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-13 Celsius Citroen Gs Cold Strart from 1976 French car #coldstart

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@desmondoflynn2862
@desmondoflynn2862 4 месяца назад
Hello! Basic rule with the Citroen GS / CX / Xantia / XM suspension: NEVER EVER leave the front wheels at an angle to the car, It damages the suspension lines and the brake lines. ALWAYS leave the front wheels parallel to the body of the car when parking up for any length of time.
4 месяца назад
Xantia and XM's yes (especially for strut tops), but not on GS's (everything is fixed : front struts & front brakes too, on the gearbox). On a CX you mostly can't because of the very common Diravi.
@matrix54190
@matrix54190 4 месяца назад
It's normal like that,in Rumania🫣🙃😂!!
@user-si1dr8wo7s
@user-si1dr8wo7s 4 месяца назад
​@@matrix54190 RO Rumania
@theunisnl
@theunisnl 4 месяца назад
I don't think he cares if you already see him handling the car with a cold engine and then going full throttle
@sofianeboukhalfa2034
@sofianeboukhalfa2034 3 месяца назад
.jchhun
@marlonjohnfreyburger6242
@marlonjohnfreyburger6242 4 месяца назад
Les voiture du temps où on pouvait tout bricoler avec une facilité incroyable, la simplicité, aujourd’hui ils nous oblige à les jeter à la casse.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Yes you are right , Citroen gs is a briliant car.
@yannickl5976
@yannickl5976 3 месяца назад
T'as jamais changé les bougies d'une GS, toi....
@MrTransalpin
@MrTransalpin 3 месяца назад
Une bonne mécanique avec 4 cylindres à plat, héritée du Boxer inventé par Ferdinand Porsche, pour les VW et les avions monoplace, avec ses pistons à l' horizontale, le lancer mécanique de l' hélice était facile, avec un meilleur taux de compression que les moteurs classiques avec 4 cylindres en ligne
@FRANCE64ALBERT
@FRANCE64ALBERT 2 месяца назад
@@yannickl5976 en effet merdique je confirme j ai bossé chez citroen neuves sur le parc une seule sur 4 démarrait le s autres fallait démonter le s bougies trop d arrivée d essence c etait leur défault
@hbor77
@hbor77 4 месяца назад
What a great car, love this version. My dad had just one like that
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
O thank you!
@lucherve6169
@lucherve6169 4 месяца назад
Certains la décriaient, moi je l aime bien cette GS, c est comme une petite CX. Elle a une bonne bouiĺle.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
@charwinchris
@charwinchris 4 месяца назад
Du jour au lendemain à disparu de nos route.
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
Kasburuká
@carstenweiland7896
@carstenweiland7896 4 месяца назад
My Mum had one till 1985, it was a fantastic car to travel in, not very fast but comfy and the distance just melted away without any fuss, the car world went in a wrong direction.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
O yes this is a nice smooth car.
@MiguelSA-kc8ir
@MiguelSA-kc8ir 4 месяца назад
No lo aceleres en frío!!!!!
@paga123
@paga123 4 месяца назад
Hi thank you. But I had got one student friend in the 80's who drove her grandma Citroen GS from 1971: in these cold conditions, it was an other story to start it and often "starting spray" was obligatory; initially, her grandma had an internal pre-heating system in her GS (completely new in France in this time), but this system had broken and the warming of the car was long, but necessary with the half-automatic system .....But I think the following models were better. Thanks again to maintain on life this great car !
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
This one alway starts great in winter. You are welcome!
@SylvainRaoul-nr4no
@SylvainRaoul-nr4no 4 месяца назад
Magnifique la GS Beautiful sound flat 4
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@cx.silver.bullet
@cx.silver.bullet 4 месяца назад
Sounds this car makes are awesome :D
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@surferks1
@surferks1 4 месяца назад
Freunde von mir hatten so einen in der Zeit. Ein schönes Auto.😊😊😊
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@kamelouldbouaza9564
@kamelouldbouaza9564 3 месяца назад
J avais la même c est une voiture confortable et la sécurité etait de mise un plaisir a conduire .
