Has Russell T. Davies Turned DOCTOR WHO Into "Degenerate Art"? - Debunking A Literal Nazi 

Some people just think they are so right that they say things that they don’t even know aren’t true

​​@@Shazampoolkind of like saying ncuti is the best actor after only two okish episodes, fans say this about every doctor

@@davidblyth6886 that wasn’t really what I meant I was talking about Ncuti as a person not a Doctor and how some people just want to see the show fail purely because they don’t like something about it I don’t want to have an argument just trying to make what I said less ambiguous

I don't think he actually watches the show

@@Tymbus probably not

Cuz views, son. No one’s gonna watch his videos if he talks about stuff he likes.

@@samuelbarber6177 I suppose that’s it. And don’t call me son, I’m a woman.

@@Lia-zw1ls7tz7o my mistake

@@samuelbarber6177 It's okay, we all make them. ☺

@@Andrew-Vegemite98 to be fair, Bowelstrek does call out Mr Tardis directly in his Doctor Who videos so he has a right to respond.

It's not surprising that these toxic angry misogynists can't maintain healthy relationships with anyone, especially women. But, of course, to them, it's all the women's fault, and of course "feminism". No, they're just @$$holes, who no one wants to be around. They congregate online in the worst possible ways, bringing out and encouraging the worst in each other. This is pattern with these extremists.

Free content as they say in the biz

He’s like Alex Jones. Even if he did have something of worth to say, his way of saying it should disqualify him alone.

He's the very definition of a useful idiot

Agreed. By trying to debunk Bowltrek you are only enabling him by allowing him to spread his Hatred. The best way to deal with him is to IGNORE him.

@josephcooter5763 that makes zero sense if people didn't debunk this retarded shit people would believe it because there is no one to push back just ignoring shit doesn't help in anyway but keep digging your head in the sand I guess

Sorry not to be rude here or anything that's not my intention, when was this mentioned in the video? just wondering.

@@Acknowledgerofdoctorwho Bowlstrek was claiming that the Doctor Who Experience cost the BBC a million pounds. That's why MrTARDIS went on about how much money the show made for the local economy. While it may have lost money its last year, it made tons more its first 6 years in two locations.

@@DavidHHH99 Ohh ok.

All I remember from his earlier eras was him complaining about the initial posters featuring Jodie in that field where he said it looked like “Doctor Who Goes To Elf Land” whatever the heck that means

As the show became more and more sick until it died.

Yeah what is it about that voice of snide condescention that wannabe Fascists find so alluring?

​@@lloroshastar6347It's definitely a recurring trope of facism. I can think of a certain German dictator who quite famously spoke with that kind of tone.

Usually a holiday comes AFTER doing some work though...

Going by his positive reviews of DW DVDs on his channel from almost a decade ago, I highly doubt that was the case to begin with.

You're all just playing into his hands. Just ignore him.

Whilst I appreciate the sentiment, the fact of the matter is, Bowlestrek still does his grifting videos, with or without people like Mr TARDIS. He doesn't need us to make money. Mr TARDIS himself has stated that he's not going after Bowlestrek, he's going after his fans, to show them another point of view, and try to win them over. And you know what? Whenever I see a comment on any of his videos from people who were former NMDs, until they watched Mr TARDIS' videos, and he helped pull them out of the Alt-Right rabbit hole, I applaud him, and encourage him to keep up the good work.

I've often wondered about this, that the trouble is left wing RU-vidrs, the likes of Vaush etc. who do these kind of response videos, are in some respect ultimately reinforcing the very political binary and eco system that keeps people like Bowlestrek relevant

Capaldi was the furthest thing of a mix between classic and new. Dude was a mid-life crisis gone mad

Sorry but in what moment The Doctor show a gay moment?

@@mayotango1317bro totally forgot the way 10 cradled the Master in his arms while he was dying, with such passion and care🤣 (don’t forget 9 and Jack’s flirting too lmaooo)

@@mayotango1317Also with Time Lords having the possibility of regenerating into a man or woman at any point, wouldn’t all Time Lords have to be somewhat sexually fluid?? Would be a major design flaw if not lol

@@sp0ngeb00b7 To be honest, that explain why they are so asexual.

Hell, if Highlanders wasn’t lost we’d have seen an episode where Patrick Troughton spent most of it in a dress

@@mrcritical6751 In the Tom Baker era there's an episode where the Brigadier does the whole episode in a kilt, the Loch Ness episode. Guess that's degenerate too.

