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Harley Benton Electric Guitar Kit Review - it's awful! 

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Friends don't let friends buy these, please! It's TERRIBLE! Let me explain why.

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@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
A lot of comments here from people angry about this, refusing to accept my points. Please remember, 1) No matter who buys this, or who it is intended for, every fault and flaw I point out is real and a problem. 2) People, including beginners, *are* actually buying it thinking they’ll get a playable guitar for cheap. It does not matter if you think they are mistaken for doing so, or if they are the target market or not. They deserve to be informed and warned of the reality of these kits.
@grankvarsvik4153
@grankvarsvik4153 6 месяцев назад
I`d say anyone looking for a cheap decent instrument should stay away from the HB kits, and instead go for one of the cheapest complete HB guitars. I have had the TE20 and two ST20`s and both were great requiring very little setup work to be playable at a very decent level. Also cheaper considering all that goes into completing one of these kits. I won`t get started on the HB kits. I have built a few, and I totally agree with you on them.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 6 месяцев назад
They are adequately "warned" on Thomann's website. If they disregard the text on the site, the problem is not with the product. If I buy a brick because I heard I could use it to make a house, is the brick faulty when I can't build a house?
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
@@ryanthenormal That's the most disingenuous analogy in defense of this I've seen yet. They didn't buy "a brick".They bought all the bricks to build a house. It's literally a "build your own house" kit. Here's the thing - they're horrible bricks. And the quality of bricks doesn't change depending on who buys it or why.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 6 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar You're accusing me of being disingenuous? Mate, your entire argument is disingenuous. All of it. You're actively disregarding everyone who disagrees with you. You are saying to people who spent money on the kits - knowing what they were buying and why - that they're wrong. You are claiming that you and only you are right based on your friend's experience on buying one when she has no interest in using it for the intended purpose. This is nothing but ridiculous.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
@@ryanthenormal Utter nonsense. My friend's opinion is never mentioned. This is MY opinion, 35 years experience with guitars, 20 as a professional musician and guitar tech. When I tell you it's a truly terrible kit it's because it is. End of.
@OldBiker
@OldBiker 8 месяцев назад
Because you have one kit guitar that don't play well, why start telling everyone they will spend a fortune to get it to play right, I've had two Harley Benton kit guitars, the prs style and the jazzmaster style and both of them play brilliant, the only maintenance that was needed was a little truss rod adjustment. By this video it's pretty obvious you just don't like Harley Benton guitars.
@lucasek3285
@lucasek3285 7 месяцев назад
These are not a cheap "first instrument" alternative as you point at on many comments, the same instrument is sold completely built and finished at the exact same price for beginners. These are kits for people that want to tinker and to learn how to build-upgrade a guitar, buying this without tools or expecting to change-improve stuff makes 0 sense.
@CANNIMAGINE
@CANNIMAGINE 10 месяцев назад
Don't listen to this guy. These are fun to build and you can end up with a decent inexpensive guitar that you built yourself. There are lots of good guitars for less than $200 these days. He is correct if you have to depend on a guitar tech for everything you will spend a lot of money. RU-vid has videos on everything and how to improve these inexpensive guitars.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 10 месяцев назад
Most people buying on lowest end of the market do not have the tools or skills to make cheap instruments playable. These are frequently beginners who still have to learn how to tune their instrument, may have never changed a string. How are they gonna adjust nut slot depth and fix high frets? Telling them “RU-vid has videos on everything” really isn’t helpful. Don’t confuse your own experience with the reality for most people.
@wriglarzzz
@wriglarzzz 7 месяцев назад
I agree with the video person. Don't recommend this to people and put them in a hole they don't want to be in.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
​@@DrKevGuitar Given that the kits are at the same price point at HB's low end guitars, I don't think anyone is buying one of these to get a cheap guitar. They're buying them as a first step in guitar building. And for that, they're fine. I have to say that the kits I've bought and built have been fine - everything in the right place, frets level but unpolished etc. But polishing frets, fixing problems and discovering how to make things better is all part of learning how to build a guitar. To that end, it seems unlikely that any many of these will end up on a professional's bench unless something very unfortunate happens. Your colleague's situation, if described accurately, is very much a corner case and she'd have been better off buying a guitar, not a kit. Had she been interested in learning how to build and work on a guitar, rather than just having a guitar, she'd have learned how to do the work herself. I have also worked on a bottom of the range HB T-type and once the fret work was done, the fretboard was rolled and it was properly set up, I could not fault it. The intonation was fine, it felt comfortable and it was a lot of fun to play on until it went back to the owner. It needed no more work than you'd expect any budget guitar to need. In short, if you buy one of these kits, you aren't buying a guitar; you're buying the fun of building your own.
