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Hasbro, Mattel and the the Toy Aisle Treaty 

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@BadAssXerx3
@BadAssXerx3 3 года назад
As a Child I was mostly in Mom and Pap Toy Stores
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
The best place to be
@3Storms
@3Storms 3 года назад
McFarlane is under the radar these days, but they really did bust open the toy aisles to brands that are NOT the big ones like Hasbro Mattel, Galoob, etc. Now we have more variety of brands because of them while they're all but marginalized. They deserve far more credit than the industry and toy collectors give them
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Oh yes, that is why Mattel tried to sue them and shut them down out of the gate
@luiszuniga2859
@luiszuniga2859 3 года назад
Captain Barbossa: the code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Exactly
@exoticcarfactsofficialchan7050
@exoticcarfactsofficialchan7050 3 года назад
Disney to Mattel: "The shroud of the dark side has fallen. Begun the Doll War has." 😂😂😂
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Not that far off
@jamesjustice4515
@jamesjustice4515 3 года назад
Spector you and ur family have a good day and god bless. Wonderful show young man
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
And to you as always!
@jamesjustice4515
@jamesjustice4515 3 года назад
Hey Spector good morning. This is sledgemaster. Watching a great show on separating the toys and future collectibles
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Go go go!
@jamesjustice4515
@jamesjustice4515 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 hahaha. Young man ur doing the going and only thing I'm doing is the watching. I guess its called working together or as we say in weightlifting, working out. Hope you all are doing good
@Owazrim
@Owazrim 3 года назад
Informative and interesting as always. I had no idea of these unwritten... guidelines.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Very unwritten and very guidelines
@gerrysabron
@gerrysabron 3 года назад
appreciate these look back videos, like strolling down the memory lane of my childhood in the late 80s/early 90s...I always thought Matchbox was Hot Wheels competitor.. I also enjoyed those play dough ads though I didn't get into it..Miss TRU & Kbs
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I miss play doh
@squigin3380
@squigin3380 3 года назад
This sounds like these companies aren't too far from having a Monopoly on types of toys. Sounds like they do essentially have a monopoly in big box retail stores on specific types.
@tawdryhepburn4686
@tawdryhepburn4686 3 года назад
Welcome to late-stage capitalism. It’s this way in almost every industry. Worse in many.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
They did try, especially in the 80's and 90's
@YeldellGW
@YeldellGW 3 года назад
Hasbro didn’t make dolls?! Jem would like to have a word with you.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
OH they did, and Mattel hit hard back. See the Netflix "Toys that Made Us" Barbie episode. It is a perfect example of this
@nicholasdickens2801
@nicholasdickens2801 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 Ah and what of Bratz, wow, what a doll war that was.
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 3 года назад
I heard you describe the Mattel logo as a "gear" towards the end there, and after wondering what the deal was with that logo for years (though never strongly enough to look it up, as I'd usually forget soon enough and go on with my day before I could), I can totally see it. Have you done a video explaining how that logo came to be? Maybe I could look it up, though again, see above, and if you have any insider knowledge about it, I figure that would be better to hear anyway. =)
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
It was just always a gear, as in the moving parts of a toy! I wish their was a bigger backstory!
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 Huh, wild. I meant to say before (but forgot to) that it strikes me as an odd choice, as a gear is not something I strongly associate with any of their major brands. I'm sure some use them, but not as a major part of their identity.
@tawdryhepburn4686
@tawdryhepburn4686 3 года назад
Man, another weird job I had... I used to work for MGA, too. I got to see a video of a focus group of mock jurors looking over the evidence for a jury trial regarding Bratz v Barbie. Fascinating stuff.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Wow that must have been insane!
@tawdryhepburn4686
@tawdryhepburn4686 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 wish I could share more, but I DID sign an NDA for that job. (technically didn’t for the Lit Management firm though...)
@rolandkatsuragi
@rolandkatsuragi 3 года назад
7:08 Sounds like with these ever growing monoploies it's more of a case for antitrust to be discussed
@BrickSomething
@BrickSomething 3 года назад
Yup. Shared this elsewhere in the thread, but fits here too: “What this described is the definition of a Trust, which is what ‘Antitrust’ laws are supposed to address, but U$A.” Imagine if Toyota and Honda agreed one company would only sell trucks, SUVs, and compact cars in the US auto market and the other would only do sedans, motorcycles, hybrids, and electrics, so as not to compete with each other here in the U$A. I suspect folks would have something to say about that.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
It kinda should be
@mikeyjhilli
@mikeyjhilli 3 года назад
This was interesting. Thanks. Along this line, I was shocked to see Mattel pick up and produce figures like the old Hasbro wrestling figures. When the Retro's first came out I was shocked to see them. I would have never guessed another toy company to make the line. Seems almost disrespectful. Not that I'm complaining. I picked them up.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Lines and being crossed all over now!
