Has Path of Titans surpassed the isle? 

Top ten isle moments (real)

Serious video at the beginning 😔

I hate the isle for not being everything it could and should be. I hate pot(supporters, really) for thinking in its wettest dream itll ever be close to being deserving to compare to TI as a actual dinosaur game(Its a glorified chatroom with dino skins. You can say otherwise, but Ive seen flash animations with more compelling combat..... The combat is so whack, to call it combat feels like a stretch. I really dont even know where to begin, but from picking flowers to grow, to the design encouraging mix packing.... Tbh, I guess its a bit of a community thing too. As bad as TI players are, they care about details and take what theyre doing somewhat seriously. Path players are just a bunch of carebears OR like an army of 12 yr olds playing on their phone during class just trying to gang up on everything) If path was content to just do its own thing(which to be fair is brought on by us, their communities, more than the games or devs themselves...... sort of..... I mean, darkest did FOR SURE steal tons of inspiration from his time making TI legacy, and while most of that was more "what do I want to change".... Idk.... I have almost no respect for Dondi, and plenty of complaints.... But.... If the game was great, I wouldnt care about any of the other stuff, and FOR its audience, its fine.... I play minecraft and never once think about roblox. TI is minecraft to pots roblox. 🤣 Clearly different games now. Roblox is just.... a little kid mess, as it was designed to be. Minecraft is classic, takes itself seriously. Is the source of alot of the original ideas for both even if now theyve become very different. I just wish the people working on minecraft(ti) would fix the performance issues, and finish the core loop with mating and stuff before working about more changes to the map and more changes to the existing playables, and 17 new playables, and humans and guns and hypo-dragon-mosnter-alien-godzilla-things I guess if I think about it part of what Im also mad about though is that clearly alot of work has gone into pot, and if darkest really does love dino sims and doesnt wana work on ti why not make it have the good parts of the isle instead of just being lazy and making easy to build and work on and make lots of money without working hard by catering to casuals and little kids. Its like... F dude... if your gonna make a whole new game, why not keep what they got right? But its whatever really.... Were all spoiled and were lucky to have either game. They both could be alot better though. TI needs to get over itself, focus on core issues, and listen to its players and market. POT is passed that point, but it would have been able to straddle the gap and appeal to everyone if it was a little more careful, a little less lazy(kinda also a form of not listening to their market, but really was a choice just to completely neglect and ignore like 1/2 of their potential market), and took itself more seriously (ironically, seeing how they effectively have opposing problems in this regard XD) Sorry for the novel, but thanks for the content! Hopefully both these games step it up a bit! Or else someone else finally sees all the meat on these bones and decides to really do the idea right! XD (FFS if we get another playable on TI before they worry about stability or nesting Im gonna sh00t an imaginary person in my head.... or probably just yell.... Ill be very frustrated)

On god

@@thomasinefitzpatrick cool comment sadly I only read 1/4 of it :D

That's very well put

Tbh realism suits more for Path of Titans. For an example how anky and para are down right treated horribly in the isle for barley having the ability to fight or run from it's main predators. While PoT allows most of the herbivores to fight equally or even surpass the carnivores in its region. And we all know herbivores are more dangerous than carnivores at their peak.

​@@Huntsman567Herbivores are very powerful in evrima. Whens the last time you played?

isn't the isle missing feathers on alot of species that should have them? as well as lips on theropods ?

@@AyeeRookie I think they mean realism in the mechanics, not the art style

Cough fanboy

i do agree, but i prefer the isles style over PoT

@@thegaminggman5597 if you prefer the isle then there is nothing wrong with that. I would play the isle if it was brought to consoles.

Eh.... In alot of games I agree about this sort of thing, but too much choice can be a curse. Just gonna spread the base around until everyone plays by themselves the EXACT way they want(and noone or almost noone else does) and the game will die quietly and organically We shall see though

@@thegaminggman5597the isle has a far superior art style but lacking most other aspects, it’s dying and loosing to another game that’s still in its infancy state.

Not to mention they have PVP servers which makes life so much more easier

When I think of The Isle, I think about the time I spent 7 hours in one sitting growing a therizinosaurus only to immediately trip down a small hill and die on my first walk as an adult. I would say I almost cried, but I didn't, I just felt.... empty lmfao

Looking forward to it 😃

I wanna see your opinion too, your vids are also great

just like slyced was with bary 😂

@ me when it drops I would like to enjoy thay

@ me as well, I want to watch 👍

Yeah its pretty simply amazing (if yk yk)

@@JustAnObody812the devs have banned the guy over and over again. He just keeps buying more accounts.

