HART Tools Angle Grinder BROKEN After ONE USE!? (Tested ON STEEL BEAM) 

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"We headed to the place where we can find the grinder that the person that would leave that comment probably shops for tools.... Wal-Mart!" 😅🤣

Who else suffers from a broken Hart? It’s a pain that only DeWalt and Milwaukee can mend.

Now I wanna see the Hart recip make that cut with those Diablo blades!

I mean I’m sure even Walmart would tell you no you can’t cut an I beam with a Hart grinder lol. This tool was made for home owners who might need to cut some ducting or tiles or something every once in a while, and I’m sure it’s perfectly viable for those purposes. This would be like taking a Kia Soul and criticizing it for not being able to pull a 4 ton trailer or something haha

If I’m ever trapped in a steel room, I don’t want this tool as my means of escape. 🤣

They kick into like a protection mode when the get real hot , I have one they just need to cool down a few minutes, they make a brushless one now that u probably wouldn't have to worry about overheating , they also have upgraded their chargers , they have several to choose from now , just letting u know , love the channel have a good one

I would say that Hart sells light duty tools. An I beam is not light duty.

Your not only a "Very Cool Guy, your a Very Correct Guy"! Recip saw all the way! Great vid Vince!

I use the hart grinder for filing my long toe nails

I got the heart power supply the one like the Milwaukee top up, and also have their 20 volt fan got them all on clearance for like 10 bucks a piece and I got a 4 amp hour battery for 30 bucks with charger so that's my fishing tools I take them with me when I go fishing

That was a very dangerous way to use an angle grinder. Luckily it was a very weak cordless grinder. Next time watch a safety video on grinders before using one. Angle grinders are VERY dangerous.

Hart is obviously just built different 😂

Vince just didn't put his heart into that one. Get it, heart. 🤣🤣🤣 I use a Milwaukee m18 fuel 9in grinder and a cut off saw , but for tight spaces a recip is the way to go.

Not a bad choice for tools that you know you're gonna treat REALLY bad. As far as TTI making both HART and Milwaukee... Chevy makes both the Corvette, and the Aveo. There's a pretty broad spectrum of quality they'll put out.

If a reciprocating saw is able to do the job, then its good for that job

I bought a Hart drill, impact, sawzall, and flashlight combo with two batteries for 60 bucks, just to see. The very first screw i drove with it, was the last. Gave it to my neighbors kid for his birthday. He loves it. Cheap present for a teenager👍

LoL@ you bought the grinder that the commenter would have used.

I would like to see the Hart brushless with that diablo blade trying to cut trough that I beam to compare with the other 2? I might do it myself later on but I like your videos!! 😁

I thought the Milwaukee video with the I beam was really cool. The balloon head that thought the hart grinder was the way to go is just inexperienced and needs to sit down be quite. If I was going to try that with a grinder, I would go with a high end 15amp corded 9" German Metabo or German Fein 15amp corded equivalent. Thanks for the video Vince !!!!!

Idk who thought a grinder was a better tool for that job lol especially like you said about speed and the hot work permits...I've been on some sites that consider grinding hot work because of the sparks. Recip saw for the win

WHAT'S UP "VCG" FROM EAST LA....THANKS FOR THE INFO....GOOD JOB VINCE.....BLACK & YELLOW BIG DOG.

The thing about hart for me is Walmart is everywhere. If I was outside of a major city without any tools and needed something I think I would try hart Nothing I do is heavy duty

12inch concrete saw 🤣 can do the job with a metal cutting disc 👍

I love it! How often do you use your GRINDER.. to CUT... an I beam? I believe it's all in the name my good sir, but I think you already knew that!

A metal cutting circular saw is superior for most cuts...an I beam might be difficult to get blade access to the center area though try a milwaukee m18 model....you won't use a sawzall again..

