"I don't need to see their argument to give my response, I mean surely their argument is the same as most people I've debated with" Hasan is.... a unique individual
Trans person here: Transition is not natural. And sadly, it quite often doesn't help the dysphoria despite it being there to treat dysphoria. This is something I try to explain to very young trans people all the time, because they start to hate their parents for not letting them transition as a child - even though they don't understand the reality of transition and its impact on quality of life. Therapy > transition. Coping skills > band aid that is less than 50% effective.
I believe there is also a previously transgender male who is now a founder to an organization to bring awareness to the dangers of transitioning. This person who previously identified as a male, now wants to transition back to their birth gender, back to being a female. I have am aware of two instances of why transgendering children is dangerous and needs to be properly addressed and not something to be frivolous about. Even I, have personal experiences of having a identity crisis as a child. Even as a teen I suffered a sexuality crisis as well because I was being bulled for people assuming I was a lesbian because I was a tomboy. This has serious impacts on a young mind. My mind that I am still having issues with because I now have great contempt for females because I was bullied by them into wanting to be a boy, among other reasons (and I think, that isn't too far off with some trans people, they hate their own gender and what it represents similar to how I hated females, so I wanted to be a boy). If I had therapy, I might have been able to come out as a much more mentally capable person, but I didn't, I still hate females as a female myself, how messed up is that? It wasn't until my later in my mid-twenties that I learned to cope with and grew out of being a tomboy, because I became wiser and mature enough to know who I am as a person and not the "idea" of the person. I still have issues and I have a lot of resentment, but I know who I am now. I hope that one day, the trans community needs to understand that some people are trying to find out who they are, and forcing these changes actually causes harm, and people will be more accepting if there was more respect for each individual experiences and to understand that just because a female is a tomboy, doesn't mean she's trans, nor does that make her gay, she's a just a female that's more in touch with masculinity. There is a difference.
You'll need to be careful with your language when you do so. I found that you have to walk on egg shells when speaking on this topic, especially in academic settings.
@@awfan221 Indeed - I have set many a young person into an angry fit, which is unfortunate and obviously not helpful. The most pressing issue to me is that they are often suicidal and think it will help them avoid those feelings, and this in particular is one of the least likely things that transition will help fix. IMO, cognitive behavioral therapy is much more effective at changing one's outlooks and alleviating the negative thought patterns of suicidal ideation.
@@TheOriginal_Unaleska If we're thinking of the same person, the person was interviewed in 'What Is A Female?' by Matt Walsh. I felt so bad for them, and you could tell that they deeply regretted the transition and only wants to help people not to make the same mistake. They talk about how much the procedure scarred them, how they've been in and out of the hospital multiple times a year due to complications. It was heartbreaking to watch. I'm also glad you mentioned tomboy's. I've noticed since this entire trans phase started that tomboy's are never talked about anymore. The thing people need to realize is that it's perfectly fine for a girl to enjoy boy things, and it's perfectly fine for boys to enjoy girl things. It doesn't mean they want to be the opposite sex, it means they're kids being a kid.
Hes just a typical leftie, the only reason he is known out there is because he looks unique, is tall and depends on the person, is handsome. Other than that hes just another forever outraged sjw and thats it.
@@minecraftvvg4250 you forgot to add the part but he’ll still expect a good grade and will report you for discrimination if you challenge anything he says.
*The people who preach inclusiveness, openness and acceptance are the most closed-minded, uninclusive and unaccepting people you will ever come across.*
@@SimplyToad There isn't one. That's an argument people made up in recent years to justify all this nonsense and declassify it as mental illness. If anorexia is a mental disorder, so is "being trans."
@@SimplyToad Knowing the difference may be that you're wrong that there is one. Could that be true? Could it be that saying they aren't the same isn't true?
Gender is not biology. Sex is. So ya, someone with female gender could have a prostate. Way to announce to the world you don't know the difference between biology (sex) and gender (social and cultural construct). Stop commenting on youtube and get a dictionary fool.
