You can not blame Ariana for not wanting Tom, Tom or Rachel in her life....they ALL were lying to her and stabbing her in her back endlessly for Months & months. That is the most evil betrayal you can endure in a relationship with both romantic partner & friends.
@@justmeboorockstar2085 Yes there is. At the time it must have been devastating but enough now. But it’s not Ariana who is being nasty, it’s the others. What are they trying to prove?
Scheana is jealous. She makes it about her. Didn't lala said that actions speak louder than words. Ariana has always showed up when her friends needed her and defended them always. People show they care differently. Lala hasn't always been the easiest person to open up with and Ariana has a hard time opening up. Scheana makes it about her a little too much.
I hate listening to Sandoval try to justify his actions. If he wasn’t happy or he didn’t love her or like her as a person HE SHOULDVE LEFT. Period. There’s no excuse.
She's not the first person nor will she be the last ,and attacking the other tom saying she gave up on him a long time ago is stupid ,its not his fault you got cheated on ....move on with your life
Katie has no choice, she would have absolutely have no story if she didn't now hang on to Ariana's every word. Plus they did open the sandwich shop, yeah Choices LOL
Tom Sandoval did not just make fun of the girls for “standing on stage and screaming the lyrics to words someone else is saying” when that is all he does ☠️
Hearing Scheana and Lala shade Ariana shows you how hypocritical they are, and you wonder why the fans don’t react to their situations. Scheana will never be the queen of the group because she’s a total flip flopper that needs the recognition of the men, sound familiar?? No wonder she was so close to Raquel 😂😮
Honestly we don't even know their relationship you don't know what happened behind closed doors or didn't happen on the show so how could you say they're not supporting her maybe she's not the best Ariana got cheated on doesn't make her the best person in the world
Yes the toms can't handle Katie and Ariana no longer propping them up and soothing their insecurities so they lash out at them, How dare they think well of themselves, those damn women.
Literally with that comment of "singing other people's lyrics" when it's exactly what he does with his rink a dink band. They're a traveling karaoke mid life crisis project. He's such an idiot.
Having boundaries and being strong not equating to being a diva was the perfect response. I've gone through what Tom did to her, and you either despise who you are and avoid any mirror because of how much you hate yourself and blame yourself, or you become the opposite -- completely indifferent to the wants and needs of others and you become dismissive of and unforgiving with others. I can't knock her for knowing her worth and choosing to keep people that trigger her at bay.
Agreed. People think she's a flip flopper but really she's just trying to get as much screen time as possible. She'll say and do anything to stay on TV.
So shallow, if she’s not the center of attention, she’s not happy nor is she a girls girl being supportive of Ariana who had more opportunities than her this year. What about when Ariana was a backup dancer in Scheana’s Good as Gold single and she was getting opportunities. Scheana doesn’t like to share the success unless she has more going on
Scheana… the fact that James Kennedy is proving to be a more loyal friend to Ariana than her “bestie for forever” is wild. Also Katie continues to be the best. Seeing her and Ariana thrive and cheerlead each other is just so lovely.
Oh no. Don’t say how great Katie is. She’s awful and always has been. I’m not buying this present persona, cos I know the real Katie is still in there and will be clawing her way out sooner or later. Ugh
Yeah that’s not a compliment. Katie was and will always be tequila Katie. Let’s not forget how quickly Ariana became besties with Stassi that one season and dropped Scheana like a hot potato.
Schwartz disassociating as Sandoval claims that Ariana was a terrible girlfriend before the affair came out, Sandoval saying “You saw it” as he gives him no affirmation that he did. And then deflecting to the “Ariana became a diva” narrative. Schwartz is a Grade A Coward.
Schwartz is a man child. He cant think on his own. And he did treat katie horribly too. He would make out with woman while he was married. That's cheating. Katie final realized he was a man child and got out of the marraige. Now Schwartz is doing what ever tom sandavol wants him to say to protect the bar from failing. Both Toms are not good people. both very manipulative.
@@FEMnomenall Katie should have never pressured him into marrying her because he clearly didn't want to. He avoided filling the paperwork that would have made their first wedding legal and had to do it again.
@@gregap8282look how fast she got into a relationship she's using that situation to make millions and I can't blame her but let's not pretend like she's wasn't part of a cheating situation before. This whole situation of ganging up on Tom needs to end. He's a sorry pos yes but you're adults move the fuck on. If the producers are pushing for more drama than say it because it's pretty obvious this show isn't 100 real.