Man mine been grinder hard for a year! I bought the brushless one two weeks ago. Video on my channel

LOL comparing a $44 grinder to a couple hundred dollar reciprocating saw seems a bit biased LOL

You Gotta be kidding me I will not cut 8 inch 👁 beam. With a 4 1/2 inch grinder maybe with a 12 “🤔that’s if I want to send a shower of sparks for literally 10 minutes🤔 The blade technology for the reciprocating saw is there now but I guess it’s personal preference and what tool that you have I would go with ❓the reciprocating saw would be my choice😍. Some people have torches again a shower of molten metal 🤔 🥴

I agree with you Vince in shop and controlled environment the sawzall is nice but in the field my metabo does the work in tight places or difficult places. like you said right tool for job

I have a gas powered ... Cutting tool that would do it sub 2 minutes but the 1600 price point is a bit of a barrier .. I would grab one of my re-cip saws to cut that first before the Stihl

Not a HART user but this guy looks like he’s never used a grinder before

Yea no cordless grinder is gonna beat the super sawzall. I don't understand the argument that it's the wrong tool for the job when it does the job the best and with the least hassle. That's usually how it works when you use the right tool for the job. Don't feed the trolls Vince lol

It had a HART attack.

What is an I-Beam? A real heavy piece of metal. It takes an awesome tool to cut it, period.

You’re right, Vince. I tried cutting a steel lintel with my Milwaukee grinder. I quickly switched the tool.

Pretty sure the Flacéd line of tools would have done better. Sadly though the batteries have been charging for months.

Im a traffic signal technician and I use Milwaukee’s 2780-20 & 2785-20 every day and I wouldn’t waste my time using them on an I-beam. The grinders are great tools but the biggest thing I’ve cut with them is a 5 inch diameter bolt head. Now could I cut down a metal pole yes but normally I’m going for the K770 from Husqvarna.

This is crazy, I just bought a hart grinder yesterday. But it was on clearance for $22 so if it breaks I ain't worried lol

I use a Sawzall. I keep my torches at home in my metal fabricating shop. You must have viewers from the Flintstone age, we call those Barney Know-it-all Rubbles, lol.

I will not shop at chinamart for power tools.

Dude who uses grinders to cut I beams? Bro I use Wally World industrial grade scissors all the way to cut I beams.

Yes thats the correct tool like you said ya don't need a guy on fire watch if you would use a torch

I very rarely use an angle grinder for anything and I don't think it would be the right tool for that task. however out of curiosity I would be interested in seeing how a professional angle grinder (like the flex or milwaukee) would do against that I beam.

I agree that the sawzall is a good way to cut an I Beam I am interested how the metabo hpt 36v Sawzall would stand up to this challenge

The name of the tool says it all GRINDER meaning grind off sharp edges, imperfections, finishes etc. a cutoff tool which looks similar to a grinder is for cutting. However depending on application a recip saw /Sawzall is the best tool. Why did companies invent/build/design/develop blades specifically for that job.

I have cut I beams all the time with a grinder, I don’t use cordless. I use a craftsman corded rear handle trigger grinder, and it works like a beast. I would love to see a review on that, as well as the DW718 miter saw from Dewalt.

I wish my Dewalt dcg413 had that top handle spot 😂 also I got a Hart tools AND a onlyfans ad on this video 😂

I am actually going to disagree with you on this one Vince. A reciprocating saw is something I would expect to be used for a less constant workload, while an angle grinder should be a very constant duty, heavy load type of tool. That is why angle grinders tend to have such strong cooling solutions compared to many other tools. There is no reason you shouldn't use a recip saw to cut the beam if it is up to the task, but an angle grinder should really be ideal for that task in the hands of someone who actually knows how to use it. That's not to say that it should be faster, just that it should be better designed to handle the task and experience less wear and tear from it. Given that you didn't push it too hard any half decent grinder should have been able to do what that Hart failed to do without issue. Even for an occasional DIYer that Hart seems subpar for anything more than a very quick light task.

first of all...who ever says to use a grinder to cut an I-beam is dead wrong...reciprocating saw is the way to go....if you look at the package of the diablo thick metal or amped reciprocating blades or milwaukee & lenox it shows a picture of an I-BEAM !!! to represent what kind of metals it can cut !! reciprocating saw will give you a more accurate cut. second....why is TTi putting out a grinder in the hart brand ?? its a consumer/DIY brand of tool....what DIY'er is gonna use a grinder or knows how to use one ?? 🤔 throw that hart grinder in the trash where it belongs !! 😅

Im an industrial machanic 22 years i use hart i have no issues i use 4ah bats on my drivers.. your shops way to clean to take you seriously. You should get the hart weed wacker and mower for them weeds .

Just.... Just stop already! This will never work!

Power tool guys know the internet exists right? If you're vuuing your tools based off whats in your area idk sounds stupid...