Something being natural or unnatural shouldn't automatically be an insult: getting plastic surgery is unnatural, getting braces to straighten your teeth, or straight up veneers are unnatural, it doesn't mean it's an insult to someone has gotten those things, it's just a fact EDIT: for the record, since I feel like my comment emboldens ppl to say things I don't quite agree with: I do think body dismorphia is a common occurrence within the mind and is natural, but the ACT OF TRANSITIONING isn't something we can do naturally, though I support anyone's decision to go through that process if it makes them happier
Trans people have a history of being invalidated bc religious people consider their existence “unnatural”. It’s the same reason it would be fucked up to point at someone in a wheelchair and say “idk why they want us to accept them as one of us. That chair is unnatural and I don’t want my kids around that.” It’s offensive bc of the fact it implies there’s something wrong with trans people
Now that we live in a technologically advanced period of society we as a society should be more comfortable with receiving man made alterations on our physiology and anatomy. And more than that, we should celebrate the fact that we can have fake teeth, fake hair and fake genitals. It’s fucking cool. If the stigma of fake is bad is abolished, then we can finally have that unity we’ve all been searching for. Trans women are women, but they are not female. And that’s ok that doesn’t make them any less than natural women nor should they have different rights. Who cares, let’s move on to the war in the Ukraine and the import crises.
Just wanted to say this. Thank you for being a smart person who sees facts for what they are. *Facts.*, You good person, have a good day, you earned it ❤️
@@tieman3790 He may get attacked from the left and right for things, but he still has thousands of people that follow his every move and literally think he's always right
IM a trans woman. Ive grown up with this channel and so far on this topic I fully agree! I do not think I am directly comparable to a biological woman, Im also not directly comparable to a biological man due to HRT for 2.5 years. please do not let creating/reacting these videos/people get to you guys (Aba and Preach). Love you all!
@@shep295 By agrees with it you mean agrees when it conveniences him. His argument sometimes is that there is barely any diference, and even if it was true we would see a lot more trans women dominate sports. I literally saw him say a bunch of times in the last 3 hours on stream
I'm calling bullshit, any real trans person that sees the list of videos these clowns have made can see they're spreading the worst takes about trans people I don't know who paid for these fake takes but you should be ashamed
I checked out your channel and respect for sharing about your transition and mad respect for backing up Aba and Preach because no one is perfect but these two are at least talking about important things in a direct a truthful way.
Aba and Preach…you guys are wholesome and excellent as hell. Thank you for using your voices for COMMON SENSE! The world is so sad, but I am grateful for you two. I’ve never met you, but you guys are kindred spirits to myself and I’m sure so many others. Love you guys.
I remember back in the days you actually had to do something to be a racist, sexist, homophobe, islamophobe and transphobe etc - these days just by having / expressing a different or a valid point is enough. What a weird ass world we live in 🙃
That's because they don't want a discussion. If a weak argument knows that it is a weak argument, it must be kept away from critical discussion at all costs.
Hasan is beyond disingenuous, incredibly self-righteous, & has an extreme overestimation of how smart/wise he is. In reality, he's the perfect case study for Dunning Kruger.
Seriously though. His entire platform is straw manning positions in bad faith so he can attack them in order to sound morally superior & correct. He's so brain dead & I really wish people would just stop giving him attention. I get that it's an impossibility to an extent because of how massive he is, but Hasan really is just a waste of time. He believes he's always right & has the only moral take & never concedes an opinion or changes his mind. It's incredibly tiring & transparent to people who don't buy into the idea of "Stan"ing anyone.
I have found Hasan to be horribly misinformed but that Messi inclusion was the icing on the cake. A man getting treatment to grow to be the mighty height of 5'7 instead of being a dwarf is somehow an unfair advantage lmao. This dude is just an emotionally reactive echo box of liberal propoganda and I say this as someone who leans more left myself. This is such a horrible way to go about discussions.
The best part is that if Hasan was more informed (which is something the trans person {the one Hasan ridiculed} was criticizing Hasan for not being), he could have made an argument that exemptions for Trans Women to be in women's sports could be made if they medically transitioned at an early enough age (an age before the onset of puberty, which is most responsible for men's competitive edge in sports). But Hasan seems more interested in appearing progressive than actually being so. He regularly does reaction videos to other Marxist Creators where he really doesn't contribute to anything they say. I never understood why Marxist creators tolerate him or even like him to the point of having him on as a guest on their podcasts. He is a lot of things Marxist criticize progressive liberals for from his seemingly lavish lifestyle (Marxists are generally austere minus their "shiny things" like hobbies or consumer products they really enjoy) to his channel structure. His behavior regularly mimics Vaush, a creator many Marxists loathe for his behavior and for being into that unproductive debate-bro stuff. The only difference being Vaush is an anti-communist while Hasan (probably only pretends) to have sympathy for them. I think many Marxists should cut ties with him. His demeanor reminds me heavily of many strategies the CIA used to undermine Marxist Organization.
That painful back and forth in Hasan's head was hilarious. Hasan: They are transphobes so I hate them. But I do not know anything about them. You say they criticize people I hate? I should love them. But you say they have criticized me? Then I think I should hate them..." Pure gold.