@tulliogarzetti1806
@tulliogarzetti1806 4 месяца назад
Fantastica GS una vera Citroen!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
🏋
@laurenthoutan8484
@laurenthoutan8484 4 месяца назад
Quelle belle voiture cette GS ! Je l’adore !
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
cinco lei
@user-du3rs5pg5t
@user-du3rs5pg5t Месяц назад
У нас была такая, её пригнали в сибирь, при попытке завести в сибирский мороз, замёрзший пластиковый вентилятор охлаждения двигателя разлелелся на части... Местные умельцы потом выплавляли из пластика самодельный...
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 Месяц назад
🏋
@Johannes_Brahms65
@Johannes_Brahms65 3 месяца назад
This video is art!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Thank You! :)
@christinajoachim386
@christinajoachim386 4 месяца назад
Please drive in the normal Position, the Lever of Suspension levels is the ahead Position. Gs/a haven't a low Position. There are just normal, middle high ( Velocity max 30 to 40 km/h) and maximum high (only Step-Velocity) Adjustment. ❤❤
@xavier9147
@xavier9147 4 месяца назад
Very interesting car, first serie with the "pointed rear lights". I recommend covering it or bringing it inside during the wet season. Anti-corrosion of the 70s isn't very effective, and because its suspension, too close to the ground
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
I will put it in garage
@erikschimmel6223
@erikschimmel6223 3 месяца назад
Love your video and your car. I was 2 times in Roemenië. Love your country deffinitly in the wintertime
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Thank you!:)
@damiantobiaszapater2376
@damiantobiaszapater2376 3 месяца назад
Me encanta ese coche. Yo tengo el Ami 8 Familiar 😊😊 pero el Gs y Gsa son señores automóviles!!!!!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
:)
@Mephiszto966
@Mephiszto966 4 месяца назад
A jó öreg citrom! ❤
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
@robstirling3173
@robstirling3173 4 месяца назад
A great little car!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Thank You!
@ovidiuovi600
@ovidiuovi600 3 месяца назад
2:32 - 2:45 I love this car because it make very beautiful sounds when is starting hard 😋❤
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Yes:)
@ovidiuovi600
@ovidiuovi600 3 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 I love all time when you upload the videos with cars when is starting hard ❤️ I'm watching on your channel all time to check for this type of videos ! You're great with this videos !
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Thank you!@@ovidiuovi600
@Rotterdam93
@Rotterdam93 4 месяца назад
Wonderful car great video
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Thank You!
@Dieselschlucker1312
@Dieselschlucker1312 3 месяца назад
Bei den Temperaturen stellt man die Wischerblätter auf und pflegt zuvor die Türdichtungen.
@benoitfinet4069
@benoitfinet4069 4 месяца назад
Je me souviens dans les années 80 dans l'est de la France les températures😮 descendaient souvent à - 10 - 20, je debranchai la batterie et la rentrer dans la maison Pour démarrer le matin, je tournais le moteur avec la manivelle, j' essuyai les fils de bougies et je priai pour qu'elle démarre, j'avais encore 20 bornes à faire pour arriver au boulot Autre avantage le chauffage était rapide et la suspension en position haute pouvait vous sortir d'un mauvais pas congères par exemple Mais bon ça consommait 10 l/100km pour un moteur de 1220 cm3 et l'allumage à faire tous les ans, le pot d'échappement tous les 2-3ans et je ne parle pas encore de la rouille Heureusement les choses ont changé
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
🏋
@paga123
@paga123 3 месяца назад
Merci pour ce souvenir. J'ai une tata qui conduisait une GS 71 à convertisseur: très agréable sur route pour des longs trajets par tous les temps; mais l'hiver elle avait du mal à démarrer et le système convertisseur demandait une chauffe du moteur pour ne pas caller, du coup pour les courts trajets, elle galerait; quand j'etais gamin, j'aimais être conduit par elle 😊 Mais je crois que les modèles de GS ont ensuite bien progressé en fiabilite ! Aujourd'hui, tout cela a bien changé...
@Jordan-bd7pp
@Jordan-bd7pp 3 месяца назад
Les choses ont changé en pire
@colonelparcoeur
@colonelparcoeur 4 месяца назад
My very first car it was a GS special SW from 05-80 one of the last produced
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
O yes, they are nice cars.
