Handicapping Two-Year-Old Thoroughbreds 

Was a clocker back in the day 4 sports eye.remember them? Being the new kids on the block back then we shared the clockers booth with DRF. Caught so many good scores with 2 year old first time starters. I will not mention names here but there was DRF clocker who till this day was like the secretariat of clockers. He is long gone but was a master at spotting talent with babies. He was also a player if u get my drift. As an example I would clock a 2 year baby in 58.4 I would then turn to him and say what did u get him in? 101.4 handily. Need i say more.at the time I was the new guy and being from the streets of Brooklyn and queens I caught on right away and did not wanna ruin anyone's gig. So I just played dumb and never questioned this guy. I would see him at the track pounding horses with the sam machine. Got a million stories but I just wanted to say I really dont trust workouts with unrated 2 year olds making their debut.im sure its alot more legit today but again what I saw this clocker was unreal!!!! This guy was a diamond in the ruff. Even at times I would clock a baby with a fast work he would laugh .it ain't the time of the work I came to learn its HOW the baby worked !! Wish everyone good days at the track!@

Yes, you have to out-work people! Loved the show, I'm very curious about your book, and have just ordered it from Amazon, I too am very into my deep dives with pedigree, and I love to handicap and bet MSW races and Maiden tags too , so I know I will connect with the material in your book, I'm thinking we may have some of the same principals and approach towards our capping, I spend long hours in race review and bloodlines capping, and of course evaluating all the workouts prior to and after their first starts, I feel you could have mentioned how often we find big overlays in MSW races, both in Open Company and State Bred races

Always enjoy the education that is provided at PTW. BIG fan of 2YO EdgeMan and am enjoying the 2YO learning process while making a few bucks. Thanks guys! 👊🏼

Great interview it’s a pity that Shane Wi-Fi cut out frequently making it hard to understand at times

Thank you for the show Jon really appreciate it! I always take into account and read his articles on past the wire website! I found it very interesting about his take on Munning’s, I wonder if Jack Christopher was his best male off Munning’s & how will his babies do. Can 2Yo EdgeMan start doing Turfway park with there 2 year olds in the fall? Some nice babies have came from Turfway and translated to the dirt. Horse I’ve been very very high on since his start Encino and he transferred to the dirt with a bang first out ( I think this horse needs to be on watchlist going into this summer). I loved loved his pedigree and imo he was the most versatile horse going into the Kentucky Derby but he had to scratched due to a soft tissue strain.

Way to go Jon ..another bad ass interview. Shane i am purchasing your book today, take the profits and upgrade your audio/video set up, appreciate you all. Gracias.

Great discussion! I learned a lot.

Could good magic be the top sire with his early crop with . Belmont ,derby win

Really good show Jon. Aside from the interesting 2yold handicapping topic, check out the bloodlines on the Dam's side for Sierra Lione and Forever Young. No wonder they are so fast.

Thanks for the info!

I always thought the first rule taught in clockers school is that 46:4 equals 50

Bernie Bond was the best trainer of 2 year olds in my life time he had some great battles with old Barclay tagg

Great show as always

My hard earned Value opinions on betting Babies. First, wait til they going at least 5 furlong. 2nd look for workouts like a Furlong per day for 30 days, no matter the time. So..5/12 4fur...5/17 5fur...5/23 4 fur ..5/ 28 5fur..6/4 5 fur...6/9 4 fur..6/12 3 fur. Race.....now, if in for any kind of tag this next pattern is deadly. I learned it 35 years ago and its$......5/17 36..3fur.5/22 4 fur 47...5/28 5fur 1:03...6/ 5 ..6fur1:16...6/10. 5fur 1:04. They found out it's a fast horse on 5/22 and5/28. They wanna sneak it in for a tag so they go slow Ling works b cuz most people are only gonna see 1:04 and beg off. Very lucrative but you got to wait for it. Great show. Valuable tidbits. 2bies can make $ for a sharp ballsy player.

Own of muth said he starts with 50 horses each year and spends over 10 million

Great interview love betting babys .Love betting out of town trainers i know excel with babies.

Bolt d oro started out with a bang.But has leveled off a bit.

Owner of muth

Numerous audio flat spots in this videoclip made it annoying to listen to. I gave-up!