Hand-starting a Citroën GSA - can I do it?

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Can I start my Citroën GSA on the starting handle? Let's find out!
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@stephenw2992 3 года назад

Now do it on a cold winters morning with a cold engine

@rheinerftvideo2647 3 года назад

...and nothing will happen. Had this situation with two french cars in the 1980ies.

@mfbfreak 3 года назад

Friend of mine tried it once on a freezing morning, with a flat battery. That didn't work out...

@ecutechltd 3 года назад

A French car will start on a winters morning???

@jfv65 3 года назад

@@rheinerftvideo2647 my Peugeot 404 from 1961 started just fine. I did need to set the choke just right.

@rheinerftvideo2647 3 года назад

@@jfv65 I had a Peugeot 203 from 1948 and it worked fine. In cold times I used some other oil for winter, and a charged battery all the time. The problems began with these 1970ies cars...

@AndrewwMK 3 года назад

Starter handle on such a “modern” car… the contrast is the coolest thing.. space age dash and backup starter from 1909

@volvo480 3 года назад

I've been asking for this video for a VERY long time, many thanks! These cars are so wonderfully engineered and quirky, one of the last true Citroën designs before they became very much Peugeot underneath. Though I wouldn't say no to a 1st gen BX because of the dashboard!

@paulcost6446 3 года назад

Worked in the mines in outback Australia when i was young remember me and another guy trying to hand crank start a twin cylinder diesel pump engine. Trick was one crank the other flip the compression relief levers, anyhow after one hour of unsuccessful attempts, finally got it going but alas the crank handle was still on the crank and wildly spinning around, worried it was going to fly off and possibly kill one of us, we tried to knock it off with a piece of wood. In the end had to shut it down and repeat process and make sure to pull crank handle off as it fired into life. Hmmmm Good old days LOL

@Ragnar8504 3 года назад

When I was in my early teens I had to help start the 1950s tractor on the farm where I spent my summer holidays sometimes, same procedure. The battery wasn't quite flat, so my task was to glow the engine, tell the farmer when it was ready, and flip the decompressor when he was cranking for dear life. Steyr-Puch single cylinder diesel engine from the late 50s. It had a starter but that didn't always work. Most of the time they parked it where they could roll to bump it but sometimes they had to use the handle. That tractor has another interesting feature. The glow indicator on the dash is an open element that glows red hot and the farmer abused that as a cigarette lighter :-D

@Turnbull50 3 года назад

In the 1960’s I was an apprentice motor mechanic and always warned people never to grip the starting handle tightly or it would break your thumb or wrist in those days a lot of kick backs occurred. We had this little dumper trucks with single cylinder air cooled engines that only started with the handle and sometimes after a kick back the engine would start in reverse so you ended up with one forward and three reverse gears until you stopped the engine and restarted it.

@keithdunn9026 3 года назад

watched a friend start a really old dump truck years ago & the handle stuck in when it started , (poss wrong handle) it started to bounce round in circles until the handle came out on its own , needless to say we all ran away & left it

@keithdunn9026 3 года назад

@Alfred Wedmore any two stroke engine will run backwards ,great fun

@waynekerrgoodstyle 3 года назад

Yes, I was always told to tuck my thumb in too.

@keithdunn9026 3 года назад

@Alfred Wedmore just bump start them backwards used to do it with mopeds years ago

@alanbartlett9523 3 года назад

I used to drive trucks with Gardner engines. It was quite common for them to run backwards. The dash lit up like a Christmas tree and the exhaust came out of the air intake behind the cab, great fun.

@peterriggall8409 3 года назад

I remember my Dad telling me to never put my thumbs inside the steering wheel of his Fergie tractor as if you strike something the wheel will kick back and break your thumbs. Never forgot it.

@barrylaflin8425 3 года назад

Starting Handles were very useful in the old days . From turning the engine over when adjusting the points to winding the car out of snowdrifts ( in gear ignition off of course )

@nortoninter1 3 года назад

It,s just like watching "ice cold in Alex"

@hunchanchoc8418 3 года назад

Haha - next week, Ian hand-reverses the GSA up Snowdon. But makes sure Sylvia Syms doesn't come along.

