Clubs are pathetic and weak. Stand firm, refuse the player’s trade request and tell them they can get on with their job or sulk in the twos for three years. Harden the fk up and take a stand.
@@himalayanhealthhut6656 You obviously never heardof restraint of trade. A player has a legal right to beak a contract. If this was ever tested in a court the AFL would lose and they know it. It is about the right of an EMPLOYEE toply his or her trade. There is no such thing as player power. Stop the BS
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous the heat that has been put on us this year. As a Richmond fan I want to win every week but I also understand that we had a era of dominance 3 flags in 4 years and this was coming it always does when you are up at the top for so long. I would rather have what we had then say a Geelong because yes Chris Scott is clearly a great coach but minority of the time Geelong as just there making up the numbers every year apart from 2022. It was hard to blood youngsters and hard to get good draft picks in the last 7 years. The media need to give it a spell 😂 if we are still rubbish in 3/4 years time fair enough. Isn’t this the whole point of the draft system though? So no 1 team can stay at the top forever? I can die happy saying I saw my team win 3 grand finals out of 3 we made and that I saw the greatest ever finals player to ever exist.
Totally agree with both comments sometimes Lloyd is an absolute dimbat, when he gets it right he gets it right but when he just throws ridiculous statements around he gets it so so so wrong! As for the Tiges give us a few yrs then have a dig, the scale of injuries was on a level like no other for poor Yze and add seniors with their heads out the door already we can only go up from here at least.
Geelong fan here. I disagree with your assessment on The Cats to an extent. Four premierships since 2007 from 6 grand finals, multiple prelims and only missing finals twice. That’s a whole lot of joy over a very long period with minimal disappointment. Yes, Richmond was great during their premiership years, and as a footy fan I loved watching the Tiges during that era, but it’s hard to argue that they’ve been mostly terrible since 1981. I’d rather Geelong’s record anytime, but each to their own. 👍
Probably needed another 1-2 years from Hardwick starting the rebuild so a new coach doesn’t get left like this. What can yze do right now until the dust settles
Cant believe they are still ripping taranto. Hopper was a terrible trade in and is way over paid but taranto won the bnf in his first yr at a new club and has been injured a lot this year. Saying "what a disappointment hes been" is crazy lordo. Taranto is in his right to asked to be traded again the way hes been done dirty. And im a dees supporter. He got promisee the world now look at them
Why is our sporting code the only one in the world we hear players wanna go home, their homesick and all this nonsense, other codes players seem to live internationally just fine. I'm a freo fan also, it's just become a joke.
cause other sports players make enough to move there entire family across the state/world with them, if afl player where paid millions a year then sure but when there on 500k contract they dont see it as enough money to move away.
Name me one player in their 20s that went back to their home country due to home sickness. Ill be waiting, I'm not talking soccer players who go home to play to finish of their career's, I'm talking players in their 20s, most international soccer plays leave home in their early teens and mive to different countries
Id be excited as if I was a tigers fan, getting potentially 4-5 first round picks in trades in a super deep midfielder draft. Fast track a rebuild before tassy comes in easily. Bolten has been a massive miss, Baker is a gun but if he wants out get as much as you can for him
don't offer long term contracts...simple. instead of signing a player for 7 yrs and they want out after 3 - offer 3 yrs with options to extend ( player would need to honest at end of second year - and tell club their intentions to leave or have a further discussion on extension ) There has to be a middle ground some how. I don't think it's fair on the player to have so much power, but on the flip side - the NFL, NBA type of thing where a club can just ship you off to another club of their choosing is not a fair outcome either.
The "go home" phenomena in the AFL is so bizarre. I'm not from Australia, so I don't even understand how it got to the point it's at. A contract is a contract, the end. While they're at it, something has to be done about how teams go and talk to players on other teams about defecting and joining them. They have a contract! That's tampering in any other sports league in the world, and if it's done anywhere else, the league punishes the crap out of it - invalidates contracts, takes away draft privileges, enormous fines. If you're on Club A, stick to your lane and don't be talking to anyone from Club B. But in the AFL, it's completely lawless. I'm gonna go negotiate a new deal with a player you just signed for six years, he's going to cry about being too far away from mommy, and everyone's going to carry on without ever calling out the corruption. It's a horrible look on the sport.
I have a contract at my work, but if someone offers me something better I can resign and take up a job somewhere else. I don't see you would think this an issue for footballers. CEOs and business leaders usually have terms and long-term contracts for their role, and through mutual agreement they get pay-outs and move to lead different companies all the time. I get that people have a emotional investment in their football club (and I'd advocate for some sort of financial penalty on the player's next contract if they're breaking their current one) but you can't stop someone wanting to move. This is a reality in all walks of life.
By any measure I can think of, players are free agents from the moment they're drafted. They say whether they're going to stay or go, they say where they're going to go, and they get to negotiate services despite their services being under contract to someone else. There's not many sports leagues in the world where I feel sorry for the owners, but teams just don't have any control of their fate in the AFL. And don't even get me started on the father-son nonsense.