Exactly lol. The devs of POT are almost my favorite part of the entire project. I’ve never appreciated the concept of games being one big supporting community until now.

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Sadly, Dondi is only a fraction of the problem.

I also think a big part of it is the growth mechanic. People have a love hate relationship with it. But I think people love the idea of not loosing your whole Dino after death.

Isle legacy in its prime is 10x what PoT is, even tho what PoT are doing is so so commendable

Dinosaur quantity sure but variety? I mean i get that some dinos have some kind of special attack or whatever but as someone whos played path, all the dinos feel the same. Same gameplay different stats

Obnoxious to collect shellfish to grow lol

@@Do27gg tbh I disagree. It sempt that way because because pot didn’t exist back then. The isle had pretty much 0 competitors back then so you can’t really say it was better when there was nothing to compare it to in its prime. You personally can say that you had more fun in the isle when it was in its prime. But your personal experience doesn’t mean that it was better. It was only better for you.

in legacy rain helps keep your water from draining unless you are sprinting all the time.. which in legacy you don't want to do due to fights

@@Double-Rainbow- ya I know that now hahaha. The point I am making is that I was new to the game and didn’t know that stuff. For a week I would just spawn at night when it was raining. I didn’t know there was ai or if the ai could attack me. So when my hunger would go down I would hear the ai and would be scared shitless thinking they were other players.

Also I think the fact there’s no more covid lockdown means people are less willing to spend hours growing a Dino that you can lose instantly. That’s how I feel anyways

@@Do27gg yeah exactly. The isles growth may be shorter on paper but in reality you’ll most likely die 15 minutes after hitting adult, if you even make it there. I think the isles environment is much more harsh than PoT. Tbh I wouldn’t mind the loss of the Dino as a death penalty if you didn’t have to spend 6 hours of sitting in a chair to get it back. But the isle needs to move on from that nonsense, In Pot you just loose a small amount of growth and in BoB you loose the whole Dino’s yeah but growth only takes like 30minutes- an hour in that game.

@@KingslayaJ yeah the isle is pushing the realism too much I think and forgetting games are meant to be fun. The diet system really puts me off and it’s hard enough to stay alive. Altho I like the idea of making you do things whilst growing. I think if an apex was like 2 hours it would perfect, just enough to have to earn it but not long enough that it makes you want to jump off a cliff when you lose it. There’s probs a place for both games as they’re kinda different enough

If you have to wait until you can play because of growth system, then it's pretty badly done and unrealistic because scientifically the growth stages of different dinosaurs filled different niches in the ecosystem.

@@danielmalinen6337 yeah but that’s an issue with all dinosaur survivals. You can’t really use that to criticize a game if none of them remedied that issue.

Factual.

On points.

The isle will surpass any dino game, eventually you'll see. Might take some time, but the devs are cooking

@@Diobotlol I highly doubt that but hey keep rooting for them

​​@@t0xt878only thing i like about the isle is the animations otherwise its bland imo

It really has, such a wasted potential, I like PoT but it's a different game than the isle, the isle aims to be realistic which I love and PoT is more like an mmo, which for me is meh, but the problem is, PoT has great devs and the isle has asshole devs which even protected a pedo once, I hate them with passion

they never "protected a pedo" when Dondi was notified of what was going on, he suspended the guy and wanted receipts before he crucified this guy. especially in Discord when its a "He said, she said" setting. aside from that dondi has made it abundantly clear he doesnt give a shit about the isle, and we could all tell before he even openly stated in his live streams a while back when he was showcasing Dibble progress.

The Isle still better

@@lexizzedit when it works lol

@@lexizzedit love ur pfp

Pot is a completely different game to isle imo

Absolutely, I remember doing that as well it is crazy how much pot has progressed compared to the isle in similar amounts of time

​@@Do27ggcompletely different as in its optimized well for multiple consoles. An does the same thing as the isle but also has other options.. it has a realism mode it's called Official. If you just wanna have fun an not deal with that well there's community made servers that have strict realism servers as well that are overseen by admis an moderators of the server owners choosing... The isle is only different because it does one thing an it does it poorly lol Pot is different because it does multiple things well.

@@GokuBlack-bj3xl nah it’s just a different game, only thing in common is it’s dinosaurs and mainly played on pc

​@@Do27ggIt's an open world pvp dinosaur survival game. That pretty dang specific, without going into all of temhe overlapping mechanics.

Nesting is a stretch goal mechanic, so it will be added to the game. It's not on top of their priority list (which has the engine update, new game modes and quest system overhaul) but it's guaranteed due to people having paid to get that mechanic added. But as a side note, in PoT you're not supposed to only group with your own species. The grouping system is based on having different species in herds and packs, especially after the additions of Achi and Rhampy. Mixpacking is often not allowed on community servers due to old ideas from The Isle that mixpacking is op and wrong, but it's an intended game mechanic in PoT.