@TAVMANIAN
@TAVMANIAN 6 месяцев назад
​@@ryanthenormalThis is exactly right and this case is more rare than normal. I think this review of this misses this or it would emphasize it more. Still good info for those few that did not know they were going to get an heirloom quality guitar when done with their build and expect to get a luthier to do the work. How many thought that though? You can buy a completed HB, which are known for reasonable $ decent guitars for little more than the kit. Plus used guitars even would offer way better deals. It is obvious for the $ you can do better not buying a kit. Anyone buying this to save money or build a great guitar cheap is a fringe uninformed buyer (at best). People buy these kits for the fun of learning to work on guitars (most have other guitars they play and this might be just for fun), or to start learning the skills to become a luthier. Neither of these type majority buyers (vast majority) is going to a luthier with their kit unless they realize they are just not cut out to do it and then it was $ spent to learn that.
@lococomrade3488
@lococomrade3488 5 месяцев назад
@DrKevGuitar That's the issue. Rookie skills. Not the kits. Your own anger is misplaced. Blame your dumb friend. "Ooo no, the tone knob isn't working." Your friend did that. Not an inanimate object. It is possible the know was faulty. But that can be replaced cheap af. This video really is just misplaced anger.
@hodaboy1
@hodaboy1 9 месяцев назад
Michigan here. You're spot on with the inexpensive kits as being hit or miss. For my last two kits one seems to be great as far as kits goes. The other one I will have lots of time filling in holes and re-drilling them. I found it is always best to just buy good quality screws and pitch the ones from the kits. To me it is just the fun of building them and getting them to look okay from ten feet away.
@user-jp7hr5dy5k
@user-jp7hr5dy5k 7 месяцев назад
Omg. It is kit for players who wil fix and build guitar
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
Why so many of you are refusing to accept my point I just don’t know. 1) No matter who buys it, it sucks, it’s truly awful. 2) People are actually buying it thinking they’ll get a playable guitar for cheap. They deserve to be informed and warned of the reality.
@mrupskirt
@mrupskirt 6 месяцев назад
absolutely love the Frenchman Tea reference. Brilliant! I checked a few of these reviews and many of them seemed a bit apologetic and a bit of spin. Thank you for being honest about your experience. I think they need to be a bit more up-front about the amount of work that will need to be done. Cheap? yes, inexpensive? not in the long run. thank you. subscribed!
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
You’re very welcome and thank you for your comment! It’s nice not to be criticized or attacked for once! 🤣
@aeoteroa818
@aeoteroa818 10 месяцев назад
Gonna have to disagree. Many people have built these into well playing and sounding guitars and even gigged with them. Yes it takes time effort and knowledge but if you don't have those you may find it difficult or not worth your time
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 10 месяцев назад
Beginners buying these as a cheap alternative to a ready-made first instrument, will NEVER have the time, experience, tools and experience to develop the skills necessary to make these workable. And people that do charge $60 per hour and thats before replacement parts cost.
@TheEnergizedcinema
@TheEnergizedcinema 10 месяцев назад
I dont think beginners buy this. If you look at all the reviews, they are almost all experienced players
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
@@TheEnergizedcinema Exactly. People who are interested in learning about how to build guitars rather than people who just want to have a guitar. And for that they are perfect.
@user-py3cl5el4i
@user-py3cl5el4i 4 месяца назад
I’ve put together 3 of these kits. If you don’t finish with a great sounding a playing guitar, it’s user error. My first build was one of the prs kit and I was shocked by how good it is. Definitely try them they’re super simple to put together.