I cut a 6” i-beam into 6 sections to build a narrow gauge locomotive. Didn’t want to burn up my Milwaukee grinder, which is also lithium powered, so bought a cheap $14 Menards Tool Shop brand. I used Harbor freights cheapest disks, i think 10 for $5. Took about a hour continuous to make all the cuts. Grinder is still working, I fully expected to burn it up. i use it as my spare or when i need to do long continuous cuts.only went through 3 disks

LMAO! I love this video, it shoves the shit right back in the skeptics face. good work.

Definitely used a sawzall a few times when I worked Demo to cut I beams. Worked fine

@vcgcontruction If I was just trying to get that I beam out of my way then HECK YEAH Recip all day! However "IF" I was trying to make nice cuts "as nice as you can with demo equipment" I would use a combination of several tools but...... I'm a tradesman and have a couple (nowhere near enough) tools. Love you VCG.

Those Diablo blades are no joke! Used a Amped the other day on 12" Cast iron. Like butter, lasted every cut, worth every penny.

Look I realize the comment was made by a novice. They have no business (in MY opinion) telling someone with your experience and knowledge how or what to do when it comes to this. However, I've worked in construction and I understand the difference between DeWalt and Hart tools. Please understand, if it's for SMALL AROUND THE HOUSE projects Hart is a good economical tool for weekend Warriors. You are definitely AWESOMESAUCE DIPPED IN BADASSERY, but please remember us little people watch you too😊✨️

In 2016 my ex girlfriend bought me a corded black and decker grinder from Walmart for $30.. 5 years ago. I’ve had that for 5 years and it’s a fucking beast. But I wouldn’t ever cut an I-beam with it lmao. Before I had good recip blades, I would use my deep cut bandsaw but then have to go back and finish the cut with a recip saw. Always wished there was a better way. If I was in a shop setting then I would totally use a horizontal bandsaw but in the field, Milwaukee with a HO batt, Diablo or Milwaukee thiccc metal blade and I’m set.

I just had to help with a huge demo job with an air handler on a hospital. All of the frame was insulated with foam around the I beams which kept the torches from working properly, no 220 so couldn't plasma cut the beams either. We tried grinders and the discs burned up very fast and there was many areas where a grinder would not clear the tight corners. The sawzalls were the quickest and most efficient way to demo the beams. It sucked but they most assuredly have their place.

Junk.

Where's Nick and the other guy who was doing the videos during the holidays? I need that, "come on" argument

I picked up the hart grinder on sale. Without 4 amp hour batteries it is pretty bad. The small batteries over heat after about 2 minutes of run time and you have to let them cool. However, for the price it is pretty good at cutting light metal with the 4 ah batteries. You still cant push it, nor expect it to be a corded grinder. It saves me a ton of time because I keep the grinding wheel on the corded angle grinder and the cut off wheels on the cordless so I am not changing them out every 5 minutes. They do sell a lot better charger now to, with the combo of 2 4ah batteries and a tool for 100 bucks. I picked up the hand vac to clean up mouse turds at camp :)

That's cold Vince! Should have at least used the Milwaukee or the Flex to make it fair, lol. But I understand, For the trolls 💩

Vince, you should have used a Flex grinder.

Matabo 6 inch slicer would walk through that I beam as a welder I would know but I could definitely see how the recip saw would come in handy and just saying been welding all my life and have never seen anyone cut I beam with a recip lol 😆

this will eat a I beam for lunch lol dewalt DCG440B 60V MAX 7 in. Brushless Cordless Grinder with Kickback Brake..... but for an i beam cut, there is no better tool than plasma cutter!!! a heavy duty long stoke sawsall should win a race vs a grinder but a grinder can make the cuts cheaper!!! you will dull a sawsall blade that cost more making fewer cuts and cut wheel can cut more cheaper but take longer.

I agree with you, that's not the right tool but could be done. Personally i did it with my Dewalt DCG418X but took me more than ten (10) minutes to cut it along the H-shape, but with my Milwaukee Circular saw 27882 took me less than five minutes, my dewalt grinder battery run out of charge, but my Milwaukee didn't.

