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HARLAN ELLISON: BEST SCIENCE FICTION SHORT STORIES EVER? 'The Beast That Shouted Love...' 

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In this overview of one of Steve's most revered SF books in over fifty years of reading in the genre - without spoilers - the majesty and sharpness of Harlan Ellison's magnificent, incisive award winning science fiction is explored. Every story covered, including the legendary Nebula Winning novella, "A Boy and his Dog".
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@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I've just removed an offensively toned comment here from someone making an issue out of my statement that I haven't sold a copy of 'The Beast That Shouted..' (except a handful of copies of recent PD editions) in 38 years and that I need to learn how to sell it: they clearly don't understand that I'm a trade bookseller of new books (which of course create royalty payments for authors) rather than a second-hand (or 'vintage') bookseller. Because 'Beast' has not been in print in the UK for forty years plus, it's not been possible for a 'real bookseller' like me to obtain stock to sell it. So if you see this post, rude commentator, consider yourself corrected - I don't have to put up with ignorance (in both senses) in this space, as it's my venue and you clearly know nothing about bookselling...
@TheJeffShadowShow
@TheJeffShadowShow 5 месяцев назад
In 1990 I paid $75 to select the letter "R" for Harlan Ellison's "From A to Z, in the Sarsaparilla Alphabet", all typed at the Dangerous Visions Bookstore in Sherman Oaks, California. My request was for the word "Raven" and the rest is history. Every time I met Harlan or his wife Susan, I simply had to say, "R is For Raven!". The stories were finally published in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction in 2001.
@bryce2702
@bryce2702 5 месяцев назад
I almost never comment on anything, but Ellison still compels my attention (and I really like this channel). My two favorite Ellison stories (and I’ve certainly not read everything he wrote) are Pretty Maggie Moneyeyes, which was published in a men's magazine, Knight, in 1967, and Pennies, Off a Dead Man's Eyes, which appeared in Galaxy in 1968. I've reread both these stories recently, as a guy in his late sixties and far removed from the teenager who read them initially, and if anything they are better than I remember. Really just gems of the short form. Neither of these stories won awards, though each was nominated for at least one. Other favorites did win awards, such as A Boy and His Dog and I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream. I will never forget the day I discovered Ellison. I was an eleven-year-old, rummaging through a box of used paperbacks on my Uncle Bill's porch in small-town Oklahoma, looking for something to read and looking also for solace from a recent move that had lifted me out of the relatively civilized environs of Fairfax County, VA, and deposited me onto the Medieval landscape of small-town Oklahoma. This was 1967. I remember turning over one book after another, putting aside those that looked of interest (exclusively fantasy and SF titles as I recall). At some point, I uncovered the first printing of Ellison’s short story collection, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, published as a paperback original by Pyramid. I read the title, and simply reading the title elicited an actual physical response in me, a chill, a literal tingling sensation, right down my spine. I’ll never forget it. Later, years later, upon reflection, I think that perhaps that title, for all it said and implied, spoke directly to the heart of what I felt at that dreadful time in my life but had no words of my own to express. I took the book home, along with many others, and I’ve been an Ellison fan ever since. About seven years later, I went to the one and only major SF convention I’ve ever been to, Discon II, the 1974 world con, which was held in Washington, DC. (We’d moved back to Fairfax County by then and left the Middle Ages behind. Good riddance.) I spent most of my time hanging out with friends in various rooms in the hotel, or haunting the dealers’ room, but I did attend the raucous “debate” featuring Ellison himself and Isaac Asimov one morning, and then later in the con I was there for the debut of the film version of Ellison’s A Boy and His Dog. Ellison and an actor/producer named Alvy Moore (of TV’s Green Acres fame) introduced the film, which Ellison explained was a “rough cut” and lacked a score, but had these marks every so often on the film stock, timing marks of some kind, that Ellison said the composer would use when writing the background music for the film. It was a memorable evening. This is not to say that I have nothing but praise for Ellison’s work overall. (And this paragraph, its inclusion here as a kind of coda, was largely triggered by something Stephen Andrews himself said regarding Christopher Priest’s less than flattering opinion of Ellison’s contributions to the field.) A fair number of Ellison’s stories, especially but not exclusively those from early in his career, were strictly potboilers, and largely undistinguished. At least one of Ellison’s award winners strikes me as over-wrought and pretentious, and that story was actually published at the height of Ellison’s popularity. To this day, I wonder if it would ever have seen print if not for Ellison’s byline below the title. As others have noted, Ellison benefited greatly from his own talent for self-promotion and his natural showmanship. But to that I can only add, good for him. I saw him in action twice and he was fun to watch. And his 1967 short story collection, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, extended a much-needed lifeline to the eleven-year-old I was at the time, and I’ll always be grateful for that.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
I like those two stories, both excellent. "Maggie" got me straight away and "Pennies" has grown on me more with age too. I wish I could have met HE, despite the sometimes negative stories one hears. I would agree that there are many rough coals surrounding the diamonds, but what diamonds there were! Many thanks for your kind and lengthy comment, great, thanks for sharing it with us here!