@perunasoffa9694
@perunasoffa9694 8 месяцев назад
Who on earth would buy $70 DIY guitar kit and then take it to luthier? Something here doesn't feel quite right 🤔
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 8 месяцев назад
Why? Because it the instrument was extremely difficult to play and had obvious problems and she didn't have the knowledge to correct it herself. We are friends, we both teach at the same rock school where I also maintain the instruments. She knows the quality of my work and trusts my judgement. I have worked on her partner's instruments. Hopefully she will teach my daughter piano one day too. There is no conspiracy to find here. (Note: I'm not a luthier, because I do not make instruments. I setup, maintain, and repair instruments, I am a guitar technician).
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
Someone who bought the wrong product. With no knowledge of, or desire to learn about, how to build a guitar, then buying a kit is a mistake. Everything after that was piling on more mistakes.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 7 месяцев назад
@@ryanthenormal Well, kind of maybe, and also no. People with the requried skills and tools probably won't ever buy a kit like this, because we know how bad it could be and know that it may never be right (e.g. higher chance of neck warped or warping etc). People who don't know are not only more likely to buy a kit like this, they are arguably a target market for it.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar You're missing the point I made that these are a good way to get the skills. As for people who don't know better being a target market for these: Thomann's product description states clearly that craft skills are required to assemble it. And that has been the case since at least 2018 when I bought my first one and cut my guitar building teeth. That alone makes it clear that these are not intended to be a cheap way to simply own a guitar.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 7 месяцев назад
@@ryanthenormal I disagree that they are a good way to get the skills. Learning how to change strings and do basic setup *on an already playable guitar* is where to start. And "craft skills"? 99% people think that means scissors and glue! No guitar tech or luthier would describe this as "craft skills". That's 100% nonsense.
@TurdFerguson101
@TurdFerguson101 6 месяцев назад
I bought a Harley Benton tele, from Thomann, about two years ago. It was a great experience tinkering with a guitar, and learning about how they go together. I basically use mine for 5 string open G tuning only, and it serves its purpose. The bonus thing about this guitar is, that I can play it anywhere, and not care what happens to it in a party situation. Cheers🍁
@bentravis99
@bentravis99 Год назад
Great video, thank you!
@30pitchcleaver
@30pitchcleaver Год назад
Right on Bro, and by the way, Cort is a Big operation that make guitars for many company's and a line of their own. I had one and it is an excellent instrument but I heard they shut it down.
@SgtYngve
@SgtYngve Месяц назад
I got the Single Cut-kit for my birthday a couple of years back. To me it was a great experience painting it and putting it together. But I replaced pretty much everything even before I started the build; locking tuners, Tusq nut, pickups, pots, knobs. Painted the top gold and the back black and even put a vinyl decal with my own last name on the headstock in the Gibson font. Feel like I learned a lot about setting up guitars, intonation, cleaning up sharp fret ends and so on. I'm really proud of how it turned out and it's very playable. But I see your points, would be far from as nice with only the stock components and without a willingness to learn and put in the effort yourself. If your a beginner and just want a playable instrument, the lowest end Harly Bentons costs as much as these kits and make a lot more sense in that senario.
@OldBiker
@OldBiker 8 месяцев назад
Oh and your charging a friend to do the work haha and not only that, has she seen this video of you slagging off her beloved guitar for ten minutes, bet she felt rotten if she did.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 8 месяцев назад
Of course I'm charging a friend. And I pay her for work she does for me. We're friends, we value each other's time and skills and we support each other. And yes, I told her I would shoot a video and she saw it. Once she put the guitar together she knew what it was. Nothing I said in the video was a surprise to her.
@santinhoww
@santinhoww Год назад
What about the most expensive ones? Like the Fusion model, etc
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar Год назад
I've never tried the most expensive ones. I've seen plenty of the non-kit cheap guitars which are similar in quality Squier but a 30% lower price point.
@TechnoRiff
@TechnoRiff 10 месяцев назад
I recently picked up an Indio HSS Strat clone for $75 new from Amazon, as a beater/luthierie education device. It's actually very decent with nice fretwork; just needed a proper setup. Even came with a decent gig bag. Harley Benton is gouging IMO for not even assembling or doing some basic QA on the neck. And not even SS frets like on some of their fully assembled products...
