The best plot for me would be... 'Is this true that you shouted at Professor Umbridge?' 'Yes', said Harry 'You called her a liar' 'Yes' 'You told her he who must not be named is back' 'Yes' Professor McGonagall sat downbehind her desk, frowning at Harry. Then she said, 'Have a biscuit, Potter'
No, this guy is actually on the right track! Voldemort knew his mother's protection wouldn't allow him to harm Harry as long as he lived with a blood relative (which he couldn't find because they blended in with everybody else in the entire city, you wouldn't even know he was there) and so instead of spending the time to track her down and have his servants kill her, only then to recreate a body with blood he didn't have, he used the blood of the one protected, counteracting the protection and thus allowing him to kill Harry and fulfill the prophecy. Voldemort's inability to understand love may have been his biggest flaw, but you have to admit he was incredibly smart when it came to gaining as much power over anybody as he could.
It's not. Whether it's canon or not, depends on how we perceive it. Rowling said that it should be considered, let me repeat, CONSIDERED canon. Normal readers may think it's canon, but Potterheads will be like,'Hell no! It's garbage'
You’re right, for some reason people don’t really talk about the plot twists in Harry Potter which is interesting because the mystery element of the series is so prevalent in every single book.
I think it’s because the stories are so engrained in our brains and pop culture as a whole. Everyone knows the plot twist so well that they seam like a normal part of the books. For example, Sirius is and has always been good in my mind, but that obviously wasn’t true at some point.
I actually was expecting the n°1 plot twist to be that Dumbledore had a plan that Harry would die so Voldemort's looming threat would be over and Snape was SHOCKED.
, but Dumbledore knew he would survive because of Lily's protection living inside Voldemort. And I love the foreshadowing all the way back to GoF when it is Voldy drinks his blood. The glimmer of triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. Although that is all part of Harry being a horcrux, so it was 1°
yeah i also thought the number 1 was that dumbledore already knew they were gonna win against voldemort the minute he learned voldemort used his blood on him
The whole plot twist with Dubledores backstory was a shock for me. Frist that his father killed muggles and he wanted to rule muggles himself and then the plot twist what turley happned.
@@gamerx3071 no it wasn’t sexual assault. One time Ariana was caught expressing her magic so then the muggles went to attack her until Percival arrived and retaliated so ever since the attack after he got arrested, Ariana gradually transformed into an obscurus with Aberforth left to look after her while Albus was off winning achievements pretty much
I did like how in the book Dumbledore protected her. How awful would it be for such an outstanding family like the Weasley's to turn out to be muggle borne haters. I'm sur you'll see that no other possessions of Voldermorts come to my school (paraphrasing yet essentially Dumbledore knew it was his lol)
I'll never forget first learning that Harry was a Horcrux. That had to be the first moment my heart genuinely sank. To learn that he had a piece of Voldemort's soul inside him would be like learning that your father, who you believed to have been killed, was really the villain you've been fighting the entire time. And James being a bully is a huge one for me. Snape's unflattering words, even when James saved him, could always be chalked up to his own bias, since people can say bad things about someone else no matter what. So to see him truly be a bully, backing up what Snape told Harry, was devastating.
I was in high school when these came out, and I read the first book. I knew from the first chapter that Harry had a bit of Voldemort in him. The disappearance of V and the scar on H was all I needed.
@@keriezy how does any of that indicate that there's a piece of Voldemort in Harry? At that point you know nothing of horcruxes or even Harry's parseltongue. You don't know about the fact that you can store parts of your soul externally at that point of the story, so if Voldemort supposedly died, you'd expect that to be the end of him.
I didn't know anything about horcruxes, but Dumbledore in the 2nd book literally said some of Voldemort's powers were transfered to Harry that night. Naturally, I assumed Harry had a part of Voldemort inside him. Just didn't know what that really meant.
I reckon both Lupin and Tonks dying was a twist... you'd think 'Oh! they have plot armor, they'd just had a son!' but no. Also Molly killing Bellatrix was pretty shocking, this kind motherly lady just beating the shit out of one of the biggest villains.
