Has Samsung perfected the flip phone? - Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5 

THIS! I used Labs so I could use other apps.

They always show how little they know about the phones they "review". It's like all they're doing is read the spec sheet.

I get its just an unboxing, but is it that hard to check on features like this? Plus there were moments hey referred to the flip5 as the flip4, not a huge deal but just seems unprofessional

@kb24theMVP They get review units early and film before launch. They didn't look at other reviewers either out of respect to their own unfiltered opinions, or this was filmed before embargo lifted. Since they only knew what the manufacturer told them, they must not have gone searching through the settings. Sometimes, the spec sheet is all they have over a phone.

So you have to make an effort to use it like a normal phone where as with the razer plus it just works? You have to be pretty brand loyal to defend a anti consumer choice like that. Making the consumer do the work to make something work when the razer just works. Ya no.

Just look at the razer. The razer just works without having to do extra work. Why would a consumer want to do extra work because they were too lazy to just make it work without effort. Ya think the average consumer will ever do that? No. The complaints are valid.

I agree, I think it affects their credibility and reputation. When videos don't contain accurate information too many times, it reduces the value of their videos as I'd go elsewhere with a better reputation first.

​@@doomy_doomy2225good lock is an official app by Samsung. It's the only app The average person should know about😂

From the PoV of a consumer, the good lock and labs workaround is a hassle and many people won’t know. For enthusiasts that’s important. I agree they should do a thorough research but maybe their TG is different?

​@doomy_doomy2225 Some apps look broken on both the Razer and Flip hence why Samsung didn't want to give it to everybody because most normal people would complain

Do note that the android version on samsungs is older than the pixel equivalent of that year (which launch with the new version), so I'd still consider it about equal.

​@@leonro It's a little confusing due to staggered release dates, but IMHO going by release year isn't a good method as Pixels are released in October while the equivalent Samsungs are released in Feb. e.g. the Pixel 7 which was released in Oct 2022 will stop at Android 16. But the S23 which was released just four months later will stop at Android 17. So for nearly this whole year so far, if you bought a flagship Samsung instead of a flagship Pixel, you'd be getting an extra major version update over the Pixel. There is only the four-month window between Oct and Feb where buying a flagship Pixel would get you an extra major version update over a flagship Samsung.

@@veryboringname. I was thinking more along the lines of a Samsung Flip vs Pixel, though the Pixel fold will last even less and it's a more comparable device.

Apple still supports the iPhone 7, which came out 7 years ago. The fact that a phone that has many known defects from the manufacturer, that costs nearly, or more than twice the cost of a flagship phone is not supported to the same degree as the direct competitor is fucking laughable. Samsung repairs are also consistently more expensive, take longer, have fewer repair locations, and are just generally more inconvenient in the case of data loss (iCloud is better than any data backup system Google or Samsung provides, objectively, full stop there is no comparison) which makes it clear that these foldable phones are just a stupid choice unless you have more money than you know what to do with. The few software features that Samsung offers do not outweigh the massive price premium of the foldable phones. It's bordering on a scam considering the screen protector is known to regularly peel away from the LCD and then cause damage to the LCD when folded, resulting in damage that the warranty does not cover.

@@A_Balanced_Breakfast Well I respectfully disagee regarding the cloud option. Samsung Cloud offers 15GB of free storage, while iCloud only offers 5GB of free storage. Samsung Cloud is compatible with Android, iOS, and Windows devices, while iCloud is only compatible with Apple devices. Samsung Cloud allows you to upload files up to 100GB in size, while iCloud only allows you to upload files up to 50GB in size. Samsung Cloud keeps a 30-day history of your files, so you can restore previous versions if necessary. iCloud only keeps a 10-day history of your files. The only best feature I like about iCloud is iCloud is generally considered to be more secure than Samsung Cloud. This is because iCloud uses end-to-end encryption, which means that your data is encrypted on your device before it's sent to iCloud. I think Samsung is also working on the encryption part. speaking of foldables, a foldable phone can be both a phone and a tablet, which can be very convenient. You can fold it up and put it in your pocket when you're not using it, and then unfold it when you need a larger screen. An iPhone cannot do that till now. A foldable phone can be great for productivity. You can use the larger screen to multitask, or to work on projects that require more space. I am yet to see any iPhone doing "proper" mutitasking. If you say no one does multitasking, you're in a group similar to Apple cult. Also Foldable phones are a new technology, and they're still in their early stages of development. If you're interested in new technology and want to be on the cutting edge, then a foldable phone might be worth the price. Wait till Apple comes with a foldable and see how it woos the market because of its clever "Marketing strategy" Also the iPhone 7 with latest iOS will be dog slow in terms of performance.

Right? Miss me with that shit "couldn't find anything online". Literally the first result is "samsung is offering 4 years of major android updates and 5 of security"

"pretty common knowledge" isn't an official statement by samsung, so repeating that is less than useless.

honestly the new gamers nexus video just the cherry on top, all these videos are half assed and badly made first impressions. They dont do any research and dont even care about getting their facts right

Maybe I'm missing something but the hinge isn't the tech - it's the screen and that doesn't really change at the moment. A plastic, factory fitted, screen protector that Samsung will replace once in the 1st year for free. Don't get me wrong, I really would like a foldable just because it could fit better in my rucksack but for now even this gen is still early adopter tech.

I hope they've fixed the screens. I have an older model and the screen is cracking along the hinge, which is frustrating.

they just wanted you to buy the crappy display first so you would upgrade to the better one later

@@iamaduckquack you seem about as unintelligent as this comment would point to, they couldn't have released it sooner because the thing that makes this phone so good is all the research and development they have done over the past 4 years and all of the criticisms of the community.