@chrislongbeard
@chrislongbeard 3 года назад
When I first worked at Toys r Us in 96-99 I caught on to this. But chalked it up to they were "staying in their lane" to put it in the parlance of our times.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yeah one of those things that is right in front of everyone but no one notices.
@RetroActionUK
@RetroActionUK 2 года назад
Did you make a video about acquisitions in the Toy Industry? (Kenner ➡️ Hasbro). I guess Kenner Products was part of the treaty.
@spaghettijacket7667
@spaghettijacket7667 3 года назад
Bridging the gap between toy and screen. Skylanders gave it a shot. My son was hooked on those guys.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yeah that was prob the closest we had to one of these working
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 Well, there was Disney Infinity, but since it only made *some* of the money and not *all* of the money, Disney decided it wasn't worth their time and shut it down. ;P
@MrColuber
@MrColuber 3 года назад
I wonder how He-Man affected this arrangement.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
It was because of He-Man that this arrangement came about
@nicholasdickens2801
@nicholasdickens2801 3 года назад
Big time.
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 Can you elaborate on that? I was wondering how that could have worked with He-Man's massive popularity in the '80s (or TMNT after), but I don't think you said quite when this agreement took place?
@frognanana4646
@frognanana4646 3 года назад
Hey Scott, I would love to hear your thoughts/explanation about toy guides for lines, or lack there of. Like Mark Bellomo's action figure guides or the Toys of He-man and MOTU by Val Staples/Pixel Dan
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Oh I love them! It is like having a full toy line at your finger tips. I even did a big plug for the He-Man book last week
@frognanana4646
@frognanana4646 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 I wish that there were more out there , especially for TMNT.
@iampoch01
@iampoch01 3 года назад
That sounded like a cartel to me
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well that is why it was unofficial
@machineman6498
@machineman6498 3 года назад
Nerf crotchbat. Had to pause for a minute to compose. Thank You!
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I do try
@BrianGeers
@BrianGeers 3 года назад
Wasn’t the “crotchbat” gag based on an actual issue parents had reported with Nerf bats where kids were taking the nerf parts off and attacking each other with the hard part beneath? I seem to vaguely remember a news item like that many moons ago.
@DominusTecum316
@DominusTecum316 3 года назад
6:21 what an odd toy to produce. Is it the name that made it popular to entice kids to want to buy it? Of this a real product with that name?
@BrianGeers
@BrianGeers 3 года назад
@@DominusTecum316 It’s a joke ad. At the time, Nerf was marketing Nerf Bats but I believe parents were reporting children removing the Nerf padding and hitting each other with the hard plastic/metal rod part of the toy.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Or just SNL being silly
@diggingattycho7908
@diggingattycho7908 3 года назад
To me that model makes a great deal of sense. Complementary products do have a much better chance of selling if they are in the same proximity. It benefits all involved, not unlike the amusement park industry, parks in the same proximity feed off of each other.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yeah it keeps the toy world goin round...
@MatticusPrime1
@MatticusPrime1 2 года назад
Would be interested in a video about the history of toy companies buying other toy companies.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 2 года назад
I’ll add it to the list! Thanks
@philaga6003
@philaga6003 3 года назад
Long live Aisle 7C!
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
To infiniyt and beyond
@drillerdev4624
@drillerdev4624 3 года назад
I know chances are slim, but: Do you know Tente? It was an spanish construction block brand back in the 80's and early 90's which actually managed to compete with Lego back in the day, with an style more geared toward realistic designs, and pioneering the buildable transforming robots with RoBloks (unless you count something like Blockman)
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I"m not familiar with it, but I will certainly look it up!
@lawrenceweitzel6809
@lawrenceweitzel6809 3 года назад
I remember Tente as space style building toy in white, blue and chrome very tight locking bricks most looked like a bug with big wheels only had small kits and their was some comercials 70s 1980s 😄
@drillerdev4624
@drillerdev4624 3 года назад
@@lawrenceweitzel6809 Yep, their biggest sublines where mostly classic looking space stuff and warships.
@TheBigOrangeCat
@TheBigOrangeCat 3 года назад
Yes. I remember Tente blocks and robots!