@@professorcurious Loved The Green Death. I don't think it was a dress but rather cleaning overalls that the Doctor used as a disguise. Same goes for the gypsy costume the Second Dr used. The Brig was simply dressed in his clan attire. I don't think Bowlestrek has ever had a problem with any of these. Not that I'm aware of anyway.

@@mekonta Three disguised himself as a woman and did a woman's voice. He stole the Master's thing that episode and did a bunch of disguises. According to Bowelstreks review of the Goblin episode, kilts are degeneracy so the Brig wearing his clan kilt makes him a degen by Bowelstreak's metric.

@@professorcurious That's right, he did pretend to be a cleaning lady as a disguise. I can't see why you would think the Doctor disguising falls into some degenerate category though? I haven't listened to that claim about kilts, so I can't comment on it. What was his exact quote to bring him to that conclusion?

I always point to Frontier In Space, that episode would make Bowelstrek have an aneurism if it were released today

@@mrcritical6751 Great story btw, until it became a rehash of The Daleks 1963 rip

Another example I’d give is Enemy of The World. If you took that script now, zero changes and made it today it would be seen as the BBC attacking Trump

@@mrcritical6751 Perhaps but I believe that you could say the same thing about the Happiness Patrol.

*looks at how Disney treated The Owl House* yep…Disney’s totally run by degenerates and not homophobes pretending to be allies for the brownie points

They hate Disney. I once read a book called “Disney The Mouse Betrayed” it hilarious

OK, you cannot fight misinformation with misinformation.Walt Disney was no more racist than anyone else in the f**** 40s.Disney isn't racist?It's capitalist it will Do whatever makes money It was also hitler who had an obsession with disney not the other way around because hitler was a weirdo

😂 ''Coming to a theatre near you, soon. Toilet Bowl... A man on a mission to commit acts of violence on your thoughts and feelings. Certificate 12A. See press for details''

Honestly to god surprised he hasn’t already

😆'Toilet Bowl'... ''Coming to a theatre near you soon, the story of a man on a mission to commit acts of violence on the minds and feelings of Doctor Who fans. Certificate 12A. See press for details.''

Dont forget Ben Shapiro

I believe it’s called the Gish Gallop

As @idle_speculation said, it's called "Gish-galloping". It's not so much a fallacy as a crude technique of drowning any chance of rebuttal by spouting a torrent of words.

Compared to now it’s almost subtle… Almost.

@@borjankosarac3645 Always good to have a bit of variety. 😆

Bizarre

Probably the same reason.Velma is getting a second season.Hate watching

I quite like Who Views. What do you find bad about them?

"A Nazi is when Socialism because NSDAP" - nobody here falls for that line because we are educated.

If you're using the hyper-literal meaning of "Nazi" as "A German political activist in the 1930s and 40s who is a card carrying member of the National Socialist Party" then you are correct. But we all know that not all uses of the word "Nazi" are as hyper-literal.

Why are you defending Nazis?

Sure Helen lovejoy, only thing you're proving is you're way too old for a kids show. Its thankfully not the 70s anymore grandpa, the stories back then were worse, you honestly trying to say something like nimon or underworld were better?

That's a misunderstanding of what he said. It's understandable, since the alt-right have been misrepresenting what he said ever since to try to pretend that he agrees with them. (Validation is very important to that crowd.) He actually criticized many writers for only tangentially addressing diversity, and not committing to the follow through. Or, in other words, he criticized them for not being woke enough, or at least not committed to following through on it.

@@DavidHHH99 ahhh right. my bad haha. in my defence, it does sound like something russell would say 😂 thanks for clearing that up

@@MrGreaves An example Russell used was Valkyrie and others in the MCU, where they basically said in interviews that the character was bi, but then did literally nothing with it on screen. Basically, trying to seem like you're promoting diversity, but not actually making it relevant to the story and cowardly backing down on it, as soon as there's any pushback from the usual forces. He was saying that they should commit to showing the depth of these diverse characters, and shouldn't just do it to look or feel good. (What the alt-right would call virtue signaling.) They should commit to it. But, of course, the alt-right - who are so bizarrely desperate to have their points of view amplified by the celebrities that they rage about to try to help them not look like the bigots that they are actively lied and misrepresented what he said so people would believe that he was promoting their point of view that diversity is bad. Their desperation for validation is bizarre and pathetic. Anyone who has actually watched his shows or listened to his interviews would have realized how absurd their lies were.