@@matiasvahervuori876 exactly, Bellatrix had just tried to attack her daughter right in front of her... "oh you bitch, I am a mother of 6 bloody wizards, and now I'm angry, dealing with you will be easy asf"
now i dont isagree... BUT if fudge tought us anything iit is that you dont have to have massive knowledge or logic for that job we all could get that job if we wanted 🤣
For me it’s that Dumbledore plotted with Grindlewald to control the muggles “for the greater good”. It also helps to explain why he puts so much trust in Snape despite his past ambitions.
When I was a little kid, the Quirell plot twist hit me so hard when I read it. My family had all read the book so I started reading it over the pandemic. (I was like 6). I was really enjoying it, but one night my brother came into my room and told me we were going to watch the first movie. I was upset because I hadn’t finished the first book, so I ran into the living room and immediately started reading. I was on the chapter “through the trapdoor.” My family was watching the movie while I was still finishing the book, and I was really rushing through it so I could get the to end and watch the movie. But then, I reached the “it wasn’t snape. It wasn’t even Voldemort.” I eagerly turned the page and read “it was quirell” I was totally shocked and reread it like ten times. Even to this day, that’s my favorite hp plot twist. 😅❤
A few others: 1. Harry is a wizard and his parents were murdered. Kind of not small. 2. Voldemort taking Harry's blood actually saved Harry. 3. The Snitch contains the Resurrection Stone. 4. Harry has actually seen and handled the Lost Diadem and that well-hidden memory helps him find it. (Not as big because the Diadem had only just been introduced but still really nice) 5. Harry's invisibility cloak is a Deathly Hallow and Ignotus Peverell is his ancestor. 6. Xenophilius Lovegood has been co-opted by the Death-Eaters and is trying to trade Harry's life for his daughter. 7. James and Sirius were animagi. 8. There's a horcrux in Bellatrix's vault. 9. Saying Voldemorts name is actually, suddenly, life-threatening. 10. Moaning Myrtle holds the Secret to the Chamber.
What about Wolfy McWolfenson? Remus Lupin is at least subtle enough the average child isn't likely to get the reference immediately unless they are specifically into Roman Mythology(and the story of Romulus and Remus is one of the bits that isn't a rip off of Greek Mythology, so it kind of has to be Roman specifically) or being into animals enough to learn scientific names. Heck, I'm pretty sure I learned of the mythical Remus because of Harry potter and really couldn't tell you anything about Romulus and Remus beyond wolves being involved and them being the Mythical founders of Rome... ON a similar note, I wouldn't really expect a child to recognize that so many of the Blacks are named for celestial bodies unless they were a total astronomy nerd. The series has tons of meaningful names, but I'd say most of them are more Easter Eggs than hints the average reader is likely to notice on a first read.
@@JefferyWright-mo4tfI'm Romanian, so a wolf is called "lup". In Italian, it's "lupo". In French, it's "loup". You don't need to know scientific names to make the connection. I read the books in English, but I still thought "Lupin" was a little weird for a character that fears a white ball and is often sick.
Admittedly, I was thinking from the perspective of an English monoglot. Naturally, it's going to be far more obvious to a native speaker of a romance language. Similarly, Malfoy and Voldemort might as well be totally made up names to English speaking ears(at least for us yanks, perhaps being right across the channel and a long history of rivalry means the typical Brit knows at least a little French), but are probably obvious in their meanings to a native speaker of French and possibly native speakers of other Romance languages. Or for a non-Harry Potter example, many Japanese names are just common Japanese words whose meanings would be obvious to a native Japanese speaker, but I wouldn't expect an American child stumbling upon their first anime dub that lets ethnically Japanese characters keep their original names to know what they mean, not even the ones nearly every anime fan in the Anglosphere has learned.
Some of my favorite plot twists are the prophecy almost being about Neville which made his role in the fifth book even bigger, Rita Skeeter being an illegal animagus, and Harry being a horcrux. Ron’s rat being the man who betrayed Harry’s parents is also incredible.
What about when we find out that Sirius is Harry Potter’s Godfather. I guess you can equate that to them being the Marauders but initially reading that the “mass murdered” who has escaped from Azkaban is Harry’s Godfather was astounding.