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 10 месяцев назад
Honestly, 1) you may have been very lucky. How many of those out of ten would we expect to be that good? 2) at that price it's hard to see how anyone can get anything out of the factory at that price without skipping steps.
@TechnoRiff
@TechnoRiff 10 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar I possibly got lucky on the one I received. However, the Indio Strats are generally well-regarded by many Guitar RU-vidrs, (Elmo K, Darrel B, etc.) and I tried one only after having watched a bunch of vids. Not saying that this guitar can rightly compare with my high-end ones, however, I've been pleasantly surprised with it.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 10 месяцев назад
@@TechnoRiff I’m very glad you’re happy with it!
@TechnoRiff
@TechnoRiff 10 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar Thanks! And no assembly required as well.
@Khonichev
@Khonichev Год назад
Dissuaded me from ever getting one, haha! Re: Squires - had a Classic Vibe that was dreadful all around but also lucked out on an Affinity Telecaster that was legitimately okay.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
If your aim is to learn guitar building and set up, there's no reason not to buy one of these so don't be put off. If you just want a guitar, why even bother buying a kit when Harley Benton has similar spec'd guitars at the exact same price point?
@WillieBeard
@WillieBeard День назад
When you leaned in and whispered, that’s what convinced me. So very Giamatti.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar День назад
@@WillieBeard 😂
@johnrefe
@johnrefe Год назад
It's a 90 euro art work :) you get what you pay for. My kit works, plays and stays in tune and only thing i hate about it is fretwork over 12+ , yes, they are bad, but it's a freaking block of wood with cheapest parts you can buy and most likely nobody pays much attention at QC . I bought this kit to learn about guitar, swap parts, experiment with different things and eventually fix everything on it myself and that is what I think why most people buy them. I also learned the lessen to not overtighten the screw, well, things happen .. SURE - from all my guitars, this kit is the cheapest one, it feels cheap, it plays cheap and it sounds cheap, but that's exactly what it is, a cheap kit. Like you said, golden rule to not go under 200 $ and if possible then i'd rather double it and go for sweet middle point with a lot of good possibilities. P.S. agree about Cort, they are pretty decent option
@fatroberto3012
@fatroberto3012 6 месяцев назад
It costs 80 euros! Most people buying a kit like that understand that they are making a guitar from scratch. They expect to put it the hours to make it into a playable instrument but they'd rather not waste 20 or 30 hours just to get a basic body and neck built from scratch. Buy a 300 euro Epiphone and you can expect to spend five hours making it playable!
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
Again, go back and read my pinned comment and look at point number two. Doesn’t matter who you think the target market is or who should be buying it. People are buying this thinking they’re getting a cheap playable guitar. They deserve to be warned.
@TAVMANIAN
@TAVMANIAN 6 месяцев назад
With so many low cost guitars that are nice enough building a cheap kit does not make sense if your goal is to save money. However, many just like the project aspect of building it and for some wanting to get luthier skills to eventually build their own guitars possibly from scratch it is a good starting point to get a kit (or a couple to see what type of guitars they want to build) and learn some basics. Even with the higher end kit builds it makes no sense to build $ wise. For instance I see PVX and for the neck and body of a PRS type build it was I think close to $500. This is a neck without dots or frets by the way. You can buy an actual PRS SE for around $700 so obviously it will cost way more $ to build the kit and be way more work. So even with a possible good kit there is no $ saving incentive. The only real draw is for those that like to tinker and build things and for those looking to be luthiers that want a platform to start learning on. It would be nice to see more feedback for these types of buyers.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 6 месяцев назад
Honestly I think the best way to start learning basic setup skills is doing setups on instruments that you already know can play well. This is not that. Trying to start on guitars with terrible fretwork, an awful nut, tuners that make tuning a chore, and a bridge that can never intonate right is just making life too difficult. In terms of general guitar building skills, how well does making IKEA furniture teach about carpentry? If someone is willing to make the investment in tools to learn how to do make nuts, do fret leveling, fret crowning, fret dressing and polishing, yes, it's cheaper than the lowest price neck Allparts necks that Thomann sell, which will be better quality wood but will need the same fret and nut work to play well.