As a trans woman who has watched Aba & Preach for almost a year now, I don’t get that vibe at all. They have said positive things, they point out the BS some trans folks do & non trans people do that makes the trans community looks bad. That’s OK!
THey've just basically said, 'trans women are really just men' and you go off on that. People understand that trans women can still get prostate cancer or wahtever, no one is going to deny that. They think we're pedophiles and predators. This is the same shit they make up when talking about bathroom bs.
Did you miss Preach's tirade about some (minority) of transwomen faking about being trans to dominate sports or worse ... for predatory reasons?? (around 12:35). I'd like to hear your response to that....
@@Zelinity do you even know the guy they're talking about? They've done multiple videos on him. He wasn't trying to get into sports, he was a sex offender that was going into women's locker rooms at spas.
@@Zelinity "It is possible. Do I believe that most of these folks are doing that? NO! But to sit there like nobody would, that's not true. In fact there's some people that pretend to be trans so they can get into certain spaces and prey on people. Now, of course, that's a minority of folks, and I wouldn't even say it's a thing, but just like the wi spa incident where it turns out the person who was in those change rooms was an offender, there are some people who will do whatever it takes to get to where they need to go." There's nothing anti-trans about this, imo, and I'm not sure why you're bringing it up as though a trans person should be offended. That there are people who will lie, cheat, and steal, and that some of those may either be trans or pretend to be for their own negative purposes, is just a fact. He didn't say anything here that is an attack against trans people, this is an attack against humanity in general, because some people just aren't going to play by the rules, and some people are going to take advantage of whatever they can to get what they want, trans or not.
That Hasan guy is constantly making blanket statements about people and is like a toddler on a power trip, damning anyone who doesn't agree with him 100%. He seems to think he's smarter than everybody else and is completely corrupted with the 'power' he has from his following and influence. He seems to relish being "on the right side" of the argument (from his POV) and is leveraging that to justify not listening to people who have an opposing viewpoint while he dismisses their arguments (whic he doesn’t actually listen to) as inferior/lacking/or even 'monstrous', because that makes it easier to not have to actually challenge his own opinion.
He's a smug asshole. I don't pay him mind. It's sad that a bunch of young people will uncritically listen to him and fall into the "everyone who disagrees is a transphobe" mindset.
Love the way you guys play off each other and I can tell you have a solid friendship when I see Aba talk Preach down when he's clearly angry. Good stuff. Don't always agree but dig the opportunity to hear your views.
The man knows he’s not telling the truth. He understands he’s cornered a certain demographic of the market and he’s pandering to them to stay wealthy. It’s obvious.
Barely ten seconds in and his claim is "I don't need to see the argument to know what it is" Really building your credibility with that opening statement
Also, when you call people like Hassan out on their fallacies they just throw a bunch of “ists” and “phobes” at you whilst projecting their own inadequacies on the people they disagree with.
I think funny that people like them thinks they have the moral high ground but then when people want to talk about specific point or their feelings, they say it doesn't matter or they don't care... doesn't seems really coherent with moral high ground values...
Agreed I'm trans feminine I guess mostly crossdress but I would never take hormones cause the thought of injecting myself with hormones or getting implants isn't natural I like natural beauty to me hormone therapy is like cheating kinda like athletes taking steroids you take alot of testosterone before a sport or weight lifting competition and got caught you'd be disqualified cause getting that natty wasn't natural to me it's just a step below plastic surgery and I hate how society says oh take these hormones to meet a beauty standard or you might wanna kill yourself fuck that I'd rather hit the gym change and mold myself naturally to best I can cause you can be trans or identify as a different gender without hormones
@@actuallyKriminell That and any sense of worth. This man lives such a vacuous and meaningless life that he has to be find joy in being angry all the time and being triggered for no reason. He's living a sad life and has to bring others to his levels to feel somewhat fulfilled. He's a joke.
@@tatsunithelennyking2540 lol so your one those people takes new information as nagging and would rather burry your head. If your happy with the political situation congrats your part of the problem. We need Fucking angry passionate people that wanna bring Material successes to common people not more of same Austerity ass raping everybody… Unless your just into tht. No judgment
At this point, none of those words mean anything to me and if nothing else just serve as a sign to avoid the idiots using them!😂 Maybe it meant something like 50+ years ago when those issues were true and now we live in the softest most FREE and expressive age in human history.