@actuallyusingmyrealnameher5061 3 года назад

That scene where they take the spark plugs out so they can get the truck back up the slope using the starting handle was the best part of the film for me 🙂

@mikemallen9378 3 года назад

Classic film

@MorristheMinor 3 года назад

My heart was in my mouth when you went to hand crank it. When I got my Morris Minor 1000, my Grandpa (and Dad) warned me about how engines can 'kick back' with the crank. In fact, my Grandpa knew a friend who went to hand start a lorry and my Granny found him rolling around on the ground in farmyard with a broken wrist thanks to the engine kicking back. Although my Dad said that he once came across an accident where the male driver was abusing the female driver of the other car. Once my Dad starting waving his Rover P4 starting handle about, the bloke calmed down immediately....

@jamesstanden1899 3 года назад

Very informative video by someone who actually knows to tuck his thumbs in. I used to only start mine in the upward stroke so that I wasn’t out of balance leaning over the starting handle.😉 The ring gear used to wear out in the GS quite routinely. So, this method was essential.😁

@IanSlothieRolfe 3 года назад

I've never hand-started a GSA but I used to have to hand start my Morris Minor for a while in winter because the battery didn't work well in the cold. Admittedly it was a smaller engine but it wasn't too hard, although the work-out certainly warmed you up! I eventually came to my senses and bought a new battery for it that had better cold cranking ability and the starting handle returned to its resting place in the boot. It was still handy having a starting handle though, for those times you left the lights on and got back to an almost dead car....

@emmajacobs5575 3 года назад

@gilburton it’s possible to pull start a beetle, too!

@visionsofhere3745 3 года назад

Good to see the little safety announcement regarding positioning of the thumb. Hardly any hand crank clips bother to mention it, and any new enthusiast will be extremely unlikely to already know it.

@bryjan51 3 года назад

Checkout" old classic car" , he done a starting handle vid this week as well on his ford pop/Anglia.

@JAY61ish 3 года назад

Watched my Dad Start our old Moggy traveller with the handle numerous times..

@mr_nice. 3 года назад

I recently added about 100ml of antifriction additive to the oil, and I can assure you that stuff works. Reduces friction and starts even easier. You'd feel it in the turning of that crank. I don't have a handle to try it in mine, but before the additive, I had a tid bit of trouble starting even with the starter. Not any more.

@rodhili3946 3 года назад

I thought starting handles dissappeared in the late 1960s. They got me out of trouble on more than one occasion

@HubNut 3 года назад

They largely did, but Citroen was producing cars with handles (2CV) until 1990, and Lada even later than that.

@BReal-10EC 3 года назад

@@HubNut But the car has an electric starter. Were there super cheap models sold without the electric starter or something?

@Ragnar8504 3 года назад

@@BReal-10EC No, the handle was always designed as a backup in case of a flat battery or knackered starter. I don't think any post-WWII car was sold without an electric starter. It was still optional on some farm and construction equipment much longer though. Dumpers without electric start were commonly used on construction sites well into the 1990s. If you want to see what starting one of those single-pot diesels in freezing temps is like, have a look at LMM's video of trying to start Humpty!

@jmdoutdoors5729 3 года назад

Great job, great car, I love Citroen's. Thank you very much.

@twocvbloke 3 года назад

I think the sprouting switchgear could be given a Bill Bailey-esque name of The Sprouting Mushroom of Control... :P

@alanlansdell7533 3 года назад

Started my old landrovers like that a couple of times for fun, never managed it with a hot engine on modern fuels.

@alansmith1770 3 года назад

A starting handle in a 1980's car I thought they stopped fitting them in the 1960's.

@alectraproject 3 года назад

Nice. How about a 2021 battery drill/impact gun? A lot of twist available with latest tech aye?

@Longestnickevaaaaaar 3 года назад

If this video made you wonder what the last car was to have a crank handle, according to my quick research, it's the Niva.