@SuperDigitalchris
@SuperDigitalchris 4 месяца назад
Amestec foarte bogat, aproape ca se simte mirosul de benzina nearsa.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Nu este bogat, ie ok.
@gsaddict5712
@gsaddict5712 4 месяца назад
Pour les grands froids, il faut mettre l'écran de calandre , elle se réchauffera plus vite ...
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@LocojustLoco
@LocojustLoco 4 месяца назад
Quand on ne roule pas, la différence est minime...
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
Ugy van, a foszfor kiesett az ekránból nevednapján
@paddycitron5925
@paddycitron5925 4 месяца назад
Il faut repousser un peu le starter dès que le moteur commence à hoqueter... il doit tourner rond, et accéléré par le starter...
@fran6389
@fran6389 4 месяца назад
C'est clair, il faut le repousser dès que possible : là, on entend bien que le moteur est gavé d'essence, c'est pas terrible...
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@francoissoufflard9172
@francoissoufflard9172 4 месяца назад
Il pige rien c'est un roum's 😂
@jeanlouisgirand8505
@jeanlouisgirand8505 4 месяца назад
Ouais elle tourne comme une patate et il la brusque pour rien même pas eu le temps de chauffer !
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
@@jeanlouisgirand8505 🏋
@xj6jaguar86
@xj6jaguar86 4 месяца назад
Can you do another where you just leave it to slowly stall out , would love to see how long it would run for on full choke..
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Yes,I can try it later,
@xj6jaguar86
@xj6jaguar86 3 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 When will you do please ?
@mehrzahl2219
@mehrzahl2219 3 месяца назад
Washing all the oil from the cylinders!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
ok @@mehrzahl2219
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 4 месяца назад
Nice again
@Jose-us5um
@Jose-us5um 4 месяца назад
Eu assistindo isso a 37 graus de calor...Brazil
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@valnight8741
@valnight8741 4 месяца назад
Какая интересная приборная панель.
@mikelowrey5275
@mikelowrey5275 4 месяца назад
Nice car
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@kmlrl
@kmlrl 4 месяца назад
araban çok orjinal maşallah :)
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@pawe6682
@pawe6682 4 месяца назад
Piąkny samochód , produkowany w czasach gdy projektowali je stylisci z pasją a nie księgowi.
@marinelaldea9522
@marinelaldea9522 3 месяца назад
Felicitări pentru mașină
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Multumesc!
@madcarew5168
@madcarew5168 3 месяца назад
Desperately needed car in 82...mates wifes car..knocked about,norton exhaust at rear,but ran it for 2 years and got £40 when scrapped!
@stephaneauger1036
@stephaneauger1036 3 месяца назад
Le démarreur 🔥sert de réchauffement moteur en même temps 🪄🔥✌️deux démarreurs par saison hivers 😎pas ci pire
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Oui :)
@ColdCars16
@ColdCars16 3 месяца назад
Wow, It's so mesmerizing, do you allow me to use a part of your video? I will credit you, of course !
@paulgroves5213
@paulgroves5213 4 месяца назад
Yeah push the choke half in
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
I will do it nex time
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 4 месяца назад
What's so special about a car starting at -13c ?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Did you wath it? than you should now it...
@CaptHollister
@CaptHollister 4 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 I did watch it, that is why I asked the question. There is nothing special about starting a car at -13c.
@chuquicamata
@chuquicamata 4 месяца назад
Se pone en marcha bien, porque no tiene radiador de agua.
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
A pompa bé van akadva a hűtő melé, èrtem én hej .
@rafaelcarmonasanchez6676
@rafaelcarmonasanchez6676 4 месяца назад
El mejor coche que e tenido y eso de que no andaba le ponia a 170 de marcador y los frenos los mejores que e conocido y e tenido un bx y un cx.
@patrickrouiller8125
@patrickrouiller8125 4 месяца назад
my firts car 💪 in 1980
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Nice Car
@grandcarriage1
@grandcarriage1 3 месяца назад
How long does it take to warm up the insides with an air cooled motor?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Around five minutes.