Preach getting mad is me when shit like this happens. My biggest pet peeve is when people assume shit about me and make shit up. Lying on my name and character. Saying that I said or did something that I didn’t. Not that I really care what people think of me, but because it’s either just plainly not true or because weirdos can believe that shit and then try to interfere with my life. Just typing this is getting me heated.
I absolutely felt this comment more than any other posted here. When you’re an honest person, your reputation becomes sacred. If someone lies about you and attempts to tarnish your reputation, you’re obligated to defend yourself until the accuser(s) admit their lies and apologize to you. I’m an honest man, and I will always be truthful to others and to myself, no matter how small a lie it could be. My honor and reputation are absolutely sacred to me, and I will not allow them to be tarnished with lies.
Being called a "phobe" is no longer a insult really. It is over used so much that it has lost his power. *It seems that it means 'a person who simply disagrees with someone else's opinion'.* Hassan is just someone whom is obsessed with fighting against 'phobes'... even when there are no 'phobes' to fight.
He doesn't even disagree with their opinion because he did not listen to their video long enough to get the entirety of their opinion. So him calling them transphobes is the stupidest thing.
I was just thinking this while watching the video. Hasan calls aba and preach transphobes like it's some terrible insult on them as people, and they just brush it off like it doesn't mean anything lol
I'm sick of being equated with hate for asking questions. I've put up with misogyny and racism my whole damn life, and I would never accuse someone of being sexist/racist for just making a point or being confused. People just say ANYTHING nowadays like they crave oppression
If you take away peoples right to ask questions then what you say no longer needs to make sense. And its easier supporting any cause when you dont need to do that.
There’s nothing thoughtful about Hasan Piker’s perspective. He spouts an SJW script, one that allows no room for nuance, and half the internet jerks him off for it. Being socially aware, being awake (not woke) requires ACTUAL thoughtfulness, nuance, and complex perspective. If you so much as say “I’m going to take a minute to think about this”, they deem you all the things: transphobic, racist, ableist, whatever. All because you took a moment to consider different sides of a complex topic. And why? Because they’re close-minded just like the religious zealots they hate. They. Are. One. And. The. Same.
@@selvinmckay6768 I disagree. Being socially awake is a lot more rare than being woke when it comes to online discourse, so the word caters to the more common internet experience.
Hassan dismissing biological women’s concerns, feelings, and disadvantages really hit a nerve for me. My sister is an athlete and I’m afraid she would have to work extra harder because of the advantages trans women have over her. He’s being sexist unawarely
Do you think that there’s a correct way to go about the situation? Either way, you are hurting an underprivileged group. To make it sound like one option is better than the other is ridiculous
@@Mr.BluePants And how people don’t view that as the PINNACLE of HYPOCRISY is beyond me. Like, putting blatant facts to the side to better fit what YOU want to be true. That’s where we are right now. Smh
I think that some people from the trans community feel insecure that they can’t be fully fully the opposite gender they feel they are. It’s very sad and I wish they could but you are right. They need to see the facts and not get their feeling and views in the way. Maybe we will be able to make this fair in the future.
"I don't even need to hear the argument." Once you hear that, you can presume two things: The argument is so obvious and potent that it has robust reasoning behind it, or the person saying they don't need to hear it is totally unwilling to hear a coherent argument that challenges their own logic because it can't hold up to objective scrutiny.
Simply put, they are weak minded and rely on Ad Hominem attacks to shut down debate. This isn't just a problem with the left as the right is just as guilty of it.
Love it when ppl throw out internet buzzwords assuming that has any relevance to anything in real life. Ppl like him love to use those words like that hoping to get woke good boy internet brownie points for clout of some kind. It’s really hilarious 😂
I love that he was able to say a few words in the beginning that is the crux of the convo…… “There is trans and then there is transitioning” Aka there is cross dressers, then there is dick clipping surgery and grow-a-beard pills. Natural to put on another genders clothes aka not perma, then there is the non natural transitioning that is pretty much not reversible
"Social Justice unite". Had me dying. But for real we are so caught up in what we believe in that the idea of being wrong is worst than doing a disservice to the cause you represent.
It's a modern religion. When idiots like Hasan breach the dogma and can no longer support it with a reasonable argument then they start talking on pure faith and fantasy. In this case he's transitioned into a peddler of shockingly absurd takes.
Hasan is a terrible representative of any topic. He doesn't have enough self awareness to know when he is contradicting himself. @ 2:16 for example, he complains about Ada and Preach not watching enough of his content to properly represent his position. He follows that up by saying he knows nothing about their content, but he still feel like he can call them out.