@martinholling9537 3 года назад

really enjoyed it as always! My very first car that I owned was a GSA that unfortunately turned into a flintstone mobile pretty soon... but the third car was a GSA again! I love these cars and some day will own one again! I once tried to start it with the handle as well but as it was having an ignition problem it didn´t work out...

@martinholling9537 3 года назад

btw in Germany they call the GSA steering wheel stalks "satellites", a wonderful expression I think!

@jerrytugable 3 года назад

It looks very modern for a 50 yr old design!

@jamesfrench7299 3 года назад

It would have had facelifts like new headlights and grills and sheet metal changes in it's lifetime. The original 1971 model would have looked a lot older than an 86 version. It's amazing how much mileage you can get out of one body shell. Volvo did it with the 240 series based on the late 60s 140 series and Saab with it's 900 series.

@urbanrider403 3 года назад

I remember as an apprentice starting the dumper on a cold morning,always a lethal job.

@In_memory_of_Dad 3 года назад

I really love that beautiful little GSA, you definitely need to keep her forever Ian...🙂

@ukrider4288 3 года назад

Should never have stopped putting starting handles in bloody handy if you have a flat battery

@benholroyd5221 3 года назад

Especially on EVs...

@robertdean3507 3 года назад

Had a '77 3.5 Range Rover back in the day, that had a starting handle, although never gave it a go, probably would have ended badly as I didn't know how to hold a starting handle properly, so thanks for the tip Ian, if I am ever in need of giving a car a crank then at least now I know how to hold the handle properly.

@monkehbitch 3 года назад

I'm watching with no audio, and auto generated subs, Ian, you've got perfect English for youtubes sub system. And when the car started the subs said [Applause] 😂 well done!

@mctend9108 3 года назад

Now, go back to work!

@nigelrudd670 3 года назад

The starting handle on a moggie is useful for hitting thing's as the gsa handle is I guess 🤓😉👍

@johndilloway9762 3 года назад

Yeah you can do a basil fawlty with it if the car does not start with the handle.

@wanderinggentile 3 года назад

One remembers dad's old Morris Minor, and his instructions to my pregnant mum on how to use it. Let us just say that her plan was not to return it to the boot.

@jean-pierredeclemy7032 3 года назад

I also love the drum speedo and rev counter which I had in a couple of CX. I presume it was discontinued because with a needle dial you can just glance at the angle of the needle rather than having to check numbers. It is a great shame that the ergonomic switch pods were discontinued. They should have made all other manufacturers go that way rather than trying to be like them. I did crank start various DS back in the days when I was younger and fitter and could not afford new batteries. It was a bit of a faff having to take the number plate off each time.

@MatthewJohnCrittenden 3 года назад

My first family car was a Morris Minor Traveller with a starting handle. Some not so happy memories of my Dad grappling with it in the depths of winter ... Front wing attached by Pollyfilla for reasons to complicated to go into here ...

@GTexplores 3 года назад

Hubnut challenge of the week...... How many cars are there, which can be started by cranking a starting handle........ Wait for it...... Challenge coming....... Which have front wheel drive?

@paultaylor9652 3 года назад

Love your Citroën Gsa Mr HubNut, my only problem is the miss match of trim colour, I wonder what the colour of the door cards were originally.

@HubNut 3 года назад

I think they would have been light brown.

@antw3565 3 года назад

@@HubNut Please make them light brown again

@stephenberry1205 3 года назад

We leased a GSA X1 1299 cc in 1982. It was a 5 speed and would cruise happily at 150 kph. I suspect starting from cold would not have been quite as easy...

@craigmclean8260 3 года назад

Nice informative video; I even enjoyed the catchy soundtrack at the end! My family had a number of early/mid-1960s Datsuns, and they had provisions for a starting handle. Never had to use this option; from what I understand, those early Datsuns shipped to the States had batteries too small for our really cold climates...of course, the early engines were really BMC types, built under license, I'd guess...

@chrisbaker9243 3 года назад

I loved my GS's but never used the crank. The 1220 Club Convertisseur was best with the 3 speed semi auto. Unless driving across the Alps as it did 70mph in 2nd which was a recipe for cooking the brakes. My Dyanes were often hand started. TBH an ideal family fleet was a GS and a Dyane.

