Hard Starting Diesel Geared Starter Upgrade Ford 6610

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Our Ford 6610 Force II had never been the worlds best starter. When the solenoid fries I decided to try out one of Mahle's geared starters. Stay tuned to see what a difference a high torque starter can make to a diesel.
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@kenfrazier616 2 года назад

great upgrade with starter, heavier and better cranking, keep them coming

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Thanks Ken. Its one of those jobs I regret not doing sooner. Hope all is well!

@camperjack2620 2 месяца назад

Dave, great video! I don't seem to need a geared starter, it spins fine. I have a 1980 Ford 3600 diesel, the three cylinder. Mine ran when I bought it, I ran out of fuel the first time I used it, and then it decided never to start again, I replaced the fuel and filters, bled the system three times, and it ran a bit. Now I am putting in a new manifold heater and looking at the injectors, which appear never to have been serviced. I'm told they are good tractors when they run. I'm almost there.

@davesworkshop2714 2 месяца назад

Those 3 cylinder Ford are gravity fed so they're an absolute nightmare to bleed. Any ones I've worked on have been torture, so that could be a lot of your issue. Look at my 4000 video and you'll see the pain I went through. I had no option but to resort to ether. A neighbour told me he filled his fuel tank and left the bleed open a few hours. Good luck with it and thanks for your kind comments!

@olivierfulcrand6841 2 года назад

FORD IS GOLD 💪👌❤️ SIMPLY THE BEST 👌👍❤️

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Gotta say I'm a big fan, but then again its what I was raised with 🙂. Thanks for watching 🙂👍

@clintonroushff7068 2 года назад

What a difference the new starter makes. Also having good connections... hard to say what makes the most difference. It's turned cold in Kentucky. Rain and snow today. Winter is just around the corner. Take care Dave

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

It was badly needed Clinton. It was so hard to start when cold. Looking forward to see how it handles the cold. We had the first freezing nights a few weeks ago but its become unseasonably mild and dry here. Thanks again for watching, hope you don't get too bad a winter, that snow is starting early!

@robertmurphy8556 2 года назад

Good video, very worth while job.

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Thanks Rob, makes a huge difference to the tractor. Looking forward to a nice frosty morning!

@robertmurphy8556 2 года назад

Gives inspiration to get the cummins 6bt turning

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

@@robertmurphy8556 has to be done. We should make a video of it 🤣👍

@Ants_Pants 2 года назад

Huge difference, i changed out my starter as well, i was sure i had hard starting because some other related issue, but after changing out the started it felt like i could just go plow the field with the starter alone lol

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

It totally exceeded my expectations as well. It was terrible to start in bad weather. Thanks for watching! I'm hoping to have time to go through some of your videos tonight 🙂👍

@TheHomePros6221 2 года назад

Great video Dave!! That thing starts rite up now!! I think I need to do the same thing to the 3000 it’s very hard to start but I think it could be getting air in the system still

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Thanks Darrell. According to the forums I'm on there doesn't seem to be one for the 3 cylinders, but they could be wrong. If you're getting air it's probably at the lift pump cover or filter. Try operating the lever on the pump a few times before you fire it see if it makes a difference. Also see if there's an excess fuel button on the pump for cold starting.

@diarmuid858 2 года назад

New here myself, great video I must say. I’d say I’ll be sticking around here

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Diamuid, thanks very much for watching and supporting the channel. Shpuld have a new video out soon. Have a good Christmas!

@karlmorgan2551 2 года назад

Cool video!

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Thanks again for watching Karl!

@mickeyvfr98 2 года назад

That starter might be more expensive Dave but it sure made light work of starting the tractor 👍👍

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Worth every cent Mickey! Thanks for watching 👍. Hope all is well!

@mickeyvfr98 2 года назад

@@davesworkshop2714 all good Dave, just got my jcb 814 back running yesterday after an injector pump recon Maybe I should start a RU-vid channel 🤔🤣🤣

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

@@mickeyvfr98 why not? 🙂 Nice machine, would love to see it working.

