HARDCORE Trump supporter confronts me...how did it go? 

Spot on!

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@Jorel032777 that’s a mic dropping statement! 💯 Perfectly said!

Exactly. Excellent!

Perfect

Bingo

Right, but dare not take the vaxx, and you're an evil anti vaxx maga republican grr! My body my choice until you dare not take an experimental drug in which you cant sue for damages under any circumstances.

Well said.

I know some act ignorant to this despite understanding it but I seriously don't get why there seem to be so many people who sincerely don't understand this perspective. Why is that?

​@@4yinyangthey it's another reason for them to be selfish.

“Billie Jean is not my lover…”

@@jimohara wrong.

Yes another dude pushing his views on the woman's right to choose.

@@Cannon_Fodder_Russians EXACTLY!!! Women should judt say to the world..i.e. men..the "shop" is cloded!! No shop..no pregnancy and no abortion! see what happens then

@@Cannon_Fodder_Russians The misogyny badge is a mark of achievement in the Maga Scouts😑

That's what is so fantastic about our constitution. Those men were brilliant!!!!

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Totally agree! I am religious but I don’t think my beliefs should affect others.

I've seen so many posts about abortion doctors being heroes. It's kind of gross the way the Left can minimize abortion, maximize abortion, and just almost make light of it. I was raised by a very pro-choice family, but once I had a baby, I started to realize that it's a tragedy. Each abortion. I think the caller may have been trying to send the message that the Right actually thinks it's murder, and therefore, unless Trump kills a baby in the middle of 5th avenue, they're probably thinking they've got the high ground. From a scientific perspective, it's hard to dismiss that it's a potential human and if we discovered any kind of zygote or a single cell in the rest of the galaxy, we'd all be stoked on the Left. Abortion doctors should be seen as necessary and providing a service, not heroes. Personally, that seems gross to me.

@@kendrabryant4738 I agree with you what I believe is my belief and I don’t think anyone should push your belief on others even if right or wrong

​@@lora3530But if a person could generally prove what they believe to be factual then it would no longer be a belief, it would be a fact. That almost never happens under most circumstances actually.

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Well said!!

Religious people lack critical thinking. They are all brainwashed. Religion was created when the first conman met the first fool and it's still going strong today.

I think it’s important to first recognize that the United States is supposed to be a secular government but not a secular society. Aside from that the issue really lies in the fact that some religious organizations try to twist the meaning of the first amendment to make the argument that the United States is not supposed to have a secular government, while ch leads to the problem with not understanding why religion should not be a basis for laws

I'm religious and I agree with you.

this caller was not bad either (Intelligent, formulated responses, patience, the ability to debate a point and concede others). Maybe Shmuel should be running for the GOP ticket instead of the whack job known as Trump who couldnt possibly have compiled sentence structures like these. His red hat actually should say "dunce."

Yes David is able to get the point across clear, and Dave has reported on inflation but tit-for tat

The have high levels of gullibility. They are primed to believe anything without evidence.

Your guess is as good as mine.

If he's a Netanyahu supporter, I could see why they may support Trump.

Beyond me

@@SirFingerLickinwhy? Netanyahu is evil

Nor should it be respected.

I disagree. If your religion guides you in a way that can also be backed up by science, I think it's as acceptable political tool as any other spiritual guidance you may have - humor, music, naturalism, etc. For example, Judaism tells us to care for our neighbours - if that helps drive the argument that we should care for our neighbours because of basic human decency - great. As a secular Israeli Jew I don't mind and even kind of like seeing that being brought into arguments, I just don't want THAT to be the sole argument. Religion can't be ignored, and when secular people try to abolish it entirely from the political field - it only makes religious people more protective of it. And that protectivness encourages bad politicians to latch on to that fear of "anti-religiousness" and use religion as a political argument, rather than an embelishment of a fact-driven message.

Agree completely, the guy stirred up a lot of smoke, but that's all there was, he never showed where there was a fire.

No. The more appealing their manner, the more insidious they are. Trump is an evil man, and even if he were not is incompetent to hold the presidency. His supporters are advancing an evil and incompetent agenda. Whatever their arguments, they are wrong. There is no point in trying to understand them. We know all we need to know about them.

True... which is why I'm thinking how can a civil decent human support Trump? I have not listened to the entire piece yet. But I guess maybe I need to...

And impressive trump supporters😂

Yeah, I am not used to a Trump supporter sounding so civil and display efforts of critical thinking. Although his attempts to go after David on inflation comments struck me as clutching at straws, and trying to find something to criticize him when there is nothing there. Anyone who thinks critically about inflation would notice that Biden has done a good job with it and things would be worse under Trump in that department.

good one...I'll remember that one!

Back when the church ruled society was called the Dark Ages.

And I dont want an orange prezzz that poops his pants😅😅😅😅😅

because babies are innocent and murderers are not

People who say abortion is murder are good at dehumanizing others. They may say their concern is about the fetus, but the truth is that most are actually dehumanizing pregnant women. And if you cam dehumanize women that easily, of course it's not a problem to dehumanize folks on death row.

@@BrokenWillHow about those whom are killed under the death penalty and found not guilty afterwards?

It's called hypocrisy.

A better question is why those against abortion are also against food stamps, medical aid, etc. In other words, if they don't really give a s*&t about the baby after it is born why do they care beforehand?