@darrenwilson8042 3 года назад

From the days when car manufacturers were car designers and makers not a badge in part of a group just making pointless faux SUV's with different fronts and rears ........ Imagine when your choice was say between GSA, Maxi, R16 and so on - none of those hatchbacks could be mistaken for the other could they?

@flyingarts6765 3 года назад

My 64 TI tipo 10508 has the numbers on the front edge of the trunk opening! Wish you would have shown the instrument panel. Still love your videos.

@seansverige 3 года назад

Should have trusted you enough to realise you'd know how to hold starting handle correctly - and good job for mentioning it (but did you only mention it afterwards to add tension? Hubnut goes 'all TV' on us...) Whilst I knew that, given the mechanical layout, this theoretically possible on GS/As I didn't know Citroen had made provision for it Had to hand crank my 2CV couple times way back when, much to the amusement of my colleagues - I thought it further confirmation of it's brilliance

@martinneumann7783 3 года назад

Success! Congrats! A few years ago I tried to handstart a Renault 10 Major. The owner invited me to do that after I explained rear engine technology to the sons of a friend. The sun was burning, I was cranking. Nothing. Again. Nothing. Sweating. Again. Nothing. Then the owner with his bad back tried it. Nothing. Then he tried it with the starter. Nothing. God grave - it wasn't me! Then the old french girl came back to life; with a huge amount of electric power... 😃

@trabusas.3782 3 года назад

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@philhealey449 3 года назад

And I thought my 1982 Lada was at the end of starting handles. There's clearly a lot of valuable research needed on definitive disappearance dates for single speed wipers, starting handles, the choke, floor dip-switch, starter solenoid with the auxiliary rubber hand button, manual screen wash, opening quarterlight windows, keep-fit window winding, manual door locks, roof gutters and proper chrome bumpers. How do we cope in today's miserably under-equipped cars ? And vitally, which was the last car to have all of these features?

@Andy-sh9eq 3 года назад

The handbrake is used overhand with the release button at the finger and thumb on the right hand....if the car is LEFTHAND DRIVE!!! Citroën never bothered to change it for righthand drive

@MrOvershoot 3 года назад

Actually I came here for the GSA history 🤓 Drove a 1977 GS for a while in 1983. It wasn't mine but belonged to an old lady who lived next door. It was her late husbands, she said it felt like he was still around if the garage was empty and she could hear the car driving away. Sadly she died just over a year later and her oaf of a son sent it for scrap! His words were " It's just a shit French car that deserves to be crushed" 😮

@garyhardwick8489 3 года назад

So if you have a dodgy battery you're not stranded! I met a bloke who owned a 1930s Dennis Ace coach. Lovely little thing,with its piggy snout. It did have an electric start,but one day he did hand start it and it kicked back-damaging his wrist and thumb badly. He showed me the stitches!!

@jibjab351 3 года назад

My GS had the same weird speedo, a small cylinder which turned with numbers on it and the line was on the glass which was magified. It did not have a rev counter though. It was a Spanish model [LH drive] I think the UK GS had normal clocks. A great little car but a total rust bucket. Also the hydraulic pipes cost a fortune to replace [which was my was scrapped]

@skodakatie7341 3 года назад

Great work Mr Hubnut, early Lada’s had starting handles, sadly the later model Riva I had didn’t have one, although it still did possess the awesome 20 piece toolkit, including a tyre lever, stirrup pump, array of spanners, reversible screw driver, and an inspection light, everything you need for running repairs if stranded amidst the desolate steppes of Siberia, oh I did love that car!!❤️.

@graemew7001 3 года назад

So relieved you put the safety warning in the video. I hand cranked an MGA once to prove to myself I could do it, I used the correct placing of the thumb and was glad I did, it kicked back and didn't half make me jump.....got it started though 👍

@akersjon278 3 года назад

LOL! The early Citroens were all so quirky and special (read BONKERS...) I love that! 👍❤

@mattw8332 3 года назад

It's a shame that cannot have copyrighted music on this channel. ”Start me up” by the Rolling Stones would have been good. 😀 I love the dashboard too with the diagram of the GSA's side profile. Very of its time.

