Rick, to echo the remarks of many commenters here - many thanks for the consistent, thorough and systematic reviews you have presented throughout the years. I have made quite a few air gun purchases based on the information that you (along with corroboration from other reviewers) provided and never regretted any of them. More power to you and your channel!
I bought this gun in the.22 caliber.. I was going to buy the mod 135 but I noticed the mod 95 had come out with the vortex piston so I grabbed it quickly, man I'm glad I did.. I have put over 2500 pellets threw it and it is dead on accurate. I have found that the JSB 15.89 gr and the JSB 14.3 gr pellets are both straight shooters and I have lots of them.. But the pellet that I heard the most complaints about and steered away from was the Gamo Hunters 15.43 gr. Well I bought one can for 4.99 at a local sporting good store to see what was so bad about them and was blown away how accurate they were in this gun at 100 feet, I stocked up.. This gun is a monster for power and at 35 yards it blows right threw 1/2 inch plywood and I mean tears it up. The thing that blew me away the most was when I taped a penny to a 1/2 inch sheet of plywood and backed up 30 feet and fired at the penny.. It went clear threw the penny and cracked it out 3 ways to the edge and still managed to go clean threw the 1/2 inch plywood with a Gamo magnum pointed head pellet, what a shock. This gun is not a toy it is a powerhouse and for 200 dollars it is way more gun than your paying for.. My buddy bought the Gamo bone collector for 79 dollars more and he had to invest in a new DaTuna trigger for 50 bucks more and it sill isn't the gun this Hatsan model 95 vortex is on a bad day.. LOL My grandson can't hardley wait till i'm committed to the old folks home so he can have this Hatsan 95 vortex to himself..
I have one in .25 & I call it "Splat Stick" . It has taken 4 squirrels, 2 rabbits, 1 cotton mouth [poisonous water snake], 6 copperheads [another poisonous snake]so far. And when it hits something all I hear is a "splat". I do shoot with the open sights though. I have found it best effective out to 30 yards.
I just wanted to ring in here and say that I got my model 95 vortex in .25 today, put about 100 pellets through it today so far and this thing is a dang hammer.... it hits extremely hard out to 40+yds, super accurate with the Vortex/H&N 19.91grn dome pellets, even with open sights I was able to consistantly nail a small target that was only 1 3/4" diameter out to 30yds, I think this rifle is exceeding the 650fps mark, Ill know for sure when I shoot it across the Chrony tomorrow, but this thing may become 1st or 2nd place on my favorite break barrel list, this thing is smooth and very powerful and so much easier to shoot than my 125 thats spring powered. I honestly think this rigle is the best bang for the buck hands down.
Hey Rick, I'd like to thank you for all of the advice that you have given me through your videos. I have been searching for an air rifle for around a year now, too many decisions! In my opinion the Hatsan's are the best and prettiest guns for the price. Thanks to your videos I ended up buying a Hatsan 87qe in .22. After seeing its knockdown power in your iguana hunt in Puerto Rico I couldn't resist. I am very satisfied with it. I was also curious if you could do a review on the Hatsan 135 .30 breakbarrel big bore when it comes out. Thanks for the reviews!
Airgun Depot now shows 750 FPS but doesn't say lead pellets. If not lead I'll bet that doubles the sound and loses all kinds of what you want on target. Like precision and smack down as a hunter. Get a JSB heavy pellet and it will slow it down and calm the shooting characteristics. Makes it more enjoyable to shoot. Except for the varmints. Still a great choice for varmints at the home. I'm going to get one and add a Bugbuster scope. Start a light pellet fast and you lose lots of speed every yard out. Start a train and just try to slow it down. Use a moderate to heavy pellet. Anything else is just a hat trick. Be Well Rick, J.Q.
I have the mod 95 in .22 but i was at my local sporting goods store and came across a hatsan airtact in .22 but i cant seem to find any videos in english it says thet .177 does 1300 fps and 22 does 1000 fps and 25 does 750...my concern is does the airtact really do 1000 doing more ft lbs than the hatsan mod 95 .22??