Scheana, just admit you had Rachel's EX on your podcast for revenge and what you have discussed with him was disgusting. If she could or could not hear it at the time is certainly not the point.
Schwartz is going along with Sandoval's narative of "Ariana did everything bad in the relationship and I deserved to cheat on her" so that their Tom Tom bar does not fail. Schwartz is all about Schwartz just like Sandrovol is about Sandrovol.
Sheena is jealous. At one point she said dancing with the stars was her dream first. Like Ariana shouldn't have been on it and given the gig to Sheena. They didn't want you Sheena. Get over it.
@@maryelaine-blinstrubchambe6083 it’s SCHEANA! And she’s not jealous you can still be happy for someone while being disappointed for yourself that you didn’t get something you’ve always wanted also Ariana can’t stand she’s stiff af in all of her dances she looked ridiculous that’s why she didn’t win
Swartz is Sandoval's little lap dog. Ariana has every right to be angry still. This was very soon after the scandal broke and reunion. Swartz is a cheater himself so obviously he don't care about how Ariana feels. Sheana is not Ariana's friend and Sandoval is so cringy and still lying.
She’s not the first woman to get cheated in betrayed on like move on. Clearly she’s not afraid of Tom as she said because I could care less for my peace and sanity I would’ve been left that house. She has a new man and New fame. I’m over this whole storyline.
I don’t think it’s an ego thing . I think she’s being petty which is totally understandable to me , anyone in that position would do the same . People also need to realize that they started filming not long after they found out so everything is still fresh .
6:57 “I did not say one word about Lala and her breakup” THAT IS LITERALLY A LIE! You did it the first episode of last season saying she should have known what she was getting into before she got knocked up
I think he means he did not run with and demonize her on social media. The fact is that this Ariana fall out was milked by these girls to propel their blog and pod casts at his expense and that's what I think he meant.
And we’re not gonna pretend like he hasn’t been demonizing Katy because of her and Schwartz’s relationship since forever trying to make her seem like a villain, and that she tortures shorts like he’s a baby or something🙄 He’s actually giving the same spill about Ari that he gave about Katy
"Like where they sit on stage and they scream the lyrics to like words that somebody else is playing." Wow, this from the genius singer of 'Schwartz's Mom' which set to the tune of not of 'Stacey's Mom' but 'Jessie's Girl'.
Ariana would not have gotten any, if not most, of those jobs without this scandal blowing up her fame...let's not dance around the reality of the situation.
Turning a crisis into an opportunity for growth seems like the right mindset to have. Would you rather her just be humiliated and suffer because she trusted the wrong people? The reality of the situation is that Ariana is more capable than she once thought herself to be, and half the cast is too busy being jealous with entitled attitudes to build what she has.
Wow all of them besides Katie and James is so jealous of Ariana and her success it is so apparent. They can deny it all they want but you can read right through them all
I don't understand why everyone is making such a big deal out of him cheating on Ariana.... he did the same thing to Kristen and nobody seemed to care...
when my ex was cheating on me, our mutual friend told my ex that he had until the next day to tell me or HE would. Tom Schwartz was NEVER Ariana's friend. I'm glad she's paying him DUST.
Putting distance between yourself and people who have wronged you isn’t wrong. But being exceptionally rude to a person who may have disappointed you is just immature, especially in a social setting where your rudeness creates an awkward situation for mutual friends. It doesn’t really cost anything to be polite but it costs you a lot of energy projecting negative feelings. Just my introverted opinion, I more than most can understand protecting your peace.
Ariana is behaving the same way as when she first started dating Tom and she got backlash from Kirsten. She’s just acting passive aggressive, snarky and she’s smiling a lot. When she got with Tom she was so confident she was not like the other girls and claimed his ex was mentally insane. I feel for her but at the same time I know she can be a mean and extra girl.
I agree with your comment until you said you felt for Ariana because I just watched back what Ariana did to Kristen by cheating with Tom an Ariana literally turn the entire cast against Kristen who had done nothing to Ariana !! Ariana is no different then Rachel except for the fact Rachel is a nice person !!
Ariana's ego has definitely gotten bigger. It has nothing to do with "working harder" as she put it. She got those opportunities only because of Scandoval. But the whole cast has gotten bigger egos.