@TAVMANIAN
@TAVMANIAN 6 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar maybe some want to learn about staining for certain looks and not basic setup? Can't start from a guitar already finished and get the same experience. Sure you can sand it down but it was already stained so not the same. Doesn't matter if the body is from IKEA for that. As long as the wood is decent and this is why the reviewers who talk about the wood more than components (likely swapped later) get it. Also some come with a square block for you to shape. There is lots to learn from these kits of you don't have things like planer, band saw, CNC and want to get started customizing shapes and looks with day even custom inlays. I like seeing some of the custom shapes, finishes and designs some do. Even wood carving work. Sure once you upgrade the hardware it is not a cheap deal, but that is not the point. Forget it though. I can see you just don't get why others might like these. You do you.
@andyholmes9485
@andyholmes9485 Год назад
Agree would never go there. Thanks for the vid.
@iosifsimon
@iosifsimon 3 месяца назад
I bought the strat and the tele kits. The Strat plays beautifully, very well setup out of the start, the pickups... I love the way they sound! A little noisy but hey... single coils... right? I acyually recorded this strat, and a fender player strat, and asked a bunch of guitarists, and there were some that like the sound of this one better than the fender tone. The tele, is even better! The wood indeed is soft, but there are fixes for. You're obviously not going to turn this into your best guitar ever, right? I use both for practice, instead of wearing down my very good guitars, and I am not disapointed of the sound they produce at all. Pots work fine, no electronic issues. Everything is ok on my guitars. They were so cheap that I thought if they will be ruined, I will turn them into interior design decoration. But I was pleasantly surprised.
@sciencesaves
@sciencesaves 2 месяца назад
it may need a compensated nut to fix the intonation
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 2 месяца назад
Sadly, no. A compensated nut will only affect the open strings. The bridge is the wrong place relative to the frets.
@sciencesaves
@sciencesaves 2 месяца назад
@@DrKevGuitar compensated nuts famously keep you in tune as you play frets along the neck, especially if you’re having out of tune frets down low on the neck. What do you mean they only affect open strings?
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 8 дней назад
@@sciencesaves No, on this point he's correct. Anything about the nut- whether it's compensation, height, the cut of the slots or the material - will have not impact on the note once a string is fretted.
@mrbesserwisser7447
@mrbesserwisser7447 4 месяца назад
Why do you hate HBs? You work for Fender?
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 4 месяца назад
1) Where in the video did I say I hate HB? Time stamp please. 2) No, I don't work for anyone, and Fender don't care about Harley Benton. As Josh Scott argued about Amazon brand pedals being good for the other pedal brands, It can be argued that HB are good for the other brands. How many people starts with a HB and say "maybe one day I'll own another HB", versus the number of people who say one "maybe one day I'll own a Fender/Gibson/PRS etc."?
@braylonmaverick2617
@braylonmaverick2617 4 месяца назад
And yet other guitar aficionados, luthiers, players have said that DIY guitar kits, and the instrument you ultimately end up building, are decent low-end guitars for playing (beginners or otherwise), and obviously are good for individuals who are interested in learning how to build guitars, possibly advancing in that area as well. Although your critical outlook on this particular Harley Benton should be respected, so should the other more positive opinions regarding DIY guitars. I assume that some of those opinions are sponsored by StewMac, Harley Benton, and others, but not all of the other opinions. I believe that most buyers of DIY guitar kits are aware that they may be problems with the product. Some may assume that there is a chance that it will be nothing but junk. In the end, that probably can be said about most products (although cheaper products give way to bigger chances, but then again, there are plenty of videos on RU-vid of Guitarist critical of high-end guitars). I do consider your opinion on this matter to be an informed opinion. Your expertise on this subject has to be respectfully recognized. I disagree with it (at least to some extent) because of my own experience with a StewMac T-Style body DIY guitar. It was pleasurable to build, and I ended up with a playable low-end guitar. Is it a $4,000.00 Tele? Obviously not, but it isn't a full piece of unplayable junk either. Anyway, I wish you continued success with your channel.