I remember when I first read that scene in The Three Broomsticks, I couldn't believe it! PoA was my favourite book for a long time because of the plot twists.
great list, but there was one that i hoped you'd include: moaning myrtle being the person killed by the basilisk the last time around. i remember being super young reading chamber of secrets and being shocked
One thing that I really love about the Tom Marvolo Riddle twist that makes it really underrated and interesting in my opinion is how it was handled in transitions. I’ve been studying Spanish for years, and I decided to try reading the HP books in Spanish. When I got the second book, I was dying to know how the Riddle twist was handled, since it being an anagram was very language specific. I was pleasantly surprised to learn that they had thought of that: his name was changed to “Tom Sorvolo Ryddle” which rearranges into “Soy Lord Voldemort,” and Soy is Spanish for I am
Agreed! In Turkish version the name was changed to Tom Marvoldo Riddle which rearranges into "Adim Lord Voldemort," and Adim means "My name is" in Turkish.
In Slovak it was Tom Marvoloso Riddle - "A som i Lord Voldemort" (And I'm also Lord Voldemort) good one, it wasn't even changed that much 🙂 later in book six though, the translator (who was the same as in book two) called Voldemorts grandfather Marvolo and claimed Merope said before she died giving birth in the orphanage that her son should be called Tom Marvolo. When I was first reading book two as a kid, I had it from the library and at the page where these two things were written - Tom Marvoloso Riddle, A som i Lord Voldemort, the letters in both were pencil-crossed, someone obviously wanted to know if really all the rearranged letters were used and nothing was added 😂
I loved the plot twist that Quirrell was the bad guy in the first book. It was so obvious if you payed close attention but obviously the first time reading it you totally think it’s Snape. But whenever Snape does something that’s suspicious he’s always around Quirrell. Like when they think he’s messing with Harry’s broom and Quirrell gets knocked over, or the fact that Snape is just constantly following Quirrell around….It was so well set up and very obvious once you learned it but without knowing the context it was truly very hard to see
The Chamber of Secrets really was fucking kino as a kid. It may have been the closest this series has come to a straight up horror novel, as those voices terrified me as a child.
@@rorylynch7775 Nah, any of the shit involving the basilisk, especially the whispers, was the scariest. It didn't help that John Williams delivered another banger for the film score.
@@emilisgurnikas6212 That and the author has absolutely destroyed her fanbase, so it's kind of incredible the series can still support multiple entire channels. When the HBO series hits, HP channels are basically going to have evergreen content.
My favorite plot twist is finding out Sirius was Harry’s Godfather, thinking he was responsible for James and Lilys death and then finding out he was the godfather shook me to my core
Same. The whole book/film is setting him clearly up as the villain and why, and the title reflects that. Then we find out Lupin in his friend, so we're like 😱 Lupin is evil, I didn't see that coming as the twist! Then yet another twist is revealed that Lupin and Sirius are actually both good and another character is the bad one.
To be honest I think the Mad eye being Barty Crouch was number 2 for me, because there were legit no clues, no evidences, not even a slip up of mad eye being Barty, even when he was excited like a dog for the marauders map, anybody couldve been excited for a map that good, so that plot twist was one of the most unexpected twists in the entire series, especially because how well Barty played mad-eye and how good of a teacher he actually was when we think of Mad-eye as a good mentor
I think the only moment when you can be suspicious is (at least in the movie, I haven't read the books in so long) when you see Dumbledores memory of Karkaroff trial then it reveals that Barry Crouch jr. was a Death Eater and you see the tic he has on his tongue and then seeing "Mad Eye" doing it to Barty Crouch after the Lake trial that Barty was shocked seeing him doing that and when Barty approaches "Mad Eye" tries to not do it again to finally see Barty dead
@@user-tsukiko2023, We never “met” Regulus, so there wouldn’t be any connection between Harry and him. I do think that “Severus” is kind of a slap in the face of the entire series. He was still a total bully, traitor, and I would say coward. Fork “always”. Why give a frustrated semi stalker immortality in a name?
