@@TiZon220 I don't buy the hardware limitation. The Karoo is based on Android and is very capable. I've sideloaded music apps and more. If a simple Wahoo or Garmin can figure it out, they can make the app work for older units.
From comments I have seen on Facebook, the new app will connect with the K2 and upload rides from it, but that’s the only functionality with the older model.
I used to use karoo 2 and switched to 840 recently and to be honest besides Battery life, karoo is way better to set up, to navigate, workouts are clearer and i prefer the data screens (but i guess that is personal). These are all features i use But having a battery which you don‘t have to think about is very important to me. as my battery on the karoo died twice on me. To be fair on very long 12 h rides. Still this is a very important part of a device that is supposed to bring you from a to b. I even used it on di2 with ki2 (amazingly implemented even prefer this to garmins real di2 integration) and i had a sim card installed which probably makes it feel a lot like the smartphone integration now. But i guess i am stuck to garmin as long as the battery is not on par. And since the garmin screen looks horrible compared, i have started to look around more and less on my power numbers : )
I still miss a better map with more details for trails…looks still like a piktogram-map compared with my old Garmin. I have now the K2 for half pricd and don’t see a reason for to upgrade.
Hi! I've been struggling with my bike computer and wonder, with your deep knowledge this subject you could help me. I currently have a Garmin 840 solar, but I struggle to see the display with my aging eyes. I'm 52 and ride with distance prescription glasses, but not readers. I love the data fro computer, and and wear a Garmin 965, so with both of these I feel like it is helping me with sleep and recovery. I borrowed a Karoo and I can see it so much better when riding, but fear I will loose that part of the Garmin world I really like. It seems like a silly problem, but I thought you could have some thoughts. Love your channel! Matt
Great detailed review as always!! The way each company makes their own proprietary mount is just dumb, why not just standardize the mount?? for me if i have an aero handlebar and there is lack of aftermarket mount, it would be a dealbreaker for me
As always sweet review***** one question on the mapping does the New Karoo have the name or identify the bike trails as in Mountain Biking like Trail Forks on the maps? Thanks*** George SLC UT
Great review, and just few hours after the product was launched to the market. For me the poor battery duration is a deal breaker, and Sram knows it. No matter what you have the best software, companion app, and product design, but if battery doesn't last more than reasonable time (13 hrs. is a joke still), I don't see Garmin's and Wahoo's heavy user jumping to the other side of the river. The best example is precisely Garmin, with a hard to die computer, with a crappy Tamagoshi kind of software, the worst companion app ever, but amazing battery life, that's why most people stick with Garmin. When Sram comes up with a 25+ hrs. duration battery life, then Karoo maybe considered a reliable computer IMHO I have a Garmin 530 and most likely will jump to the 1040, and passing the 530 on to my wife or daughter
I have the 2...its ridiculous that the one and mainly only thing i use it for is following loaded routes and that is the biggest battery drain, def wont be getting the 3
Navigation and routes is unfortunately the biggest drain on any device, not just the Karoo 3. But other devices can do better with battery life with other kinds of display technology.
the battery life is the limitation for this device like my K2, good for 4-5 hours training ride, but anything like long distance tour you need to bring a power bank charging while riding. I guess you already bike packing with all the bar bags or top tube bag, so it will be ok to put a power bank with a L connection cable to charge while riding
It feels ridiculous how a bike computer priced similarly to an flagship garmin edge it gets pretty much the same batter life as my garmin edge 130 plus. It seems much more like a low end android converted into a bike computer rather than a dedicated bike computer which is the kind of impression I get from garmin's Edge line up. Great video of the product tho 👍
The 130 is a great device but it's hard to compare battery life between devices which have completely different display types as well as substantially different feature sets. Using Android is just a means to have a base OS but doesn't mean it's just a repurposed smartphone. While the battery life may not be what you can get from a high end Garmin, the navigation capabilities are very comparable and quite competitive!
Not compatible with Shimano for 500 bucks? No can do. I'm not sure what group set I'll go for next so I need a bike computer that works universally. Shame. Looks like they were on to something great here but as I said. I'm not letting my bike computer dictate my group set choice
So this is Android, So it needs a signal like your phone. Were I live coverage is very poor for phone signals. So I am guessing if you have no Android signal the Karoo turns off or screen goes blank. That's not very clever.
@@DesFit Ok thanks, The Android thing put me off a bit. Thanks for explaining. Some of my cycle buddies though the same thing. Which is why none of us have gone for one of these.
Android just provides a base operating system so it can be used for many applications with or without cell/wifi signals. In fact, the primary signals this device would use are GPS and Bluetooth, just like every other bike computer on the market.
Karoo if you are in SRAM Ecos System as I used Garmin 1040 the display feel cheap and UI is like old window Machine ui is not friendly unable to put a direct address in the device