Empirically when people say "trans isn't natural" its a negative. This back to when they said "gay isn't natural" We now know its a natural phenomenon.
@@Joie_totheworld Watch the video you potato, their stance is very clearly "being trans is natural, eating hormones and getting surgery is unnatural", they don't care if adults go through these "therapies". They just want people to stop bullshitting to drive an agenda.
Its not complicated you hear a argument being made and you ask yourself : What is the conclusion this argument is making ? What evidence supports this argument ? What is the relationship between Conclusion and Evidence ? How does Evidence support the evidence ?
@@Joie_totheworld since when did you have to influence your body with biological physical hormones to become gay? lesbian and gay sexuality is something else than this. Theres no literall interference with your biological body you have to do to become gay or lesbian. The feeling of not being born the right gender is the natural part but transitioning is not natural, because nature didn't make us this way. Happily we humans have the knowledge to surpass natures limits within us so they can transition to be comfortable and feel like their true self which is good. but no transitioning is not natural. thats like calling vaccines a natural force against illness... its not its manmade and theres nothing negative about it either.
“I don’t even need to hear the argument.” Translation: “I’m so insecure with regards to my views that I will reject any and all counterpoints without even hearing them.” The fact remains clear in that no reasonable person debating in good faith would argue that taking hormone supplements or suppressors and/or undergoing extensive internal or external surgery is a “natural” function of life. It’s completely valid to say that people who are born biologically female or male (with XX/XY chromosomes and the associated anatomy) may feel gender dysphoric and that is a “natural” occurrence, but the process of transitioning is completely artificial. All that said, what is or isn’t “natural” doesn’t really mean a lot when humans as a matter of modern living do plenty of unnatural things, but he’s the one using that terminology in his original position.
I literally had to deal with this on Twitter and I swear to God I had a good point and they still decided to ignore it and insult me for apparently having no life
@@triggerhappy6398 I get it all the time. And it is can be almost any issue coming from almost any political or social ideology. Tribalism at one of its most extremes - the inability to even consider an opposing point of view, coupled with outright lying or obfuscating in one’s argument.
The truth is now called "transphobia". I'm glad to be transphobic then. Because I just can't find it in me to subscribe to their sort of bullshit. When another person's rights are crossed, that is no longer the liberty you deserve, let alone be entitled to. As a biological woman, with my ovaries and the works, that isn't something I'd compromise about. I CAN respect you if you're trans, as long as you respect me in the way it should be, beliefs, spaces, and sports included, then we're good.
If the truth is transphobic then be transphobic. All of these whateverphobic terms being thrown left and right definitely do great damage to a cause. We have to be able to have these conversations as a society and the overuse of these terms really works against the cause in the long term.
Hassan is what u could call intellectually dishonest. It’s not that he isn’t intelligent it’s the fact that he can’t accept differing opinions without throwing isms at people. And most of his opinions are straw man arguments where even if u prove him wrong he wouldn’t listen to anybody else’s opinion or perspective.
I don't think he's intelligent though. Intelligent people are capable of having a flexible way of thinking and they don't assume they know it all. Ignorant people, however, believe they know everything therefore don't have any reason to explore any further.
Damn, Preach hit the nail on the head. How are we supposed to take a guy seriously when he couldn't even do enough research to understand your take before he went out and made a video bashing you guys. How do you trust someone who bashes people without even doing his due diligence and proper research.
@@sockoblocko he's not even trying to be logically consistent, just spewing off the latest talking points on his side. breaking it down, he said that he doesn't care about these sports or fair play, therefore you should listen to him about what is right for said sports. makes a lot of sense.
As a transwoman I view it like this. Putting a trans woman in sports with biological women is the same thing as putting a heavyweight boxer who's also at a reach advantage against a lightweight who's half the size (slight exaggeration perhaps but you get the meaning)
Have watched Hasan for like a year before I found this community. The real problem is really that he shows that he thinks he’s above other people’s arguments and so won’t entertain their arguments, and will just dismiss anything he can’t explain as bad faith. Guy is just a tad annoying and narcissistic.
Social justice is a real thing but "social justice warriors" like this are essentially a self-selecting community of the personality disordered, always the victim and incapable of self-reflection.
