Harry Potter is JUST Star Wars | Harry Potter Film Theory 

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It's the Hero's Journey formula. Many fictional works and epics follow this same pattern.

What I find especially interesting is that Hagrid and Chewbacca are my favorite characters in the two franchises and they're very similar: two gigantic hairy monsters with hearts of gold. Rest in peace to both Robbie Coltrane and Peter Mayhew.

one of my favorite topics! I studied this back in college, all of the "quest" literature (LOtR, SW, Wizard of Oz, Arthurian Legends ,and all of the more modern iterations you mentioned) can't help but use these archetypes. They are hard-wired into our subconscious. And they even have roots in the Bible, but go back even further than that. I just love this stuff. Thanks for getting to this!

Harry Potter all day every day! lol I commented this on a Through the Griffin Door video and people seemed interested, “What if Sirius Black lived in Dumbledore’s office during Goblet (instead of in the cave) and became a doggo (who mysteriously hated Snape) whenever Dumbledore had visitors.” This way he can be close to Harry and be in a warm and safe place with access to proper food. And Dumbledore keeping a “pet” that for some reason totally hates Snape is peak Dumbledore humor. 😂

This is the most extensive list of similarities between Star Wars and Harry Potter I've ever seen. I'm even more amazed at the similarities.

The reason in the re-edits Anakin comes back as a younger version of himself is due to himself joining the Dark Side. His Force Ghost is a image of the very last time he was on the Light Side. You could argue that he came back to the Light Side shortly before he died, yet his body was a mess. No legs, only like one arm, he took the form of the last time he was on the Light Side & had a body.

It’s the hero’s journey at it’s finest. And other similarities. There’s a reason Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Harry Potter have all dominated my passion/focus a lot throughout my 25 years of life.

Literary experts say there are only six stories, and all books are based on those six basic narratives.

You let Vernon get away with insulting Dumbledore 😂 Seriously though i love how hagrid just goes 0-60 and back 'I'll smite you muggle man.. happy birthday Harry!"

My favorite thing even as the video is starting, is remembering that Harry has literally said “I’m never going over to the dark side.”

I think an interesting parallel is that both Luke and Harry are tempted but frightened of the darkness the resides in them. Luke being the son of darth vader and Harry having a bit of Voldemort in him.

Percy Jackson is also almost the same story. I would love to see some percy content on your channel with the new show out 🌊

I remember being 8/9, reading the 2nd/3rd book and calling that Ron and Hermione would end up together since they always argued, just like Han Solo and Princess Leah

They have similar plots but that's it. The way it's told and executed are different.

⚡ Also, I'm realizing (by watching the new Disney+ show) that Percy Jackson is A LOT like HP, too . . . Ya know, the 3 friends go on a "quest" together . . . Two of them will end up together in the end . . . & Percy even has a magical sword that to kill monsters with!! 😃

Percy Jackson is another example of a hero's journey. A fandom I still think you need to add to the channel, especially now that the show is out.

Ron loves Wizards chess and there’s a Holochess setup on the Millennium Falcon.

It's not that Harry Potter is like Star Wars, it's that both are like LotR.

This is a wildly interesting theory and it fits too well. Also what do you think of the theory Ron would have been in Slytherin had he not immediately been placed in Gryffindor because he was a Weasley. He seeks power, wants glory, is mean and crude. He embodies Slytherin so well compared go Gryffindor.

Great breakdown, I'm glad you brought it to Campbell, rather than just leaving it as a comparison on its own. Another one that I thought paralleled Star Wars even more is the Inheritance Cycle (Eragon). You take all of the Hero of a Thousand faces beats you pointed out here, and add things like the ancient order of special protectors with special weapons that everyone thought was destroyed by a former member of the order who turns out to be the main characters father. Also, the old hermit who finds the hero was hiding nearby, and a secret survivor of that order, even though they were all hunted down and killed by the evil empire, and then you find out that theres *another* secret hidden survivor who gets to continue the training. Its pretty wild lol

My theory is that Dobby and other house elves are a distant descendant from the same species as Yoda.