@bombakdik 3 года назад

Very much enjoy this kind of stuff. And I missed you using the word "marvellous". Glad it is back! Cheers!

@GWLAD 3 года назад

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@urshochstrasser8859 3 года назад

Btw, can’t you hand-start a 2CV as well? I know you can start the DS, if it doesn’t have the 5-speed gearbox.

@interceptor-ss8kb 3 года назад

Got distracted by that absolute hideous Chrysler PT loser I mean cruiser. 🤢 awful yank junk. The citroen is beautiful.

@LeeJonesNPT 3 года назад

I used to drive a company Land Rover (1983 SWB diesel ) in the mid eighties that I regularly had to use the starting handle, it becomes second nature very quickly so is soon as quick as using the ignition especially in winter.

@donwright3427 3 года назад

Citroen's rule ok. Just a thought. Ever considered adding an Aixam to your fleet?

@HubNut 3 года назад

Nope!

@andrewbaans7400 3 года назад

The Nissan patrol G60 was able to be started with a crank handle. The G60 patrol was built from 1961 through to the early 80s.

@macgvrs 3 года назад

I am truly amazed that feature was still built into an 80's car. Though I do have a 74' Suzuki motor cycle that has both electric start and kick start. That saved my butt once. Still seems very strange to me that they have that. When did they stop putting that into their cars? Your glowing approval of that car makes me think it would be fun to have one. Not going to happen but the thought does cross my mind.

@NSW2040 3 года назад

A very useful feature, especially if you’ve left the lights on all night by accident, had to use the crank-handle several times on my old ID19.

@jorgefernandez-mv8hu 3 года назад

That was amazing. Definitely keep your thumbs away. The same can be said for non power steering cars and trucks.We used to drive a truck that would kick the steering wheel back on potholes. Thanks for showing us how it's done.

@captaccordion 3 года назад

Hi Hubnut. I may have mentioned this before, but the design of lines with circles on the end on your warning light display was almost certainly designed on early computer generated graphics intended for printed circuit board design. I'd be quite confident that if you pulled it all apart and found a circuit board within, that it would look very similar. On crank starting, I've been tempted to take my Vanguard to car shows and charge people $1 per time for the experience of hand starting an engine. Cheers.

@660einzylinder 3 года назад

There are two, hand cranked Ruston & Hornsby 1VSH auxiliary engines in the old pumping station at work, because the engine house is symetrical along the centre line, one of them has to be cranked anti clockwise, which I never get used to.

@elbecko7969 3 года назад

The GSA looks so nice in black with white wheels and red pinstripe. I love the French touches, like 3 stud wheels, but I don't know why I like that!! I just do. I knew someone who applied a handbrake in an underhanded manner. He was the passenger at the time and thought it would be funny. The driver ended up in a coma.

@TheDeeplyCynical 3 года назад

My Dad had a Red GSA on an X plate when I was born, sadly I was too young to form any memories of it. That's a very floppy gear selector @ 2:12.

@joannaford7137 3 года назад

Careful bending over engine with your hoodie tassels as could catch,,,, always love your content,,,,

@garthjunor3027 3 года назад

"Rule of thumb" also applies to holding steering wheel on dodgy roads, and for the same reason. Kickback from hitting a bulldust-filled pothole at speed can do serious damage to malplaced thumbs.

@scatmancraig1974 3 года назад

I once owned a 1979 Lada 2101,and the comprehensive toolkit it came with also included a starting handle. It was much easier to start by hand from hot than cold though.

@p24hrsmith 3 года назад

For months I had to start my Lada 1200 on the handle when the starter broke and I didn't have money to fix it. Ok when warm but so much effort when cold. Kick back wasn't a problem as the locator was designed to kick the handle out if there was a kick back

@bondbug73 3 года назад

Such a great car is Gisella. I did want to see this. Enjoy your holiday and time out of being in the public spotlight HubNut family.