Nah Hasan knows he’s dumb, he knows he can’t engage directly with arguments because he’ll look stupid of which has happened many times in the past. Insane right wingers dunk on him all the time because he’s so stupid. He calls everyone a debate bro and refuses to debate even though he is the quintessential dummy debate bro
Listening to this guy Hasan try to explain his point of view makes my head hurt. He's saying who gives a fuck... the female athletes give a fuck. Those girls that have dedicated their time to being good and competing. While most teens are getting stoned with their friends, these girls are at practice multiple times a week. To say all of that means nothing is shitty. A trans women thats beating the shit out of a woman in the ring should feel terrible. Deep down you know what you came from, it's crazy to want the world to respect as something you identify as, but you don't respect that group that you're desperate to be part of. IT's like asking someone to hold the door open for you, then saying "thanks bitch"
This is the longest I've ever endured of guy. I ran out of recent A&P episodes so I finally bit the bullet and I'm glad because y'all handled this so well. No meaner than necessary but not standing for an iota of bullshit. Brrravo
I mean, trans women get orchidectomies and grow beast glands which means they can’t get testicular cancer (because they don’t have any) but can get breast cancer like all women…. Nice meme though
First he said y’all are acting like there’s a mischievous intent for trans to join women sports and that you’re projecting. Then he accused people who talk about this topic as “not caring” and only wanting to argue. Accused you of generalizing then generalizes.😂
High school sports is how I was able to get a scholarship and education 🤷♀️ I played with the boys until about 13 when it became painfully obvious how much better they were. Destroying opportunities for women and ignoring biology is not going to help trans acceptance. I guess Hasan doesn’t actually care about any of those things, or he wouldn’t drag out the issue with this nonsense. Thank you Aba & Preach for being logical and consistent on the issue.
Of course Hasan doesn't care about the issue. In High school, he was a fat unathletic virgin, he can't understand the physical demand, the hours, nor the amount of work that goes into getting a sports scholarship, or a scholarship of any kind. He couldn't know hardship if it hit him on the nose, he still lives with his mom and he's pushing 30 for christ's sake.
I agree . I loved playing sports growing up and started playing on gendered leagues and teams once puberty made the boys a lot stronger and larger than I am.
I have undiagnosed gender dysmorphia, I identify as male. I personally will not transition. I have chosen to marry a straight man and I am aware its part of my mental issues. I like when people respect my pronouns and call me by my chosen name. However I don't demand people do it, my husband doesn't. However people do botch my birth name and there is trauma related to it so I prefer my chosen name I picked for the radio. ( just yesterday the plumber refused to say my birth name correctly and called me Ann the whole day.) I've seen people transition and detransition. Sometimes it's just trauma that makes you want to be a man so you are strong and nobody can violate you again. Taking the meds, getting surgery is not natural. Just like taking my other medications like anti depressants are not natural. It is not wrong but it isn't natural...it's science and technology. I listen to you guys because people can't even say the literal definitions of anything anymore, hypocrisy is rampant as always. Thank you for pointing out hypocrisy and logic. I like to say practice what you preach but I'm more of an Aba fan. Lol
You said you chose to marry a straight man - so do you view yourself as a homosexual man, or are you attracted to women? Just genuinely curious, thanks for sharing your story.
@@gyuhff I'm just a stay at home "wife" and manage the household, my husband works and comes home. I'm not sure what you mean. We have a pretty straight marriage.
@@patm3802 I know these terms can feel cringe to some people. I am pansexual. Which to me basically means I could be attracted to any human. Male, Female, Trans, any race....ect. For me personally once I am in a relationship that's the only person I am attracted to. So yes my husband and I share an interest in women. We are mongomus though.
Aba & Preach have taught me that you can agree and disagree with something and have a disscussion about it. Too many people see everything as absolutes, where you either agree with them completly or disagree completly. That's just not how the world works, we need to talk about subjects without trying to execute the other side of your views because that will get us nowhere. Aristotle stated that the human function is to think critically and to achieve excellence in human function is to take action that's driven by critical thinking. We need to talk and think about both sides, even if that side is wrong about the topic, we should still look at their strong points on their side.
I kinda agree with you, because I still like Aba n Preach, eventhough i think they have transphobic tendencies. I agree with Hasan on most things, but just find him annoying tbh.
The fact that Hassan even has an audience just shows how demented people are. He's so overtly dishonest it's beyond pathetic. He literally admits that he knows nothing about you and hasn't heard what you said but is going to trash you based on what he imagined you said.
@Queen Nové He basically made his viewers hate Aba and Preach before the video even begun, he could've made any argument and people would've agreed with him.