Precisely. Jesus (New Testament) never said anything about homosexuality or abortion, and while Leviticus (Old Testament) calls homosexuality an "abomination", it also condemns eating shellfish (so, no trips to Red Lobster for you!), pork (so, no bacon nor Chinese food for you!), men shouldn't cut their sideburns, women should retreat to separate quarters for a week while in a menstrual cycle, and about 70 other condemnations that I am sure 99% of so-called "Christians" who will vote for tRump again do not follow. They also don't follow at all teachings that Jesus actually said, such as Matthew 19:24.

Right.

Both are horrible documents that are extremely confused. Neither one should be used to make your world view on. Think about it the constitution makes no effort to place checks and balances in place to stop corruption. The bible is made up of stories stolen from other cultures, out right lies and no known source, just some anonymous writers with no connections to those they wrote about many generations later.

Yup - the bible has a recipe in it for abortion but they never mention that. It's also filled with references to the breath of life. They don't even read it anyway.

Correct, they cherrypick because they want any and all systems that they engage in to work for them and never against them, thus they make excuses as to why they don't follow certain things but enforce their own interpretation of whatever thing they like the idea of. They want to be included into groups without actually following the groups rules. They want their cake and eat it too.

That's the trouble - every religion beige its Repton is the only true one and of course they'd want it to be the basis of law and therefore imposed on everyone.

Faith or religiousness is a private and personal choice. You don't need to attend church or groups to live life the way you choose. People are known by their deeds not their words.😊

There are zealots out there who want to tell other people what to do. And they live in a modern liberal society where that immoral urge is seen (correctly) as evil, wrong. So the only strategy they have left is to play the victim, to lie to the rest of us that our freedom is their oppression. When really it's the opposite: THEIR idea of freedom is oppression.

The caller is one of those many misguided people who think morality comes from religion. And not just any religion but only MY religion.

In a country that says you have rights, like freedom of religion.

Exactly

U relize that not many people actually like freedom at all but many love to say the word . It's weird how delusional people like to be

@@komlat253hence religion.

Conservatives are full of contradictions. Their two biggest catch phrases are "Freedom" and "Law and Order". It's mind boggling they think these two words can appear in the same sentence.

I believe there's a Almighty Creator but I'd still be considered a Pagan because I Don't have No Religion. Also there's Plenty of Atheist that has Morals and Common Sense but as We Listen to this Religious Guest and like the Rest of the MAGA Cult he Lacks Common Sense and No Shame!😅

@@komlat253 I disagree. I think we’ve set up a society where freedom and security are in direct opposition. Thats a systems problem. It’s why all of our systems are broken.

He didn't say that, and he said personally he believes in exceptions to protect the mother, but that if one could come up with a civil law reason then his belief that it is murder could be a driving reason for pushing for laws to protect the fetus. We should at least try to understand the argument so we can better argue against it.

​​@@gliberty42you just said the same exact thing with more pointless words. You change the word feelings to beliefs on abortion. Same sh*t.

@@gliberty42the point is: that guy’s beliefs are irrelevant when compared to reproductive freedom.

He thinks his religion is more important that other people's, and gets to make the choices. He also admits that Presidents don't have 100% control over inflation, but blames Biden for inflation. Biden's policies didn't create the inflation, but they did help bring it down, as can be seen by comparing US inflation to that in other countries. He can't be reasoned with, because he hasn't used reason to reach his current views.

I hate the idea of abortion it makes me feel sad but making it illegal ,taking away a person's rights is wrong and even worse some of the horrendous cases such as handicapped females who have been abused and are now pregnant, female children who have been raped and are pregnant, any female who has been raped and is pregnant, women whose babies died in the womb, women who are carrying unviable foetuses, women whose health or life is at risk if they continue with their pregnancy, ectopic pregnancy, and other possible reasons why a pregnancy should not continue should be exceptions . Sadly i do have personal knowledge of a young woman who had 3 abortions before giving birth to her now soon to be 4 year old and she is only 20 years old now. Education helps Contraception should be free and should be readily available to anybody who requires it. The pill IUD's such as the coil Condoms Moon cups Arm implants And any others I've missed Sterilisation for those who want it . Injection like depo provera I'm not sure what is currently available The morning after pill Fast track abortion services for those who are in the very early stages of pregnancy . If these were all free, non judgemental , Did not have a string of conditions to qualify for it would be so much better. Men who want vasectomy should be given free treatment .a woman can only get pregnant approximately every 9 months generally speaking but a man can impregnate several women in one day every day . The cost of medical care for a pregnancy and the birth and medical care of the child let alone the cost of all those unwanted children until they are adults must be huge .one IUD one injection, some condoms surely must be a better option ?

Probably not ... that Shmuel dude has a RU-vid channel. He comes across as reasonable, but he is most assuredly a lost cause. Another RU-vidr named Logicked did a few response videos on that guy.

I agree! How can the right bring the moral argument to the table on the topic of abortion when they support a man who is so incredibly immoral? It blows my mind every single day and has for years!

A tax dodger, a draft dodger ,and liar.

A conman

you missed one, traitor

Rapist, fraudster & insurrectionist coup leader, as well as being an orange clown, are all things you do not want the leader of your country to be.

