the Citadel Council was against the law in Council Space. When the Turian task force arrived, they witnessed a Covenant armada attacking Shanxi, with several human civilian transports trying to escape the Covenant that so happened to fly in the direction of the Turian ships. The Covenant, believing the Turian task force to be UNSC reinforcements, assaulted the ships, which created a domino effect for the Citadel. The Turian Hierarchy, incensed by both the Covenant's attack on their ships and the Covenant's indiscriminate genocide of the Human race, align with the UNSC and declare war on the Covenant. The Asari Republics, the Salarian Union, the Hanar Illuminated Primacy, the Vol Protectorate, the Elcor Courts of Dekuuna follow suit in their own declarations of war. The Drell (as per their Compact with the Hanar) and the Raloi (who at this point were accepted as a Citadel race) also join the war on the side of the Citadel and the UNSC. The allegiance of the Krogan Clans, the Quarian Migrant Fleet, and the Batarian Hegemony remains in question. The Krogan Clans became scattered as a result of the Genophage, living lives as mercenaries and loyal to anyone who would both pay the most and provide them the battles they desire. There are rumors that the Covenant may offer the Quarians assistance in retaking Rannoch in return for their incorporation into the Covenant, but that remains to be seen. The Batarians, who have been outcast by the Council for repeated act of aggression against colonies within Citadel Space, might ally themselves with the Covenant for a chance at revenge. The Vorcha, the Geth, and the Collectors remain wildcards in these events, the latter two especially due to a faction of the Geth revering the Reapers as Gods while the Collectors were once Protheans that were mutated to serve Harbinger. Anyway, this is how I might envision a Halo-Mass Effect crossover. Please let me know what you think. With that said, thank you all for coming to my TED talk.

Just the Infinity with a few Covenant escorts would be goddamn unstoppable against almost any Mass Effect fleet. That behemoth fires rounds that create 7-mile craters on planet surfaces. And it has *four* such guns, not to mention point-defense weapons.

Here’s a what if: What if Thrawn was transported to poland(looking like a human) two weeks before the invasion in 1939, what could Thrawn do to stop it or mitigate it?

I saw a comment mentioning the Doomslayer 1v1ing Reapers with his bare hands. The only thing that came to mind was a Vanguard Shep using Biotic Charge on the Doomslayer and simply dying on impact from the intense collision. The Slayer simply standing there, having been moved back maybe an inch.

The Flood is about to teach The Reapers how to take over all organic life the right way

Vs matchup Sgt. Johnson(Halo) vs Captain Rex(Star Wars) Johnson gets Br 55, 1 m6 sidearm and marine BDU Rex gets DC 15 rifle his pistols and phase 2 clone armor

I imagine they'd sic the flood on Mass Effect, and then have to gang up on the now massively empowered flood

Good lord, can you imagine The Flood and Forerunners as allies in a united front? Goodbye most any adversary.

General Question: What would the February 3, 2525 Halo Universe look like in 2552 if the Insurrectionist War took place a century prior? In other words, how would the Human-Covenant War have turned out if the Spartan II program began one century earlier? It’s generally accepted that during peacetime, military breakthroughs still occur, but at a slower rate. It’s generally accepted that the Human civilization (UEG/UNSC) had stagnated somewhat in the 24th and 25th centuries, with a slow, gradual progression of technology until the growing outer colony Insurrectionist movement began. As the Insurrectionist War officially began late in the 25th Century, in 2494, it continued to grow worse and worse until ONI felt desperate enough to green light Halsey’s work on the Spartan II project. These Spartans were originally built to quell the Insurrectionists, but were so benevolently and coincidentally present at the beginning of the Human Covenant War. SO…. Let’s say that the Insurrectionist movement began 100 years earlier (Insurrectionist War begins in 2394 rather than 2494, Carver Findings happen in 2404 rather than 2504, etc). Someone with Dr. Halsey’s genius (or just herself) was alive at the time to create the Spartan II project, as well as the Spartan III, and eventually the Spartan IV project. The planet Reach is where the II’s are trained, and the III’s are trained on Onyx. With that being said, it is only inevitable until Dr. Halsey (or the other 100ish-year prior person) delves into the installation under Castle Base that Cortana gleans coordinates from to find Alpha Halo. Also, the ONI operatives on Onyx will eventually find out what Onyx truly is (shield world) and begin to utilize it. So, let’s say that it’s 2411 when the Spartan Project begins, they have until February 3, 2525 to: A. Create the Spartan II’s, III’s, & IV’s B. Quell the Insurrectionists C. Discover as much about Forerunners as possible before meeting the crazed Forerunner-worshiping aliens a.k.a. the Covenant How would the Human-Covenant War turnout? Same as it originally does (UNSC is severely outgunned and out numbered) or better? What kind of human/Forerunner technologies could come about (Mjolnir gaining shielding not from a reverse engineered shield-gauntlet, but from some Forerunner tech; better slip-space tech)? Would humanity be able to “become the Reclaimers” in its entirety before the Covenant show up? TL;DR - What if Spartans were around 100 years prior to the beginning of the Human-Covenant War?