@@DavidHHH99 I very much do agree. I think Disney just includes certain characters to “be diverse” without actually caring about said cultures or diversity. Which annoys me to no end. I think it’s incredibly harmful and boosts the alt-right because they get to “justify” that these characters are shallow, “degenerate”, etc. And I think Russell (mostly) handles this very well in his own work - giving characters genuine soul and showcase of their personality. Buuuut.. I do have to wonder how caring Russell truly is about this stuff when he allows sexual misconduct on his sets, shooting down any claims against it and actively engaging with these deviants online.. while also encouraging consumerism and capitalism. I respect a lot of what the guy has to say and what he writes, It’s A Sin and Years & Years especially… but I’m not all too fond of his handling of topics that stretch beyond the LGBTQ+ community. But that’s just me, I could be wrong about it all of course.

@@MrGreaves Don't make excuses for bigots. They call all LGBTQ people degenerate, regardless. As to "sexual misconduct", we're talking about a different time, where the only "misconduct" was a hot guy who whipped it out on occasion as a playful joke. Like it or not, there are lots of workplace environments where that kind of behavior is considered acceptable. I've worked in them. Luckily, we know better now, and don't tolerate that kind of behavior any more at work. I'm not making excuses for it, but it's not like we're talking about actual sexual assault here. And it's certainly doesn't justify the kind of naked bigotry we're seeing from the alt-right. But bigots and extremists don't need justification. Their bigotry IS their justification. But we need to stop making excuses for them.

Wasn’t he the guy who said the guy Chibnall hired to be a new composer, was making music that sounded like a kid slamming their hands on a keyboard?

Peter cushing is hear? [Ìf my joke falls flat i will regenerate]

@@plantainsame2049 I'm not sure about your new nose

@Tymbus The hard part is the stigma in the eye which makes one of my eyes better than the other.So it calls us me to constantly focus on the right half of my nose[ This is something I actually deal with]

@@plantainsame2049 so your regeneration didn't help?

@Tymbus No apparently some things are always constant Like the How the doctor Left in the body for too long.We'll always end up with long hair and a three peice suit Or the master will end up in black with a beard And I end up with poor vision

Nazis: Claim to hate degeneracy Also Nazis: Their minister of propaganda uses the casting couch

when you let toxicity run rife with no pushback, it only ever gets worse, not better.

No, it's the part when he blames the Jews for there being too many black and queer people in 'Doctor Who'.

I think it comes naturally I think he is just born vile and hateful

It comes with a desire to make money. His angrier videos always get more views.

@@HOTD108_ Hatred is foolish and love is always wise. Someone has to teach him that.

The whole point is to make them more and more unhinged until they do bad things. Steve Bannon: “You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump.”

@@DavidHHH99 I am sure that's true. My worry is that these characters have undermined progress towards a kinder, better, more respectful society and that behind a lot of this , as you mention Gamergate, is a concerted effort by Russia to destabalize Western democracies

@@Tymbus That's exactly what they intend to do. And it's exactly why Russia and China amplify their voices on social media. Willing accomplices.

@@DavidHHH99 Yep.

Or ball strike

Name a single lie I said in this video.

That's the best bit about it.

Calling someone who believes diversity is a Jewish conspiracy a Nazi is not labelling, it's accurately describing them.

@@bookswithike3256 calling anyone a nazi in the 21st century makes the label lose its true meaning. Look at a history book. It’s disgusting regardless of the context. It’s like calling someone a racist because they don’t like religion.

It's not disgusting when there's no meaningful distinction

@@tylerbailey9329 so if I called you nazi because i differ in opinion to you, that makes it okay does it?

@@SmithicusMedia No, but if I call you a Nazi for subscribing to the same insane conspiracy theories that founded Nazism I don't see how that's really an issue.

It was a term used readily by the nazis, sure they didn't invent the term, but it was still a nazi term

It is categorically correct.

@@MrTARDIS not really... if you do something only for your own sick pleasure (disregarding your own health and the people around them) your a degenerate, (as in someone who does that that you lol) and saying calling anyone a degenerate is a nazi doesn't look very Good Mr Tardis. Uh on a better note it is impressive it has taken you 6 years to make a bad take of any kind talking about ballsacks 💀👍🏼

​@@MrTARDIS The word pre dates nazis it comes from the latin degeneratus...also if calling someone who jerks it to cheese pizza in their mothers basement is a degenerate is fascism ill shave my moustache and call myself A-dilf Shitler.

​@@MrTARDIS off what category...? It comes from the Latin word degenaratus, just because the nazis used it doesn't mean it's a nazi word, if that was your bases of calling something fascist then... Vielleicht hast du recht, wer weiß.