@@SuziQ. You should probably re read the books if your calling Snape a "coward". Also, he wasn't a stalker. Lily ended their friendship and he left her alone.
This goes to show what I always say: J.K Rowling is NOT a fantasy writer( I mean , she is), but what made her famous is that she is a Detective novel writer. Thats what made these Novels so good. People think they got hooked on the fantasy universe, and the castle and the brooms and what not. But it was the plot twists and how she unfolds important information; the characters development; how she plays with time lines etc Thats what made these my favorite books of all time
I understand why harry being the horrocrux is so high, because its relevance to the books, yet , for me it will always be Pettegrrw being the rat and sirius being good. That whole scene in the hunted house, no one, nor the brightest or more potter fan in the world could see that comming
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In my opinion... When Barty Crouch Jr turned back into himself and everything made sense was the most shocking moment of the series 😱😅 but it's perfectly ranked as 3rd! ❤
Every time I watched Chamber of Secrets, i kept thinking that Harry was listening to Voldemort and wasnt paying attention to the explanation towards the end 😂
Didn't expect there to be 30 plot twists in this video. Dang, this was so much fun. Not just the info but even including stuff we might forget because it was only mentioned in the books. Plus remembering our reactions to these twists as they came. I wasn't a particularly intuitive reader and I'm still not- a bunch of these plot twists completely threw me cuz I literally had no idea. I'll never forget seeing the first movie- having only read up to the Quidditch match in the book- and finding who the real villain was. I think I literally went "whoa!" in the theater, lol
Other plot twist that to me was very interesting, the fact that Harry's "dad" saving him from the dementors was actually himself from the time loop. All those perfect time loop shenanigans from the 3rd book were pretty nice.
'Always' & snape's memories are the stand out for me. All it took was one chapter to understand the character and go from hating it to appreciating it!
There's one you left out, probably not a high ranking one in my opinion but was still a revelation to people like Hermione. "That Lockhart was a fraud."
Was anyone else not overly surprised at Dumbldore’s death? At the time, I figured that he would have to die in order for the stakes to get higher. With Hermione’s comment in the first book about harry being safe so long as Dumbledore was around, well, that practically screams that Dumbledore was going to have to die at some point. In a typical hero’s journey the mentor has to die or disappear in some way so that the main protagonist can complete his journey. It wouldn’t make sense for the only wizard Voldy ever feared to still be around when Harry defeated him. I don’t know… am/was I crazy?
I always thought Scabbers’s identity was incredible. Ron’s rat turning out to have been the very man who gave Harry’s parents up to Voldemort all along is WILD.
My favorite plot twist was Tom Marvolo Riddle becoming Lord Voldemort. No one thought that such a twisted looking man was once a handsome and elegant man. Voldemort's appearance in the book creeped me out, but film Voldy still looked... crusty. Still, I was shocked to realize that he was once a handsome young man, but still manipulative and arrogant
For the Loupin twist in my experience, for me it wasn't latin but French, where the first 4 letters of his name was loup which was wolf in French, that plus all the other reasons you listed aside from the constalations gave it away for me. Still though, his parents did a good job naming him based on his future
@@The-O-N , Later on the threads, there are comments about “Remus” being a mythical child raised by wolves, so you’re right about both of his names. His middle name was something normal (James?).
The revelation of Snape as a double(or triple) agent will always be my favorite. How him & Dumbledore orchestrated the latter's death, Snape sending the doe to Harry. It was so shocking & brilliant, but also heartwarming & sad.
My favorite plot twist was finding out the elder wand belonged to Harry and the fact that he used that knowledge to trick tom into essentially killing himself was the most badass and hype thing to know
I agree with your assessment and of course the comment section always adds more great ideas! I loved this video and give you so much credit for constantly making HP content so many years after the books and movies. Personally I can't get enough. I actually watched this twice and may watch it again because it's awesome!
He sort of did that already. He did a video for the new HP TV series that is supposed to be more true to the books, so he did a list of characters from the books that weren't in the films that he's hoping to see in the TV series and ranked them on different tiers of importance.