Why respect beliefs that aren’t true

@@robertjsmithI respect your right to hold a view that I may disagree with. I show you respect by not denigrating you for your different (or even wrong) views. I might debate with you the merits of your view. And, if you’re ignorant ( e.g. a flat-Earther) I won’t support your nomination to a post as science teacher.

I can respect their right to believe it without signing up to believing it myself. Sadly it seems the reverse is often not the case.

religions don't need to be "respected" any more than any other political ideology or philosophical thought system. you may respect people's rights to hold these beliefs, but you're not obligated to respect the beliefs themselves. human beings have rights. Ideas don't.

@@GavTatu “even though he(Lorreta) can’t have babies,we’ll fight for his right to have babies” What’s the point of fighting for his right to have babies,when he can’t have babies ?

Christians in the US often want to interject their morality into legislation, especially on the Evangelical side. Abortion is a health care issue and a practical reality that many conservatives don't want to examine critically how it was before abortion was legal. You can already see the effect in some states of it being essentially banned, where rape victims are being forced to carry their baby to term and threatened with arrest if they try to cross state lines to get an abortion. Others are even worse when miscarriages are forced to be carried for months threatening the life of the mother. I've been an atheist for a long time but used to be a practicing Catholic, and I believe even the catechism even has some morality clause that abortions can be acceptable if the intention isn't to kill the fetus in attempting to save the mother's life.

The church is full of sociopaths. Way too many people wave around the word “Christian” as a free pass that it automatically makes them a good person. Nothing could be further from the truth. So many use Christianity as nothing more than a phoney facade. They are just narcissistic people masquerading as Christians who seek to control and impose their views onto others.

Please understand that the Conservative movement with Maga considers itself a Christian nation and want G/d back in schools etc. There is a strong bias against Catholics even if their members are Catholic. Conservatives are mostly Protestant.

Agreed.

I am Catholic too. I agree with you and David.

Evangelism is, by definition, profoundly disrespectful, presumptive, and demeaning.

Right! I'm pro choice but never had an abortion.

Exactly! 💯

They don't even say the real reason behind their opposition. There are probably some regular people who really do object to abortion on the grounds of seeing it as akin to murder, but that is not at all why right-wing thought leaders and pushers take this position. Granted that the true motives to which I am alluding are basically open secrets, there is still no doubt in my mind that being honest and transparent about them would certainly result in very large number of people becoming very angry (and rightfully so). I't very dishonest, to say the least, and I have no respect for it whatsoever. As if that wasn't bad enough, the real motives are disgusting, repugnant, and immoral.

Noticed how republicans are so obsessed with women and trans genitals? They’re so creepy

@@amarisimpson1506 I will one up you. I am against abortion and am pro-choice because my personal opinions do not get to dictate a woman's life or choices.

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after jan 6th if you told me trump would be evens favourite to win in 2024 i would say you were off your head.......how can this guy keep fooling you americans

That's FUNNY ASF !!! MAY I USE THAT PLEASE ???

Hahah this is a great repurposing of the classic phrase, love this

Says a Biden sock puppet voter who gets their "truth" by watching CNN and tiktok. How is that bidenomics working for you? Still living in moms basement?

BS... 🤣🤣🤣Poor you living in your glass castle.

@@carmendasilva600 Poor you living with your cult mentality.

Always is with David

It makes me "wonder" why so many of "the words" in your comment use "quotation marks" when "not-necessary"?

David had an inordinate amount of patients for this guy. It was like nails on a chalkboard for me.

@@smartaMartiniMe too! He was trying so hard to be right!

I was impressed with Schmuel’s willingness to engage in a discussion about the basis for abortion policy, and glad that David was respectful and fairly patient.

And when the 'abortion is wrong because god' angle fails, he switches to 'how about if I conceal my religious motivation behind some secular/scientific disguise?'😂😂😂

How can one get angry with one that is so lacking intelligence to have critical thinking skills. You can try to educate until the cows come home but you’re up against low hybrid vigor. This poor kid was indoctrinated; brainwashed as a child. Use this example as a warning to parents before they take their babies to church.

Agree

My thoughts exactly! Great interview David!

yes this was so pleasant to listen to!

Schmoodles seems like a genuine dude

Nothing conveys one's point of view better than when one spells out the '.'👈🏼 (full stop)!!😂

religion has no place with the reasonable

@@thunderpooch "religion has no place with the reasonable" One step further -- religion has no place with the SANE ! Period. Full Stop.

​@@CherDelevery good job arguing the points and not using ad hominem.. oh wait..

