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Hats styles in the Old West
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@MuzzleFirst 7 лет назад

People definitely took more pride in how they dressed back then. Lots of info, thanks for sharing.

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

I think that every time I go to the supermarket and see some lady buying cigarettes in her pajamas.

@eliotreader8220 2 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders besides that a hat was needed to keep the sun out of their eyes

@user-ow7tz5cc6o 6 месяцев назад

@@eliotreader8220 yes, I wear a cowboy hat, not because of the style of how functional it is keep the sun off my face and neck and it looks nice too

@martinaraujo2555 5 лет назад

That "Montana crease" was the most popular crown shape in Mexico for a very long time. Hats made of palm, felt, or rabbit fur of various styles and purposes all shared that crease

@brianfuller7691 5 лет назад

Hats are both functional and fashionable. A cowboy or laborer needed function while a townie often sought fashion. Great video.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

Thanks!

@S3b0rg 5 лет назад

I will trade you 2 refined for those hats, no refunds

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

HA!

@effigytormented 4 года назад

Oh ho a team fortress 2 reference!

@jbmbryant 5 лет назад

Funny Video! Btw in Victorian Times, you never told a woman that she spotted her skirt (you know, her period). Instead you told her 'Pardon me ma'am, but that horse you're riding has a leaky saddle. (Yes, that's a joke) I guess you could call rhat the Victorian period.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

HAHAHAH!

@avlrez 2 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders Santee I adore you literally

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

@@avlrez Much appreciated!

@avlrez 2 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders holy lord you responded I literally love you so much

@Rumblestrip 5 лет назад

Kepis were around as well as foragers caps from military service. I sport a kepi pretty regularly even today. Works well with this high backed seats we got in semis these days, and I keep my mule kick around for more inclimate weather...snow rain, etc. I know, I'm odd. But the fade of my hats was earned not made. Lol

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

Yeah, they work better in vehicles than cowboy hats, I'm sure!

@TitusCastiglione1503 4 года назад

19th century Kepis are the best looking hats of that time, IMHO.

@tulemike6627 6 лет назад

i want to get a palm leaf hat 'cause they keep your head cooler you can shape them.don't know if it's historically accurate but i have other hats that are if needed.just want it to wear around town in an AZ. summer.

@janerkenbrack3373 Год назад

The Bowler (called a derby in the US) was the most popular cowboy hat in the old west. It had good utility for work, and looked good when dressed up in town. Hat kept out the rain and sun, and kept in the body heat.

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Not so much down here in the Southwest. The brim didn't do a lot of good keeping the sun out. Larger brims were the key, here. However, in town it was the perfect hat, and very common.

@janerkenbrack3373 Год назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders Of course there was variation by area, but broadly speaking it was the most popular hat in the old west. Notwithstanding what Gene Autry wore in the movies.

@elton.lanierfreebird1236 7 лет назад

Great channel. ....a breath of fresh air.

@lawrencelewis2592 Год назад

There used to be a Stetson factory outlet store in Danbury Connecticut. I bought a fedora there and paid by cheque. They never deposited the cheque and I later found out they had gone out of business. So, the hat was free and it eventually became a free lunch for moths. Danbury was once known as "hat city."

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Wow!!!

@ColinStuart 6 лет назад

Santee, good to not have to drive so far to get to see you again! Cap'n Billy

@KowboyUSA 5 лет назад

When Santee's top hat is an actual top hat it's going to be a top notch hats episode.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

Hmmm.....may have to use that one.

@bobhartman2571 7 лет назад

I like it Santee, you always bring up interesting views of the West.

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Thank you very much, Bob!

@brianfuller5868 5 лет назад

I am fascinated by hats and particularly Victorian-Edwardian hats. Good video.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

Thank you.

@matelotage723 2 года назад

Odessa is a Calico Regular! I've known her for a long time playing banjo at events in Calico Ghost Town in Yermo.

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

She's good people.

@indigowolf556 2 года назад

You know something as simple as the dance I guess in the hat I've noticed but never really paid attention to. You learn something new everyday. Yee Haw🤠

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

🤠🤠

@roblowe9283 4 месяца назад

Great Show !!!!!!!

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 месяца назад

🤠

@davidmussack4529 4 года назад

Another good video. I wonder how I missed your channel all this time.

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Thanks!

@old-timeangler5356 4 года назад

Love your videos, educational and funny ,

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Thank you!