Smh.... I'm pretty sure the hart tools are for home building.. home owners and handyman only.. Not for beams. 🤷🤦 and best to treat youre tools better...and using a 20amp battery???? Seriously??🤦 😂

It’s like using harbor freight drills called the tough stuff. Usually when it has the name tough stuff really isn’t that tough. I couldn’t agree more if I buy a tool I want to use what I have and pack less I only want the best heavy duty tool I can buy. When I drop a tool by accident then I think hey it’s still like new glad I buy DEWALT. I purchased a tour stuff drill only because I forgot mine it didn’t even finish the job and still had to drive back and get the DEWALT to finish the job should have saved my money. I say you could go wrong with DEWALT or Milwaukee tools both great I say DeWaukee

That's an apples to oranges comparison. Abrasive blades rely on speed to cut and at 6500 RPM, the hart doesn't have it. Me personally, I'd use my Metabo 6" grinder with a .045" slicer wheel spinning at 10k RPM because that's what I have. If I were doing it every day, the plasma cutter would be my go to and put everything else to shame. With all that being said, the sawzalls did an impressive job and if it gets the job done, that's what matters.

Umm. No. I wouldn't buy a Hart grinder. I'd buy a Dewalt grinder or similar quality grinder. At worst, I'd buy a big box store's exclusive brand like Home Depot's Ridgid or Lowe's Kobalt.

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I do structural welding and cut ibeams. NO A GRINDER DOES NOT CUT THEM FASTER! but they come in handy depending if the I-beam is already installed.

If I didn't want to use a torch I'd probably cut the web and flanges with my good Ole fein then cut where the web and flanges meet with the Sawzall if my disc can't reach all the way through. Idk I've just always had better luck cutting with grinders than my Milwaukee Sawzall. Their metal cutting circular saw though... 🤤

Well for one it's a damn I beam and 2nd the blade it comes with sucks ass, if you had a different blade you would've at least cut into it some, not trying to say hart is even good, I use Craftsman, Dewalt, some Kobalt, and Ryobi and never had a single issue, love every single tool I own. Craftsmans new 20v system is the shit, an extremely good price to pay for how well they perform. It is extremely underrated.

It depends and what you need done the fastest would be an oxy set with an 6mm cutting head but you will have sparks A plasma cutter will do it as well but it'll be slower than the sawsall A grinder will do this cut but you'd want at least an 5" and up grinder, preferably power cord tool cordless is pretty useless at this cut. You'll want an 1mm cutting disc and that's for it's cutting speed and longer life, you are using an 2mm disc which is super slow and you'll go through it fast too fast. so a grinder that's 5" to 7" 1mm disc will fly through this as it's 3 cuts top bottom then through the center. An 9" will probably do this as 1 cut straight through but some people get scared with 9" grinders However the above will throw off a lot of sparks, which if you don't want or can't have sparks then you can't use the above methods. The other problem with grinders is space you need to have access to everything and a sawsall depending on blade length might cut through this I-Beam in 1 go. SPace is usually the bigger problem rather than sparks etc, if you can't get a grinder in anyway then you won't be using a grinder in the first place

Well I work shut down on power plants, and I use Milwaukee all day. And we do the exact same thing plus way more with ours. We rarely use grinders because you need a fire watch and what not.. We way rather use a sawzall especially cordless. Because believe it or not, the hardest thing to find in a power plant is power/ 110 plug. So that's a good trick for sure. But honestly a far comparison would be to use a 6 inch grinder, cordless. Not a 4 inch. Because a four inch grinder isn't really great for cutting its more for grinding or cutting small things. On top of that when you do cut a I-beam with a grinder its aggravating af to cut beams with. And if those spammers had actually cut one before they would know that.

I would use my Milwaukee 9in cordless grinder with a Metabo cutting wheel

We used Milwaukee sawzalls with Torch blades to cut through everything. Especially when we were D&R'n stuff. That's said, if I was gonna cut a beam like that at home, I would use my torch.

I see people use grinders in the wrong direction (IMO) all the time. I have the blade spinning so the tool will pull away from me. You are able to have much better control. Safety first is what most will say but I've cut a thousands cuts and never broke a blade. Have watched others using blade spinning sparks away from there body and broke many blades. I think it's a safer way

Hello Vince. Hell most probably don’t know how turn grinder on. Them diablos are the devils breath. They cut damn near anything. Stay sharp brother. From ur WV hillbilly buddy.