This is why the Founding Fathers deemed *ALL* religions unfit for modern, civil governance. _“The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or Mohammedan Nation.”_ *- John Adams* (American statesman, attorney, diplomat, writer, Founding Father & 2nd president) The *1st Amendment's Establishment Clause* prohibits the government from making any law, _“respecting an establishment of religion.”_ This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion. *Constitution Article VI Supreme Law - Clause 3 Oaths of Office* _"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; _*_but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."_* This means nobody is ever required to swear to a god or on the Bible, or any other religious book for an oath of office. They may choose a god or religious book, but none is required. Thomas Jefferson and Calvin Coolidge did not use a Bible in their oath-taking ceremonies. Theodore Roosevelt did not use the Bible when taking the oath in 1901, nor did John Quincy Adams, who swore on a book of law, with the intention that he was swearing on the constitution. _"In this enlightened age and in this land of equal liberty, it is our boast, that a man's religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest offices that are known in the United States."_ *-George Washington* _“...the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."_ *-Treaty of Tripoli - June 7, 1797. Signed by President John Adams & Ratified UNANIMOUSLY, by the Senate June 10, 1797* ....only a few times in history the Senate unanimously agreed on anything. A 2018 Supreme Court Ruling re-affirmed this statement, from The Treaty of Tripoli. The Supreme Court released an opinion on May 14, 2018 in Murphy v. National Collegiate Athletic Assn., 584 U. S. (2018), Justice Thomas in his concurring opinion wrote: _"The Treaty of Tripoli was passed by the Senate and signed into law by President John Adams. As such, it is a "legislated text" which must be read "textually". _*_The lower courts in this case read a hypothetical legislative intention into the text by dismissing Article 11 as "a mere formality". The language itself makes a clear direct statement that our government is not based on the Christian religion_*_ and any attempt by a government official to represent our government as Christian contradicts the text and the historical understanding of our founders."_

Nah

yep@@steventhomas3481

@@steventhomas3481 😂 Nah, (Perfect response). I’d rather impose my beliefs upon someone else and screw up their lives because that will make me feel morally superior and I have nothing better to do.

He probably isn't a MAGA nut. His religious beliefs chain him to the Republican party, so he wouldn't consider voting Democrat.

So you're voting for Biden? I hope so!!

I must be honest, I fail to see the difference between Trump and the people who came before him in the Republican Party except that Trump says the quiet part out loud. Joe Scarborough talks about this kind of talk as “throwing red meat to the base” (which does kind of mean that he thought of Republican voters as some kind of animal while he was in office)… that was in the 1990s. What you see from Trump has been the Republican Party for as long as I have been alive, they just used to use polite language.

​@@aidancampbell5644exactly. They've been racist ass holes.

Trump is not overtly speaking to the classic core constituency of the Republican Party, which, given the legislation it passes demonstrates a platform of limited social services, maximum defense, tax cuts, and a public relations strategy to minimize Democratic use of the national credit so Republicans can maximize the use of public credit for their agenda. Republicans are not opposed to the government borrowing money, they are opposed to Democrats borrowing money. I've noted less empathy for the sick until Republicans themselves get cancer or some other life-threatening malady. Then empathy becomes a thing. Trump has no felt empathy, but he can read what a lot of people want to hear, and he delivers enough to win votes. He's a dangerous demagogue. I would encourage spiritual, pro-life Republicans to consider the American Solidarity Party, although its social services agenda may be very hard indeed to swallow.

Bubbles protect

Group think. Whatever you don't call them out, they get a bit huffy.

Stupid people flock to stupid people. If people want to throw their money and time at trump………….you do you

your assuming trump supports can read ...

@@dragonstooth4223 Nope, just like their dear leader, they watch their news.

That's why the FF left Europe and England in the first place. And now all the Republican's who CLAIM to be constitutionalists are trying to impose "GOD" into politics.

the reason "in God we trust" is on our money, is that back in the day currency had to be blessed by the puritanical God... otherwise no one would have used it to pay tithe in church on Sunday... and the framers knew separation from church had to be the foundation of the new Republic they were forming. A new government of the people, for the people and by the people... so they could get away from King George and his Church of England.

And as David pointed out, there are religions in direct conflict. My religion supports women's rights and healthcare.

As an outsider ... wasn't the USA founded to get away from the religious oppression in England? It's a little ironic when England is now 40% non-religious wouldn't dream of imposing crazy laws (I hope) 😬

​@@njones420 You are 100% right! Roughly 250 years ago the colonists wanted to worship Jesus the way they wanted to, and not have the church of England be so overbearing on doing this way or that way. That is the separation of church and state. Unfortunately, MILLIONS have flipped it around implying or outright stating you can't have God in any of the USA politics or laws. This is incorrect. Many of the forefathers went to church and believed in God. It's common to have corporate prayer before a legislative session starts. We dearly need the wisdom of God in both the house and the senate and even with the executive branch. If we are to turn this nation around it won't be by man's policies and man's thinking, we need the wisdom of God involved in our nation and in our laws. This is the reason why God has blessed the United States of America is because we have embraced Him through the years. But, as you know the USA is quickly getting away from any assemblance of morals and doing the right things. It's no accident that we have so many oil reserves, and gas reserves underneath our ground here in the states. God saw we were serving him early on.

I agree unless taxpayers are paying for the abortion.

It is not a child or baby it is a foetus !!!!!!!!!!!!! Religion is totally nonsense

'Aight; nobuddy's talkin' about adoption tho, dawg...

​@@fayhays8618let's face most of the choices are by people that can't be a parent. Don't want to be either. Most have drug problems . Abd can't support them anyway. You want to foot that bill x 150,000. The way it's set right now it's cheaper.

To my ear he sounds well rehearsed, not intelligent. He can lay out an argument like he's reading from a script, but he does not respond to or engage with the counter argument.

@@gilberthamilton9312 It also sounds like he's not ever engaged with someone like this, so he is a little surprised to not hear the normal things he hears all the time.

Unfortunately, there are plenty of intelligent people who support Trump. From my point of view, simple aware intelligence should preclude many viewpoints and behaviors, like being Republican in the first place, or Christian, or bigoted, or misogynistic, or violent, or deliberately wasteful, etc etc. People disagree. The variety of human experience is amazing.

politics is not rational.