@tscream80 4 года назад

The "Montana crease" looks familiar... inspiration for the hats worn by the National Parks Ranger, mayhaps?

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Yes!!

@job38four10 11 месяцев назад

The two hats that stick out to me is, Abe Lincoln and Hoss Cartwright..........

@ArizonaGhostriders 11 месяцев назад

And tall ones

@maskandvaccinefreeandproud2110 3 года назад

I could stand out in a North Dakota wind storm and my cowboy hat ain’t going nowhere. Lol

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Wow! That's a good fit.

@maskandvaccinefreeandproud2110 3 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders 71/8 on the nose.

@joep4235 7 лет назад

good morning Big Cheese! Hat "handling" seems to be one of your hidden talents !

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Yeah, I was in the theatre a lifetime ago. Learned some things. Cane tricks, walking on barrels, that sort of thing.

@linbluearrowmusicchannel6508 6 лет назад

Arizona Ghostriders Watched and liked.

@liamgalwey5616 5 лет назад

Over my short life I have had two cowboy hats.My first I got around when I was 6-8 years old.It was a white felt hat.Looked pretty similar to the hat used in the ‘hats on a budget video’.My second I got this year when I’m 14 becoming fifteen in a few months.It is a fake leather hat I got in the Gold Coast from a souvenir shop.It ain’t much but I like it.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

Then rock it, young man! When you get older your tastes may change yet again and there may be another hat! It's exciting, really!

@liamgalwey5616 5 лет назад

Arizona Ghostriders I hope to make as much use out of my current But leather doesn’t really change it shape on it own.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

@@liamgalwey5616 over use it will. When you sweat in it or it gets wet, there's a great chance it will change Especially if it is not re-molded some back to the original shape before it dries.

@liamgalwey5616 5 лет назад

Arizona Ghostriders I thought you had to use proper water.Thought sweat had too much salt in it

@panamabrad 7 лет назад

Good times lol.Love the hat vids.I need to get a couple of mine refitted and steamed.Too bad mr Holster ain't close by ,he is the hat master.I would like to get my resistol silver color that ive had for 15 yrs fitted and formed.I have more of a oval shape and i think not knowing i got more of a round version years ago.Thanks for sharing.I would like to see some vids of your local western stores since you guys are in the heart of western hat and boots lol.I did get a pair of tony lamas from the factory back in the early ninties in el paso when my x and i met up with former chief of police in el paso .Bet he had some stories from 70's .He new the lama family etc.Good times.

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Batjac and I will post some vids from local western stores for you. Cool about the boots.

@panamabrad 7 лет назад

Thank you kind sir.I and many others i am sure,would appreciate it.Have a good day.

@americanaxetoolco2076 3 года назад

Very cool video! I have several cowboy hats of different styles! Never owned a derby or a top hat! Hmm lol

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

You should!

@BlazeLeeDragon 3 года назад

great stuff as always...would you consider doing a how to clean your hat video? I have an outback trading company Kodiak hat, and the sweat band could use some cleaning and I'm sure the inside of the hat in general could use some cleaning. I mean the outside I've seen the hat sponges and such, but how do you maintain the inside? I'm sure wearing them all the time in all sorts of heat will get them pretty dirty, even on the inside.

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

I will do that. Make me think that I gotta clean mine!

@rottenroads1982 10 месяцев назад

Stacking Hats on top of each other. That is Exactly what Top Hat Society Leaders do. They Stack Two or more hats on their heads to make themselves look cooler.

@ArizonaGhostriders 10 месяцев назад

🤠

@bigblue6917 4 года назад

As you probably know the Derby, or Bowler hat, originated as the head wear for the bailiff's who were local police for large British country estates in the 19th century. The were worn to protected the head while riding in case they had a collision with tree branches while on the look out for poachers.

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

I didn't know that. Thanks. I will probably do one on Derby's at some point.

@sam2cents 2 года назад

As the Stetson only appeared in 1865, was there a particularly popular "cowboy hat" before this time, or what would look authentic for, say, the 1850s?

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

There were a lot of wide-brim low crowned hats out there. Not too dissimilar to Stetson's style.

@marcosaraiva9205 4 года назад

Stylish hats! The old myth created by Hollywood black hats for outlaws and white for the the heroes...has myth goes always sounds great to me Santee!

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Thank you!

