Hands-On: TPCast Wireless VR for HTC Vive

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We go hands-on with TPCast, the wireless upgrade accessory for the HTC Vive virtual reality headset. Here are our early impressions, along with insight learned about the device's wireless range, ergonomics, and expected battery life from TPCast's co-founder. This might have been our favorite thing at CES 2017!
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@colhapablap 7 лет назад

still genuinely surprised that a viable, low-latency wireless VR solution is coming to market so soon. gah, that TPCast and new strap/headphones combo looks SO tempting. "indistinguishable from the tethered experience" - norm. impressive. most impressive.

@AlbertoMartinez765 7 лет назад

wonder how long before other companies copy all this into 1 system instead of expensive add-ons?

@DriveCancelDC 7 лет назад

I won't be surprised if TPCast get brought into a partnership or bought out by HTC, clearly Valve and HTC are very impressed to be giving them all this PR

@colhapablap 7 лет назад

drivecancel that's what i'm expecting as well. and i hope others create similar/better wireless tech or combine all of this into a new product. plenty of room for competition and advancement in the VR space. Gen-1.5 is in full swing right now with the Vive.

@AlmightyUniden 7 лет назад

col. hapablap I'm suddenly pretty happy I was so broke to get the gen 1. Gen 1.5 or 2 seems to be leaps and bounds better in terms user usability.

@lolindirlink 7 лет назад

3:25 also notice how small and seemingly empty the transmitter (Edit; receiver lol) is! it'll be easy going from this, to 2 or 3 times smaller when it's build in.

@nsignific 7 лет назад

I love how you ask all the right questions. Good job, Tested.

@aBrightDarknessHD 7 лет назад

Norm might be the best tech interviewer ever!

@Slurm_Daddy92 7 лет назад

Graphluid that is a fact!

@brandon9271 7 лет назад

Graphluid Norm is great. unfortunately so many tech journalists don't appear to be techies at all and it drives me bonkers.

@johnqiu1659 7 лет назад

Lol, rip VR backpack...

@prltqdf9 7 лет назад

To be fair, VR backpacks were always doomed to be a short-lived stepping stone product.

@deanlillie7140 7 лет назад

They still have the niche for commercial applications in large scale VR installations, but that's about it.

@2462bf2 7 лет назад

VR backback isn't just about "VR" It''s just a powerful laptop without a screen.... There are plenty more applications for it other than VR.

@Lurkz_ 7 лет назад

I would love to here 'plenty more' of the applications for half a laptop in a bag George?

@2462bf2 7 лет назад

Anything you can do with a computer you can do with this.... It's that simple, do I need to explain to you what a computer can do? Go on the internet, play games, browse porn, make a word document, make a spreadsheet, draw a picture, watch porn, look at photos, send an email, listen to music, watch more porn... Any more?

@ceasormayhem101 7 лет назад

GOOD QUESTIONS!!! These are all questions I have and even some I didn't even think of.

@TesserLink 7 лет назад

damn 2ms wireless video stream. thats impressive for the HD 90hz content. that might make VR more interesting to more people.

@johnqiu1659 7 лет назад

SHADOWxWOLF 2560*1440

@anglegaming6 7 лет назад

2160x1200* But yeah, A lot more then HD (720P) And just shows how amazing it truly is

@johnqiu1659 7 лет назад

GamesDruggie also 2 of them

@anglegaming6 7 лет назад

Yes there are 2 monitors. BUT, That's the overall resolution. The resolution per monitor is 1080x1200 per monitor.

@wolves44445 7 лет назад

So much progress so quickly. I guess I'm jumping in at the Vive 2.0

@Q974 7 лет назад

NeonR3D HTC said Vive 2 is not coming any time soon

@wolves44445 7 лет назад

NA really? Well good to know. Thanks

@saulgoodman612 7 лет назад

+NA, that's great to hear, I was worried to spend $800 just for the vive2 to come out next year

@elev8dity 7 лет назад

Doubt it. Been plenty of videos of companies promoting alternative tracking solutions, and so far lighthouse is much more accurate and reliable. Maybe in 2 to 4 years.