Well then you have had more than your share of men telling you what you had to think, say and do. I hope you get everything you want in your future.

Thanks Jim 🤣@@jimdavison4077

As a man, I am deeply ashamed that men are doing this to women. I cannot fathom how we landed here in this era. A woman's body, a woman's choice. Unless the man was raped (yes it can happen to anyone who thinks it's a joke), he shouldn't have gotten a woman pregnant if he wasn't willing to take the risk of her controlling the outcome of the birth. This is just logic.

much appreciated, if men wanted to stop circumcision, I would completely support that, I just want the same body autonomy.@@NeonKix

There are a lot of conservative anti-abortion women out there, too. Not just men.

Especially since he is the closest thing to the anti-Christ that this country has EVER seen.

it makes perfect sense hint hint: religious people are not rational or ethical or moral religious people are illogical first and foremost. and then they're concerned with power.

Have you read the old testament? It’s an immoral book about an immoral malignant narcissistic god.

They aren't religious, or spiritual. They certainly don't follow the prescribed doctrines that are the foundation of their 'faith'. Anyone supporting DT today must be a sociopath. They fear and attack educated or wiser/compassionate people that are more moral than themselves.

Because you have to be low IQ to be religous.

Absolutely agree

yes.

I think they’re just placating to move on to getting their point across.

Orthodox Jews are very extreme. He's struggling to square up the American way with his deeply ingrained religious upbringing. We should give him credit for trying.

And neither of the two guys are even mentioning women’s rights over their own bodies. I’m sick of hearing men’s opinions about this issue. I’m kind of surprised that David never brought women’s rights up. They got stuck on the religious aspects.

@@joannemiddaugh122 Whose rights did you think he was talking about, men who abort their babies???

​@@joannemiddaugh122David is speaking up for the right to choose, and you're crapping all over him. Stop trying to drive people away from the choice option. Don't complain about the gender of an ally. That's madness.

The Dunning-Kruger was so strong with this guy! He thinks he is intelligent, but so obviously can't absorb information that destroys his narratives. The rank hypocrisy of his deliberate attempts to frame it is obvious to anyone but him...

He initially sounded articulate enough, but then offered nothing of substance to the debate ...a complete waste of time.

Trump is only an option because of a Biden and Harris! That’s the problem!

He's working himseslf into a mental frenzy because of his utterly closed mind.

The caller wants Trump in power to hurt people, especially women

Period😊

First amendment protects only a person's right to believe, not religion. They can't stand that, and that's why the founding fathers put it there.

same...and let churches pay tax. and vote blue💙🫂🌊🙏🙏🙏🙋

This is how it *used to* be- until The PAB came along… People (and politicians) would talk to each other, and more importantly, listen to each other, and then give a thoughtful response. Nowadays, the “listening” part has been replaced with the other person just waiting for the chance to repeat their same point, or interrupt or talk over the other person. I studied political science in college many decades ago, and always split my ticket in the voting booth. We were taught that compromise and bipartisanship were not only GOOD things, but desirable. No one can have everything they want, but this way, everyone gets *some* of what they want. I think about this a lot. I think it’s awful that more and more people will never have the experience of civilized debate, of politicians who are popular because they are willing to work with the other party- they’re proud of it, actually. This is the reason I like, and have such confidence in, President Biden. This is exactly what he spent his life doing in the Senate. This is why he has been able to sign such significant legislation without overwhelming majorities in either the House or Senate. The US Senate has just written a new major, comprehensive, bipartisan immigration bill. The system desperately needs an overhaul, and this is IT. It’s so good that both sides are excited about it… then along comes The PAB, who orders The Speaker of the House to ignore it, to not let it pass. He *wants* there to be a mess at our southern border when he gets elected (BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!) so that he can prove that ‘he alone can fix it.’ Oops, just realized this is getting too long for a RU-vid comment. Sorry haha. Edit: a word

This was incredibly refreshing to listen to. I don't agree with everything that was discussed but at no point did the conversation devolve into name calling, yelling, or speaking loudly over one another. This was a real discussion with two sides articulating their points.

Yeah...I'm not sure what Schmuel's point was. First, it seemed like he was trying to make the argument that making abortion illegal is OK because it is based on religious/moral precepts. Then once David pointed out that that many religions and religious sects are OK with abortion and that it's unconstitutional to make laws based solely on the teachings of one religion, then Schmuel seemed to backpedal and agree with David. But then he seemed to want to talk about how people/the government should respect individual religious beliefs in regards to abortion...people shouldn't be put down for having their beliefs, etc. Which is obvious. Confusing.

think the character yahweh had no problem with abortion

Agree totally

Yeah he was basically saying that he should be allowed to use confirmation bias to create false secular arguments for the anti-abortion crowd and not be discredited just because it’s incredibly obvious that he’s shoe-horning in “logic” to support his emotions. If anyone had an actually sound and reasonable argument against abortion being legal and they happened to also have religious beliefs that supported their own choice to abstain from abortion I don’t think any rational person on the pro choice side would discredit the value of those points solely on the basis of the person’s religious beliefs. Basically it’s the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd saying please respect my feelings

And what about the life of the innocent child conceived via the actions of an adult or in your case went to the strip club?

So true 👍🏻

This would be great! This would make Americans grateful again too!