I have the same thought, except with A Series of Unfortunate Events. However with ASOUE, the connections are a lot less similar. The protagonist(s) is/are orphan(s) who's late parents were rich and part of a secret world the children have no idea about. (also Harry and Klaus both wear glasses) They're being hunted by an evil man (who's an orphan themself) who killed their parents. They start their journey with a family who aren't the nicest (Dursleys/Poes) The three main protagonists each share similarities, Harry and Violet are brave, selfless and resourceful, Hermione and Klaus are intelligent and quick learners, and Ron and Sunny are smarter than others expect, loyal and hard working. By the end of the first book, the villain almost succeeds, but fails due to the main power they oppose (Love/Law). The second book in both series basically mean the same, The Chamber of Secrets and The Reptile Room. The main villain isn't a major threat until past halfway through the series. In both series, just after the villain gains power, the protagonist(s) are painted as liars and defiled by the government. There's a small plot point involving unknown initials (RAB/JS) The villain gains a female crony who's in love with them (Bellatrix/Esmé) For a short period the villain changes their goal to search for an artifact(The Prophecy/Sugar Bowl) In book Near the end of the last book, the protagonist(s) are close to death, but don't completely die. The villain is killed due to a weapon they own(Elder Wand/Harpoon Gun) Both series are made up of an unlucky number of books. 3 is also a very common number in both series. One last thing I noticed is that two of the House mascots play major roles in a ASOUE book. Snakes are a big part of The Reptile Room, and Lions are a big part of The Carnivorous Carnival. I should mention Crows are a common symbol of intelligence and play a big role in The Vile Village, but Ravenclaw's mascot is an eagle.

I was thinking of Han Weasley immediately, but Ron Solo cannot be denied. Also figured out the inevitable Hero's Journey tropes would be mentioned and though the Original Trilogy was referenced they not only did the HJ three times theatrically they've done it multiple times through the various shows, games and what have you. So maybe in the future the Hero's Journey will be called "Star Wars Yet Again." I'm not even sure I'm joking about this, it sounds a little too plausible.

It’s also Avatar the last Airbender! 4 houses = 4 elements 100 years in ice = 10 years with the Dursleys Azula=Bellatrix Roku = Dumbledore Ozai = Voldy Zuko = Malfoy with a full redemption arc. Avatar is basically the deathly hallows, 3 kid fugitives on the run figuring out how to end a war and destroy the big bad. Even Ba Sing Se is the ministry…. I could go ON!!!

Vader is definitely not Mouldywarts. 2:27 Tom Riddle is a horror inducing sociopath at age eleven and isn't even shown a path to redemption.

DID YOU PUT YOUR LIGHTSABER IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE! Obi-Wan asked calmly

One key difference is Owen and Beru loved Luke and didn’t mistreat him, plus Luke grew up as an only child. Harry grew up with another kid the same age, with an aunt and uncle who constantly mistreated him. It is interesting how, where Luke has Han and Leia, Harry has Ron and Hermione

I'm just imaging dobby in an x-wing saying DOBBY IS FREE as the death star explodes

A 7 ft tall Chewbacca drops off a baby at your doorstep rings the bell and drives off on a motorcycle 😂

8:23-8:32 great editing. Now that's comedic timing and I love it

The stories are similar because they follow the *Hero's Journey.* What you described is exactly the Hero's Journey. I've never heard it called the Hero of a thousand faces before this.

The the next big thing is the Horizon games. It literally has all of this: Protagonist grows up in a hostile society with a father figure who actually is nice to her but she grows up an outcast for no apparent reason because she had no parents. Then she is attacked by an evil group and finds out she’s basically the chosen one who can rebuild Gaia and destroy Hades (The thing that is controlling the evil people) And, like Star Wars and Harry Potter, the games are amazing!

J I have a guess on what the "next big thing" will be(since we established a 20 year pattern). It is none other than Percy Jackson and the Olympians!!!

Curious. Even taking this to another level we could all say many wizards are legacies of Hecate (Percy Jackson) , besides some things you mention joining all three franchises

Both franchises also have some kind of mysterious power that not everyone can use and special items that are commonly only used by the people who can use these mysterious powers

The thing about anakins force ghost is that you answered your question. He came back as anakin before vadar

Star Wars and Harry Potter are two of my obsessions. They’re even both the namesakes of my youngest child (Alastor Luke). I can’t believe I’ve never noticed the similarities!! 😂 Edited to add that my favorite comparison I’ve ever seen is Luke Skywalker and Jamie Lannister. It’s pretty hilarious actually

Aaaand you can add Eragon to the list of the thousand faces heroes. x) Seriously : a young guy who lives at his huncles in a normal life gets into adventures and being taught stuff by an older man. You can put all of them (Harry, Frodo, Luke, Eragon and others) in this sentence. And still it always makes complete different stories but with the same pattern. For the "Vader" character from Harry Potter, the one who fell because of love, i would say it's Snape. He didn't exactly fell because of his love (that he lost after his fall), but more because this love wasn't reciproqual and was the only thing that still linked him to the good side. So when he had a quarrel with Lily and their friendship ended, the good part he still had inside him died. Well, in a certain point of view.