@peteroreilly9321 2 года назад

Great interesting video Dave,that mahle starter motor i believe is a top of the range although that one you got won't suit my 2 Fords 3600 Q and 4630 SQ as it's too long and wont fit a 3 cylinder Ford ynless theres a short version for 3 cylinder engine 🚜👍

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Thanks Peter! Its strange that there doesn't seem to be one at present for the 3 cylinder Fords. Though I'd imagine they're far easier to start than the 4s. I believe that they're available for the 4 cylinder because they're the same starter as some TM models.

@peteroreilly9321 2 года назад

But i,ll have a look all the same Dave for gear reduction starter for a 3 cylinder Ford,although my Ford tractors are easy started,but i also have a David Brown 1190Q which is a bit hard started in cold weather its also a 3 cylinder as well ,i ll get one for it anyway,

@azizchkour6106 2 года назад

👍👍👍👍👍👍

@keitharmitage1801 Год назад

What's it like now?

@davesworkshop2714 Год назад

Keith, I think we hit about -4/-5 Saturday night and it fired right up yesterday morning, still below freezing without an issue. I used the excess fuel button but not the manifold heater, there was no need. It was -8 last night, and I have no doubt but she'll start first attempt later on.

@keitharmitage1801 Год назад

@@davesworkshop2714 think you have the in line injector pump? Have one here with a rotary pump (6410) and it's always been very easy to start. Fitted a Mahle hi speed starter to a Fiat 110 90 last winter, difference is unbelievable.

@davesworkshop2714 Год назад

@@keitharmitage1801 Keith, that's correct, it's the inline pump. Any ford we've had has been the same so I've never been able to compare. Those starters are fantastic. Some sound from the 110 I bet 🙂

@lynnmccarthy007 2 года назад

👍🚜🚜

@kirstypalmer1987 2 года назад

Hi im Andy, using my sisters account. I have a 6610 gen 1 thats a bugger to start on even the slightest cold morning, the starter turns so slow even with a good battery and the wires get warm very quick. Seloniod is clicky too. Thinking this starter would make a difference for mine. Any thoughts much appreciated. Cheers

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Andy, I have no doubt that it would transform your tractor. I used to dread the cold mornings. I haven't even used the manifold heater so far this winter. Regardless if you fit one or not, go through all your main cables and make sure all the connections are clean and tight. Also check the low current supply from the ignition switch to the solenoid if it keeps clicking or dropping out. To be honest though, the original starters were always poor. They fitted the same geared starter to the TM from the factory so I guess that says enough!

@kirstypalmer1987 2 года назад

@@davesworkshop2714 Cheers and thankyou for replying, defo think im going down the route of fitting that starter and will use new cabling too as its getting abit tired. Thanks again for your help and keep those old ford vids coming!. Ps....are those horndraulic loader brackets. I fitted one to my 6610 this year, great loader. 👍

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

@@kirstypalmer1987 They sure are! A neighbour had replaced theirs as the loader frame was poor and was scrapping it. We had removed a good loader from the 5000 we traded against the 6610 so we made one up with the best of the parts. It was intended as a stop gap (that was 2006!) until we bought a quickie. It runs off the spools and is constantly leaking so that'll be another video soon! Thanks for watching!

@lilwill418 2 года назад

Whats the part number for the manhle starter

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

Will, ill see if i can find the box in the morning and lll get the number off it.

@davesworkshop2714 2 года назад

The part number is VPF7260 or 1705-7260

@lilwill418 2 года назад

@@davesworkshop2714 thank you

@patmog Год назад

how are you filming this?

@davesworkshop2714 Год назад

That was done with phones unfortunately!

@patmog Год назад

@@davesworkshop2714 Ah, now I realize, you only have one hand at a time :) Great tractor. I'm looking to buy a 6610 at some point to keep my 5000 company!

@davesworkshop2714 Год назад

@@patmog our 6610 replaced a 5000 on our farm. Both fantastic tractors. Our 5000 had a 6600 engine fitted. The 10 series was a big step up, but the 5000 beat it in 2 aspects, it felt far more stable as it was so much lower, and the gearbox was better suited to loader work than the synchro box in the 10.

@patmog Год назад

@@davesworkshop2714 Interesting, as I'm just about to put a loader on my ford 5000 in the near future.