Petracca is not going to be at Melbourne next year; no chance. If he needs some tips, he should phone Jason Horne-Francis. Or maybe just watch Harley Reid surf back to Victoria on a wave of "my birthday was so sad so far away from home" tears. All I'm saying is, this crap does not happen in any other sport. Full-grown adult men act like men, not toddlers. You're drafted, the club has control of you for at least 5 years followed by restricted control, nobody is allowed to talk/bribe you into leaving, and if you don't like it, your option is retiring. It allows bottom teams to compete and keeps leagues fair. Some days, I wonder why even have a draft in the AFL; just let teams go offer whatever they want to whoever they want and enforce a salary cap. At least then, it's above-board and honest.
Surely the next cba should allow player in top 25% of earner to be traded without consent…even up the power a bit. I’m against just sending the bottom half or earners being traded without consent
Having kids with no family support can be completely overwhelming. It is a joke that businesses think they own people, and we have fans backing that idea.
hope they bring up the injuries. not a good enough excuse for winning the wooden spoon. that is genuinely pathetic from our group of players and coaches but even if we did go at 100% each week and each of our players played as good as they could, the injuries would've ruined us. as shown by a lot of games when we had less injuries and played at 100% i.e sydney game...
the best players should be signing a one year contract only. If their current club does not agree, plenty of others will & they could demand more money if form warrants it. Eliminates any contract issues totally.
Is this a normal part of Aussie sports? You don’t really see too many guys jus request trades in North America for being home sick. And it likely wouldn’t be just listened to either if there was no good trade value out there for the player Seems here if guys ask out they usually get it?
there is a difference between $400k contracts and $40M contracts, though. I imagine if AFL players were getting even $5M/year this would be far less of a thing. Clubs often force players out against their will, too. Look after yourself in your job is what I'd say, kudos to the player who ask for what they want imo
Should see how harsh the contracts are in the nfl and the nba. Here they are too leninat with contracts. Anyone or anyclub that has had to deal with a contract break is not right on the club or the fans. If you sign a contract you should know and follow exactly what that contract entails if you dont agree with it then dont frickan sign it. The financial consequences should be huge as well
Until you get injured in sport you don’t realise how much it’s team>squad. If you aren’t in the team you’re a supporter. You don’t keep in touch with injured players as they aren’t at training every day, they aren’t in the change rooms on game day. They aren’t in the team and as a result you lose contact.
Also, he might be struggling with his mental health and doesn't want everyone knowing about it. Not everything is everyone else's business. Stop being nosey.
It’s fine when a player wants to go home back to a vic club. When it’s the other way around there’s a massive problem and the players have too much pOwEr
This is what people outside Victoria hate about victorians in the AFL. Richmond is bottom of the ladder, likely 2 wins compared to West Coast's 3 wins last year. Yet excuses and concerns for the Tigers and still talking about West Coast as the worst team and critical remarks.
It’s laughable these media gurus put their head in the sand and ignore that’s it’s the afl rules and culture that create this, long term contracts are to keep leverage so they get adequate compensation, coaches and clubs can’t say they are rebuilding because everyone loses it, why cannot people see this is the system that creates it, why finish 9th and get pick 10 when you can get a pick in the top couple and get a quality player, either change the system or accept the model does my head in how we just dance around the issue, like player power if team wants to move you like the NBA so be it, it’s a privilege not a right to play, then don’t get me started on the Geelong and Sydney model, these two teams have won one flag since 2012 , one flag in 25 years, you can’t have a dynasty with this model, but full respect to them how they stay relevant from a business point of view but that aight equalling premiership clubs at the end of the day
If a player is under contract and requests a trade the club has the right to refuse and then if the player ops to sit out then they should be fined for each compulsory team meeting, training or game missed. Just like the NFL
So the clubs will then not restrict a player once out of contract and let him leave? Also, the clubs shouldn't try to get contracted players from other clubs then, either.
Norm Smith curse continues: "It will be many, many years before Melbourne will play in the finals again, let alone become a force. And it will be a long, long time before Melbourne wins another premiership."
A contract is a contract isn't it? Good or bad, you're part of the team you sign yourself to? Also, why should the new club a player goes to help flip the bill for a unfulfilled contract? Maybe stop offering the big long term contracts.
Firstly, has your club got contracted players from other clubs? Secondly, has your club sacked your coach while still under contract? Should work both ways, meaning clubs can't trade for players or sack coaches.
Alright for you Matthew LLoyd you played where your family was. Seriously for an 18 year old it is a big step moving away from family.. Luke Jackson was not on their list as well.
Amusing the VFL media are outraged now while championing it when players left non Victorians to go back to Victoria. One day we will get a national media for our national comp of our national game. One day.
What IS that hairdo, Sam? What do you sit down and ask for? Just cannot work it out. Its like a wet janitors mop thats been flippin back, then given the ends a trim. “Yeah, can have the flipped back jannys mop with a trim , please.”
coaches should not be able to talk to contracted players i bet you any money hardwick was talking poaching rioli a required player while under contract....shia is a required player but for family reasons i would let him go Dion , baker , jack let them go they average players they always turn over the ball......Kamdyn McIntosh, Noah Cumberland, are gone as well....
Hardwick is one of the most unethical people in modern day football....he used that club and then destroyed it on his way out. I don't get how he can sleep at night....