@kennyrh9269
@kennyrh9269 Год назад
Wonderful video as usual. I've been around SF since 1962 but I've learned so much from you. I've been an Ellison disciple since the early 70s - read everything and what a writer. I was lucky enough to meet him when he came to London in 1976 to promote two of his Millington hardcovers. I approached him with some trepidation having read about some of his run ins with US fans but he was nothing but gracious and polite to me. In fact he signed a whole casebook of books, which I had brought more in hope than expectation, and had a wonderful 20 minute conversation with him about his work. Anyway keep up the sterling work - especially the book hauls that I find most educational.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Wow, lucky you. I'm a huge fan as you can tell. Glad you're enjoying the channel!
@rickkearn7100
@rickkearn7100 Год назад
Ellison caused my head to explode when I bought a Signet 1974, 10th printing PB edition of this anthology. I recall how uncomfortable he made the reader, and never quite resolved all the conflicting elements to my complete satisfaction. I found this refreshing, having weaned myself on the 1950's stories from the so called titans of that era. Quick note: my version has a couple/few more stories, which you've no doubt seen in other places: Along The Scenic Route, The Place With No Name and, Shattered Like A Glass Goblin. Thanks so much for posting, I've added this to my winter reading list. I really enjoy your channel OB! Cheers.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, I know all those stories well -"Along The Scenic Route" is a favourite ('Mad Max' inspiration I'd say), "Shattered..." is the famous drug/Viet Nam one of course - both great, but better placed in other collections. " Place With No Name" is good, but not up to the same standard. He took my head off too and I've never been the same since.
@andykuhn9798
@andykuhn9798 Год назад
Great video. Thanks for making it. I met Ellison briefly at a convention twenty-ish years back. He was a tiny, tightly packed, ball of energy. Constantly on the move. He told me my artwork reminded him of the great DC artist Ramona Fradon. I'll take that all day, every day! :)
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Praise indeed! I'd love to have me HE, as I idolised him for so long...
@sarcastanaut
@sarcastanaut 18 дней назад
A Boy and His Dog is a masterpiece. The whole book is. Ellison rules.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 18 дней назад
Absolutely.
@Scottlp2
@Scottlp2 Год назад
I read “I have No Mouth and Must Scream” probably 40 years ago. Not for everyone.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
That's around the time I first read it. My personal feeling is that if more SF readers were exposed to sharp material like this at a young age, they'd develop better critical faculties when reading- but it is a shocker, yes.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
Geez mate! I'm still trying to finish the bookshelf tour! And I've GOT to focus on your Ellison!
@michaelhall2709
@michaelhall2709 7 месяцев назад
It’s a great (though sadly predictable) irony that Ellison is probably best-remembered at the present time for writing a script that was rewritten to his great dissatisfaction, for a television series he largely despised.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 месяцев назад
Well, most writers who dabble in screenwriting end up remembered for that instead of their books- as you say, a sadly predictable irony!
@glyph6757
@glyph6757 Месяц назад
Speaking of influences on "The Terminator", check out Philp K Dick's story "Second Variety", which was published in 1953
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
I read it back in the early 1980s. I read all of PKDs published work between 1976 and 1986.
@frankturrentine
@frankturrentine Год назад
my favorite science fiction collection ever. I purchased it quite young by accident. I'll be 60 this year, and this remains the best collection I ever had.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I'll turn 60 too and I feel the same way- though I waver between the Ellison and Bester's 'Dark Side of the Earth', which I did a video review of here around a year ago.
@reddragon70
@reddragon70 Год назад
My introduction to Ellison came in the form of a paperback of Shatterday. My mother collected a load of paperbacks for a jumble sale in the early 80s. The cover and the name just sunk a hook into my teenaged head and started reading it. One of the best decisions I have made in my life. It sparked a journey of discovery that has lasted all my life. I’ve tried to track down as much of Ellisons work as I can and continue to do so. Likewise I never met him and only had the opportunity to communicate with him via his website, but from that I have two signed books which have become treasures in my library. I came close to meeting him only once when he was slated to be guest of honour at Albacon 94 I believe, but sadly he was unable to attend due to health reasons. His impact on the genre of science fiction and culture is massive, and I will forever be grateful for his works.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I can only agree with everything you've said. 'Shatterday' was my first Ellison hardcover, when new in the UK - though it was a remainder- and I think only my third or fourth HE book. Who can forget "Jefty Is Five" or the title story? Great work and as you say, massively important.
@JackMyersPhotography
@JackMyersPhotography Год назад
Fantastic video, Stephen, keeping awareness of Ellison’s greatness alive is a vital thing for SF as an institution. Harlan was an excellent presenter/reader of his works, too, a real showman. I have “On the Road” and “Run for the Stars” as read by him and I recommend them, they’re fabulous. Finally, I’m relived I do have a hardback US Edition of “The Beast…” that I picked up in mint condition for a few bucks in the 80s. Now I feel like I need to go dig it out out of storage. I really do appreciate your love for things like this, thanks.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
My pleasure!