@cervidae3359 7 лет назад

I feel really bad for that guy and how much of a hard time he was having talking

@drebinfrank5364 7 лет назад

yes yes, you are right.. Thats right... Yes, good question

@pumpuppthevolume 7 лет назад

sac396 now imagine yourself talking chinese mandarin or whatever

@PumatSol 7 лет назад

sac396 honestly there's no reason to feel bad for him, obviously English is his second language and he did a great job under a lot of pressure to perform. I know there's no way I'd be able to speak Spanish that clearly if I had to. I applaud his confidence to be willing to represent his product and his company despite the language barrier.

@kwa_nguyen 7 лет назад

he did great! dont feel bad :)

@JohnA... 7 лет назад

Maybe you should feel bad at how undereducated and less worldly americans are, few are fluent enough to speak in another language and there are plenty who have issues properly speaking/reading/writing in the one language they are native to. I'd say he did just fine for a second language and in a pressure situation such as that.

@Favmir 7 лет назад

Norm is asking all the important questions...he's a really good tech interviewer.

@ianyboo 7 лет назад

this right here is the primary reason I didn't jump onto VR in the first generation. Wireless was inevitable and is going to absolutely be the standard in the future.

@anlumo1 7 лет назад

The surprising thing about this is that it's an addon to the existing system, no need to buy a new headset.

@aaron4820 7 лет назад

If everyone thought the way you did, the project would receive no funding and crashed and burned. Early adopters are the reason we get to have nice things.

@ianyboo 7 лет назад

aaron4820 "if" being the keyword there. And since that's not the case I'm free to wait a bit and use my limited funds to get a product that I can enjoy at the right time for me.

@aaron4820 7 лет назад

Ian G Of course, never suggested you aren't free to do so, just pointing out the role of early adopters.

@ianyboo 7 лет назад

aaron4820 fair enough, I'm a huge fan of early adopters :)

@GregzVR 7 лет назад

This is why I love Tested's VR videos. Asking the right questions, right off the bat.

@ProtoPerson 7 лет назад

3 words for this new headset, hell... fucking... YES :P

@ProtoPerson 7 лет назад

I wonder who actually looks at what I say

@R0ndras 7 лет назад

Isn't a new headset. TPcast is just something you attach to the headset and the headset itself is just a new design but is the same one.

@AFTLiveStream 7 лет назад

It is not a new headset... its a new accesory for the headset.. and that is fucking awesome

@thetimelords911 7 лет назад

its not a new headset. Its a new accessory for it

@Lee_zus 7 лет назад

The epitome of a great Tested interview. I think we all shared Norm's skepticism about this product when it was announced, but Norm asked all the right questions and the knowledgeable TPCast rep gave the answers we were hoping for. Definitely psyched for this.

@rookcastle3743 7 лет назад

Norm, you're the best at what you do. Your excitement was palpable, but your questions were right on point. This makes me even more excited to upgrade my Vive.

@Gameplay-Only 7 лет назад

So so pleased that you said it was indistinguishable from the wired version :D

@Woopass90 7 лет назад

Thanks Norm. I love your passion for VR. I get the feeling from some of the other tech/gaming journos that they think VR is a fad like 3d TVs. I can see you, like me really love VR and get the feeling we are on the tip of something very special.

@reemlsilkworm 7 лет назад

Good old Norm, always asks the important questions we all want to know. Legend.

@bilawal 7 лет назад

1 - 2 ms latency with a 90hz uHD signal delivered wirelessly... Faster than WiGig. Damn. VR backpacks just become obsolete before they even hit the shelves.

@amberco21 6 лет назад

$500. Yeah no VR backpacks ain't dying yet.

@davemustaine4866 5 лет назад

Have you seen the price for vr backpacks?

@LordOfJazz 7 лет назад

Now I'm getting interested again. Well done to this company.

@OminousPinapple 7 лет назад

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@colhapablap 7 лет назад

OminousPineapple i guess tested rly needs that double youtube ad revenue. 😁 pretty sure this has accidentally(?) happened in a couple of their other videos.

@tested 7 лет назад

+OminousPineapple sorry, that was a video export error. checking to see if we can trim it via RU-vid.

@BromodTV 7 лет назад

OminousPineapple damn it Sony vegas

@SA-ne1re 7 лет назад

col. hapablap lol ikr

@colhapablap 7 лет назад

Alt u r correct, and i was just joking about that. it was just an accident due to software error.