Honestly finding out Harry was a horcrux was indeed the biggest plot twist in the entire series, yet it was hinted at with Harry being able to talk to snakes and have a psychological connection with Voldemort.
I remember when I first watched the Chamber of Secrets movie (unfortunately I hadn’t read the book yet 😢 So I wasn’t able to read about this one first which kinda bugged me) but when I first saw that scene in the movie…My mouth dropped. Not only isn’t a killer reveal, dramatic and cool but also it’s so interesting and cool that Voldemort took his own birth name to make his villain name. I thought that it was super awesome! Plus the fact that Tom Riddle who you had come to believe was a good guy was not only a bad guy but the main bad guy of the series was SO COOL and immediately turned the entire story into a different perspective
Snape as a whole is the ultimate plot twist for me, flipping between good and bad many times throughout, and just when you think he's done the ultimate unforgivable act of murdering dumbledore the plot once again gets flipped on its head.
My top twist is in fact how snape was good. We were orchestrated throughout the entire series that he was fishy but never the cause of the crime. It was kind of out there but I ruled it to be “he was to smart to f with the boy who lived if you know who wasn’t back yet” and then we find out he’s a death eater and I’m like “I KNEW HE WAS EVIL” and then ofc dumbledores death and the half blood prince, that’s the end of us thinking he’s good. But then we get to snapes worst memory and the “always” part was one of the best well thought plot twists of all time.
I have to disagree, not so much with your selection of this as the top twist, but with the statement that "Snape was good." Snape was a professor who bullied the students he didn't like, and a man who drove away the love of his life by calling her a "mudblood.' Also he revealed to Voldy the part of the prophecy he had overheard, and he was the one who told Voldy when Harry was to be escorted from Little Whinging - making him doubly responsible for the hole in George's head, and partially responsible for Mad-Eye's death (and maybe Hedwig's, too) Courageous he was, as any successful double-agent would be. Plus, he was protecting Harry ... when he had to. He was also trying to get Harry expelled, on several occasions, so points off for that. Sorry, but there is just way too much bad there to make a blanket statement of his being good.
@@i.marchand4655, I agree with everything you said, but, didn’t Snape have to tell them about the departure from Harry’s house, to keep his double agent job?
Ever since the first book when it was revealed that Snape was the one stopping Quirrell from sabotaging Harry when he was flying on the broom, I knew that Snape was good. None of the misdirection in the later books fooled me. Honestly, Rowling shouldn't have had Snape do something good in the first book like that. It would have made it less obvious what the twist would be.
I love how when Fred and George had the marauder’s map, they’d probably check on his brother at night, seeing he’s sleeping with Peter Pettigrew next to him. There just like, “huh” and go to bed like it’s nothing 😂
honestly the amount of plot twists in PoA is what's most impressive, for such a short book, so much was packed into it and I didn't guess I single one right.
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Surely Snape killing Dumbledore can't have been that much of a surprise, since we have him discussing the assassination plan with the sisters Black. He even alludes to the fact that he thinks it will be him carrying out the plan when the time comes. Of course, the situation is far more complext (which we don't learn until deathly Hallowes) but it is still a rather large clue. The shock comes, I am guessing, because we hope - even to the last - that can somehow be avoided. I think it is sometimes well to differentiate surprise from shock.
By the way: in the German Version of the books (which I grew up with) the name "Tom Marvolo Riddle" was changed to "Tom Vorlost Riddle" so it rearranges to "ist Lord Voldemort" (is Lord Voldemort). And I kinda prefer that because that makes this a sentence. So the revelation is basically being spelled out as Harry learns it.
Maybe just me, but I was definitely shocked that Umbridge sent the dementors to Privet Drive. By the time it came up again in the book I had totally forgotten about it 😂
Great list! Some honourable mentions: Ludo Bagman wasn't sinister evil; he had simply made a dodgy deal with the goblins Slughorn was the one who told Tom Riddle about horcruxes
On that note, could we put the fact that Dobby was the reason why Platform 9 and 3/4 got sealed up and why the Bludger broke Harry’s arm as a plot twist?