@CherDele hope I'm correct. Another 4 years of the ORANGE ONE will seal America's fate as a global embarrassment under Trump(the 1st time) and if it happens again - America's DONE FOR ✔️

That's great! 👍

we shall c... signed, reluctant Democrat

or priests or rabbis or any other religious men. or any man at all. It should be her choice and hers alone because its her life at risk to carry that baby to term. No one locks up someone who says they don't want to do a living donation of an organ to someone else if they don't want to do it. no one tells them they are evil for denying life to another. no one tells them they bad for not agreeing to donate an organ as a living donor. They assess the risks and are told all the risks and then the person who has potential to donate agrees to do so or not. because it is their body and the affect of that donation will affect the rest of their lives. A pregnancy is no different. A woman just doesn't get a choice in a lot of situations.

@@dragonstooth4223 I came here to add on to this comment, but you responded far more extensively than I was going to. Big thumbs up to you, thanks for your excellent response..!

​@@dragonstooth4223nor do doctors, if it comes down to saving a woman's life, even if the bub inside is dead and rotting, or even has a living twin...

What about equality? What about the man's rights to his unborn baby ?

​@@Someone-p2xit should be the decision of the couple, if there's no couple than the woman's decision

Cringe

@@TheNiftyManiac absolutely agree

it's sad that it is notable

Huh?

@@philipliethen519 sarcasm

@@mr_mr Most definitely, sarcasm, and obviously so! Unfortunately it goes over the heads of some people.😉

Our speaker of the house.

@@MyopinionNUrs4880 NO! NOT MOSES MIKE!!

Trump has no religious belief he is completely shallow

I do not understand how people tolerate and elect psychologically questionable leaders that do not represent them. Does it all comes down to media propaganda?

or EVEN a cup of coffee for that matter!

I basically said the same exact thing. It was really refreshing.

And amazingly they agree on 99%

@@KWKloeber Isn't that crazy. Its kind of odd that if you take a second, step back, listen, and have a productive conversation you seem to find common ground on a lot of things.

I have to be honest, it used to be that way until Trump..

civilized, but the callers stance and arguments are very weak and unsupported.

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Exactly, and so many"religious" people are immoral. @@jaefrmbk2k

Agree!

The poorly educated needs it to be moral but it's a double edge sword

exactly. i tried to tell a person this and they attempted to try to tell me well god put morals into you i said that's YOUR BELIEF. but that's not what happened in reality i told them its more complex than just that and we are every complex and can learn through history and have an understanding of empathy, which has to come first before morals they just could not accept that. they've been so indoctrinated into believing that the god they believe in made you one way and it cant be any other way. I find that a lot of organized religious folks...their way or the highway. no if and or buts or in-betweens with them i.e. fundamentalism like this caller And then im like, what about the other 1000 religions that say otherwise? who's right and who's wrong? they short-circuited after that...

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And you know everybody?

And it's only that dude's (or more commonly his leaders') interpretation of that book that leads him to that idea.

Taking it a step further, why are MEN "dictating" what RIGHTS women should have based on their OWN personal opinion and not on science. 🙄😒🤦‍♂️

@@donniehagy5125 WTF! Did you brain just suffer an aneurism?

In my opinion the caller failed to take in to account the effect of the pandemic, followed by price gouging by corporations on the inflation rates! Common behaviour ilwith tRump supporters.

I've heard this argument about inflation before and it's doesn't make a lot of sense to me. "The prices went up in Biden's first two years. Though inflation has slowed, prices have stayed up. Therefore Biden's still to blame." In my experience, that's not true. I live in California. Gas prices were at $7/gallon in many places. They've dropped back down to $4-$5/gallon. Grocery prices were up. Now they've gone down to being close to being at pre-pandemic/supply chain issues levels. My point is, prices in many sectors did go up, but they've COME BACK DOWN. If you're going to blame Biden for inflation (which is silly...no president has that much control over it), then a the same time you have to give him credit for dropping prices. In addition, in California you see persistently expensive fast food costs. But that has more to do with the fact the California's jacked the fast food minimum wage through the roof and little to do with Biden.

​@@jaywysard Cause and effect. Trump destroyed Obamas economy, and now Biden if fixing the mess trump made. This has been the way of things for my 50+ years, and I doubt it'll change within the next 50 years.

They wanna blame Biden for inflation but don’t wanna credit him for reversing it… typical trumpism!

I am confused as to why the pandemic isn't brought up as a defense/reason why prices went up, unemployment was up for some time & all of the other ways it affected the economy. Edited: Fixed typo

Except that Shmuel does not realize that he has been deceived by Diaper Donnie.

in a perfect world . . . maybe Shmuel values 'beliefs' over truth/science so we all lose

Wow! an actual Trump supporter who dons a non red hat!

Schmool rhymes with fool... I guess he hasn't read Trump's platform to destroy America and Ukraine... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_2024_presidential_campaign

He actually isn't reasonable considering that he thinks that people's religious so-called "moral" fiber should dictate how other people live if you don't want to have an abortion DON'T have one but DON'T make it so that other people can't and you know possibly even die for the woman it's disgusting.

Well said sir, thank you for your point!!

So as a minister you should know the living Word of God. Do you know the eternal danger we put people in if we don't speak the truth. Regardless if they believe or not. Hell is a choice. The law of the land was written by sinful man for sinful men.