@wriglarzzz
@wriglarzzz 7 месяцев назад
Cortec or Cort started making Prs se line and the quality is a tremendous difference. Quality of paint and woods and pickups are way better from Cort
@robertredford4332
@robertredford4332 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for your nice words, and stopping me from buying this guitarrrrraaaaa
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 5 месяцев назад
It's not a guitar, it's the parts to build a guitar :) And an opportunity to learn how to do it. Obviously, that's not for everyone.
@leoburton642
@leoburton642 Месяц назад
I agree with @CANNIMAGINE, 100% This guy has no business posting such negativity, and discouraging comments. This doesn't just set a negative tone to these kits, but all. Guitar kits are not for learning to play on...they exist for learning to build on. Entry level. It's a kit...the work needed to make them playable, is the whole point of them being kits. Don't listen to this, individual, (to put it nicely),...If you wana learn to build..and all that's involved...any kit, is a great start. Build on....
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar Месяц назад
This individual (to put it nicely) presumably thinks beginners to the world of guitars should just spend their money uniformed and suck it up if they don't get an immediately playable guitar? Or, maybe informed people are better equipped to make good purchase decisions, and that's a good thing? Should I have lied about the real faults I found and/or pretended they didn't exist? Would you have been happier if my review was falsely positive to fit with your pre-existing expectations?
@leoburton642
@leoburton642 Месяц назад
You need to get over yourself there pal. You're completely missing the point of what a "KIT" is. They're what a person makes of them. And anyone else's opinion of them, could only be validated, if you're comparing guality of the parts,..not the finished build. That can only improve, as an individual, improves on their skills. Hence, what kits exist for.
@Quicksilver51
@Quicksilver51 7 месяцев назад
Seems to be a theme going on in your reviews? Maybe some sort of self-interest involved, sponsorship by Cort perhaps? Whatever the reason this scathing review is totally unwarranted. The point of kits is not having a PRS quality instrument at the end but the fun and sense of achievement in putting it all together. What do you want for 80 bucks or 70 pounds (I'm in UK)? Whatever you buy in kit form needs some sort of fettling and tweaking. You come across a little like my plumber who manages to find faults where there are none. Such a shame this attitude is spreading into musical culture.
@ryanthenormal
@ryanthenormal 7 месяцев назад
Nailed it. When you buy one of these kits, you aren't buying a guitar. You are buying the parts to have the experience of building a guitar and learning something along the way.
@MrGbh73
@MrGbh73 9 месяцев назад
Si alguien compra una guitarra en kit, la monta y la ajusta a su gusto y suena decente...no está patrocinado ni recibe dinero de ningun gran fabricante. La mejora a su gusto y la sube a otro nivel ¿Por qué iba a mentir?.
@stevew8971
@stevew8971 8 месяцев назад
"I think it's a Harley Benton kit".... First 15 seconds of this 'review'... Riddle me this sir, how can you accurately review a product whilst unsure of the manufacturer? Seems odd.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 8 месяцев назад
As I recall, that was a brief moment of long Covid confusion between Harley Benton and Thomann (yes, same company, but it’s not a Thomann brand guitar). It is always possible to do a thorough and fair review of any product without knowing the name of the manufacturer. In fact it would arguably be more objective if we could hide the name of the manufacturer and country of origin from people doing reviews, removing prior bias. Right?
@samwills9079
@samwills9079 4 месяца назад
good Lord, dude. I bet youre real fun at parties.
@Exit_343
@Exit_343 5 месяцев назад
Been playing $70 Kramer's my whole life. Sure this is an upgrade.
@christianiffland3729
@christianiffland3729 Месяц назад
I have built two HB kits. None of the problems you mention appeared.
@deanvolker8235
@deanvolker8235 6 месяцев назад
¿Did you really expect to have a real DIY for 100 bucks? In my opinion this kind of kits are thought for people who wants to learn about how to build an instrument. Otherwise, they would get a full geared guitar for the same price... even painted!!