@spookymouse8456
@spookymouse8456 Год назад
As a young British fan of Ellison its very frustrating to me that we will probably never get any editions of his books in physical print and that he isn't as well known as he should be. That said, he isn't as unknown to some as one might think, among horror video game fans, the game adaptation of I have no mouth has put him on the map to some people who otherwise would have never heard of him. Although because of that, its propelled that work into a position were it overshadows some of his best stuff, which is a shame, since while I like I have no mouth, I don't think it compares to some of his other stories. Great video as usual!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Agreed. Ellison's absence from British paperback publishing since the end of the 1970s is pretty much down to his attitude toward publishers- he lost his deal with Pan in the UK when he offended some of their staff and if you're like this, publishers will drop you (it happened to Keith Roberts too, as many of my comments about him on the channel reveal). This seemed to take place in the States next, as after the early 80s, he relied increasingly on small presses and in the last 20 years, print on demand, which is no place for a key writers' work to languish. Also, the fact that he wrote few novels make him too 'difficult' for the many raised on endless SF series which just ape Fantasy sequences in their non-resolution. You're a very heartening exception to this, good for you! I wasn't aware there was a game of 'Mouth'. I like it, but wouldn't put it in my top ten Ellison tales -maybe not even top 20. Glad you enjoyed the video, by the way, thanks!
@sylvanyoung
@sylvanyoung Год назад
Ellisons nonfiction is well worth a gander .
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, I like every kind of writing he produced, I'm a very big fan of 'Memos From Purgatory' for example.
@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309
The glass teat is some of the most fun you can have with dated commentary as well.
@geordiejones5618
@geordiejones5618 5 месяцев назад
This video should have way more views. It's great coverage of who is today a very underrated writer and this seems like a must have collection for fans of any speculative fiction. I was blown away by his most famous story, when I got to the end and there's the title as the last sentence, and it wasn't gimmicky at all, it works so well as both title/intro and conclusion. The anecdotes about Ellison are very interesting too.
@asdasd-yo6nb
@asdasd-yo6nb Месяц назад
I was introduced to this book from the final episode of the anime, Neon Genesis Evangelion, titled “The Beast That Shouted I at the Heart of the World”, thought it had to be a reference to some sort of poem or another type of media. Turns out it was a book! I was excited about it until I read the first short story, I have never been more confused in my life. Regardless I want to come back to it. So thank you for making this video!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
That's the whole point. You'll find the stories that follow more understandable.
@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309
Great Video. I am one of those rare people under 50 who know and revere Ellisons work (born in '88). In high school I made a "coffee and cigarettes" friend with the father of a school friend. He introduced me to many great writers, but Ellison was the one I had the most instant and enduring affinity for. I am always encouraging people to read him. I feel that for contemporary audiences his work is hard to get into though. That his talent was as a short story writer and essayist, the stylistic and tonal differences of his works when placed right next to one another, many readers distaste for prefaces and so called ansiliary material, and that temperament that he couldn't help put right in the work... He seems to be much easier for people who can relate to contempt and outrage and take it for granted that humanity is at the core of it. And despite his distaste for Fandom, I think he is a writer for people like myself, people who do want to "go to bed" with the artists who's work they admire, to learn what it is that they love and hate and where they came from. For me, it was the Deathbird and I Have No Mouth... Those stories I cannot help but come back to at least a couple times a year. It's difficult to write stories that are poisonously bleak and provide sufficient antidote. I would suggest McCarthys "The Road" is an example of how even great prose writers so often fail at this.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Agreed on all points - though I would say I think Cormac has a different aim in some ways, acceptance- not a big Harlan thing!
@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309
@Outlaw Bookseller I should read more McCarthy. I liked Blood Meridian way more than The Road. I just felt the ending of The Road was so cheap. And that I had been absorbed by a book that ultimately said nothing of love and duty that's not completely obvious and that it really wasn't about anything other than exploiting the readers' empathy. Sort of touches on what you were saying about Harlans work being sensationalized. Harlan clearly understood that shocking readers was pointless without trying to get across some indignity or flaw in humanity and why we should be bothered to do something about it. With The Road, I can not find any antidote in those pages, or any reason why I should take seriously the allegory of the boy being a Christ figure. One of the reasons I love apocalyptic novels is because they are ultimately optimistic. But the only optimistic take on The Road I can find is that the earth will one day repair long after the degraded and inevitable slow death of humans. I just finished The Road, so it's on my mind... Now I'm rereading Earth Abides, and it seems positively sunshiny bright by comparison. Not to mention full of tough-chew optimism. I can't stop thinking about The Road, so obviously, that's something. But I'm so bothered by its pointlessness. And then to throw in some notion of purpose in the end when it's clear that it's cancer, cannibalism and no future, no population rebuilding, no lesson learned. I would have at least respected the novels ending if it had been true to form, with the little boy just deciding to eat a bullet or being carried off by the cannibals. That would have at least said something existentially true; that things can be, have been and will again be as bad as you can imagine. That the worlds potential is frail and finite... Sorry for the long winded and unprompted reply. That book has been on my mind and bugging the hell outta me.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
@@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309 I would say 'The Road' -which I admittedly loved, but this is down to the quality of the prose above everything else- owes much to 'Earth Abides'- and have said so many times. I think the McCarthy si for me like Ishiguro's SF - beautifully written but not as conceptually strong or as multifacetted as many genre works with the same or similar themes.