I do enjoy looking like Ewan McGregor. Also, it's no surprise Luke so heavily follows the Hero's Journey. George Lucas was friends with Campbell and when he created Star Wars, he did so because he wanted to test if you could still create a modern myth using the same formula for ancient myths. He created Star Wars and suffice to say, he was proven right.

I found Harry Potter first but delve much much more deeply into Star Wars before I did the same with Harry Potter, but I’ll always love both immensely and I really can’t compare them or say I like one more than the other because both universes are so dear to me

Dont forget that both Dumbledore and yoda give advice from beyond death😂

Love your deep dives into Harry Potter. Have you ever checked out Percy Jackson? I suggest a read through, I think it's right up your alleys (or could be)🖖😎👍

4:05 there is a big massive difference between Lying thru Omission (Obi-Wan) and Not Knowing exactly what Happened (Hagrid), How many books did it take to finally reveal what happened that night versus Obi-Wan later saying "Well technically I was telling you the truth". Also, if you try hard enough you can take any 2 random stories and find their similarities. Remember when Toy Story and The Walking Dead are the same story was trending a few years ago?

Some people have referred to Jedi, Sith, and other Force-users as “Space Wizards.” Also, Voldemort is the HP equivalent to Palpatine, including both of them cheating death (granted one of thrm admits to actually dying, but still coming back). “I was ripped from my body, I was less than spirit, less than the meanest ghost, but still I was alive.” ~Lord Voldemort “To cheat death is a power only one has achieved.” ~Sheev Palpatine “I have died before.” ~Sheev Palpatine

I was waiting to hear you mention Joseph Campbell. My dad taught me about this when I was young, and now I see it everywhere.

Ron Solo sounds so much better then Han Weasley. But they're names rhyme so it fits anyway lol

Han Weasly is my favorite Harry Wars character! Obviously. Also, the outro music is tear-jerking.

Picture Ron Solo and his pet Scabbacca shooting Greedo Malfoy and then escaping Jabba the Umbridge with Larry Skypotty in the Millennium Nimbus, with Luna-3PO, R2Dobby, and Obi-Wan Kadumbledore.

Hey, Brothers! As I was listening to CoS a couple weeks ago, I noticed Dumbeldore is described as "X-raying" Harry in his office after the attack on Nick and Justin. It's also implied in SS that Dumbledore can see Harry through the invisibility cloak. Lastly, the amount of times that Dumbledore's intense blue eyes are described is quite suspicious, especially considering the rarity of having rad hair and blue eyes (.17 percent of the population according to a quick search). This all leads me to my theory: Dumbeldore created the magical eye for Moody, and maybe even has one himself. Sorry if this is already established but everything I read said that the origins of Moody's eye were unmentioned. The fact that it is often described as "lightning blue" just as intense as Dumbeldores eyes are always described leads me to draw some connection. Perhaps Dumbeldore himself has one of these creations in his own eye socket? Moody's eye has very similar powers mentioned with his eye such as seeing through Harry's invisibility cloak after Crouch steals from Snape's storage and borrows the map, seeing through structures and cabinets in Grimmauld Place (the boggart). I'd love to see a video or a mention in the one of the podcasts on your thoughts! Keep up the great content, Brothers!

I saw someone do this idea a week or two ago with a RU-vid short. It is crazy after you compare them.

This idea has been studied extensively in literature. It formed the basis of Kurt Vonnegut's university thesis, and is the subject of Christopher Booker's "The seven basic plots." We as humans tell the same stories over and over, just from slightly new angles or different characters.

You had me at “Ron shot first” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 5:21

When I saw that they remade the ending of Return of the Jedi after Revenge of the SIth, and saw the young force ghost of Anakin, I was really disappointed. Not that it was done, but at the missed opportunity. I think they should have started it with old Anakin, then had Anakin and Obi-wan look at each other, morphing to their younger selves in the as they moved, then back to their older selves as they turn back to Luke. So they see each other at the age they knew their friends best.

John Williams when he wrote the Score for HP: wait... This is just Star Wars 😂

-What if James Potter Survived? (I personally have written this one myself, inspired from you guys) - what if Sirius did got the dementors kiss (Or) - what if Sirius never escaped azkaban - what if voldemort knew the prophecy -what if voldemort was RAISED WITH LOVE

I’d say that Darth Vader is also partially Snape. Both Snape and Vader were initially good people who got corrupted, and who ultimately are realized as good guys in the end by the protagonist. Both also have surprises in store for the protagonist: “I’m your father.” and “I’m the half-blood Prince.” Both Snape and Vader were in love with their respective story’s protagonist’s mother.