@tauncfester3022 3 года назад

Should have done this from cold on a cool morning. My father had a 1940's gasoline engine powered welder/generator with a 30 h.p. inline 4 flathead engine. I forgot it's displacement, but I could get it to start on couple of rotation with the choke on, ignition off and then a healthy pull with the ignition on and the choke at half.

@carstenweiland7896 3 года назад

Oh, you can show the dash as long as you like, I never get tired of it, best dash in the world! The wiper, light stalk things were called satellites if I recall the 1980's correctly!

@increiblepelotudo 3 года назад

Would love one here in NYC. The terrible weather raoul's shorten the life, but boy is it pretty in a quite quirky way. Great Vids!!

@stewartikin2240 3 года назад

Makes me nostalgic for my Yreg GSA. I never used the starting handle on it, but I did use the starting handle on a 2CV for a couple of months. It used to start better cold than warm. When I filled up with petrol I used to push it away from the pump to wait for the engine to cool before attempting to restart it

@dannygroom3327 3 года назад

I've just broken my thumb, following your instructions to the word only to be told at the end the thumb risk which was too late. You shall be hearing from me legal representative.

@mark_delfino 3 года назад

For the sheer joy of driving, Citroën GS! I still hum that tune sometimes, no-one understands why but I guess you do!

@Zadster 3 года назад

Any idea what the last (commonly available in Western Europe) car model with a crank handle was? This must be pretty close.

@Lee-70ish 3 года назад

Its normal to pull up not towards and with only one hand . Correct on the finger though. Ps Had a Singer Vogue get stuck in a gully . Pulled the plugs put it in reverse and hand cranked it out . The ultra slow wheel rotation was much better than using the engine. Points and valve setting TDS is so much easier with a starting handle.

@andymccabe6712 3 года назад

Very interesting! I'm also stunned that such a modern car has a starting handle! The battery died on my car recently and I found a really effortless way to get the car started - call the breakdown service and sit drinking tea until they arrived........!

@porsche356a 3 года назад

Great stuff! Ian, here is me starting my VW industrial engine with a starting handle that I have just installed in the splitty (you drove) here in Sydney. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8n9Mee4wB6A.html

@timbre7999 3 года назад

I can't get over how pretty this GSA is; seen many but Giselle just has that magic. Wonderful to see you play with one of your beloved cars, looks like a lot of fun!

@phil955i 3 года назад

I seem to remember in the motoring press of the time reading that Citroen called that cylinder with switches on their "satellite control", it was in the Visa too iirc? Surprised at how easily that started on the handle. Lovely car that, back when Citroen were still making them idiosyncratic, I absolutely adore that dashboard!

@stylophobia 3 года назад

Astonishing to think the body was designed in 1968 ... it looks most like a 1989 Vauxhall Astra .

@johndutton9739 3 года назад

Fab, I’ve got a petter diesel powered dumper and I dread starting that - nearly kills me!! That gsa looks fab

@theclappedoutdairy-man3507 3 года назад

Our twin cylinder Lister diesel driven back up generator is started by crank handle and is quite a scary process trying to crank and engage the decompression levers at the same time. Still got my thumbs!

@seancooke4127 3 года назад

Unbelievably useful trick. Good Man for having a go and it didn't go Hubnut.

@briantinkler 3 года назад

Had a Lada combi 1200 in the 1980s that had a starting handle, managed to start it (only once) on the starting handle when the battery was flat. nearly killed me.

@paulrobinson3528 3 года назад

That must be the newest car available with a crank handle? didn't know they had one. Glad you remembered to turn the ignition on first Ian lol

@twocvbloke 3 года назад

I think Lada takes that record, given they made them into the 2000s with the option to hand-crank them...

@HubNut 3 года назад

Yes, I think Lada win.

@paulrobinson3528 3 года назад

@@twocvbloke Lada lol, you would have thought crank handles would have disappeared in the 60/70s

@visionsofhere3745 3 года назад

@@paulrobinson3528 Vauxhall decided they were unnecessary for their L type - launched in 1948! I wonder how many owners got to regret that decision...