​@@susandecker6351none of that is true. The new Testament instructs that you spread the gospel, but if people don't want to listen you 'kick the dust off your feet' (NKJV) and keep it moving. At no point does the Bible authorise anyone to make laws to the detriment of others.

@@RankinMsP I never said anything about the Bible authorizing detrimental laws. And Jesus did just that. Kicked the dust off. That is why there are gentiles. And you are fooling yourself if you think we are supposed to shut up as Christians because man does not want to hear the truth. We have a commandment. To teach ALL nations. The other is to love one another. How can we say we love anyone and never tell them the truth. 2Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. Regardless of the laws of the land, the God of the Universe, calls murder a sin. That is not imposing a belief. That is fact from the Living Word of God. Unfortunately many will enter hell because the pulpit is afraid to speak truth.

​@@susandecker6351You're full of shit Susan...

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Excellent!

Cute

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QAnon....? More like IQ none

Yeah, a big role actually

Agreed! One can be moral without being religious.

@@annedouglas9769 it's quite easy being moral and atheist, just treat others the way you want to be treated... sadly religious folks need a "god" to tell them that, or to tell them who to hate

Humans have created their religions based on their morality and not vice-versa.

I noticed that as well. The caller framed it as moral vs secular when in reality they were arguing for religious vs secular. Morality is is not a belief, it is a value practiced or not practiced in civil society.

It is so clear that morality is if anything an inspiration for religion, not an output thereof

Not only that, WHICH religion is the whole and complete, coveted one?!?!? 😮 it's personal. It's faith driven. There is nothing solid of religion of any kind but a belief of faith.

Bertrand Russell and Sam Harris absolutely destroy the fallacy that morality is derived from religion.

He could argue his points for hours, but his real problem is that thinks Trumps would fix any of it.

It’s a combination; cultish religion and an inability to admit a mistake.

@@janinegrey6937 and ignorance. There’s so much basic ignorance just of economics. Don’t. Get me started on vaccine stuff.

I mean, after all, strapping Judaism to nationalism is an idea that David supports. He just doesn't support it in any other case.

Typical brainwashed lefty talk all day about the Constitution, until the 2nd amendment comes up.

I think that trump supporter is beginning to realize that people who believe in the Biden administration are people that have sense.

He also tried to put words in David's mouth.

I'm surprised there's a relatively intelligent Trump supporter out there that is able to speak rationally. He agrees that Trump fearmongers but still supports him, fascinating.

@@NeonKix I have to admit, he did seem as though he was too smart to be a Trump supporter

How could Jews be for trump?? He loves hitler!! He thinks there are fine people on both sides! He kept mien kraumf on his bedside! How stupid are they? Don’t they remember the holocaust?

Agreed with your overall point. Not that this changes anything about the situation, but unless there was another similar case I haven't heard of yet I believe she was 10.

Pro-life , we would never hurt women or children their will always be exceptions. 🤣 yes they lied !

I disagree. That would be deflecting from the topic at hand. Although, it would have been an interesting subject. Hopefully, Schmule will call back.

@@Lovesapuzzle Schmule switched topics at 7:42 to the economy. David referenced Trump predicting a depression like the Great Depression of 1929, which would occur if the stock market crashed again like Trump hopes for. The question I would have asked is pertaining to David explaining what he wants voters to question because a candidate hoping America enters another depression is something every voter should be asking.

Correct. Their discussion of religion and civil law had concluded. Schmule pivoted to the economy, particularly inflation. I have no doubt Trump hoped we would fall into economic depression during Biden's term. That said, there is a difference between saying he wanted a depression and predicting a depression. I don't recall Trump saying (publicly) that he wanted a depression. There is plenty to question and criticize Trump for, including his predictions. I appreciate that David and Schmule kept their discussion to facts and stayed away from opining on motives. @@remo7034

Keeps his Cool like a champ! 🏋

😤👍💯 YES HE SURE DOES!💪👏🏆

He knows which ‘facts’ to tell and which ones to not mention. That’s for sure.

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I'm not so sure that schmeul is a trump voter.

@@donnagal569 I agree. Tramp was railing against Jews because he brought the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem and recognizing that is the Israeli capital. No other nation has followed suit. Shameful. Jews supported Biden and the Democratic Party. Tramp does not see his delusional desperate disgusting and dangerous self. Schmuel sees that. But to try to align yourself as a conservative now is not understanding that they consider our country a Christian nation. There is no room for any Jews in their country club.

@@donnagal569 I sent back a long text to you and I don't see it. Please let me know if you have it. Ty

@@donnagal569 Even though he said he was a Trump supporter? What do you think he is?

@@donnagal569 . I agree . Conservative people identify as Christians basically who are Protestants. They want to put G/d back in school from a Protestant perspective there is no room at the inn for Shmuel.. Trump as well rails against Jewish people now because he put the US Embassy in Jerusalem and declared that the capital of Israel. Unfortunately Jewish people see through his desperate disgusting delusional self and vote by and large for the Democratic Party and right now it is the Republicans that will not do anything for aid to Israel or the Ukraine because of the Border. A bipartisan agreement was reached in the Senate and they were going to adopt it regarding the border and the aid. Trump has decided to not allow it so that Biden would not get credit for improving the Border. They have stalled it they have discussed it to death but they will not Aid Biden in any way . All the fentanyl all the criminals can go right on through . This joint program would have alleviated much of our border problems. So if I hear that they care about us the people please call out the Republicans who made it a political talking point. They have done nothing in the 118th Congress but try and impeach Joe Biden and discuss Hunter Biden. They have nothing to show for 4 years. Jim Jordan has served for 16 years and has never introduced anything into legislation. He sure talks a lot. So when you go to vote I hope people take it to heart the Republican party has one Mission and that is to get Trump in office. I'll never understand how these good Christian of family values would support a grifter three times married cheating husband and everything else and consider him good presidential material. It is Shameless and disgusting.