I wish you guys would cover the Percy Jackson tv show!

I just started the video, but that's because they both are very attached to Campbell's Heroes Journey. Star Wars is actually used as the prime example of the Heroes Journey in schools now a days

I think a closer parallel to Staw Wars would be the Inheritance Cycle. Evil Empire ✅️ Uncle and aunt dead✅️ Mentor character dies in the first installment of the series✅️ Secret father character✅️ Magic mcguffin passed down from father to son (being force sensitive and being a Rider)✅️ Secret sibling plot✅️ And so much more in common.

Lord of the Rings has this with Frodo Baggins. He is also called by a bearded man. The bearded man in Lord of the Rings is Gandalf. Sauron is also like Voldemort.

loved the video but ive never heard of the "hero of a thousand faces" i know of "the hero's journey" as it is applied in story writing. it is the template stories are written by using. i was hoping to hear that referenced but it is what the book is based on anyway.

The mentor (Obiwan and Sirius) of both heroes sacrifices themself to allow the hero and their allies to escape. There is a perceived threat and enemy dressed in black (Darth Vader and Snape) that in the end are redeemed by revealing their true soul within. Both heroes are guided along their path and seek comfort in the companionship of the souls of departed magical mentors. And… During the final battle, creatures of the forest become unlikely allies to overcome the evil empire. While the similarities could continue. I think that goes a bit beyond being due to The Hero of a Thousand Faces. Don’t forget that this is also the story of much of Star Trek (and more importantly Galaxy Quest), Hitchhiker’s Guide, Blazing Saddles, pretty much every Marvel movie, comic book, etc. There are more hero stories that follow this mold than do not.

Hero's Journey/ the Hero with. Thousand Faces by Joseph Campbell. You can find 1000s of other stories (book, movies, plays, poems, epics, etc) that follow the same formula.

I feel like a really great story that has A Hero of a Thousand Faces is Kingdom Hearts....Like when you actually sit there and think about Kingdom and everything Sora, Ventus, and Roxas have all went through (including the playable character from the mobile games), you realize that KH is just A Hero with a Thousand Faces done several times with different elements added into it. Like the amount of times Sora's died and come back is baffling.

Not to forget especialy Spiderman. Also grows up with his uncle and aunt. And i realy love the idea, that Petuina would be more like May if Vernon had been killed. And of cours the golden trio Peter, Mary Jane and Harry. Okay Harry Osborn is kind of Ron and Draco at the same time. And Norman is like if Lucius had the same skills as Snape. Would also have been interesting seeing Lucius fighing Voldemort.

I grew up with both Harry Potter and Star Wars and they both have a special place in my heart

I guess that means jar Jar Binks is Umbridge because they’re both the most hated characters

I was rewatching lord of the rings and i felt there were some similarities between lord of the rings and harry potter with destroying evil objects of power and powerful charismatic wizards helping save the day

A lot of these elements are in the Epics of Gilgamesh, which is a story thousands of years old. Being a being of a particular time frame, we get to enjoy and be inspired by a particular version of the story, usually in our pre-teen - Early adulthood. After receiving such a story, the older ones seem dated and antiquated, then the newer ones seem derivative, and put too much of pop culture in them.

Ah, the Hero's journey! Galavant also does this. They make fun of it, too, but that's not the point

I knew we'd be reaching Joseph Campbell! My writer friends and I normally just call the template "The Hero's Journey" as short hand instead of the entire book title: "The Hero with A Thousand Faces."

I know there's a RU-vidr that done the Harry Potter Star Wars crossover fanfic but I always find it fascinating to see the world collide

Hey Brother! A couple weeks ago I finally saw the Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes in theaters and I thought it was great. I was glad to see the map although I didn’t think much of it until I saw your review. I looked it up and of course there is now an official canon map, compared to the current United States. My job for you, is to use geography and theories and stuff to find out once and for all when the Hunger Games take place. It may be tricky but the entire fandom is counting on you. And may the odds be ever in your favor!

There are also some similarities in the soundtrack of the movies. The Jedi theme from Star Wars is not unlike the main theme / Hedwig's theme from Harry Potter. Yes, I know they're both composed by John Williams, but he made many more movie scores and none of them sound so similar as these imo.