@kreebog 7 лет назад

Nice review - thanks for not backing off on the tough questions and for testing signal interruption!

@partouchelab4592 7 лет назад

one of the best TPCast review yet. Great Job Norm!

@evolicious 7 лет назад

I need to buy all these products when released! Can't wait!

@tehsimo 7 лет назад

Norm! thank you for being one of the hand full of people who are capable of asking the real low level tech detail questions!

@markellison24 7 лет назад

This guy is awesome. Great job interviewing him, Norm!

@REDxFROG 7 лет назад

AMAZING. Thanks for this. So the Deluxe Audio Strap + TPCast combo WORKS. I'm gonna buy it all when it comes out, that's for sure. These are very useful upgrades to my Vive.

@jasonh.6653 7 лет назад

This will be an absolute must purchase of 2017 along with the deluxe audio strap. Please take my money HTC!

@Feintgames 7 лет назад

I really enjoy your interview style because you ask a lot of the same questions that a lot of us are wondering. And products that seem too good to be true should be probed a bit to see how they are performing their magic.

@justinbaker2883 7 лет назад

norm is killing the game! tpcast and the new strap, solid vr coverage norm

@jamesoloughlin 7 лет назад

Norm your VR coverage as always is excellent and thorough.

@DualityMan 7 лет назад

this is very exciting, VERY essential for VR. good job TPCast, Awesome questions Norman.

@Fuzzycat16 7 лет назад

alright, now give me a 10km x 10km field to play skyrim in. thank you.

@locostark534 7 лет назад

THE FUTURE IS HERE EVERYBODY ... You might need to sell half of your body but that's nothing compared to the fun you'll have limping on that Omni pad because you got rid of one of your legs to pay for it. PRAIS VIVE for all of its glory

@JustinKrux 7 лет назад

10 million? you must ACTUALLY be John Malkovich

@SpaceViking1 7 лет назад

Fuzzycat yay... 10x10km bounce house because you can only teleport in vr and not walk, right? 😂

@fireaza 7 лет назад

+x You can absolutely walk in VR. Serious Sam VR for example, has full support for trackpad locomotion that lets you run and strafe just like in the original PC release. These controls are obviously for people who have spent quite a bit of time in VR, newcomers are probably best to stick with teleportation. There's nothing about VR that means you can only teleport.

@elev8dity 7 лет назад

I feel like there is walking (roomscale just walking around your room), gliding (Trackpad/Joystick movement), and teleportation (Blink - Lab, dash - Raw Data, or portal/2 step - Budget Cuts). There are so many ways to move in VR now... even walking around your room has different possibilities as shown with Unseen Diplomacy.

@VizYT 7 лет назад

Can't wait to buy all of these accesories!

@timdawson3636 7 лет назад

Excellent interview Norm, passion + spot on questions!

@bassemb 7 лет назад

Great questions Norm, good interview.

@figgyscott 7 лет назад

It sounds like 2017 will be an amazing year for peripherals for the Vive. I can't wait!

@teekomeeko 7 лет назад

It was YEARS ago at a CES that wireless HDMI was touted as coming soon. Thanks to VR people are finally getting that going for realzies :D

@ThePhan7em 7 лет назад

HTC and or Valve should buy this tech, like ASAP.

@bsc2thousand 7 лет назад

Norman always knows the answer to the questions I don't know why he always asks them lol. He does it with every single interview. He ask a question, the person give a vague yet limited response and then Norman answer the Hot damn question himself lol.

@RowdyGuy 7 лет назад

Great questions! You guys got me actually hyped for the product!

@noahbobrow 7 лет назад

Considering I can only use any type of VR (VIVE and Rift) for around 45-60 minutes at most without getting a headache, 2 hours is extremely reasonable and I'm so freaking pumped for this

@jonwarland272 7 лет назад

Norm is really good at getting to the important stuff in an interview.

@SansaStarkofWinterfell 7 лет назад

So wonderful to see the VR stuff expand so fast, the gaming looks awesome. I would however be afraid of the battery, I was one of the people having to return my Note 7. Not once, but twice. Because I was given a second Note 7 saying it was repaired, then Nope... Not fixed, gotta give it back and get a whole different phone. I don't trust when the battery gets too hot.

