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LED oscilloscopes can be cheap and fascinating tools to look at some curvy signals, but the resolution is so poor! When Dave decided to build an XY LED oscilloscope, he wanted to go bigger as well and solder up 400 10mm LEDs. With an XY oscilloscope, you can take a look at Lissajous figures and even watch oscilloscope music on it! bit.ly/2HnvnkK
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@Rouverius
@Rouverius 4 года назад
Those electronic notebooks from Forrest M. Mims III are still amazing.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
indeed! Really great to have one here!
@maarkaus48
@maarkaus48 4 года назад
Totally. I bought the book ages ago, and read it for fun. I managed to have an email dialogue with Mr Mims, and thanked him for his ideas. What a nice guy.
@peterbthomas4227
@peterbthomas4227 4 года назад
Still got my set from 1990. Still useful.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
Ask me anything :P I apologise for my mood at the end, I needed to draw a line and finish the video. If anyone has any tips on what I could try to fix the behavior, please share! I would even send some stickers and a 10mm LED for correct tips :D
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
@@Chris-rg6nm Interesting, I would have thought to decrease it more, instead. There has been quite a development on LEDs, maybe older just don't glow at that point. I will certainly use a pot at those current inputs to check it out.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
@@Hex-Mas thanks! Soldering 400 LEDs by hand is my new record :)
@maarkaus48
@maarkaus48 4 года назад
I loved the video. Never noticed a negative mood. I bought the book ages ago, and that was the circuit design that jumped out at me as a must try. I am very glad you did it and posted a video because it gave me more motivation to try it. I think I might make it a sound sensitive wall art project. if someone makes a noise in the room or plays music it will react. Very nice video. I like seeing when others struggle with things too, as it lets me know I am not alone...lol
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
@@maarkaus48 thanks Maarkaus, makes me happy to hear all that! I'll see that I get an update out, once I find out how to "fix" it! Good luck with the fart indicator :P
@maarkaus48
@maarkaus48 4 года назад
@@Davedarko lol
@TheCuriosium
@TheCuriosium 4 года назад
I love those Forrest Mims books! I've built a bunch of projects from them over the years but never did get to the oscilloscope, though I did dream about doing it. This upscaled version is a fun project, I hope you work out the issue with the LEDs, it would make a great follow-up video!
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
thanks a bunch!
@taantricks
@taantricks 4 года назад
once again nice work with the LEDs.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
wait, am I the LED guy now? :D
@deathshaker0026
@deathshaker0026 4 года назад
Awesome job Just Dave! :)
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
thanks! :)
@McTroyd
@McTroyd 4 года назад
If you figure out the fix, please do post an update. Good luck!
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
will do, thanks!
@bytesabre
@bytesabre 4 года назад
Needs you to play Jerobeam Fenderson’s music through it
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
tried it, need to offset that from ac to dc :|
@royelectrotechnic8711
@royelectrotechnic8711 4 года назад
I like your idea and building that led X&Y oscilloscope is amazing. I am looking forward to see you final version of that project. I believe it will end a very nice working oscilloscope. I will suggest that you put different led color in the center of the display vertical and horizontal. Thank you and please tell me where I can download the schematic.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
Interesting suggestion to make that bug a feature and use different LEDs. The Matrix goes from 0V to 2.5V though, so having a line at 1.25V doesn't seem too obvious. There's no real schematics, but I can make one and get back to you. I kind of want to fix some bugs first, too.
@kckc9245
@kckc9245 4 года назад
Hi Guys .. How to Fix you need to change on the LM 3915 IC from BAR to DOT Mode.. Check all common ground .
@CABohol
@CABohol 4 года назад
Nice
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
thanks! :)
@nickd2084
@nickd2084 4 года назад
You need to add a resistor across the first led output
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
at one point I had a 6k8 resistor on every eleventh LED :D I was very tired though. I think the first thing I should do is work on the 20 LED dev boards and then go from there again, secondly find better values for the current resistors.