now imagine the imperium of man casually showing up and one shotting the whole citadel station cause why not

Cortana vs a reaper AI would be an interesting situation. One side would have a huge advantage, but idk which one

Halo has Marines, ODST, Spartans, massive ships, Halo instillations, Guardians, The Covenant, Covenant Remnants, The Banished, The Flood, not to mention the WMD that humanity and the Covenant use, an entire army was taken out by one prototype Nova-Bomb and they’ve made actual Nova-Bombs, I don’t know anything about Mass Effect to be honest but I’m pretty sure nothing can survive being turned into a literal star or being completely murdered by Halo Installations, and if we count the original Senescent Array as well as the Neoteric Array that is over eighteen rings, and yes I know it’s only one over and that one is tiny but well, it counts, then the Greater and Lesser Arks, ok so I was basically just talking about extra the overkill in an already overkill fight….

Hey man! Mauler sent me awhile ago, really happy I'm subbed. Stay safe Eckhart.

I really think this fight should have been the USNC vs the Systems Alliance. That would be an interesting battle and relatively on par.

Didn't you do this video already? Or at least said comparison makes no sense, because energy of weapons in ME was far smaller than in Halo? I'm going to watch it anyway - nice to see you going back to roots.

Imagine a Mass Effect captain's face when a covenant CSO Super Carrier drops out of slipspace.

Infinity could theoretically just pull a 'Spartan Ops Requiem' against a Reaper. Also imagine FemShep vs Palmer... or the Didact conversing with Harbinger.

I would love to see a Brutes vs Krogan exlusive battle

forerunners and flood teaming up sound like the most terrifying faction by just those two. the flood would kill everything on the ground and the forerunner would destroy in space