@WEKS87 7 лет назад

I... need this. I also need a Vive, but you know, also this.

@mcmanus260 7 лет назад

got to say props to the interviewer, such good questions.

@cadecesmat7780 7 лет назад

Love tested!!!. especially when adam built his hero sword. I built my own afterwards

@ThePoesn 7 лет назад

Can't wait for it. It's like a vive 2.0

@JoseTorres-yo9sp 7 лет назад

Happy I went with the Vive this looks cool

@brianparsons1439 7 лет назад

dude. My childhood dreams are becoming reality. This is so amazing. The future is now.

@yootoob7048 7 лет назад

The total price of the headset, audio strap, wireless setup and video card are still cheaper than the glitchy Microsoft Hololense. I'm in.

@bugatti9218 7 лет назад

i love being a wireless company for about many years

@cruzer2727 7 лет назад

I'll wait for the built in wireless version (non add on) and some more games to be released then I'm jumping fully into VR!

@obesemale5976 7 лет назад

I doubt the vive 2.0 will be wireless, and they've said the vive 2.0 isn't coming for a while.

@HisNameIsCheese 7 лет назад

TheMageGaming mage is right. coming from someone who has had it since the vive was released the 2.0 will not be wireless

@dsmithers944 7 лет назад

What you said was basically an oxymoron.

@HisNameIsCheese 7 лет назад

dsmithers944 I get updates regarding 2 incase I want to upgrade. not worth it tbh

@dsmithers944 7 лет назад

I don't know why you think the Vive 2 won't be wireless when basically the technology is working right now and everyone wants VR to go wireless.

@PatHouly22 6 лет назад

Wow, Norm Asked the Perfect questions

@probablynot8154 7 лет назад

Should be picking one of these up when it comes out!

@red878787 7 лет назад

love the technical questions

@eva-lynne9490 7 лет назад

This is awesome! Would love to see HTC work with these guys to integrate directly into the headset, or even buy the tech so that Vive gen 2 has it natively (hopefully at no extra cost )

@davy9247 7 лет назад

Great interview! You ask good questions and immediately to the point. Very informative, thanks.

@caleorama 7 лет назад

Love your videos Norm, keep up the great work!!

@tomparkes78 7 лет назад

Good interviewer lots of great informative questions

@crregazzamerone 7 лет назад

this makes it better. I have to step over my wire frequently and it also wraps up and I have physically pulled the the cables out if the VIVE box while streaming through twitch. this makes it easier for me. the wire kills my gameplay sometimes and this is s good starting solution.

@ganondorf656 7 лет назад

Wow this is a huge step forward.

@g31r0d 7 лет назад

2 or 5 hours? That's a lot more than I was expecting.

@RichTeaHero 7 лет назад

Very cool technology. Great work from Norm here, can be hard to keep an interview going with someone who doesn't speak fluent English.

@klikdeli 7 лет назад

great questions, looking forward to follow-up

@ProvencalG 7 лет назад

Damn I'm impressed, wireless is coming sooner than I thought (I was very skeptical about latency)

@Renovatio2 7 лет назад

Everything great apart from the battery life. Hoping they mange to bump it up a bit in later versions or with some refinements to the current model. Being tethered was one of the big reasons I still haven't gone VR. That and the huge price.

@i208khonsu 7 лет назад

Battery technology hasn't really gotten much better in recent years. I wouldn't be counting on a breakthrough. Honestly though 5 hours seems generous. I could get home from work and play it all night, but I also usually don't play it for longer than 30 minute bursts before taking a break.

@Renovatio2 7 лет назад

Very true re the battery tech. Maybe they will have a charging dock or something where you can switch out batteries on the fly. I reckon this could be a nice jump forward for VR. I'd hate to see it go the way it did in the 1990's but I have higher hopes for it now with the tech in a far more mature state.

@Nukeplayfrconneries 7 лет назад

i208khonsu it's 2 hours

@i208khonsu 7 лет назад

XL Battery lasts 5 hours.

@i208khonsu 7 лет назад

RenovatioJuris Every VR company could go bankrupt tomorrow and it wouldn't die.You don't have to worry about this technology fading away. It's well beyond critical mass in so many more avenues than gaming. Education, design, engineering, porn, etc... Gaming is just the poster child of the industry. VR saves time, reduces cost, and improves products developed. It's never going away.