@richardtrevino8216
@richardtrevino8216 4 года назад
What is the name of the work book, Please.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
Hi, sorry for the late reply, it's "The Forrest Mims Engineer's Notebook"
@vhm14u2c
@vhm14u2c 4 года назад
Impressive to say the least. I hope you post the mods you did to make it x/y
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
will definitely be in an update section or on my channel :) thanks!
@Magic-Smoke
@Magic-Smoke 4 года назад
You have way more patience than me Dave!
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
it was relaxing at some point, just watching netflix and "chill" by soldering loads of LEDs! Gah I'm such a nerd.
@electronash
@electronash 4 года назад
The Forrest M Mims notebooks got me started in electronics. I still recommend them to anyone else wanting to learn. They are fantastic books, and explain everything so well. It looks like maybe the LM chips don't like the current being driven into the output pins the opposite way. (and the pull-ups on the output pins of the other chips seem a bit too low value, and could be passing a fair bit of current through the open-collector drivers of those chips when there is no LED voltage drop there. The outputs only need to be logic-level to drive the inverter inputs, so I would try higher value pull-ups first, like say 2K2.) I guess there shouldn't be passing any current through the LEDs when the inverter outputs are low anyway, but I'm wondering if there might be some other weird effects there. Could maybe try some ULN2003 drivers as well... electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/221193/possible-to-drive-a-uln2003-driver-with-a-lm3914-bar-graph-display Although in theory, there should only be one column of LEDs driven at a time (based on the X input / inverters), maybe the inverters are still driving too many LEDs at once, or have some weird current paths through all of the LED junctions.
@RichSr40
@RichSr40 4 года назад
LM's are internally isolated, however when running a analog low power circuit, it is generally accepted that you keep your bus traces the same width and lengths, and keep your capacitors close and tight tolerance.
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
hi, not sure what this comment is related to? Do you expect wire widths on the pcbs to cause problems?
@RichSr40
@RichSr40 4 года назад
@@Davedarko Analog noise ringing between Lms can cause artifact. filtering with capacitors can help filter this an the tracing and capacitors and tracing lengths create the high and or low pass filter
@hardikmonga
@hardikmonga 4 года назад
Hey you have GreatScott's pen, Lol
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
They are handed to us Germans at birth :D
@ceneblock
@ceneblock 4 года назад
@@Davedarko I thought you got LAMY fountain pens at birth. I guess times change. :)
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
@@ceneblock I do buy stabilo pens and eddings from time to time :)
@carlosoliveira1922
@carlosoliveira1922 4 года назад
How about make the output at an OLED display?
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
@@carlosoliveira1922 I would have to digitalise the signal with analog inputs and put that on the display - which makes it a completely different project and more software based. Totally possible though.
@turutzi
@turutzi 4 года назад
Ey den Typen kenne ich von der MakerFair in Hannover XD
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
waaaas niemals :P MakerFaire war schon toll, hat Spaß gemacht :)
@MAYERMAKES
@MAYERMAKES 4 года назад
Ich auch...der ist echt überall!
@peterbthomas4227
@peterbthomas4227 4 года назад
Why?
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
Why why? Motivation was: scale it up, use big LEDs to have something that looks nice in an IKEA shelf. Work with hardware that doesn't need MCUs and solder a bunch of LEDs to show some lissajous figurs on the matrix.
@peterbthomas4227
@peterbthomas4227 4 года назад
@@Davedarko Fair enough. Mission accomplished.
@mikaelkarlsson9945
@mikaelkarlsson9945 4 года назад
-"Element 14, the electronic design community where you can connect and collaborate with top engineers from around the world" Where is the top engineer in this episode? Hello??
@Davedarko
@Davedarko 4 года назад
Hello! Technically it says you can find the top engineers from around the world on the "element14 Community" www.element14.com/community/welcome and this is the youtube channel. I'm not claiming to be an engineer, I'm just a maker and I always try to do something that hasn't been done (too often) before. Forrest Mims is an engineer though and his book is called "Engineer's Notebook". Do you have any feedback on the content?
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