@CaliforniaFly Год назад

I really like my straw Stetson. I have one made by Resistol also.

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Great companies!

@jimmymoreno6527 6 лет назад

Totally diggin your channel. My friend and I will be at the 25th anniversary release of Tombstone. You guys gonna be there?

@ArizonaGhostriders 6 лет назад

Gonna try! Thanks for watching.

@ZhatFatScav 4 года назад

Hey Santee, got another quick question, I sent you a tweet about this but I'm not sure you saw. I've got a Civil War US Cavalry hat I love wearing, and it has one side of the brim pinned to the crown of the hat. Now I was thinking of getting another one, but without the emblems and cord for my Deputy Character to replace his Well worn bowler hat (whihc I also wear in RL so she's in dire need of replacement) but I don't know if Civilians did the same thing, pinning one side of the brim to the corwn, as I know that in the army they used ot do that to make sure their hat wasn't in the way of their gun.

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

There was actually a hat during the Indian Wars that had hooks for this very reason. I mention it in the Dressing the Part: Cavalry episode. I'm sure a civilian would do it, if there were a purpose for it.

@ZhatFatScav 4 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders thank you very much, I haven't watch the cavalry episode yet, hence why I didn't know. I'll keep this in mind, thank you c:

@larry1824 4 месяца назад

Love Pine Ridge style

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 месяца назад

ok!

@foxstar612 5 лет назад

Weird question, were stampede strings used back then?

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Yes. There is documentation and photos.

@robmarshallofficial 3 года назад

Would be good to see how the various hats are made

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

One day I'll have to interview a hatter.

@strangerodditiesshow2891 7 лет назад

funny stuff. hahahahaha thanks for naming the hat store.

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

You got it, brother!

@benjaminrivera8275 2 года назад

Hey Santee Do a video on enlisted soldier in the old west. How they lived and their duties. What they did after their enlistment . Sign Benny the Blade USMC

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

Thanks, Benny. Appreciate your service, too, Marine. Semper Fi.

@heyhocodyo1997 4 года назад

I love his black hat he wears......classic

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Thank you!

@NOSchild Год назад

The fruit hat 😂 I was wondering what the old west pimp hat looked like

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Just like that! LOL!

@TheArizonaRanger. Год назад

Did they ever wear "crushables" historically? Or was it typically the stiffer style hat?

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Stiffer. I'm sure there was a crushable hat in the mix.

@JohnDoe-wp6xd Год назад

What kind of hat crease do you have santee??

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

I don't have a crease. It's a telescope crown. Over the years there's a faint dent or two.

@Threewolfs- 7 лет назад

Nice vid, never leave the house without mine, even just to the mailbox (65 and counting, grey gus, favorite)🤠🔫

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

WOW!

@AustinBuchananAB 7 лет назад

What were the most common hat creases in the southwest?

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Austin, many photos depict an open or flat crown (like in the movie Tombstone). Not to say there weren't creases, because you do see them. A lot of them seem to have no common shape. Just sorta random dents in the hat.

@devencooper3500 7 лет назад

Do you know what the common hats where in the southeast were ?

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

I see a lot of photos where they wear what looks like a slouch hat or variety of it. Floppy brims. Due to the heat, A lot of straw hats, too.

@nfgp4tlognbs94 3 года назад

Hey Santee is there much info about tattoos

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

I did a video on tattoos.

@alwentzel4776 4 года назад

Do a video on leather wristbands or cuffs they are called

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Will do.

@brianonthego 7 лет назад

Seems like the hats made up a big part of their identity. Good stuff. I wonder how many hats a person trys on to get just the right look?

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

83 to be exact. HA!

@brianonthego 7 лет назад

I believe it...this long and I still have not found one that suits me...

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Have you tried something like I wear with a big, somewhat flat brim? Those tend to look good on a lot of folks...including Sophia Loren.

@brianonthego 7 лет назад

I will remember that.

@toastedlime3627 3 года назад

Where are some places that sell actual hats like these and are good

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Goodwill sometimes has Stetsons, Resistol, and Baileys and great prices (used). New ones can be had at Wild West Mercantile and River Junction Trade co.

@toastedlime3627 3 года назад

Arizona Ghostriders thank you so much

@markphillips4645 4 года назад

Hi Santee, I normally keep my Stetson in its box but can I hang it from elk antlers? The only thing that’s stopping me is the fear that I’ll misshape or damage my hat. Any help would be appreciated

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

It may alter the shape slightly, but usually not too bad. you could put a hat stretcher in the crown to keep the shape.