@themojocorpse1290
@themojocorpse1290 7 месяцев назад
@@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309 I felt exactly the same about The Road the utter bleakness of it bothered me for a while afterwards . I guess it says something about the book that it stays with you but it left me feeling rather grim to say the least. Not that I didn’t think it was a very good book I just won’t read it again I don’t think ! once was enough . I will definitely read Blood meridian at some point .
@erikpaterson1404
@erikpaterson1404 2 месяца назад
I've managed to find Paingod and other delusions. Thw general theme is about rejection if the establishment of the struggles and challenges of the individual against corrupt authorities. A recurring them in many of his stories. Just beautiful.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 2 месяца назад
Yes, it's great stuff! Try and find 'Deathbird Stories' which Ellison described as a "pantheon of Modern Gods"- powerful stuff!
@rpmfla
@rpmfla 3 месяца назад
Ellison was actually the very first speculative fiction author I discovered as a teenager back in the 70's, and to this day I own more of his books (including this one) than any other author I've discovered since. Picking a favorite story is like trying to pick my favorite Jethro Tull or Pink Floyd song. There are so many good ones it just depends on my mood. I do recall that my first favorite was "Deathbird".
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 3 месяца назад
Yes, that's a great one- I was blown away by how experimental it seemed first time I read it. I'm still massively fond of his finest works now, decades after first reading them.
@Meckiffe1976
@Meckiffe1976 Месяц назад
Thanks for this. I'm about your age (62 in 2024 from UK) and I was a big fan of Ellison coming from the Marvel comics fascination with the US and its' culture. I have all those books (and more) upstairs in the attic and went and got the yellow Pan copy immediately. Thanks for such a detailed summary for reminding me of this. I wound up living in the US and teaching media history, so this stuff had its effect on me, especially the Glass Teat criticisms and his polemics against 60's and 70's comics. Cheers.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Месяц назад
Yes, I liked the material Ellison wrote for 'The Incredible Hulk', great stuff!
@RodneyAllanPoe
@RodneyAllanPoe Год назад
Fantastic overview. 'The Beast...' is my favourite Ellison story and an all-time favourite.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, that's a great, great story, pure avant-garde New Wave, magnificent!
@danieldelvalle5004
@danieldelvalle5004 Год назад
I see A Lit Fuse in the background, about Ellison's life. Have you read it?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, quite recently.
@thomaslockett520
@thomaslockett520 Год назад
Discovered Ellison last year through audiobooks, really enjoyed them. But havent seen any copies in any shops I have visited.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
His books have been scarce secondhand for decades- people tend to hang onto them and there have been no real mass-market editions since the 1980s, though there have been print on demand ones. Now he's gone, hopefully his estate will manage to get mainstream publishers to reissue his key work so a wider audience can discover/rediscover him. In my youth, he was MASSIVE as you can tell!
@richardking3206
@richardking3206 Год назад
Thanks for this! I know bugger all about Ellison, except that he wrote he some film/tv stories that were well thought of. I’m familiar with PKD’s short stories and love the form, so HE should be right up my alley. I’ve been wondering where to start and happened across this post. I have ME and my concentration is shot, so it’s audio books for me, I’m afraid. I’ve just found a bunch, so will pick through those based on what you’ve recommended. I’ve subscribed in hope of learning more. I seem to share some of your likes and dislikes (based on what you say here) and steer clear of space opera and the increasingly lengthy door stops that are produced these days. Thanks again, and I’ll rifle through your videos for some inspiration!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Please do - you'll find lots of sharp superfine unbloated SF here. There's an extensive backlist to view and much, much more to come. Welcome aboard!
@camo_for_cocktails
@camo_for_cocktails Год назад
Greatly enjoyed your overview of Ellison and look forward eagerly to more of the same . I got a book club edition of his “Approaching Oblivion “ collection way back in the day but was too young to fully appreciate what he was doing. I’ve since found paperbacks of some of his nonfiction books like Purgatory and his two volume collection of television criticism, The Glass Teat. Great video.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Thanks Len!
@themojocorpse1290
@themojocorpse1290 7 месяцев назад
Finally got my hands on a nice copy of The beast that shouted love At the heart of the world.Taken me a while to find a decent copy that didn’t cost the earth but good things come to he who waits . 😁👍🏻
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 месяцев назад
Let me know how you get on with it.