I've used a Dewalt grinder with a metal cut-off thin curf blade to do small jobs like rebar... but an I-beam? Maybe a gas cut-off tool with a 15"+ diamond blade, but not a grinder.

Ok so first things first, you mentioned that you put a cutoff wheel on there but you never stated a brand or quality of said wheel. Not all metal cutoff wheels are created equal a cheap wheel will just mar the surface as it deteriorates, where a good quality blade will cut through like butter and yes will outperform a reciprocating saw. The next problem is as you're trying to tell people that your way is better in a rigged and biased fashion as you're not even comparing apples to apples, you use a Milwaukee reciprocating saw, with high-end Diablo blade, and compare that to a hart grinder with a basic cutoff wheel? Of course that is not going to get the best results! Granted heart is made by TTI, however it is not the same as Milwaukee, because although the same company makes a good tool when you're building to a price point you scale a lot of things back and build a crappy tool in order to meet your price point. With a proper quality grinder and a cutoff wheel it would eat through that I-beam a lot quicker than your reciprocating saw blade! For for proper demonstration of that go get yourself a Milwaukee grinder and a Diablo cut-off blade then you will get a true apples to apples comparison! Or to prove it to yourself for cheaper go get a heart reciprocating saw and use the blade that comes in the box or any cheap blade to try to cut through that I beam, and see where that get to you!

A sawzall is the perfect tool for cutting such metal. I tore down a mobile home by hand and used a Walmart hyper tough sawzall. I would never use a grinder. The blade is too small and it's much more dangerous. A friend of mine tried it and the blade broke and went into his arm... A grinder is for small jobs

For demanding cutting job, no battery powered angle grinder will make the cut (pun intended). But with that said dewalt 60v max angle grinder will probably have the best chance.

In addition to my last comment, I WOULD NEVER EVER EVER USE A FRIGGING GRINDER TO CUT AN I BEAM LMAO

That angle grinder was overworked it's not design for that level of use a contractor grade version is like Milwaukee makita DeWalt even Ridgid is better this is same class as Ryobi

I mean...... the grinder actually meant for something like this made by hart is not this one and on torque test Channel it compared with the best of the best when it comes to cordless grinders LOL

I could use my 7 inch gigantic 20 year old Milwaukee 15 amp rear handle grinder with a slicing blade but those sawsall blades look much safer especially if you were making a cut midway on a long beam where the blade might try and get pinched. I hate exploding abrasive wheels.

I use Ryobi, I just fix things around the house. Minor construction work. My BIL does it for a living. Milwaukee etc. Right tools for the right job.

18 years ago I cut an I beam twice like the 1 in this video with a an old bosch 9 inch corded grinder using 2x1.9 mm thick 230 mm (9 "inch) discs it took some doing to get it done cos that damn old grinder was a bit heavy. It's about time I got rid of that old grinder I had it for nearly 35 years when I see a reciprocating saw doing something like this I wish I had those back in the day

Imagine how sick tiny Red Lithium USB powered 1/4" and 3/8" stubby ratchets would be. Milwaukee hire me I got a hundred more ideas like this.

Carbide metal Blade in a sawzall, or maybe a large enough metal cutting cutting circular saw, will beat a hand grinder with an abrasive disc every time. I think the sawzall even has an edge over a band saw, since I have not seen carbide band saw blades... A cutting torch... Sure, but sometimes you don't have the right environment for that.

Looks like the Ryobi brushed grinder painted white, same tool in handle, same shape

Cool. Just used a 1950's original sawzall (414) and 9" diablo clean wood carbide blade to take down a 16ft evergreen...like butta.

I doubt even Makita's XGT 9in grinder would beat a reciprocating saw cutting through an I-beam. Way to much friction from the wheel.

I cut beam all the time. Small and large. And i use all type of cordless power tool. Mostly Milwaukee and Dewalt. There 4-1/2 inch will but it will take for ever with a few batteries. But there not really deep enough to cut through the flange to the web . but a 6 inch Metabo will eat right through it with enough blade to flip that beam and go inside that 90 degree to the other side and finish the cut.

Hello vcg ; how are y'all doing?? I'm just getting in the tools and the Hart line and I. Dont know that much on tools but from what I seen and have learned from y'alls channel I agree with you a grinder is not the way to go the right tool for the right job lol And plus like you said vcg Vince Hart not made for that kind of work lol