@benkroon3862 7 лет назад

It is tempting to wait for the HTC/Intel WiGig solution but knowing now that the TPcast transmitter is capable of beam forming will make it awfully hard to avoid purchasing this in Q2. Thanks for the interview!

@edkrassenstein5534 7 лет назад

Damn dude this looks crazy AF. Solves one of the Vive's biggest drawlbacks I really want a Vive and I think it is best to wait for V2 at this point. It's insane how fast the technology is evolving for VR

@donlee_ohhh 7 лет назад

Great interview questions Norm!

@Jordan-rs5hv 7 лет назад

Im definitely buying one. Not so sure about the deluxe straps though, thats more a convenience thing, which the originals don't bother me. But removing the cable is a necessity imo

@zakblue 7 лет назад

Great interview, very thorough cheers!

@TheAndreaslauwers 7 лет назад

great interview Norm (of a great product, David :) )

@iamdmc 7 лет назад

excellent vid - thanks been curious about this

@pagla07 7 лет назад

laser tag with these are gonna be awesome

@MrRollie51 7 лет назад

cool This will probably flourish in the near future, excellent idea I'd like to get one on my Oculus Rift

@stephemf 7 лет назад

Good questioning Norm!

@Lurkz_ 7 лет назад

Awesome to hear that the latency is as low as stated, only question I have now - is the price of the unit plus the extra batteries going to be worth the trade in annoyance of the cable, against the annoyance of having to charge and swap the batteries constantly? Hmmm

@immotionar7940 7 лет назад

This can be a game-changer, since you can mount it on your current vive and doesn't require you to buy a new headset. My question is: when will we see a similar solution for Oculus Rift?

@ThisguyQuake 7 лет назад

Someone needs to snatch that call company up. That looks amazing

@GilbertKingAispuro 7 лет назад

I have been waiting for a damn review. Thanks!

@TomE1995 7 лет назад

just when oculus managed to catch up and start developing wireless support vive hits it out of the park again

@cmnidit4444 6 лет назад

i cant wait for the future. maybe laser tag will be replaced with vr tag with battlegrounds being corridors with cameras so the play area seems extremely physical.

@mick2d2 7 лет назад

When is it coming to Europe? Can't wait to get this!

@kentonian 7 лет назад

Wow that didn't take long to appear! I wonder if you can have more than one working at the same time in one room?

@bran756 6 лет назад

Well I just bought the product,and although not setting it up till wk end have had mixed reviews off the ht vive forum,hmm,well we will see verry shortly fingers crossed that it does wat it says on the tin

@DorothyJeanThompson 7 лет назад

Thank you for this video!!!! now I know I'll be getting one 😁

@djiniiiii 6 лет назад

now imagine throwing away the external stations tracking the HTC vive headset/controllers and using the same TP cast setup to do the tracking as well. How cool is that?

@Evil0Freeman 7 лет назад

I think China will take over VR and start producing all the latest VR gadgets in the future. In a lot of VR games, I generally queue into people from China. It's honestly quite encouraging to see the Chinese markets take such interests in VR. Perhaps one day China will be shipping out VR gear like Japan ship out game consoles/devices. This is true innovation. This is true new tech. It's not just a rehash what we already know.

@anonony9081 7 лет назад

these tpcast guys have their shit together wow...

@Slurm_Daddy92 7 лет назад

norm and your questions! ugh you ask the questions and I will just test the wireless vr lol

@TheElcentralen 7 лет назад

Looking good. Now they only need about 40% more pixels so you can actually see objekts in a charp way.

@DivergentEyes 7 лет назад

good questions!

@infera1 7 лет назад

I hope that next gen vive will be wireless at the same price as first gen and tethered one for a lower price :)

@douglasr74 7 лет назад

I just purchased my Vive and I love it, I must say that I was undecided between this and the Rift. I decided on the Vive due to the room scale setup. Now that im seen all these new components being released tells me I made the right choice. Is the Rift releasing something similar?

@beastgod5554 7 лет назад

They didn't quite discuss the effective range from transmitter to receiver or max distance one could navigate away from the los of the transmitter before noticing delays