It helped when the caller was calm and gave real examples instead of just mouthing platitudes. Does this guy really support trump? A man who has no moral compass, and definitely has no knowledge of Bible, Christianity, or morality.

You have to accept this was no ordinary Ignorant Trumpster.

If this guy were representative of the average Trump supporter, we’d be in good shape, as he seems thoughtful and willing to engage with facts. The problem is that he is an anomaly.

I disagree with you my friend. This was actually one of the strongest “trumpist” callers on the show in a while. He very clearly laid out the framework on why people still may take issue with Biden over the economy, weather or not you agree it’s fair or warranted, it’s a good articulation of the issue. I cannot stand David’s “hold on hold on hold on…” it’s very be-lilting and implies the caller is, like, unhinged lol. I get he wants and should control the conversation but sometimes he does it before a point is made, or before David understands the point the caller is trying to make. We have to wait a minute or so for David to finish his point before the caller can clarify that wasn’t the point they were attempting to make before they were cut off.

@@tomservo_ If you're a trump supporter you are unhinged.

They all sound like conspiracy theories

It is also an option. Therefore everything else should allowed to be and remain an option.

There's a magic giant in the sky who you can't ever see or hear from but you have to do exactly what he says or else bad things will happen to you and there are humans who take money to do the magic giants bidding on earth. Weird set up really!

I'm if the opinion it's all bs.

Yes. And he did a fine job

Some? I think most

The belief that your spiritual wisdom makes you more special than others is also known as spiritual narcissism.

@@algregory6597 I want someone... anyone... to explain to me what differentiates the 'spiritual' from the 'imaginary'. Been asking for 30 years and no answer yet.

@@HalfCrazy520 I cant wait for the day when someone running for anything has the balls to say enough NO i do NOT believe.

@@richoliver1095 Rich, for people like us (I stopped believing when I was 12) it all seems so silly... childish... inconsequential. As if believing something without evidence is somehow a virtue? Shouldn't we prefer to KNOW things rather than BELIVE things?

Republicans are good at that !😅

DJT has confirmed that the woman in question was not his type (she had gone past the point of being appealing to most men to be fair). He simply wants to put this chapter of court cases (and unnecessary delay after delay) well and truly behind him. However, these political operatives won’t let go of the tight grip they have over him and are getting ever closer to the grim outcome they planned for him (remember JFK). This is so they can take their chance and install candidates from within they prefer into the favourable position he finds himself in (leading in the polls). He just wants to be left to live his life with his young wife and family in sunny Mar-a-Lago and not be blocked at every opportunity to progress in life. The guy is in his 80’s for god’s sake! This is clearly evident, as he too (along with his rival) is showing some signs of mental decline. But these operatives only care about one thing and will get it whatever it takes!

Yep. I picked up on that too. My immediate question when that happened was “What does that have to do with abortion?” It’s like he can’t ever be wrong.

The worrisome thing is that Trump supporters believe that Trump cares about the unborn. He only cares about votes and the overturning of Roe v. Wade was nothing more than a political stunt.

At least his comments were conspiracy free.

Blaming President Biden for the inflation caused by mr. trump's mishandling of the pandemic is a conspiracy.@@jaywysard

I wish Shmool would have provided that secular argument against abortion. Almost got there.

He still supports a serial liar, conman, and crook.

Then leave America if you don't like it

​@@Danny-jb6pg Do you not understand our constitution? Separation of Church and State is written in the constitution dude.

@@sassysaint3096 have you done the research

@sassysaint3096 where does it say in the constitution, I thought it says build a wall 🧱 between church and state

@@Danny-jb6pg The first amendment.

At least he speaks coherently, though he is in deep cognitive denial. When David reports objective facts such as inflation rates he is not being particularly political. The phone guest is doing exactly what he accuses DP of doing. Total brain-wipe.

How can this caller support an immoral bigot like Trump?

As all MAGA'S logic is illogical.

@@EOeoEOeoOEoeOEeo Would have liked to hear David ask this caller how much the 8 trillion dollar Chump deficit in just 4 short years contributed to higher inflation under Biden.

Only people without a conscience need a book to tell them how to behave.

Utter nonsense

when the christian nationalist cheered caging brown babies at the border, i knew we did not have a difference of opinion, we had a difference of morality. I could not find any in the so called "christians".

I think you mean ethics, not morals. They are different.

@@shepberryhill4912 Morals are driven by human empathy, nothing more.

I loved your comment! thank you both!

I think it was the caller that set the example. Not David.

@@jimohara disagree

David look desperate at the end of the video imo

@@francisco97morales At what point? I thought he looked the same throughout the interview, with the only heightened moment being at 11:43, when he weirdly overemphasised "Call back anytime".