@@Usernamesdontmatter1 people who live under capitalism also can't buy homes right now, and pushing for something doesn't mean you have to live by it all the way when the society you live in also doesn't
Isn't this the "socialist" that bought a 3m mansion in LA, eats at restaurant that costs thousands per meal, and shows off his designer clothes every chance he gets? 🤣🤣🤣
The fact that anyone agrees with what Hasan has to say about pretty much anything is crazy… he speaks on pure emotion and caters to general opinion it’s rediculous
because on tweeter and twitch (way more on tweeter but you get the point) people take what they hear for granted no questions asked. it's fuckin dangerous in long term, we can already see it, this video is just another exemple.
-“who cares about HS sports?” The players, Coaches, friends, and families. -Once most people accept that Trans-women are women: How long before most people stop using the term “women,” in most of the ways they currently use it for?
The ole slippery slope argument huh.... Why have any laws at all then? After all, every slope is slippery.... We can't have murder laws, what if I have to kill someone in self-defense? Oh..... Right, this is a stupid argument. But you'll make it unironically as if it isn't. Also, are you familiar with the fact that language is in constant evolution? The thing you are concerned about will inevitably happen eventually.... or do you think women is just what they were always called the instant we appeared on the planet???? Seriously, your concern is about nothing. Also, ever gone to a girls sporting event? None of the people care about this activity the way you think they do... and if you want to insist they do, go to just ONE male sporting event and notice the difference in energy. Yeah.... 10 people care about women's sport, why do you think women cry about their pay in athletics ALL the time? I guess it's true, they just get held down, after all, loads of people care about women's sport....... except they don't.
Its funny how I live in Norway, and my trans co worker is frustrated and scared that these kind of people and mentality come here. She believes it would only create more divide and judgement cause of the attention and lack of nuance. Very well said imo. I really care about this girl (as she identifies as) and have no problem calling her by whatever she likes. The people forcing their agenda is no better than religion throughout the ages. just disgusting.
@@yayo0 We do have a pretty logical and respectable mentality in average imo. You do you and, as long as you are a decent person we will get along no matter what or who you are. When you try to make me do something or believe something it doesn't matter who or what you are, I'm going against you. Just be decent and its all good!
@@tieman3790 Hassan ranted about buying a house in LA to his audience. Buying a house here in southern California is practically only for the rich or old money. He also is a bad faith political streamer who doesn't give A&P the decency to respond to their video but simply dismiss it.
@@noblegalifreyan4551 wdym ranted? It got leaked and people got mad. And everyone knows he's rich. On his stream it always says how many subs he has. And i really dont care about how he dismissed a&p, he live 12 hours every day. Hes probably tired of seeing those hundreds of videos about a non issue
I just wanna give my 2 cents because I feel it will be cathartic to explain my thoughts. It deeply worries me that we have gotten to a point in society where any questioning or conversation geared towards trans is blanketed as transphobic. Like its so weird to see that you cannot question things anymore because people will call you anti whatever it is you are questioning. To me it goes against what everyone wants; to be treated as a person. If you don't allow conversations to be had on the new arising issues because they're "Transphobic" then you only create further resentment towards that movement. Hatred breeds hatred.
@@supernatural5354 What are you trying to say? The rights of someones body? Look right now you're about 13 I assume, hopefully when youre 18 youre still pro trans but a bit more intelligent and can also participate in the conversation
@@MrMiguelForster OK Boomer settled down, you're not impressing anybody. Just leave people the fuck alone. 13, 25, 50, 80 year olds know that shit. Grow the fuck up, leave people alone, mind your business, they teach that in elementary school. Unless that's when you dropped out of school. If so, i'm going to be the one to school you on that.
My biggest take aways from the "I don't really care, and you don't either" rhetoric are: 1) Clearly you do care, or why even passionately discuss it multiple times at different points publicly, in an attempt to change the minds of complete strangers? You most certainly don't sway anyone trying to tell them how they feel for arbitrary reasons that are likely strictly your own. 2) Assumption and projection are not how real conversations are had to find tangible solutions to issues that people are very clearly upset about, if not directly affected by. 3) It's ironic how in one breath, these types of people will try to tell others to get involved with what they perceive to be wrong. But then try to brush it off when it's something that they don't think is really important. Countless times I've heard, "well even though this cause doesn't directly affect you, it doesn't mean that it never can or will. If you want someone on your side when you're in trouble or being oppressed, then you need to stand up with the people who need you now." Clearly this trans people in women's sports doesn't affect most people who aren't athletes. But just like any festered cut, eventually it spreads when left un addressed. The issue with trans rights has been given so much leg room that it's gotten to a point where people are genuinely frustrated, and more than willing to tell individuals, let alone a whole group to piss off. Which sounds fucked up out of context, but when you really look back on how it got to this point, it makes sense beyond simple cut and dry, black and white bigotry. It started as, "hey trans people exist, and just want to be left alone." Which was fine, but then it evolved into, "if you don't want to date a trans person, you're a bigot!" Which not only made men say pause, but plenty of women too, both cis and queer alike. Then from there it just kept going and going until finally now, the community has started to alienate enough of their previous allies and supporters that when you call someone a "phobic-ist," people are ready to be on their Redman. "I'LL BE DAT!" The problem still being the same, but also inverted. Just like the trans community wanted to be, EVERYONE just wants to be left the fuck alone.