@themojocorpse1290
@themojocorpse1290 7 месяцев назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal don’t count your chickens before they hatch ! My copy of the beast that shouted love has been damaged apparently ?? so didn’t receive it after all very disappointing so the search continues. The only consolation Is got the Centauri device. M John Harrison as a replacement. Not received that yet don’t count your chickens……
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 месяцев назад
@@themojocorpse1290 Argh! I feel your pain!
@SolarLabyrinth
@SolarLabyrinth 7 месяцев назад
Wow, I just read Ellison's introduction to this collection and got goosebumps. If the stories it contains are half as good as the intro, I am in for a real treat.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 7 месяцев назад
You'll love it: the introduction sets the tone for the stories, which are, quite frankly, incredible. Let me know how you get on with it.
@paulm8253
@paulm8253 Год назад
Best thing about you Steve is you talk about books that inspire you and by default they are way off the mainstream. Too many booktube channels just follow convention, one channel highlights a book then before you know it all channels within SF and Fantasy are talking about the same thing and it becomes slightly tedious. Keep up the good work 👏
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Well, being a mature guy and life-sentence bookseller, I've seen lots of great stuff fall by the wayside and be ignored: popular isn't always bad, by any means, but it is often conservative - and with SF, it needs to have outsider edge, a different way of altering your consciousness to be truly great SF. Stick with me, as more out there material will follow and watch that backlist! Thanks for your very kind words.
@paulm8253
@paulm8253 Год назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal pretty much been through the back catalogue. More often than not you're on in the background when working from home! 😀
@zamiadams4343
@zamiadams4343 3 месяца назад
Your knowledge of science fiction is amazing Stephen, i've just ordered this book after watching this episode, yet again thank you!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 3 месяца назад
You're very kind. I've taken my SF seriously at home and at work for a very long time, as you can tell!
@harryl2232
@harryl2232 2 месяца назад
i found a hard back, book club edition here in the uk yesterday. read three stories and needed to jump on youtube to see if i was not alone!. very informative video Steve thanks
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 2 месяца назад
Pleasure.
@robertjbroadhurst3860
@robertjbroadhurst3860 Год назад
This is great stuff Steve to find out Ellison’s background and what’s worth reading. Just did a search for this on eBay and Abe and no luck (yet). You’re firing up my enthusiasm for SF big time…
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
"Harlan Ellison Books" all one word is the address for the fellow who was working with Harlan for years before he passed, and is the curator of his literary estate. There's a bunch of books to be found there & info about them, then, when in doubt, you can bargain shop elsewhere.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
There'll be an Ellison paperback overview coming here at some point and a look at hardcover firsts. There'll be more about his work beyond that, in some depth where particular stories are concerned.
@prehistoricturtlesaurus5309
Do yourself a huge favor and just fork out the dough for a copy of "The essential ellison". They can be found at a not-so-terribly-unreasonable price if you do a bit of hunting.
@paulcampbell6003
@paulcampbell6003 Год назад
Only the UK editions of the collection contain 12 stories: the American editions all contain 15, including all those published before your beloved Pan paperback. I have a gorgeous mint copy edition of the Bluejay edition from 1984 with the wonderful Barclay Shaw cover. Have all the Barclay Shaw editions - those were the last time Ellison's book looked good and, sadly, were widely availablity in paperback. Your fellow 50 year old skiffy geek from Scotland!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I think you're right. I had a signed hardcover in a slipcase from the 90s, which i sold on a few years ago, as I didn't like the revisions. Nice to see someone else using the affectionate fan term 'skiffy' and not the dreadful 'sci-fi'!
@nunyabizness6595
@nunyabizness6595 5 месяцев назад
"There was no singing and dancing." Quite funny. My coffee almost shot out my nose at that one!😂😂😂
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
Glad you liked it!
@HansDelbruck53
@HansDelbruck53 Месяц назад
That'll teach you to drink coffee.
@leakybootpress9699
@leakybootpress9699 Год назад
I always cringe when I hear such insupportable comments as "the best SF short story collection ever", because... well, you can guess why! But I share your enthusiasm for his writing. On my only encounter with him, in London years ago, he was charming, helpful and generous with his time.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Well, I know what you're saying James and I'll admit I'm being purely subjective and personal here. Glad to hear HE was pleasant as there's so much negative press about him as you well know. Great to hear from you, we must chat more!
@kufujitsu
@kufujitsu 9 месяцев назад
The first collection of Ellison I read was the '62 US paperback : "Earthman, Go Home!" His is bumper collection of collaborative SF, : "Partners in Wonder", was good as well, which featured his SF efforts with writers such as Sheckley, Sturgeon, Bloch, Zelazny, & many others. My favorite all-time story by Ellison was the novella "Mephisto in Onyx", which is found in his last collection : "Slippage", but there are countless stories by him which hit the mark if I'm to be honest.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 9 месяцев назад
Yes, his overall standard was pretty high!