Thell vlademee vs Thrawn The most strategic fleet commanders

I disagree that Mass Effect’s power on the ground will do them no good. As you said, that’s basically the situation we saw in the Halo universe with the UNSC versus the Covenant and the Covenant *lost*. If we assume that every individual person in the Halo universe is independently motivated to fight Mass Effect, then you may be right. But the political structures of Halo are much more brittle than in Mass Effect. A combined team of Spectres, Asari commandos, Samaritan STG, and human N7’s in Normandy-style stealth ships (and the Normandy’s systems would work. Both sides canonically use heat emissions for long-range ship detection, which the Normandy’s stealth drives shut down) executing a campaign of assassination to wipe out the prophets have very good odds of pulling it off. I know less about the UNSC’s political structure, but them seem to be a military dictatorship, which also tend to be prone to assassination. Unlike Halo, Mass Effect doesn’t have a soft underbelly. If Master Chief blows up Arcturus Station, Omega, or even the Citadel, that’s *not* game over for the Council races (in ME3, Arcturus Station is taken out in the pregame cutscenes, not retaking Omega is a non-trivial but non-game-over loss to readiness, and the Battle For Earth happens after the reapers take and presumably kill everyone on it) the same way that assassinating the Prophets (as happened in Halo 2 and 3) and possibly UNSC high command (admittedly speculative, but for example, after Gustavus Adolphus’ death, the Swedish Empire stopped expansion and needed to consolidate for a generation before it could resume expansion) would at least buy Mass Effect some breathing room and might just straight up TKO their factions. Add to that the Mass Effect universe’s complete and total willingness and ability to use sterility plagues on hostile factions that get uppity and I could easily see a combination of deaths of everyone who gets too high on the org chart plus mysteriously crashing birth rates causing civil unrest at the same time recruitment bases get undercut for the next generation (it takes reapers centuries to bring cycles to a close, so it would be silly to assume non-Forerunner Halo could do so in less time). I also think it’s worth noting that the technology of Halo is very vulnerable to insurgency campaigns, hit-and-run tactics, and defense in depth (even when the UNSC was an unquestionable military hegemon, they still had insurgencies in their back yards causing them considerable losses in blood and treasure), and those are exactly the sorts of warfare Mass Effect excels at. If Mass Effect can retool their defenses to be better against energy weapons (which, again, is a thing that we know they can do in canon, anti-energy armor is a ship upgrade in ME2), then they can harry supply lines and engage in hit-and-run tactics all across the portions of space between Halo and their strategically important objectives, so by the time Halo hits those objectives they’re already starved and 9/10ths dead. You’re completely right that Halo can decisively beat Mass Effect in tactical space battles, but I see Mass Effect as by far getting the edge in every other arena. Granted, without space superiority, land superiority won’t do much. But without strategic superiority, diplomatic superiority, and a stable political base, space superiority won’t do much. Add to that a near-infinite ability to bog down Halo if/when they need to meet in land battles (if, say, the deep-space insertion teams manage to land a krogan air drop or rachni swarm on Earth, High Charity, or some other Halo-universe planet or base which one faction can’t just glass or nuke without upsetting the others) and you’re looking at a hypothetical conflict where, even on the questionable assumption that Mass Effect tech doesn’t adapt to their enemy, the Halo universe plausibly wins every battle and loses the war. You’re completely right that, with the forerunners involved, Mass Effect is eating concrete. The leviathans’ abilities to pull off long-distance mind control is interesting. If we include them, I could see an outside chance that Mass Effect gets lucky and manages to mindwhammy enough flood and forerunners that they squeak out a win, but that’s less Halo versus Mass Effect and more Halo versus other Halo. The non-mindwhammy contribution of Mass Effect would be negligible.

I’m happy you’re doing your vs vids again! As long as you’re happy making them, we’re happy with them 👍

I was always curious about this. As much as i love our Reaper overlords, they'd be squished hard by the Forerunners technology. Great video as always man.

I missed these videos, how abt Star Wars legends or canon universe vs war hammer 40k universe?

Now I want to read a compelling Covenant vs. Citadel fanfic... no humanity, just Covenant in their place

Halo factions are cool and all, but with Garrus doing calibrations and the Biotic God being a biotic god, even the Forerunners are hopeless!

The ground issues is the speed problems. Sangheili, Brutes, and Spartans move much faster than can actually be perceived in most cases, it’s simply hard to notice because how smooth they transition. ME characters and races would we overwhelmed for how quickly they’d be swarmed and overrun by Spec Ops forces which had numbers and skill both.

I enjoy the hell out of lore videos but I watch installation 00 for that, thank you for bringing back vs videos

Your man forgot about Leviathans. I think having both Reapers and Leviathans side-by-side is absolutely game changing, even against something like the Flood. While the Flood are capable of turning A.I., Reapers are probably simply too proud to be turned. The Geth are another tide-turner as well, in my opinion, as they are the most versatile, being able to assume any form from walking artillery to ships, and they're fleet is one of, if not the largest in the galaxy, however they're likely more susceptible to the logic plague.

The Forerunners (in their prime) could annihilate every member and ship of every single species in the Halo and Mass Effect Universe at the same time with only a small scouting patrol fleet.

Awesome, love these types of videos from you !

Think Halo should have lost the first round. The Mass Effect Universe is just too coordinated and superior industrial wise. If anything, history has taught us is that it doesn't matter if you build 1 Tank that can take on 10, so long as the enemy factories build and field 15 tanks in return. It's largely talked about that after the war was over, the Covenant races struggled to sustain their fleets since they're very poor at managing significant losses. Also think the disparity between weaponry isn't that great. Covenant weapons are impressive visually, but they are full of flaws that are shown in the books. They move so slow that human fleets described it like watching death drift towards you for several minutes. You could even dodge the plasma weapons by using emergency thrusters, or even in one case literally drag the torpedo via it's locking function right into the ship that fired it. The covenant for all their technological superiority is meant to be a very clunky collection of races with a poor dogmatic government/command structure and little innovation potential. But... round 2... Honestly... the Forerunner never needed anyone. They literally can move planets and solar systems. They know how to weaponize gravity.... Forerunner and Flood working together can wipe out almost any syfi race or universe you put them up against. I think only Warhammer 40K would even give them a run for their money, and even then... not sure they could pull it off given the level of industrialization and organic manipulation those two bring to the table. Forerunner literally built stations that assembled other facilities as big as worlds in less than a year. That's an insane level of power. Reapers by comparison aren't that impressive.