@HessTruckBOOKS
@HessTruckBOOKS 3 года назад
Just by replacing names this can easily be a mafia (any mafia) video
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well they did make toy guns for many decades...
@arctrooper999
@arctrooper999 3 года назад
When you mention screens.... like 7 years ago Lego had $50 sets where you build with the bricks and scan it with a phone or tablet and create a virtual city...sounds cool but none of our devices between like 7 people worked with it! We never got it to work! Those parts ended up getting dumped into the big lego bin.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yeah this combo of screen and toy just is a struggle
@TheBigOrangeCat
@TheBigOrangeCat 3 года назад
Scott: dividing the market between competitors by agreeing not to enter into each other's cathegories is a form of collusion and it's completely illegal. There were even meetings as you told in the video, and the fact that it is unwritten does not make it less illegal.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I"m not saying it wasn't
@Scrimjer
@Scrimjer 3 года назад
Where did Majorette go did hot wheels push them back to sales in Europe, I also don't see Wellys
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I don't know the specifics but I;ll see what I can dig up!
@paluxyl.8682
@paluxyl.8682 3 года назад
As someone from Europe , I still see some Majorette cars in stores ... but not so many like back in the days . Last time I was in a store with bigger model cars I have seen many Welly cars here in Germany . I personally understand why Majorette cars are no more so often in stores ... you can easy notice the difference in quality to other cars of Hot Wheels , Matchbox or Siku .
@Scrimjer
@Scrimjer 3 года назад
@@paluxyl.8682 there was a toy store in Munich that was amazing
@hawggie
@hawggie 3 года назад
fun fact: Walmart cals the "blaster" aisle as "Active Roleplay"
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Nice
@williamthompson5504
@williamthompson5504 3 года назад
Lionel Playworld, Hills and K-Mart where my stores.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Good stores them all
@aaronburrell3729
@aaronburrell3729 3 года назад
In a Walmart, a McDonalds sells a fish sandwich (as many as you want) right along a Big Mac (the object that keeps them profitable there), even though the fish sandwich isn’t and never will be a profit maker. So why cant the toy companies do the same for the action figure/preschool toys relationship?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Money, licensors and bandwidth
@knightwolfpro4494
@knightwolfpro4494 3 года назад
Ironically it seemed like after After Ever High came out (the children of the fairy tales) Disney came up with the idea of Disney Descendants (the children of Disney fairy tale characters). Certainly seemed to me like Disney Stole Mattel's idea that they didn't like doesn't it? There was a rumor that the reason Ever After High was ended was because Mattel was trying to get back the Disney Princess License again, do you know if that was true? I personally loved the EAH high line, even more the MH.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I wouldn't put that rumor to bed
@theboundaryedge3926
@theboundaryedge3926 3 года назад
Hey Scott, what are the chances of Mattel ever making Star Wars action figures?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well they did pitch for Ep 1 and lost it. I'd say it is possible but not anytime in the next 2-3 years.
@vincesierra555
@vincesierra555 3 года назад
Hasbro gave Mattel competition for sure with GI Joe and Transformers, both still going strong to this day. Aside from He-Man I don’t really see any other significant action figure lines from Mattel. Don’t get me wrong, I loved Bravestarr and Captain Power but those never achieved the same level of popularity. Even Secret Wars couldn’t hold a candle to Super Powers, manufactured by Kenner along with Ghostbusters, MASK, Star Wars and all the way up to Batman Returns I believe. I just don’t see them honoring this agreement of action figure exclusivity granted to Mattel.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yup Mattel focused on dolls and cars, Hasbro on action figures and games
@paluxyl.8682
@paluxyl.8682 3 года назад
Actually it's not a Barbie at 7:43 on the throne , it's a Poppy Parker doll made by Integrity Toys (owned by Hasbro) . ^^ I think it would be the final nail in the coffin for Mattel if Hasbro would decide to produce all the Integrity Toys dolls for the mass market .... also Integrity Toys got a very bad brand manager , lol
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Oh that is too funny
@Jake_E57
@Jake_E57 3 года назад
Was the doll thing really where the treaty was broken? This video seems to suggest that, but Mattel had been making action figures for years at that point, which were supposed to be Hasbro's territory, but Mattel had long been making DC action figures and pushed that a lot further when they got the WWE license. It's almost appropriate given how this kind of mimics the territory days of wrestling and their ultimate downfall.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Yes the doll thing was a big one
@psibernight2177
@psibernight2177 3 года назад
So how did Mettel make He-man if Hasbro had the action figure domain? Was it because of the "doll" technicality? Having seen this I'm even more convinced that Mattel created Kevin Smith's MOTU as part of the politic wars now knowing that Hasbro, their biggest competitor gets access to the most successful toy line of all time in 2023. I'm very curious to see how the new adult collector Ghostbusters Afterlife Plasma series makes out in sales.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
This was before the "treaty". The treaty was in the late 80's
@manicmike3952
@manicmike3952 3 года назад
Great vid as always. That ending tho…. Typical Toy Guru blasting on tablets and Game consoles.. lol
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Tablets attacked my village as a child
@xenofett7008
@xenofett7008 3 года назад
It seems like only Spinmaster with their Batman figures and Dollar Tree with their Final Faction brand know how to properly make toys available to the consumer.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
A prob a good reason Spin got the license
@brollicon
@brollicon 3 года назад
Can you do a video of how hasbro does power rangers toys but Bandai asia does the sentai toys that power rangers is based on?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I"ll add it to the list
@AlmightyCRJ
@AlmightyCRJ 3 года назад
One example which might catch eyes - How much of the Mighty Morphin was from Zyuranger or an earlier (8" figure Fiveman) line.