Im a bit concern that they dont talk about dino AI in PoT anymore. I hope they will work on it again, one day

Tbh your comment kinda seems like you’re trying to find some dirt on pot that isn’t there. Pot has a great and easy to use chat system with both, group chat, local chat, and global chat. It even has a built in friend system. The game has no issues in the social department. I’ll admit that they haven’t added nesting yet but I won’t throw shade on it until it’s actually added. The grouping in PoT isn’t really even that bad idk what you’re getting at there. You just group up with herbis or carnis. If it’s a big carni then it takes up more space in the group in order to balance out groups. Does it do anything to fix mix packs or mega packs? No. But no survival is free of fault from those 2 things.

@@SkuddeOuounless it’s herbivores and carnivores. But carni on carni and herbi on herbi is fine.

​@@taz3810they did test out the patty ai for being aggressive. I think they found some things to smooth out so that's why it's quiet for now. They do at least test things in order to see if there is problems and fix the major ones before releasing it to public

Even though they're both open world dinosaur survival games based on player to player interaction. Nah they are incredibly comparable, especially given pot was started by ex TI devs.

Sounds like layers of skill issues(not that there arent legitimate complaints underneath those)

​@@thomasinefitzpatrickNo, sounds like a horribly optimized game actually. I also have spent more time trying to get the isle, an early access game for almost a decade that's had engine transitions and multiple overhauls, to even run on my PC, which has no issues running any other game in my library save known troublemakers. The fact that the game runs like garbage at this stage of development is inexcusable - so stop making excuses for it.

@@eewweeppkk Lol. It can be both, and you can just need to get a new machine to be able to play taxing games. Those can both be(and are clearly) true here

This is sort of true, although they have done alot of really legitimately great work at this point... Theyre just avoiding core issues, ignoring the criticisms and player base, and using that legitimate great work to pretend that there are no deeper issues and keep people going long enough to have time to worry about that later. This is a horrible strategy that usually fails, except.... sometimes it doesnt. Its also the method all the leading world governments are using to run their countries, and as much as we should have had 8 collapses 30 years ago, somehow technology continues to improve so much that if they can keep kicking the can down the road.... eventually the rubber will meet and grip again, without having stepped back or taken their foot once off the pedal. I love TI and couldnt play pot if I tried. I also hate TI and the devs and the community XD But all else aside, your super right. Even if TI has come up with some cool and clever stuff, the concept could easily be scalped and reskinned.... You cant claim ownership of ideas you took from nature, even if you did figure out somewhat clever ways to implement them If someone who isnt a joke like Dondi or Darkest actually made a real game seriously, overnight both these games would die and the new one would have the whole market and alot more normies too

@@thomasinefitzpatrick fr TI has so much potential dondi just to much of a clown to see it

@@raccon1007 Well, part of the problem is I think some of the legitimate good vision comes from Dondi. But I mean some. And most of the bad also comes from him too. But he has too much control and too much of an ego. Hopefully as he gets older hell chill out a bit. Frankly I think hes got a few talented people working for him and if he stepped back a little alot of good would get done. While I say all this and think Dondi is a total clown and ass and at this point more of a liability than an asset, I do think even his controlling garbage BS has been good for the game, preventing it from branching too many directions, losing vision and focus from having too many cooks in the kitchen.... But at this point, I think hes got some talent and probably scared away everyone who wasnt already somewhat in harmony for the original tone and vision(as far as survival aspects go.... the guns and mutants and everything has always been essentially like a sperate game, and a bad idea for TI, imo) IMO they need to give up on his fetish of guns and mutant dinos and everything else(or consider that like an expansion project or something, which would make more sense financially too, besides just the court of public opinion) Focus on stability and optimization. As networks improve and tech does, if you make it run 20% better in two or three years peoples pcs and the network will also improve enough stability wouldnt (need to)be a chronic or even existing issue. FINISH THE GAMEPLAY LOOP NESTING ELDER SYSTEM if they did just that, they could not put anything new out for years and rake cake. If they did that and just cleaned up the maps, made the old maps available, and finished like 5-10 more dinos with attention to icons like rex, trike, anky, spino, and some sort of long necked giant.... If they did that, theyd corner the dino market and go mainstream and not have to make any new content ever again(But could easily, including things like dondis hunting dinos and mutants fetish, which could be a cool game, and one Id probably play, but not as a replacement for or instead of TI as a dino survival game itself) Imo Bob is fine and has its place, but the foundational design choices they made will never allow me personally to enjoy it or take it seriously. The movement alone in that game is.... unbearable to me