Exactly. Without the scandal the show would fall off as they all had no real storyline worth watching. They need to slick thank them , that’s all they talk about
Ariana is so boring and she needs to stop, So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
Omg he is maddening! He is forever excusing his behavior. If he had issues with her 'ego' during the relationship then he should have been an actual adult and dealt with it.
She did need to be checked. She's getting annoying. Like ok girl you got cheated on. Leave and move on but you rather stay and be petty and passive aggressive. Move out already and move tf on if you hate him so much
@@walkwithrach22 your the one who doesn’t get it he’s making fun of the girls for going to emo night and singing cover songs … but his band does all cover songs … hello that’s the point of the comment
The men want her to be a Egotistical raging Diva and i dont see a problem in that maybe she should be more like you men and only care about what makes her happy !!! 😂 i love her
What ego? Arianna didn't ask for this, Tom is the one who did this. What is she supposed to do, is she supposed to curl up in a ball and die? She's being offered great opportunities, why not take them? I know there's a comment coming up from Lala about her 'being God' and people are starting to have negative feelings toward Arianna. Lala & Scheana & the others have all benefitted greatly from this whole scandal. Lala bought a whole house with $$ earned from her 'Send it to Darrell' apparel, I've seen them in commercials, and they got invited to the frickin White House and the Emmys. Why the jealousy? Schwartz needs to look to his right and see who is the problem and who is the Diva.
Ariana he has always been condescending, cold, aloof, and egotistical. What happened to her was terrible, but it’s very common unfortunately. The audience reaction was bizarre🙄
When she just started dating Tom and told the world Kristen had a personality disorder, made her look crazy. She was bold and mean. She had no problem taking her man.
@@kelseywillow8110you are so correct and I cannot believe how many people are forgetting what Ariana did to Tom and Kristen's relationship but now Ariana is acting like a total b**** and she only got the deal she's getting because of Rachel and Tom !!!
10000% So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
Ariana was wronged but i’m over her entitlement to free rein of shaming and belittling people. Now this group of mean girls feel completely validated in all their past bullying behaviour and i’m over them.
Sheana had no business physically assaulting Rachel and shaming her own her podcast. Unhinged. And yes you can punch someone with nails, you are even more dangerous with those nails..
If I was Tom … I would at this point, quite the show, not come back to season 12 and watch them all get canceled. And let them see how relevant he is to keeping the show entertaining. Without him and this drama the show is boring. I wouldn’t continuously get bullied for their behalf to thrive off my pain.
@@lifestyle7936just to let you know there is not any sandwich shop that's ever going to open because the last Instagram live the Katy Perry on it did there was hundreds of people on that live that were telling Ariana and Katie that they didn't receive the merchandise that they had paid for in both Ariana and Katie were telling people to f off and then several people said why is the sandwich shop completely empty and the sign has been taken down and both Katie and Ariana denied it but the people were smart and they started posting pictures of the sandwich shop and the sign is gone and the inside is completely bare !!! 🤬🤬 then when Katie and Ariana were doing an interview they also we're talking about paying rent but it was in past tense so they lost the entire building but yet they are both making 250,000 a month by selling their merchandise for the sandwich shop that is never going to open !! I also wanted to add when people started posting pictures proving the Ariana and Katie were lying did the shop was completely cleaned out and the sign was taken down they quickly cut off all comments !! 🤬🤬
Ariana has no right to call Tom Schwartz a loser! She certainly is not the queen of the show! She's always been a diva. She was not happy with Tom since 2015 maybe sooner. She should have left the relationship. A healthy relationship has intimacy. Tom stated," he wanted to leave and she wouldn't let him leave." She in so many words led him to think she would want to die. Allegedly In so many words that's what she was saying. That's what I took from what was shown on TV. Sheena did go too far by interviewing someone Rachel dated the guy is a jerk. Sheena should also be a bit more humble. She did lay her hands on Rachel whether it was a punch or not it's still assault. Rachel clearly had scratches all over her face. She should be thanking Rachel, not trashing her! Let's call a spade a spade here! I like Sheena I'm glad she's happy, but don't push it! Be thankful! Without Rachel who is the missing link, for saving the whole show. It will not last and I quote .