@nicolasstanoe6881
@nicolasstanoe6881 3 месяца назад
How fast started😨😨😨😨😨
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
If the engine is almost new it starts easy.
@josecarvalho1008
@josecarvalho1008 4 месяца назад
granda máquina, eu tive um ,era Citroen GS X3,MAS ME FOI ROUBADO, EM LISBOA PORTUGAL, KUANDO APARECE TA TODO DESTRUÍDO...😢😢😢
@claudedjawoye6345
@claudedjawoye6345 3 месяца назад
Air cooled engine helps a bit
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Yes.
@LocojustLoco
@LocojustLoco 4 месяца назад
4:20 time to push back the choke...
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Yes:)
@user-of-apocalypse
@user-of-apocalypse 3 месяца назад
In which city is this happening? I mean that there is a lot of snow. Where is it?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
It is a small village called Csikszentmiklos in Transylvania / Romania country .
@user-of-apocalypse
@user-of-apocalypse 3 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 Romania? Really? This is a dream of all my live... Romania. Thank you very much!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
You can see on teh numberplate as well Ro @@user-of-apocalypse
@roberthalasz8653
@roberthalasz8653 4 месяца назад
Hol készült a felvétel, tisztelt Uram?
@jybe75013
@jybe75013 3 месяца назад
why is the air filter missing ?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
I just order one does not arrived
@jegguty
@jegguty 3 месяца назад
Rotary gs o 2 cilynder?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
4 cilynder
@1weinigschuim
@1weinigschuim 3 месяца назад
sounds like a 8 liter diesel engine
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
It is cold.
@senzitiv
@senzitiv 4 месяца назад
Deci mașina e în România
@sandorfekete2913
@sandorfekete2913 4 месяца назад
Hello! Eladó?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Szia! Igen 3500 eu
@latortuedugaming7737
@latortuedugaming7737 4 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 in Franta l-ai putea vinde mai scump😅
@erikg.2666
@erikg.2666 4 месяца назад
Carb icing!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@ichbins8588
@ichbins8588 3 месяца назад
my first car in 1985 was a small Citroen Visa with the 650ccm two cylinder air cooled engine, even starting at temperatures lower than -20°C was never a problem. The only thing was, because of the air cooling, when you were driving, your breath was freezing at the front window even the heating was fully opened and the heat exchangers were in very good condition (as the whole car was). Therefore, at extreme winter temperatures, I had to slow down, shifting from fourth to third gear both for lowering speed and to increase rpm to get more hot air to the windshield. This was especially exiting while driving on the Autobahn, so I switched on the hazard warning signal, pretending I had a technical problem. Truck drivers were not amused^^ Good grief, when you are 18, you are so clueless about what might happen because of your stupid actions! But, to be honest, -13°C is not very impressive for starting a car.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
Thank you for you experience with your Citroen ! for some people it is ipresive the -13 espetialy in Spain.
@robinprice4877
@robinprice4877 4 месяца назад
Would love to see you doing a cold start without using any choke.
@markoni1089
@markoni1089 4 месяца назад
C était l identité originale Citroën avec un design avant gardiste et la suspension hydraulique Malheureusement cela n existe plus aujourd'hui
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
@electricbassist8009
@electricbassist8009 4 месяца назад
1:50 en esta parte pensé que te había atacado The thing.
@dailynothing-ps2ow
@dailynothing-ps2ow 4 месяца назад
Jobb ha eladod amíg még gyúl..
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 4 месяца назад
Megvecem , hánylej?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Vecek neked lakaset, s meg aztmondjak hooooogy
@Mephiszto966
@Mephiszto966 4 месяца назад
Azt már ne - ha csak rá nem ún. Ebben a kivitelben módfelett ritka, hiszen a rozsda ette, az emberek csak nyargalták, errefelé már csak veterán találkozókon látható, akkor is csak ritkán. Macerás az olaj/levegő "rugózás", de megfelelően gondos kezeléssel, karbantartással, rozsdamentesítve még az unokákat is kiszolgálhatja a kis Giza.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Igazad van@@Mephiszto966
@Mephiszto966
@Mephiszto966 4 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 köszönöm szépen.