@Canoby
@Canoby 3 года назад
Why does this whole agreement between toy companies remind me of Stringer Bell trying to form the New Day Co-Op on The Wire, but with less profanity?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well because toys are less profain
@rodrickadamginsburg8960
@rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 года назад
21.8K 😎
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
On the road again
@skaervan
@skaervan 3 года назад
Think you might want to update yourself a bit on the NERF product line. They havent used sticky tips in atleast 5 years. And dominating the blaster isle? Not so much.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
I've been wrong before
@ScareglowSkull
@ScareglowSkull 3 года назад
Please PLEASE make a video of Mattel vs Mc Farlane!
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Interesting...
@FNHot
@FNHot 3 года назад
Scott just trying to tell us something interesting, accidentally gets the whole toy industry taken to court.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
D'oh!
@daximil
@daximil 3 года назад
I love Disney. Used to work at one of their parks. Right now I'm planning to move back there. But you don't efff with them. You efff with them and bad things happen.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Cast members are awesome people
@daximil
@daximil 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 I met some wonderful people working there.
@anthonyratcliffe119
@anthonyratcliffe119 3 года назад
Sad Kenner is no longer around.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
They did have some say in the day
@LBDNytetrayn
@LBDNytetrayn 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 And then they went away. Off to Rhode Island, never again to play.
@rodrickadamginsburg8960
@rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 года назад
AH, Secret treaties… So apparently the toy companies didn’t know how World War I was finally brought about….
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
That was the one with the zombies right?
@rodrickadamginsburg8960
@rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 🤨
@rodrickadamginsburg8960
@rodrickadamginsburg8960 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 Was this your attempt at bad Jewish Humor????
@phillipcoonce4481
@phillipcoonce4481 3 года назад
So it's kind of like when WWF started erasing the territory wrestling in the early 80's.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
In a way yes
@AlucardNoir
@AlucardNoir 3 года назад
That's what they get for forming a trust.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Or an anti trust
@julythrunov
@julythrunov 3 года назад
Nerf Darts stick...huh?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well to a window
@ZergS4uc3
@ZergS4uc3 3 года назад
mattel needs to push hard against lego, mega needs to get at least half the isle(realistically id like it to be a 40/40 split and 20 going to the none big dogs). im advocating for a mattel lego war, lego has taken too many licenses from mega and needs to be knocked down a peg
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
LEGO is a big competitor
@JustinTyme33
@JustinTyme33 3 года назад
This sounds like collusion.
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Or shanagins
@JustinTyme33
@JustinTyme33 3 года назад
@@spectorcreative1872 you have really grown on me. At first I thought you were like management coming down talking to the guys on the floor. I now realize you are one of the guys.
@theboundaryedge3926
@theboundaryedge3926 3 года назад
Or Hasbro getting WWE?
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Well things fall apart
@AidanAtSuperStudios
@AidanAtSuperStudios Год назад
what ever happens I hop mattel doesent buy hasbro because nell just ruin Hasbro like they did with thomas and friends
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 Год назад
I imagine Disney will buy one of them eventually
@joeholtster1891
@joeholtster1891 3 года назад
Hasbro aka Hasbeen
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Oh no name calling! ;-P
@jamesjustice4515
@jamesjustice4515 3 года назад
Hey Spector good morning. This is sledgemaster. Watching a great show on separating the toys and future collectibles
@spectorcreative1872
@spectorcreative1872 3 года назад
Glad you always enjoy Sledge
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