@LionquestFitness 7 лет назад

LOL - good one guys!

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@lusolad 6 лет назад

Is it true that Billy the Kid like to wear or preferred the sombrero?

@ArizonaGhostriders 6 лет назад

Many southwestern folks wore sombreros. Including Texas Rangers, cowboys, and outlaws. I've read that Mr. Bonney did fancy one. True West Magazine's Bobe Boze Bell did some artist renderings with Billy in a sombrero.

@lusolad 6 лет назад

The "Sugarloaf" truewestmagazine.com/history-of-the-cowboy/

@leatherface1136 4 года назад

Nice magpul tshirt

@johnmarston9999 2 года назад

Can you do a vid on pinned up hats? or just slouch hats?

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

I've mentioned the pinned up hats from the cavalry. They actually had a hat with clips on it so you could raise the brim that way. Cool.

@johnmarston9999 2 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh my god you responded that's so cool! And thank you I had no idea I' have been trying to pin up this one hat years ago and I gave up on it. I had no idea you could make clips for it in order to pin it up.

@AZSP1966 4 года назад

I have a question for Dan. Was Santee ever in a barbershop quartet?

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Dan's tied up with a gig, but I can tell you no, he was not. -Santee

@AZSP1966 4 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders Not trying to be mean but I saw the straw hat so I had to ask.

@kateen3915 4 года назад

I've always wanted an Annie Oakley style ladies Stetson

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

I bet you can find them. If not, have one custom made!

@johnstewart8849 3 года назад

Note the NUTRIA fur....they were imported to WA and OR, as beaver pelts became more scarce. interesting fact: the nutria is a FISH....by Papal decree. The natives of South America were totally dependent upon the nutria for food, but the Pope said they must eat fish on Friday. That caused an uproar, so the Pope declared the nutria to be a fish....problem solved. Next time you’re out eating salmon, say: “I don’t know...Mine tastes like nutria.”

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Interesting facts! Thanks.

@LowPlainsDrifter60 Год назад

I think you're confusing the Montana peak crease with the Montana crease. The Montana crease (more often called the Gus crease now) is what the fella on the right, eatin' yer grapes is wearing at the end of the vid.

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

I think you may be right!

@Grynslvr2 5 лет назад

Just curious. At 1:14 Stetson's advertisement says the hat is made from nutria fur. Words tend to change over time, but the nutria I know about are semi aquatic RATS, not beavers. Was Stetson using cheap South American rat fur, or was "nutria" another name for beaver at the time?

@guylewis7418 5 лет назад

Islander 113, I'm not an expert, but from what I've read nutria makes a fine felt. Supposedly, it's better than rabbit fur felt, so it's used a lot in blends.

@Grynslvr2 5 лет назад

@@guylewis7418 Thanks for the attempt, but that really doesn't answer my question. Thanks again.

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Nutria is not actually a beaver. However, that was not used until 1900.

@thomaslietzau2813 Год назад

HAVE YOU DONE ONE ON HAT RESHAPEING

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Yes!

@josephhouseman9482 6 лет назад

Santee, you do look a lot like Randy Quaid, a lot.

@alexs5744 5 лет назад

How common were stovepipe hats during the days of the old west. I know they were popular during the early to mid 19th century but what about mid to late 19th century.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

It was popular up until the mid-1900's. Mostly associated with formal wear...like today.

@lusolad 4 года назад

Would this include tophats? I have nice one I would like to use but can't prove it woulda been used by common folk(like a scout, hunter, outlaw)

@lusolad 4 года назад

Plains Indians and tophats....www.thefreelibrary.com/Top+hats+on+the+plains.-a0148358497

@lusolad 4 года назад

Crow Indians, ca 1900....I think they may have just been given these hats as gifts... not sure they woulda worn them daily. Still a cool image....www.pinterest.com/pin/253820128976534549/?%24ios_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549&%24android_deeplink_path=pinterest%3A%2F%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549&amp_client_id=ZCxDdI5tkRGdNgxKbRtK4y-Hcmkq-Y69DNH5J3RNYjy2WV0WrRNqTTLdwsH02GM1&current_page_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Famp%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549%2F&install_id=44f647c49659470dadec029717203710&%24fallback_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pinterest.com%2Fpin%2F253820128976534549%2F%23details&_branch_match_id=719064337658829321#details

@bryantjones6058 5 лет назад

Do you want on old West guns

@claytonj2695 4 года назад

Where did you get that blue hat

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

It's a train conducter hat I found online. Re-made the brim for a prison guard hat.