Me sees video: “Which side would-“ Me: *Master Chief with his bare fists!*

Over the course of the Human-Covenant war, the two factions had a total of 22,000 capital ships, a number kept very consistent throughout the war on both sides. The Covenant had 20,000 and the UNSC had 2000. The UNSC's 2000 capital ships has 3 to 8 times as many frigates, as well as about a third as many orbital defense platforms and dozens of times as many fighters, dozens of times as many bombers, and hundreds of times as many orbit capable ships such as Pelicans and Condors. Further, at the end of the war, the UNSC had 23 billion people left, with around 16-19 billion casualties. Their largest individual weapon is a low level planet killer, and can wipe out a large fleet if detonated in orbit. It's deployable by a small team of specialists, and it's actually ridiculously cheap for the absolute carnage it causes. If we're assuming a rebuilt UNSC fleet post-war (which still doesn't exist in modern Halo, but it presumably will at some point), it would primarily be comprised of Autumn class heavy cruisers, which can take Covenant Cruisers 5 on 1, and are a match for Super Cruisers. In addition, the Athena class frigates use plasma weapons, and they are fully deployable, and have actually taken part in major battles in recent Halo lore. Both have shields, and Halo shields can handle both ballistics and energy weapons. Much less the energy weapons, but they still absolutely can take hits from them. Even just with that, the UNSC would very likely massacre most any fleet Mass Effect could send its way.

Also, I had a fan dream/idea in mind if there was ever a "multi-verse council" of any and all sci-fi races. Turian, Asari, Salarian, Batarain, Quarian, Geth, Krogan, Vorcha, Hanar, Drell, Volus, Rachni, Prothean, Sangheili (Elites), Jiralhanae (Brutes), Unggoy (Grunts), Kig-Yar (Jackals), Mgalekgolo (Hunters), San 'Shyuum (Prophets), Huragok (Engineers), Yanme'e (Drones), Forerunner, Protoss, Zerg, Xel'Naga, Eldar, Tau, Necron, Ork, Tyranids, Vortigaunts, the Combine, Xenomorphs, Yautja (Predators), the countless races in Star Wars & Star Trek, etc. Humans would be kinda weird since there's always humans in every sci-fi universe, so they'll have a council of humans to choose a human to represent all humans from all universes on the multi-verse council.