@kackljas
@kackljas Год назад
I had my first exposure to Harlan Ellison recently. I read "Repent Harliquin! Said The Ticktock Man" , part of the anthology "Masterpieces: The Best Science Fiction Of The Twentieth Century", edited by Orson Scott Card. It was one of the top SF stories I've ever read with a unique writing style not found in any other SF writing. It made me think about what would happen if George Orwell, Philip K Dick, and Jack Kerouac ate psilocybin mushrooms together and decided to collaborate on a short story.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Exactly. At his best, Harlan was magnificent - that's one of his most celebrated stories of course, rightly so, but if you can pick up 'Beast' and 'Deathbird Stories', you get most of the gold that way.
@ExecuMutant
@ExecuMutant Год назад
I discovered Ellison (and other sci-fi authors) in 1971, in Jr High School (Kensington, Maryland, USA). The school Librarian must have been a sci-fi fan -because the collection was pretty amazing. The book was an anthology titled Alone Against Tomorrow : stories of alienation. I remember that one of the stories was Are You Listening. I was blown away by the stories and I've been an Ellison fan ever since.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, that's a good story, a fave of mine. I had a similar school library experience, one of my female English teachers used to buy SF in for our library as many of the guys in the shcool liked it.
@wbbartlett
@wbbartlett Год назад
The movie, A Boy & His Dog, is great fun. Love it.
@Cathal.
@Cathal. 6 месяцев назад
You're a gentleman and a scholar. I've read Shatterday and Strange Wine, Dangerous Visions and other stories anthologised in various collections; but this volume is hard to come by in print. There is an audiobook version, narrated by Angelo Di Loreto, on Audible.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 6 месяцев назад
Thank you. Ellison is always worth reading- and a major reissue programme from a trade publisher is long overdue. We can hope...
@monkeyonthemountain
@monkeyonthemountain Год назад
I have the '74 Signet with the amazing cover. Ellison was a genius.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
What can be better than American editions mate?
@ronaldwilliams2456
@ronaldwilliams2456 Год назад
Memo From Purgatory was done as an Alfred Hitchcock episode with James Caan in the lead. It was pretty good.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
So I've read but I've never seen it, which I must remedy. I've read the book at least three times, brilliant. Caan was fantastic, I ffel.
@bookssongsandothermagic
@bookssongsandothermagic Год назад
Interesting video. I’ve been a fan of Ellison’s for 30+ years and I’m prepping two videos next year about him for my channel. I have already done a review of Boy and His Dog on my channel. My favourite story of his is Repent Harlequin said the Ticktockman but there are so many great ones.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yep, "Repent," is one of many great stories by HE. Glad you liked it.
@chriswright9096
@chriswright9096 5 месяцев назад
A Boy and His Dog was used as a fine example of expressionist literature at university level, at least during the 80s. I'm not sure the average English Lit prof would go near it these days though. And you are right about the animal on the cover looking more like a cat. Some of the SF cover art was truly dreadful in that era and I don't think the writers had much control over it. Certainly I've heard Silverberg make that complaint.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
" A Boy and His Dog" was a startler back in the 1960s, but now.....it remains a masterwork of SF writing.
@erikpaterson1404
@erikpaterson1404 2 месяца назад
Heinlein on Ellison This is clearly not a book to read to the children to put them to sleep at night; this stuff is raw corn liquor - you should serve a whiskeybroom with each shot so that the customer can brush the sawdust off after he gets up from the floor. - Letter to the Author, from Paingod and Other Delusions
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 2 месяца назад
Yes, recalling reading that in my copy of 'Paingod'. Wise words.
@rachelmaley2218
@rachelmaley2218 Год назад
I was introduced to Harlan Ellison in 1974 with his Deathbird Stories collection. I fell in love with his writing and read everything by him I could get my hands on. It was him who taught me that reading the author's Foreword was a good thing. My absolute favorite story of his is from Strange Wine - Hitler Painted Roses. Magnificent use of the language! There'll never be another like him.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yeah, 'Deathbird Stories' is another favourite of mine. As you say, he was a one-off.
@danieldelvalle5004
@danieldelvalle5004 Год назад
I wanted to mention Blood's A Rover: The Complete Adventures Of A Boy And His Dog, edited by Jason Davis, dedicated to Michael Moorcock. TOC: Over the Hill by Jason Davis, Eggsucker, This Is A Conversation That Happened On A Wednesday Night, A Boy And His Dog, Run, Spot, Run, Blood's A Rover, Richard Corben, Story Commentary: 1981-2003 I have the Pan edition you showed in your video which is the version I read of A Boy And His Dog, but I haven't read the edition I mentioned above with its supplementary material.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
Jason Davis still runs the Harlan Ellison Books website. He has been carefully going over old, out of print pieces (following Harlan's instructions ) with full access to his archives & putting out publications here and there. If you're a completist, or just interested in his TV and movie scripts Jason has been putting out a series of collections of them called "Brain Movies."
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Yes, I was all over that as soon as it appeared, don't normally buy Subterranean Press, but this was a must!
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Год назад
That "Damp Apartment" as you put it is the FABULOUS "Bradbury Building" in LA and you can (uncharacteristically) enjoy it clean and sunlit in the Jack Nicholson "Wolf" movie. (In which the show is stolen IMHO by David Hyde Pierce.)