@paulrobinson3528 3 года назад

@@visionsofhere3745 Just had to google what a Vauxhall L type is :-)

@mastercylinder1939 3 года назад

If you wouldn’t have been able to start it, you would have had to turn in all your HubNut merchandise and moniker!

@danr1920 3 года назад

I could be wrong, but I think it's been almost 100 years that you could get a hand start car in the U.S.

@chrisdowns1987 3 года назад

That dash is utterly crackers! Topped by the mad parking brake 🤣 I’d never get bored of it either! Is it a pair of cam belts or one big belt? Vive le difference!

@HubNut 3 года назад

Two belts.

@thomasalbrecht5914 3 года назад

The parking brake is a last-minute design change to the GS. The car was supposed to get a 2CV style gear lever, and the dash was designed with that in mind. Then management changed their mind and wanted a stick on the floor (it was 1970 after all, and everything but on-the-floor gear change was supposed old hat). The spot between the seats was taken by the handbrake though, which needs to work on the front axle as an e-brake because hydropneumatics. The only way to put the shifter there was to put the handbrake on the dash instead, which was very straightforward. The only really daft design question that came out of this was they ended up putting the radio between the seats so you need to look down to see the dial, and read it sideways. But then they did the same on the SM, so it’s probably a temporary dogma of Citroën interior design in the late 1960s - it would have been possible in both GS and SM to design a spot for a radio in the middle of the dash.

@chrisdowns1987 3 года назад

@@thomasalbrecht5914 Thank you, I didn't know that! Definitely need to go to more shows this year and have a good poke around, the differences between manufactures and models is always fascinating

@d2factotum 3 года назад

My flatmate at university tried to start his Morris 1000 Traveller on the handle once. Unfortunately, the way that car was designed, the socket for the handle was right underneath the radiator, and when he slipped and the handle came out of the socket, it ripped a hole right through the bottom and let all the coolant out. Not his finest hour, that.

@adrianh765 3 года назад

My first car was a Renault dauphine gordini that had a starting handle which was used on many occasions. Mainly because I was too mean to get new 6v battery. Ha Ha

@bentullett6068 3 года назад

Starting handle videos are always fun especially when you get someone called Lawrie on them trying to start a old lister powered dumper truck or a old diesel locomotive. Ian proves its easy.

@carllawrence787 3 года назад

Very interesting and good mention of kick backs, which could result in broken thumb or wrist or even something worse!

@johnhunt2388 3 года назад

My first car was a 1938 Morris 8 which I bought in 1960 and that was able to be started with a crank handle also which I had to do a few times but that is the only one.

@MegaSkypes 3 года назад

I still start my 1976 Swb series 3 LandRover with the starting handle!

@Rockythefishman 3 года назад

Years ago I almost broke my hand trying to hand start an Austin 7. My dad laughed so much I thought he was going to wet himself

@samuraifool912 3 года назад

Interesting video as always.! Not wishing to "Nit Pick' but u cheated by starting the Car first to Demo the Rev counter. But being fair, you did Demonstrate it is 'Do Able.' I have memories of my Father Trying to Hand Start his A30 or A35 ( or thats what I think it was, being all of 7yrs Old) when I was a Nipper. Around 1962 in a Very Snowy Environment. As he lost his Footing and landed on his Arse. It was the First time I heard the 'F word' from Dads mouth. And even Worse, I laughed bringing forth a 'Vigorous Finger Pointing' and "That will be Enough From you. Thank you..!!" The Drive was Uncomfortably Silent for a Fair few miles..!! Until his Fuse had Cooled a Little. Thankfully my Father was all Bark, no Bite. Ex Royal Marine, took no Back Chat..!! Miss him something Awful..! Again HubNut Thx for the Memories. No Hand Crank on my Transverse Engine..!😕 Cheers from Downunder. 😎

@HubNut 3 года назад

I didn't really cheat, as I filmed it out of sequence. ;-) The hand-starting took place before the interior tour.

@scottishcarenthusiastsandtrain 3 года назад

Great video, I never realised you could do this on a GSA.

@billh230 3 года назад

Yah, all Citroens with a north-south mounted motor through the end of 2CV production in 1990. They started getting away from that beginning with the CX.