For what its worth, I think (in-universe anyway) that Anakin's force ghost was his younger self because it was before he truly "died" becoming Vader. Back when he was a pure and good Jedi. Out-of-universe, it was obviously because of the prequels and Lucas wanted to nod to them.

Could you imagine if you revealed to someone that you were their long lost parent only to have them completely dismiss that idea to your face

To be fair! Epic Rap Battles of History pointed this out in their Luke Skywalker vs Harry Potter rap battle: Luke: Your origin story is mostly stolen from me! You might be Potter, but Harry, I planted your seed! Let's see: little orphan raised by relatives in solitude Suddenly gets taken under wing of funky wizard dude Learns that he's been destined to have powerful gifts

3:21 this is hilarious as you could take it as meaning Dobby is Harry's sibling

I don’t remember a lot of what I learned in college, but I do remember that there’s no such thing as a “new” story. After a few thousand years we have run out of ideas.

Imagine if Book 5 revealed that Lord Voldemort was actually James Potter, that Harry's father was still alive. Voldemort wasn't actually trying to kill his son, he wanted to recruit him to be his apprentice. It is funny that there are some superficial commonalities between the narratives though. Probably mosty has to do with both being very close to the typical "Hero's Journey" arc that forms the basis for almost all narratives about heroic individuals. There are only like 6 different kinds of stories we can tell anyway too. All we can really do is tell variations of the same stories, and no matter how original a story may seem to you, it's going to have a lot of similarities to other stories that have alredy been told.

Even "Epic Rap Battles Of History" mentioned how much Luke and Harry have in common.

I've always noticed the HP/LOTR connections, but I didn't realize how many connections there are with HP and SW.

I hadn't heard of the hero with a thousand faces, but I was thinking halfway through this that it was really just that they both subscribe to common tropes in their genre. What I think is more interesting is the way Anakin Skywalker is a something of a tragic-hero in a way that Voldemort is not. For this though I think you have to consider Anakin and Darth Vader as one and the same. Here, Anakin is raised up with the hopes of a hero, demonstrates greatness, succumbs to evil, but is redeemed through his death at the end. This is why many people have compared him to Othello. This being central to the story of Star Wars, I think, holds it out as being different to Harry Potter, despite the number of similarities. I also think that to separate Anakin from Vader robs the potential power of his redemption and the layers of character development, which again is something Voldemort does not really have. I sound like I'm defending Star Wars against Harry Potter here, when actually I much prefer Harry Potter, I just think the difference I've highlighted here is substantive to the story. Now I'm not a steeped in Star Wars lore(law?) as I am HP as I've only ever watched the films so perhaps there are things I'm missing from other parts of the Star Wars universe that might affect what I've typed here.

guys, there is some background audio artifact during the scenes filmed in the studio, like wind in the microphone or something. i couldn't finish watching this release because of it.

yes in broad strokes they are similar, ie hero's journey stories, but luke never makes 2 friends who help him defeat a series of 4 challenges to discover the phillosopers stone, and harry isnt an ace pilot who rescues a princess and destroys a mega structure. and thats just book 1

Ron Solo for the win?

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lol Not only would "Ron Solo" shoot first, everyone would know because he'd brag about what a good shot it was lol

Ron Solo is my favourite.

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Your videos never cease to amaze me! I always get so excited when I see you posted another video! :)

Us humans only tell seven different stories (see Joseph Campbell as referenced). We watched, "O Brother Where Art Thou" yesterday, which is a modern retelling of, "The Odyssey" which is the same story as Harry Potter and Star Wars.

I remember studying the Hero's Journey in Literature class in high school. Star Wars was used as a classic example. Actually, the Legend of Zelda is a pretty good example too. I remember specifically using Wind Waker as an example. I think we used the Hobbit as an example as well.

3:22 thought that was my smoke detector hahahha

Why didn't Dobby appear in the forbidden forest. When Harry had the resurecction stone and His family, Lupin and Sirius appears. And if he would what would it been like?

"Little orphan raised by relatives in solitude Suddenly gets taken under wing of funky wizard dude Learns that he's been destined to have powerful gifts But between the two of us I think I got the cooler stick!" - Luke Skywalker to Harry Potter - Epic Rap Battles of History -

Ron, you're the expert at wizard's chess. What's our next move? harry.. harry! What Ron? Let the achromantula win.

man, Aragogs spidery face gets me every time 😣

9:29 I also don’t buy in between Obi Wan Kenobi and episode 4 that Obi Wan aged into an old man in just ten years!🧐