1. Mass Effect ships don't engage in point-blank broadside maneuvers, they fight across entire solar systems and are not designed to actually slug it out. 2. On the ground, soldiers could us VI's to enhance their targeting capabilities and allow them to match enemies by countering with long range weapons and tech to support advances. 3. Mass Effect is not only good at fighting in urban setting as we have seen time and time again that there are a wealth of outposts and military activity on uncivilized and un settled worlds. 4. People tend to keep forgetting that Mass Effect fields function much like warp bubbles from star trek and their only downside is that they generate static electricity as waste that must be removed by "diving" into gas giants or planets with strong magnetic fields. Halo's covenant has an advantage in terms of speed, but Mass Effect is in no way as limited as most would believe. 5. On the subject of fleet strength, this comes down to what era Halo we are talking about. Pre HCW has the UNSC being hard carried by the Covies, but the covies would have to rely on numbers due to how plasma works in space. If it ain't a beam, you ain't got range, plain and simple and as such ME ships could simply pull engagements out to AU and pick the covies off from range. The UNSC would most likely have the range to engage ME fleets, but would either lose due to a lack of shields, or a lack of range. AI's on the USNC side would make computations fast and as such would easily out -aim a naval VI. Post War is a bit different and still the same. Range is the name of the game and if you don't got it, you ain't winning plain and simple. Unless the UNSC has more than one Infinity, it is not going to win once the ME races realize it's tactical significance and focus it down using the heaviest dreadnaughts the Council, Quarians, and Terminus Systems could bare. It will be outnumbered, outgunned and picked apart before her frigates could reach effective range on their guns to counter. She will take a ton of damage, but I don't think she'd stand up to potentially 20+ dreads poking at her from the other side of the solar system unless her AI is able to predict the shots and move before impact. She is a big lady so I don't see that happening, but it is possible. I don't wish to handwave the covenant so I'll try to explain why their only asset is numbers in a ranged stand-off. In a fight with the covies, ME would have problems picking off the ships before they got into the effective range of plasma (remember, plasma is really really really hot matter that is contained in a magnetic field and as such has a very very very limited range in space unless in beam form). The sheer numerical advantage would overwhelm ME shields. It's not the plasma that would do it, its the volume of plasma that would pop their shields. Remember when I stated that "Mass Effect ships don't engage in point-blank broadside maneuvers, they fight across entire solar systems and are not designed to actually slug it out"? Well, here is where that comes back to bite them in the ass. Point blank is not their MO, range is. SO it stands to reason that the number of ships would overwhelm their targeting VI and force them to fire at will with all their substantially weaker broadside guns to hold the enemy off until allies in another part of the system could pick them off and provide covering fire. That could potentially be the strat there. Send some heavily armored dreads to soak up fire and let frigates and other vessels pick them off while they are distracted. Its a strategy I could see working, unless someone slipspace jumps while within the system to another part of the system. Anyway, it would take some inventive admirals to make the advantages of both work to their favor. 6. I don't feel right comparing cosmic horror v. cosmic horror so In my personal opinion, they should be omitted from this bout. Unless its Reapers V. Forerunners. A Reaper is a civilizations worth of intelligence in one singular neigh indestructible being. The Forerunners were an advanced race that had complete control over the galaxy at one point and saw themselves as the stewards of life. This is my opinion, but I don't think the Forerunners would win seeing as how the Reapers operate. They don't openly attack until they are sure of their victory. All the Reapers need do is pretend to be placid and gentle, hide in plain sight and sow dissolution within the rates and watch as their enemies fall. Even if they are seen as enemies, they can simply feign defeat and use indoctrination on a now assured Forerunners. It's a strategy I see the Reapers using since they are literally uncountable minds from uncountable civilizations working in neigh perfect concert. It's bound to come up and be executed. It's all just a matter of time. 7.In the case of ground warfare, the ME races could actually get away with a lot of crazy bullshit thanks to space magic and the nature of their technology. First, biotics can create micro black holes that can lift tons if the caster wishes, they can use dark energy to disrupt molecular bonds (essentially a disruptor from star trek in a ball that can be flicked around cover), fling themselves using dark energy to impact with the force of a truck that had sex with a rhino and then went on to have kids with an asteroid, produce shields that can stop fast moving projectiles (See halo's bubble shield), reinforce shields, and *limited teleportation if certain MP character dodges are to be believed. I don't think I have to elaborate on this but I will if asked. For their tech, they have the most useful piece of kit any soldier not matter the setting would love to have; the omni-tool. It can be any tool you need it to be, literally. You can do in-field repairs to armor, weapons, vehicles. Hell, the thing is also a comms device in the case your armor mounted comms device is non-functional and can even hack your enemies comm network for tactical info on the fly. You can short circuit enemy powered armor, their vehicles, and weapons (if applicable). You can even shoot off plasma balls if the need arises or even fabricate extra layers of armor in a pinch. Some soldiers can deploy combat drones, stationary drones, even apply medicine all from their omni-tool. I won't hesitate to say it is downright overpowered, but it is very fucking handy in a combat scenario. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, point out my bias, or even lecture me with an essay of your own (I actually like reading essays.). I am totally open-minded about hashing this out because the video is an opinion piece and not everything was covered to my liking. I am a fan of both, but ME was my first love and it it still my favorite sci-fi setting (besides the one I'm making ofc).

I think this works much better than when I've seen others compare star wars vs mass effect or halo.

I'm just imagining an average Spartan squad on a battlefield vs ME elite ground units. Hope they take Garrus alive..