Ariana is so boring and she needs to stop, So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
I love how she refuses to acknowledge that she booked “jobs” not based on talent but on the fact that she was in a highly publicized reality show breakup that went viral and people pitied her. She banked on her misfortune all the while co-signing her fair weather “best friends” podcasting aka destroying two people who had an affair. Like I’ve said before, this isn’t the first time or last time that someone has cheated on someone and Ariana should know because she was a cheater at some point, it just didn’t go viral when she did it. The thing that bothers me the most is she’s been candid about her struggle with depression but she won’t acknowledge that this public campaign that she participated in led to one going for an extended stay at rehab with both of them having suicidal ideation. This whole thing has blown up and gotten way out of hand.
Confidence and vengeance are two different things. The best thing that Tom did was cheat on u. U don't need him but stop trying to make ppl life's hell because ur miserable. Happy ppl aren't vindictive. And that's what Ariana has become. It isn't cute
Sandoval and Rachel, they should also be thanked for saving the show from being canceled and Ariana from being fired because lvp has came out and said that production am Bravo wanted to fire Ariana until the Scandal happened !!! Ariana has always been a b**** and I do believe every word Tom says when Ariana said she was going to hurt herself if he left her because we've all heard her claim that she was going to kill herself several times on the show !!! Ariana is just getting the karma back for what she had done to Kristen when Tom was with Kristen an Ariana cheated with him behind Kristen's back for over a year. So I say karma is a b**** Arianna in your 15 minutes of fame is running out very quickly !!!
Ariana does have an ego…she’s over the top with the negative energy at this point and she literally is living with Tom and not paying bills just to be petty. I’m over her. Shwartz is right.
Professional Victim Maddix is so undeserving of all the praise, sympathy, deification that too many people give her. She was in a fake relationship with Tom, consigning him to the role of friend without benefits. She cheated, gaslit, lied, was a mean girl, and is highly manipulative. Her “heartbreak” about Tom being with Rachel was for the cameras. And so heartbroken that she gets involved with Daniel within 3 weeks? (Another fake relationship.) Ariana should not be your hero.
10000% So negative since she started on the show, it’s clear she hated Tom I personally think she used him to get on the show, also she at least kissed Tom when he was with Kristen (I think they fucked personally) and then you enjoyed watching while you made everyone think Kristen was crazy, also you covered for your Tom when he fucked Miami girl, you knew what you were getting into and you LOVE the attention your getting from it, none of these people like Ariana they just want a band wagon of hate to jump on, also apparently when they had the conversation on the sofa and tom said “I tried to leave you and you wouldn’t let me” that was about her threatening to take her own life. So what kind of position did she put him in with that, she’s toxic
Crazy thing is, Tom is not telling a single lie in anything he says 😂 Ariana can’t even be honest about her ego getting to her which is clear as day just look at how she’s acting so holier than thou lol pretty soon everyone will get tired of her she’s overdoing it
Sandavol is so insufferable his voice is like nails on a chalk board. Swartz calling Arriana is diva with an ego is hilarious as if he’s not besties with the biggest narcissist on reality tv😂
Tom Sandoval is such a narcistic jerk. He has always been judgmental of other people in the past, but now that he's in the hotseat, he's making lots of excuses for himself. If he was so unhappy with Ariana he should have broken up with her. When he says that he tried but she wouldn't let him--I find that very hard to believe. Although I do not know Ariana, she does not strike me as a person who would say that to him. It's just another one of his BS excuses.
This is petty but someone like Schaena pretending she was ever "emo" in her life or that she has any idea what that music is about is infuriating as a former emo gal. Girls like Scheana were the ones to bully us in high school, and now that it's trendy to be nostalgic, there she is pretending she was ever part of it. And her voice... I have to mute every time she's speaking.
So Schena hears that Raquels in a mental health facility and desides to have a guy on to say private things about her? Regardless of what they've done that's shitty as fuck.
Swartz ur best friend is the biggest EGO of the group! Don't speak behind her back Sandoval u had nine years of this relationship n if u say it was her ego it's cus of u defending u all the time. Ppl seem to forget Ariana forgives ppl n stands up for the underdog always has. Scheana don't do this n start talking about her like this I can't stand this we support wat is right n then turn on the person? Let's not do that. Anyone else would of been fired for filming someone without their knowledge. Sandoval is disgusting for that period! Women need to stick together more n stop giving passes to men when their in the wrong.
She knows what it means. She has not moved on hate is a feeling. I was here once she's not the only women cheated on.He has been beaten to shit. Enough is Enough.
Shes so full of it and im so sick of her victim mentality. Shes not the first person to ever be cheated on, get over it and move on, there is no kids no marriage, let it go already