@claytonj2695 4 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks

@NOSchild Год назад

1:46 I've actually considered that

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

🤠

@josephpace8816 3 года назад

I had an older friend gove me his old dingy hat and I put it under warm water and reshape it to a calvary pitch and flat brim

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Nice job!

@sudlander9447 4 года назад

"What are you do-...Hey! Are you guys eating my hat!?"

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

🤠

@sudlander9447 3 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders I love the hat.

@carolyn2bfree235 6 лет назад

☮️❤️

@richardfalcon1570 4 года назад

Hat wise, my brother thinks I'm a derby guy.🤠

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Popular hat! Both good guys and bad guys wore 'em.

@farpointgamingdirect 3 года назад

Is Batjac of Batjac's hats his real name? That was also the name of John Wayne's production company

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

That's whay he uses the name. Big JW fan.

@farpointgamingdirect 3 года назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders Me too! I have 100 of The Duke's films in my collection!

@led8541 7 лет назад

lol great video

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Thank you, Led!

@anthonycalbillo9376 11 месяцев назад

How many hats has Rex eaten?

@ArizonaGhostriders 11 месяцев назад

Off the head: 3 On the head.....about 86

@anthonycalbillo9376 11 месяцев назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders poor Rex, he's just a big misunderstood boy.

@craigmignone2863 2 года назад

Charley Russel and Fredrick Remmington painted cowboys with a very wide brim and a high crown and a light color what were these toppers and why black in the southwest there wasn't any air conditioning and it does get warm even in October......

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

It does get warm. Black was a classy color. Not seen a lot on cowboys but on society folks.

@OgamiItto70 3 года назад

Carmen Miranda.

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

It happens

@edwardpetty5401 7 лет назад

Funny!

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

Thanks!

@zeptocreations5507 5 лет назад

Valve approved video.

@rebelcowboy6959 3 года назад

The only thing I see now is cattlemans crease

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Yes, it definitely seems that way.

@rebelcowboy6959 3 года назад

My cousin is stupid everytime his horse gets out of the barn he has me get it back in the barn cause he dont know how

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

@@rebelcowboy6959 HA!

@jamieryall8341 5 лет назад

Santee, the Carmen Miranda look suits you.

@ArizonaGhostriders 5 лет назад

LOL!

@oldwestguy 3 года назад

So that's what they mean when they say the hat was a staple of the old west.

@ArizonaGhostriders 3 года назад

Yes!

@jsshous 7 лет назад

This is the kind of stuff that no one thinks about. The kind of stuff that would trip up time travelers... "Sure, he's got that nifty lay-zar gun but he's so dumb he doesn't even have the sense to wear a proper hat!" /;-)

@ArizonaGhostriders 7 лет назад

HA! That's funny.

@markcarsten6848 2 года назад

I love your shows, however i only wish they were not so darn short. I really think that you could do so much more if you were to put more imagination In your content. Just a suggestion, and thanks for listening. The Kilted Vagabond.

@ArizonaGhostriders 2 года назад

Mark, I work a day job and make the videos in whatever time I can find. Now, if you'd like to fund me, I'd be happy to make longer videos!🤠

@jerrtravis8876 4 года назад

who else is watching this with their papas beaver felt resistol

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

lol!

@larry1824 Год назад

All kinds all shapes not just stetson .

@ArizonaGhostriders Год назад

Stetson is a company, not a shape.

@larry1824 Год назад

@@ArizonaGhostriders true true true

@bobbybaldeagle702 5 лет назад

a lot of your videos are way to short.... This one like most of them just gets going and funny and then, it's over. :'(

@limestonemedia 5 лет назад

Everyone likes to mention that the Stetson "Boss of the Plains" was made from beaver fur. In reality it was made from Nutria, which, if you have ever seen one, bears no resemblance to a beaver. It's a type of giant water rat. So essentially, as good as an original Stetson is, it's still made from rat fur. Just a thought.

@ArizonaGhostriders 4 года назад

Actually, it wasn't until 1900 that they started using Nutria. So, the originals, from what I can tell, are beaver.