@MrAntisound
@MrAntisound Месяц назад
What i don't understand is why you keep replying to people that this guitar is not for beginners, i think every beginner knows this.. These kits are for people who want to tinker, and don't want a expensive kit so they can experiment on it. that being said i play guitar for like 35 years, and i have owned many many guitars, including Gibson les Paul and USA Fenders and high end Ibanez guitars, and i do agree that a kit like this is not stellar, not even if you level and polish the frets, give it low action and intonate it properly, but it will play OK and light if you do that, and sound reasonable if you know what you're doing, i also fix and totally rework old broken guitars, and with some time i can make these kits into fine guitars. If you cannot, that only means that you're not skilled enough to make it play and sound OK. These modern kits are way better than most of the cheap guitars you bought back in the 70's. And saying that 3 hours of benchwork will net you 180 dollars of extra cost (cause that would cost it if you bring it to a guitar shop) is not the point of these kits. The point of these kits is to let people tinker and play around with building a guitar and slowly learn a bit how this is done. if you change the hardware on it after you finished up the wood decently you can make a pretty good guitar out of it, i can in about 10 hours of work make it into a beauty that plays well. So i think that making a vid about this is more for yourself to get content on youtube and earn some ads revenue, than to informatively educate people about the true purpose of these cheap guitar kits..They're not ment for beginners that want to have a cheap guitar, cause you can buy a cheap guitar for 75 dollar from Fazley or Harley Benton, that only needs setup that can be done in a guitar shop for 50 dollars and than you have a reasonably cheap and reasonably playing guitar. It's also pretty obvious that if you're going to be negative about these cheap kits, that you are going to be overloaded with comments that feel negative to you, cause many people do understand the true purpose of these kits, and they are going to be annoyed by your opinion. So this "They deserve to be informed and warned of the reality of these kits" comment is completely wrong, and that is not a opinion, it's a fact, it is merely your opinion, and probably based on your lack of tinker skills. The fact that you broke the tuners screws in the headstock underscribes this, you need to pre-drill the holes, the fact that they broke is a good sign, it means the wood they used is hard and strong, as it needs to be for a neck. And the screws are only ment to keep the tuners from turning, so you don't need to screw them in very tight. It all makes sense to me that you're not very technical.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar Месяц назад
Well, there is an unnecessarily long comment. Three responses: 1) I’m a very small RU-vid channel and since that video came out I have made €18 in revenue from it. Money is not a goal. 2) insisting that I’m wrong to want to inform uninformed people is insanely ridiculous. 3) 25 years professional experience as a guitarist and guitar tech and I was guitar tech for one of the largest music stores in Europe. There’s no problem with my technical skills. If you really want to bend over backwards to convince yourself that there’s something wrong with me, I’m sure you can fit in a full thousand word comment on somebody else’s channel.
@michaelnielsen7406
@michaelnielsen7406 6 месяцев назад
In general I don´t agree.!! There might be some cheap and bad DIY kits out there, but I have build 7 guitars from kits, and only 1 is below standard, all the others have a reasonable good tone and no problems with intonation and playability. I am specially fond of a Jazzmaster copy from Thomann. 4 of my guitar kits (telecaster, Les Paul, Jazzmaster, Fender jazz bass copies) comes from Thomann, one from Fretwire (a hollow body Gibson ES 175 copy), one from a Chinese manufacturer and one from Stewmac (a Martin D18 copy, very high quality) You can actually hear and see how I build them on my youtube videos (Michael Nielsen)
@TAVMANIAN
@TAVMANIAN 6 месяцев назад
I will look at your videos. You are right on with what people (almost all really lets be honest) building kits are looking for as feedback. I know a luthier who built the Stew Mac 335 just to try it and he said for a kit it was pretty good. Not into hollow body guitars so still looking and thinking of starting with the HB DC since seems simple enough to get started and if not that good quality wise no issues since not that much. Thanks for the feedback and look forward to watching your stuff.
@MaxPower-js1sk
@MaxPower-js1sk Год назад
My tuners cost $180, and I was okay with that.