@@BarryTGash not wrong but also nowhere close to correct, the tech is MOST CERTAINLY the hinge, that is the main focus of improvements this year and i have no idea how you thought that it wasn't the tech, tis gen is also closing in on the final design and should no longer be considered "early adopter tech" because of how advanced all of the components are, the only thing that will be improved over the next generations is the screen crease, the outer screen, and the cameras, along with the typical cpu improvements over the years,

ShortCircuit has always been about short overviews. It's never been about full reviews...

@tiadaid yet they did the whole performance/battery comparison, which leaves it on a very weird place. I didn't comment to add salt, but to provide context on why I felt the need to downvote. Whether it is useful for them, idk

​@@tiadaidAnd yet they don't have the information required for a short overview

Bruh this is ShortCircuit..... 😑

@@tiadaid yeah, but I guess the use of apps on the external screen is pretty important. I feel it should have been covered.

Probably because it involves experimental settings under the "labs" feature, and not natively supported like Motorola

Unfortunately there are reasons. Validating and getting the updates approved by each country and each carrier within that country is possibly the biggest hurdle to releasing updates for many companies. And if you think the unlocked versions of phones might get the update sooner than the carrier models, in the US is been just the opposite in my experience, because the unlocked version update has to be approved by ALL the major carriers, and usually lags far behind the updates for carrier specific versions

Get the S23 Ultra

how do you like your flip 5? I would love an update as I am debating if I should get this.

Honestly, this is the most fun and interesting phone I've had in a very long time. Seems obvious but: you get a normal slab phone, so no big deal there, but you also get a compact screen to use more minimally as you wish (starting podcasts, checking messages etc...). It's definitely reduced my screen time, and has added a little quirk into my life. Don't think I'm going back to a slab phone any time soon. Only downside: no zoom camera. Not a huge deal, but if you take full advantage of the multiple cameras on flagship phones, you'll definitely notice the fewer lenses

Thank you for taking your time to share your friend's input. I'm also interested in this phone mainly for not get sucked into other stuff in full screen. I'm glad it works for your friend. Also, flipping it open and closed has got to be a great for fidgetting.

It should also help to save more battery cuz it's a smaller display, but I wonder how it'd compare to the interior display which is ltpo oled

Here I am getting a deal. The phone costs around 1200$ and with exchange and stuff I am getting it for around 900$ so yea thinking of pulling the trigger

Linus is a Fold user not a Flip user though. He'd have more insight into the Fold 5 than a Flip.

Linus doesn't use the Flip style phones, but he'll be covering the Fold5 soon!

@@veryboringname. Very little difference between the 2 devices in the grand scheme of it all.

@ShortCircuit Holy crap I got a reply from the channel. Sweet. No hate to the host either. I just know Linus is experienced with folding devices.

@@GamerDadof2 I have both and I disagree with that. They're very different phones with very different use cases.

before they had a full outside screen i'd agree but now it's really useful. The smaller form factor makes the device much easier to handle when on the go since it fits perfectly in one hand and all UI elements can be used with one thumb. No more dual wielding the phone to navigate it, no more balancing of a huge glass slab, easier to stow away and it uses less battery when on the outside screen (though that point is kinda lessened by flip phones having smaller batteries)

it's not as fragile as you think, you would have to do it on purpose to damage it with a fingernail

@@ultrxlight but you can't do it even on purpose with regular glass screen. Imagine crosswalk on high load street, a car whizzes by next to you and you squeeze the phone hard 😁

@@m241m I understand what you're trying to say, but i had every fold from 1 till 5, and the screen was of questionable durability only in the 1st one. since fold 2 i've never had any scratches on the folding screen, absolutely none. also squeezing the phone wouldn't cut it, you would have to REALLY jam your fingernail with full force

Only downgrade in camera performance. Flip 5 lacks a telelens.

@@senna476 you think it’d be a nice upgrade? I’ve never owned a Samsung before, feel like I’d like this one

@@bennosubman Its not really a upgrade more like something different. I like things that are exciting more than boring stuff thats works very good.

@darkness-jm3bt nah it's that folding like a z and also folding like an x

@darkness-jm3bt oh even better

My wife drops her phone as much as Linus drops $1000 PC components. Her co-worker told her not to get the flip. She had one and it broke when she dropped it off her couch.

@@iamaduckquack That really sucks. I love the idea of the fold but I need it to survive.

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M not counting if it's dropped on the concrete. I'm sure if I have a case it would be fine but I don't want to risk it with a almost 2000 dollar phone.

I have a flip 4 and the durability is a problem for me even with a case. I dropped it when it was closed, the phone landed on the hinge which wasn't protected by the case and the middle of the screen died. I know some brands like d brand make cases where the hinge gets covered up when closed, but when the phone is open there's just a giant lump on the back. the plastic screen protector also scratches easily, but I don't think they are that expensive to change.

Obviously everyones experience is different, but as the owner of a Fold 3 I can throw in my personal experience that for me, it's actually been more durable than all my previous phones combined. Both my S8 and S10 finished up with shattered screens, even with a good case, from corner drops. The Fold has been dropped countless times, often landing in ways that you would assume would cause a bad screen break, and apart from some minor scratches on the corners, both screens have held up fine and overall the phone is still working as if it were new. Definitely worth it for me, i'd advise that if you are interested about getting a folding phone you look at some other discussions and guage how well you believe a device will hold up when you daily drive it.

The crease really only is a problem when watching reviews. When you're using the phone it's not something you really think about unless you're looking for it.

As for your first one, it’s not possible and it’s a nonesense complaint, as for your second one it’s literally not physically possible.