@Taindog
@Taindog 4 месяца назад
...my father had the 1100cc gs, what a piece of junk , constantly problems with the suspension balls, distribution,and carburettor sub pressure membrane...he sold it,and got a 1988 3door Toyota starlet 1.0 ... problems solved...
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
This one never had a problem even now. You have to know how to use these cars and maintain.
@Peky81
@Peky81 4 месяца назад
garage this car ok
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
ok:)
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 4 месяца назад
Yes
@sergevanneville2732
@sergevanneville2732 4 месяца назад
Hello, Nevers a old car outside ! Rust kill it. Built or find a garage.....
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
Yes I will.
@trade124ltd7
@trade124ltd7 3 месяца назад
Easy to say,but not everyone can afford garage, especially people who don't leave in houses .
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
You are right@@trade124ltd7
@sergevanneville2732
@sergevanneville2732 3 месяца назад
@@trade124ltd7 i pay for 5 DS inside. No rust !
@rammsteinmoreau3259
@rammsteinmoreau3259 4 месяца назад
Enlève le starter maintenant
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
🏋
@LocojustLoco
@LocojustLoco 4 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 he said "push the choke" ;)
@ottonormalverbrauch3794
@ottonormalverbrauch3794 3 месяца назад
A cold start with a warm battery is cheating but clever cheating.
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
It does not matter cold or not , I can see you has not got a clue about cold start.
@ottonormalverbrauch3794
@ottonormalverbrauch3794 3 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 I can see you have no clue about the voltage and current a warm battery can deliver as opposed to a cold one
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
You are realy clever :)) @@ottonormalverbrauch3794
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
and it will warm up the whole engine and the oil as well in the engine?
@ottonormalverbrauch3794
@ottonormalverbrauch3794 3 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 No but it will turn the engine around faster with the thicker oil and provide a bigger spark. A faster rotating engine gets better air flow through the carburator venturi(s) and a better and finer fuel mixture, resulting in easier starting. Graphs for inner resistance of lead/ acid batteries vs temperature can easily be found. Thanks for the compliment.
@mumpf06
@mumpf06 2 месяца назад
Lass den GS doch erstmal warm werden bevor Du auf ihm rumprügelst!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 Месяц назад
Yes
@philippelebreton2356
@philippelebreton2356 4 месяца назад
La pire MERDE ! Que Citroën ait construit ! ..........sans commentaires 😢😢
@guillaumeromain6694
@guillaumeromain6694 4 месяца назад
En atrendant elle se porte bien, vu son age... Véhicule tout à fait révolutionnaire en son temps, contrairement aux merdes en plastique actuelles
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
Da da si Citroen Russesc
@frankrault3190
@frankrault3190 3 месяца назад
BS
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 3 месяца назад
🏋
@MrToluen60
@MrToluen60 4 месяца назад
C'est scandaleux de laisser une voiture cette âge là pourrir dehors !
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
🏋
@Martin-jc8kk
@Martin-jc8kk 4 месяца назад
Pourir?
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
?@@Martin-jc8kk
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
No
@Martin-jc8kk
@Martin-jc8kk 4 месяца назад
@@sandorelo1302 i don't understand why people get mad, of all the GS i've seen from my own few were working, obviously this one isn'y rotting in a field and is being taken care of, it looks good.
@skorpion5559
@skorpion5559 2 месяца назад
TRAKTOR !!!!!!!!
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 2 месяца назад
:)
@FRICKWilhelmJosef-ph8kg
@FRICKWilhelmJosef-ph8kg 4 месяца назад
Kein Problem mit meinem Opel vectra Caravan minus 36 sprang sofort an😂und 😂😂 weiter
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
:)
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
Te betyár cagy uvágá
@FRICKWilhelmJosef-ph8kg
@FRICKWilhelmJosef-ph8kg 4 месяца назад
Ach in Rumänien 12 grad minus kein Problem. Sogar mein Alter Dacia in Rumänien springt ohne Probleme an. IN RUMÄNIEN 😂😂😂😂
@sandorelo1302
@sandorelo1302 4 месяца назад
yah :)
@mukipeter2476
@mukipeter2476 3 месяца назад
Iden me a tedé fulir gép.
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