@groseromedia
@groseromedia 6 месяцев назад
Lol
@max.lajauskas
@max.lajauskas 4 месяца назад
No diss but this here is a rant not a review. Is this deadpan satire? Because this can go down nice as satire if you play it up just a notch more
@larsheydecke887
@larsheydecke887 4 месяца назад
Ok say just like another person here I do own not only one but several Harley benton guitars They are all exelent If you buy a guitar kit you have to have some experience to do it your self things And there is no beter way learning your way around guitars You dont just slapp it together and expert things is going to work There is a bit of mesuring involvera wen mounting a beige
@winnetouch
@winnetouch 5 месяцев назад
That last piece of advice is rubbish. Not spending less then 200 bucks I mean... These kits are hit and miss but HB makes some awesome prebuilt cheap guitars for less then 200 bucks. Our lead guitarist that's been playing and recording for over 20 years, primarily uses a HB Telecaster that he bought new for 150 eur. He prefers it to his entire other collection of guitars (Solar, Jackson, Squire, etc). Does the guitar have issues. Sure... Can they be fixed easily at home with a little bit of knowhow that any guitarist should have? Absolutely! So yeah... Todays manufacturing standards have change A LOT and cheap guitars aren't necessarily unplayable anymore. You just need to have a little bit of knowledge and know what to buy. That being said, not every cheap guitar is playable, I'm not that ignorant.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 5 месяцев назад
So your saying your guitarist's HB tele disproves my advice based on experience with many thousands of instruments? Does that sound reasonable to you?
@winnetouch
@winnetouch 5 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar What sounds reasonable to me is that you don't cherry pick one of my sentences and maybe try interpreting it in the context of my entire statement. I gave just one example. This is the RU-vid comment section not the youtube Blogging community. The proof is in the experience of hundreds of others on youtube. Harley Benton makes cheap guitars of reasonable quality if you know what to buy.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 5 месяцев назад
@@winnetouch "...if you know what to buy"? Most people buying cheap instruments are beginners with zero knowledge, which is absolutely normal. They do not know what to buy or not to buy, they don't know the potential issues and pitfalls, they do not know how to do basic guitar setup or change strings which always takes time and experience to learn, nor do they have the tools necessary to fix the bigger issues that are never dealt with in factories producing low cost instruments. This is the bigger picture you're not seeing. My advice is based on two decades of experience with literally thousands of instruments and hundreds of beginning guitar players. If you want to respectfully disagree, fine. But I won't let you rubbish my experience and knowledge that you don't have. I know you think you are being helpful, I get that, we both want to be helpful. But reality is not reflected in the almost exclusively positive review space that RU-vid presents and a majority of buyers of the cheapest instruments they will not have that positive experience.
@winnetouch
@winnetouch 5 месяцев назад
@@DrKevGuitar Dude I get it, but the point of your video was not "beginners shouldn't buy cheap guitars", what I took from it was "Don't buy cheap guitars period". And off course beginners will not know what to buy that was never my assumption, but we have internet nowadays. Information was never so easily available as it is today. I would assume you would understand that, hence your video in the first place. There are hundreds of channels dedicated solely for reviewing cheap gear and you are telling me 20 years of your experience negates EVERY analysis and review by people with just as much or even more experience? I never buy anything today before looking it up online, why should a guitar be any different? You reviewed this hunk of junk and found out it's crap. Good! That's the point. Also... You are taking this way to personally. No one was shit talking your experience, or at least I wasn't. What I see from the way you communicate is not experience but ego. "I can't be wrong because I have 2 decades of experience". You also just assumed I don't have experience. Why? Because I disagree with you? I realise I'm just some rando on the internet, but you can't just assume something because it suits your point.
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 5 месяцев назад
@@winnetouch Why did I assume you have no experience? Because rather than talk from a position of your own expertise you talked about an experience of your lead guitar player. And there is no shame in that, everyone starts from zero knowledge and works up in everything. But rather than say "maybe I'm wrong on this and this person with lots of expertise might have a point", you dig in. And yes, I'm pushing back on that. As should you too if ever some rando on the internet who appears to have no expertise says your advice based on two decades of expertise is "rubbish". I wish you peace and happiness and great music. So long and good luck.
@JoshuaBaker-eg6sm
@JoshuaBaker-eg6sm 25 дней назад
Ur full of it i took a donner upgraded everything all together the total was 500 dollars and it sounds better then a 800 dollar fender soo i disagree with everything ur saying this video waste of my time
@DrKevGuitar
@DrKevGuitar 25 дней назад
You have no idea how silly you sound, or why, do you? But thanks for the comment. Enjoy your Sunday.
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