​@thomasinefitzpatrick I agree, zero mutants dinos, except maybe 1 or 2 roaming ai "monsters" to put apexes in check. The one and only experiment that made the island and its human project collapse into catastrophe. Would fit the lore. Guns would be ok, but very limited, they have to find them and they dont respawn very often. The humans should basically just be primitive and are only successful working in teams and being very smart about what they do but, usually just get murdered by raptors and anything bigger than that. They wanted this to be horror game, well being a human on an island with dinosaurs would be just that, a terrifying experience the moment you step outside your damp dark hole, with a 99% chance your dead when you do.

Beautiful? The whole game looks like a fucking cartoon. There’s no real good lighting effects.

Yeah Path is beautiful, they added awesome underwater effects recently

@@curse7469 Nah I disagree. Look it’s just not my style of game. But the Game itself hurts my eyes physically cause of how bright it is

So you like spending tens of hours doing mindless repetitive quests where you gather acorns, flowers and mushrooms, what does that have to do with being a dinosaur?

The reason pot feels like an mmo is because it is one

@@Sage7Plays exactly so it’s completely different to the isle

I agree! POT just feels. Bland. There’s no risk or thrill factor to it

Same shit different plate

I 100% agree

​@@MoofUrtosWell, the choice is yours, no one is forcing you to play the Isle

I wouldn't call PoT's combat "better", it's completely different, but that doesn't make it better, if someone likes one over the other it's a personal preference.

@@alunaticwithashotgun9840not different at all

@@astra3202 Pretty much the only thing they have in common is that you play as dinosaurs, everything past that is completely different.

Play realism 👍

I like the feel of TI's combat, PoT's PvP system feels too basic

Less toxic game? If you play comm servers then yeah

@@JustAnObody812 yeah lol I want mods, plus the community is just better than the isles

@@JustAnObody812 Once you see description like "growing is less boring" you can be sure they are talking about community servers. I would take The Isle officials anytime over the PoT ones even with all the hackers and mixpackers. But when it comes to unofficial servers, PoT has much better tools to provide exp for players. The Isle is going to get some love in that department too though, we will see how it will be handled.

I thought PoT was less toxic but from my experience it’s been worse than the Isle. More likely to run into mix packing super groups that kill anyone on sight

@AA-vi1cc yeah that's why I play community servers. Also I didn't think it would be possible but I think ive been called the hard R and homophobic slurs more on isle than any other game and I played R6 on Xbox for 5 years

I run evrima at 60 fps max setting on a 2060 super😭 like yeah the isle has optimization issues which they constantly fix. But it also is your machine as well

This is probably the sanest comment I’ve seen on here, respect. I wish more people could acknowledge that it’s okay to like something and still admit that it has room for improvement.

One is open world survival other is MMORPG

socializing and unlocking abilities.... calling pot survival.... If you die, is your character dead for good? HARDLY a survival game

@thomasinefitzpatrick on official it's just mindless fighting, on community I play on servers where u die, ur back to a baby

@thomasinefitzpatrick survival as in needing to find food an water lmao Name another survival game that has a perma-death system. I'll wait. The survival is in the immersion of needing to find food an water before starving to death.. after you die why would it matter if you start from 0 or 100? You still didn't survive an are restarting. You're clearly confusing growth with survival.

@@GokuBlack-bj3xl one hour one life Also your a imbe sile(youtube spelling, for sure)

mind you, it is somewhat documented that the isle did pay some content creators so they would sh-t on path of titans (the earlier days)

Who’s Bob? It’s not Ark’s Bob i think so who? 😅

@@wietse9673 Beasts of Bermuda, the other dinosaur survival game

Bob made too many weird design choices early on. Its an alright(ish) game(IF your into that sort of thing) but is just too strange for most people to even want to try(and thats for the best because its not a good game for most people for those reasons)

@@wietse9673Beasts Of Bermuda lmao

As a follow up, I don't understand the intense focus on realism and immersion, you can immerse yourself into Path quite well, and realism isn't a thing no matter how much you tell me it is in The Isle when you have amphibious ominvorous Beipaosaurus, fatherless maniraptorans, shrink-wrapping, and "eventually" the Strains and Cannibals

People are complaining about growth mechanics in POT for YEARS, about those boring repetitive quests everybody hates, and they haven't changed it.

And I do like PoT way more in every way but I can’t deny the very very good immersion that the isle has

Oh god, you triggered HORRIBLE memories. Sea Monsters was soooo hard to control on the DS. It’s mechanics were criminal!