Y’all should read it, he’s right. It’s gone from trans rights, respect and safety to of you disagree with anything a trans person says you’re transphobic bigot
Just like feminism. They went from equal rights to " although in front of the law I have an advantage for being a woman in a civilized country, I still want more, because... *any bs available* " Bro, I pay 41% taxes of what I earn in Spain, that s more than 4000 euros every 3 months. Let me tell u what happend last month, on 8 march, the gov basically gave 20.000 millions for " equality politics ", meanwhile inflation is spreading, the gas is fkng the transports (affecting me DIRECTLY), there s also a fkng food crisis, and it started before the shid went down in Ukraine, now it s just worse. Like, mate, I work like 50 hours a week (self-employed Person) and I m supposed to agree witht that???!!! Is that how we stop domestic violence or violence in general since men are at bigger risk of getting their shid rocked? I don t know man, if the economy is in a bad shape, idk how the hell u gonna stop that. The gov isn t dumb tho, they get A LOT of votes from all those half brain misandrists and feminists that have no clue wtf is going on, plus they can rob a lot since that money is not directed to something you can touch, like a nuclear plant, hospitals, etc. Shid got outta hand terribly
"I made a promisse that I wasn't gonna engage in idiotic bad fate debates". He is saying this while vilifying a couple of dudes without even knowing who they are. This is the best example of a 21st century pseudo-intellectual, and the worst part is that thousands of people are actually taking this guy seriously.
It's fucking sad innit All the attention just creates the idea that the platform and thereby position means something, it doesn't. It doesn't mean shit. Just another hole for bad ideas and inadequate debate to go down, and it can stay there as evidence of the idiocy that was given respect in the 21st century. His positions don't stand up to real scrutiny, but his demeanour and work are attractive to enough people at this point in time. He would crash and burn at the same table as rigorous intellectuals and academics that put truth on a pedestal and leave emotionally and personality driven stuff to fall away. Imagine this guy round a table with Sam Harris, or Richard Dawkins or even these Legends on this channel, it would be murder, intellectual murder, and we'd all love it.
@@TheBlackwolf5011 he’s actually not that bad he’s spot on with most topics, although I do think he does get annoying or assumes the worst with peoples arguments and just dismiss people because idk if you know but transphobic arguments are the most dense assbackward arguments ever and then they think science backs their arguments but it doesn’t. So it’s understandable
100% like why do people care about mens sports so much? Because when they are younger the top players play since they are like 5 years old. It’s their whole life, but no Hasan is sayin that ppl shouldn’t care… like ?
@@Wozrop probably not but why does being on that side of the debate mean you are Tucker Carlson? No nuance anymore. If you side with someone you might not agree on 90% of things with. People will pull that 10% thing and say you are a supporter of said person.
Even among men sports, there are some whith weight categorys. In boxing for example, because a hevyweight fighter suddenly would say "I feel small" no one would allow him to compete against lightweights. Sports never were about how you feel, but fair competition and "may the best win". So to allow some people have an unfair advantage over another people, it doesn't matter what excuses you use for it, just knocks off the core meaning of the sports.
My sister was always the athletic one, and she ran in cross country for 2 years. The first time I ran a 5k, I beat her time by minutes. I was not athletic at all and we have the same length of leg, so she shoulda had the advantage. Womens sports needs to be protected at any cost, and I don’t care if anyone called me a transphobe, I’ll gladly be that to protect the female athletes.
I'm not trans, im just sayin that dudes always have a decent advantage over women, even trans or outtashape. As an athlete I hate these people that say "I dont care about female sports" because female and male athletes care about them.
I feel Preach's pain on this subject! It doesn't matter what we say or do, because we don't automatically agree with everything, we'll be regarded as transphobes either way. Great content gents 🙌🏾
Yep. I’ve been regarded as such for disagreeing on matters unrelated to trans issues, which I’m in favor of. It’s just this kind of person. There’s no reasoning.