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
That's the one...
@barrrie
@barrrie Год назад
Love these kinds of videos. Had to go for an audiobook version of TBTSLATHOTW. How's that for an acronym! 😀. Great video, I learned a lot as usual - much appreciated. Cheers.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Love it!
@alexiskiri9693
@alexiskiri9693 8 месяцев назад
I always thought James Tiptree Jr was a great short story writer also.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 8 месяцев назад
Yes, excellent stuff- I talk about her story "The Girl Who Was Plugged In" in some depth in my recent 'Cyberpunk Precursors' video.
@victorrodley9099
@victorrodley9099 Год назад
I concur with your views on Ellison,and this collection in particular.but most of his work seems to be out of print,or if available seem to command high prices,I have a Copy of 'The beast' in edgeworks 4,and have been trying to find a Stand alone copy for a while,but to no avail,having tried all the major SF bookshops.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
There have been no mass market paperbacks in the UK since the late 70s and the early 80s in the USA. yes, there were some trades after that, but Ellison tended to fall out with mass market publishers (as did Keith Roberts). While this is at times understandable, it usually does an author's work no good- if you are a major genre author, you need to be with a big publisher: the small guys, even the truly great ones, simply don't have the marketing and distribution saturation.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
​​@@outlawbookselleroriginal Absolutely true. Don't forget, At the time his mmpb's were drying up, the industry was looking for Epic Series & really NOT interested in short story and essay collections for genre. Even Stephen King got paid less for collections! Where did that leave poor "Not a Household Name" Ellison? His Hb originals still got released, and some of those had trade paperback follow-ups ( probably re-binds) but his essential works were just not making it to stores.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
@@waltera13 I agree he fell foul of the whole shift toward endless series, for which we can blame Fantasy publishing. But his failure to appear in - for example -Masterworks in the UK (DV aside) shows that mass market publishers wouldn't work with him- this is how he lost the license at Pan, he was just too difficult.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal You misunderstand. I do not argue that HE was not difficult, I argue that he could not see the climate change around him, & at a certain point was fighting battles over minutiae when new generation of buyers were wondering "why bother" for short stories. By the 80s or 90s who cared about two teen delinquent novels from the 50s? In the 60s it served him to dig in, but in the 80s he overestimated his cultural cache. At least, that's my read. I haven't gotten the bio yet
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
@@waltera13 I think you make a fair comment.
@erikpaterson1404
@erikpaterson1404 2 месяца назад
There is something about the short story, isn't there... they don't always give you everything, many of the good and great short stories leave one with the vast landscape, or tapestry, or canvas... leaving the reader to fill in the blanks, if any, leaving the reader to imagine the multitude of possibilities to take it further perhaps...
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 2 месяца назад
The short story is mostly how I judge a writer's ability: some make their mark with novels and it's their key work, but the story is sometimes the true yardstick.
@zkinak2107
@zkinak2107 Год назад
Hey thanks for making this video! A retiring professor at my university was giving away books to students and I got a hold of a 1969 Avon edition of the collection for free! I did notice that the US edition had 3 additional stories in it that the Pan edition didn’t have despite the Pan edition coming out in 1979. Along The Scenic Route Shattered like a glass goblin White on White What are your thoughts on these additional three stories if you have covered them? I’m curious to read them but I’m unsure if I should leave them for last when I read the collection.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I think I mentioned " White On White" briefly in this video, it is in the UK edition. I personally feel the UK edition is perfect- though those other stories are excellent, two faves. In the UK "Along...." is in 'Deathbird Stories' and "Shattered..." is elsewhere. Both superb stories, but for me they'll always belong in different books. But no reason why you shouldn't read them in a US edition, as they are both brilliant!
@bigalexg
@bigalexg 5 месяцев назад
Stopped this great video mid-way and dug up A Boy and His Dog. Great story. You set expectations very high but I was not disappointed. Loved Blood! "You're acting like a damn poodle". So many great lines. "I tell you, I can smell her. She's in here, man." These dogs, what a concept, the kind of novel idea you talk about being the soul of the genre? This stuff is mind-expanding and refreshingly "incorrect" but it had to be to tell the truth. Funny how we have to go back to find art so free and truly progressive. Sadly, I suspect we'll never see the like again, not with the thought police hoovering over the cancel button. I can say that, being anonymous, and I know you would like to. This is coming from an old hippie Yank who voted for Obama twice and, well, enough said, I guess. I don't know, but you would, could this or Clockwork Orange be written today?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
Well, in an interview with my friend Christopher Priest - who died on friday- we talked about his most controversial book, 'Fugue For A Darkening Island' but decided mutually to remove much of what we said, for , as he said in the video (we kept this in) 'It would not be published today,'. "A Boy & His Dog" is one of the most important SF stories ever, but most people under 40 have never heard of it, which is a sad indictement of how writers who primarily focus on short fiction have been treated for the last 30 years.
@holydissolution85
@holydissolution85 Год назад
Jeffty is Five...
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Well yes!
@gaileverett
@gaileverett 9 месяцев назад
After reading story after shocking, mind-boggling story from Ellison during his heyday (I subscribed to two SF magazines and regularly bought the Dozois anthologies) I was stunned by the genius of "Jeffty Is Five," with a tone completely unlike anything he had done before except parts of the beautiful "Deathbird." The man had a massive gift.
@Drforbin941
@Drforbin941 5 месяцев назад
Can I get a copy of dangerous visions from you?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
No, I don't have one to sell. It's available in the UK from Gollancz and a hardcover reissue comes out later this year.
@niriop
@niriop Год назад
A brilliant collection. “Worlds to Kill” is one of the best SF stories I’ve ever read. I do have to say though that a couple do fall flat for me, in particular the “Santa Claus vs S.P.I.D.E.R” novelette, which I didn’t find amusing, as well as being very dated.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I love "Worlds To Kill" too as I indicated, total classic. As for "Santa Claud Vs S.P.I.D.E.R.", I'll freely admit it was my least preferred of all the stories when I first read it. I don't, however, use the word 'dated' much - personally, I prefer to think of things being 'of their time' and will admit that story is of its time, but it does show how Harlan and the New Wave school did try to be relevant and satirical regarding contemporary politics, which I think most SF now is very bad at- way too much of what is going on now is sheer escapism (not that this hasn't always been there, of course). Thanks for your comment, always good to hear from another initiate into the Ellisonian cult!
@sylvanyoung
@sylvanyoung Год назад
Never was able and still cant get my hands on much Ellison . I do have ' Gentleman Junkie ' , ' I Have No Mouth & I Must Scream ' and ' Love Aint Nothing But Sex Misspelled ' love them all . But truth be told my first Ellison short story was ' "Repent Harlequin " Said The Ticktockman ' . A good place for me .Had i read ABAHD first i might have said no . Ellison wrote one of if not the best Star Trek stories . Ps ABAHD 👍. Nuff said
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
Check the address "Harlan Ellison Books" all one word - It's a good starting point
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Walter A is right re the current editions. But the mass market originals are always nicer. I've had most of mine for at least 35 years plus...
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Год назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I just got in the habit of sending folks there in Ellison's last days, and then after, because the money went to Susan. My collection is primarilly originals too. What he's got right now is mostly the old early harder to find stuff. Until recently he had "Beast TSLatHoTW" which is why I was pushing, but they appear to be gone now. I know that the Dangerous Visions trio is going to be reissued next year into '24.
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 Год назад
He was also a consultant on Babylon 5.
@waltera13
@waltera13 Год назад
@@wingracer1614 The Producer of which (J. Michael Straczynski) administrates his estate.
@LtMandrake
@LtMandrake 6 месяцев назад
Hi. Looking to BUY that very book. Can we chat?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 6 месяцев назад
My copy of 'Beast' will never be sold while I'm alive, I'm afraid.
@LtMandrake
@LtMandrake 6 месяцев назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal No problem. You had mentioned you had trouble selling at the video intro and I happen to have been in the market for it. Can't BELIEVE how difficult it is to find a good hard copy. Thanks for the reply!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 6 месяцев назад
@@LtMandrake What I said was that it has never been in print in a mass market edition in the UK during my time as a high street bookseller, so I was rarely able to sell it, except about ten years ago in a print on demand edition. Sad, it's so uncool when people like yourself want the book so badly! Best of luck with yr search!
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Год назад
So Sorry: Nick Turner has left the Continuum.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
I know. What a guy, it really is the twilight of the idols.
@Drforbin941
@Drforbin941 5 месяцев назад
anyway we can talk?
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 5 месяцев назад
You can email me by going to the 'About' section on the channel, click on it then scroll down to the email contact section.
@peterflom6878
@peterflom6878 Год назад
Ellison was great as a writer. I've read a good bit of it, but not this collection
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
Try and pick it up, Peter, it's awesome!
@peterflom6878
@peterflom6878 Год назад
@@outlawbookselleroriginal I will look for it. I also got your book on 100 must reads - I've read a lot of them, but am adding to my TBR list.
@tedwatson1743
@tedwatson1743 3 месяца назад
I prefer Ray Bradbury--he has better ideas.
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal 3 месяца назад
I love Bradbury too, but he's quite different in intent and not really comparable. But I wouldn't say he's any better than Harlan on ideas with SF- but of course both of them wrote a lot of non-SF. Bradbury, of course, came fir#st, so he naturally claims primacy, SF being tilted toward pioneers as a genre.
@kellieeverts8462
@kellieeverts8462 Год назад
Beast sounds just like Trump and what media said we had to love
@salty-walt
@salty-walt Год назад
I really like "Story Time with Uncle Steve." Pick a book & give us background and a few more readings. Heck I'd like more Ellison readings. we're baby birds boyo, get the dropper and feed us!
@outlawbookselleroriginal
@outlawbookselleroriginal Год назад
You betcha.
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