What are the advantages of a gas piston power plant over a spring? I understand about the springer noise factor, but don't gas pistons eventually leak and go bad? Sorry, but gas pistons impress me as much as polymer stocks-John in Texas
Jack - look at the Hatsan MOD 125 series. You may be able to find one at that price point. You want 20+ FPE for Raccoon.. Don't hunt Raccoon with .177 if you can help it. The Best pellet is the most accurate pellet in your gun. Cheers AGW
I noticed that the port hole is much smaller than .25 cal... maybe .177? Can it be that they got lazy and dint drilled it up? Some of my shots bounced back from a cardboard box from 35 yards. Is that port hole .25 cal size on other .25 cal springers or smaller?
Thanks for another very informative video Rick. I'm convinced I want a 95 Vortex in .22 over the Ruger Yukon... In your experience would a .22 Vortex have a similar DB level as the .25 Vortex? How would it compare to the Yukon as it doesnt have a silencer? My concern is a backyard friendly rifle.
Would this make a good entry level/ first air gun? I own many firearms but have always wanted to get some air guns too. How effective is a 22 caliber pellet compared to a 22lr?
Something that people should know, that I found out today. Make sure if you do decide to get the 125 in a vortex, that it comes in vortex from Hatsan. NOT modified from Pyramydair. The camo models they sell with vortex, state they are "retrofitted" by their gunsmiths. Doesn't seem like a big deal, huh? Well, I had to call and ask the obvious question that was on my mind. Since Pyramydair , takes apart the gun and adds a vortex piston to it, that was not there when Hatsan sent it to them, the one year warranty becomes null and void from Hatsan the second Pyramydair modifies the gun. That is something that they won't tell you. You will get a 30 day warranty from Pyramydair, but that is all. Their online support didn't or wouldn't tell me that. I had to call and after asking this question directly a couple of times, did I get the answer. So, beware.
What are your opinions on Walther scopes? I work at Gander Mountain and they carry a 4x32 Walther air rifle scope that has amazing visibility, and 11mm mounts. Would it be an upgrade from the scopes bundled with the Hatsan 125/95 and the Benjamin Trail/Titan?
hello rick 'can you tell me if the hatsan 150th is any good 'I have seen a lot of reviews on it but none in English for all I know they could be saying they use it for a fishing rod 'I cant understand a thing there saying
@ AirGunWeb, for use as a paper "puncher" out to 100yds, which caliber in a gas ram or coil springer rifle would you choose/recommend? .177, .22, or .25 and why? PCP's are out of my price range.
Thank you, great video. I'm stuck between the 125 TH spring piston .25 vs the vortex 95 .25? What model would you choose. Is the vortex piston with wood stock worth the loss of 100 fps? Your input would be greatly appreciated. On a tight budget. I'm aware of the 125 vortex, is it worth the extra Money? What gun in your opinion would last the longest? Thanks Shayne
doin nothing - Either the .22 or .25 will do the job for you. The .25 will deliver more smack on target for sure, but the .22 will be more affordable to shoot. Again, either will have sufficient energy for the job. Cheers AGW
xGelid - at 30 it may still hold a 1" group. At 40 it will have opened up. Best pellets will be the Hatsan Vortex Supreme or the JSB 15.89s. Stay away from crosman pellets. Cheers AGW
+xGelid My Vortex 95 in .25 is a tack driver out to 40yds with Vortex/H&N 19.91grn Dome pellets, I can constistantly put pellets through a soup can at 40yds frm a standing non rested position, Im very impressed with what this rifle will do and it puts a heck of a whop on the target down range.....awesome little rifle and now I know for a fact Ill be getting a 95 Vortex powered in .22 also and maybe even .177 at some point just for fun
Eastern time of this video was 6:38 pm. I have to ask if this fps, and fpe is coming from sea level where i am at, or did this shot review take place higher up? I just ordered the vortex 95 model i really was hoping to get the 650 fps with the JTS hollow point 24.3 grain pellets??!!!
I have one of these now, a question to you ... can you walk around with the cylinder loaded, pre-cocked with a pellet in the barrel, if so for how long?, or do you have to load it each time?
I have a Stoeger S-4000-E suppressed gas ram .22 that, for some reason, is actually stronger on the first shot if I leave it cocked for days. Or maybe it’s just louder? But it gives the impression that’s it’s stronger anyway.
it is as accurate as u can shoot it at 30 yards. using a 14 gr crossman dome pellet. with this pellet at 30 yards you dont get much penetration. at 10 and 15 yards this riffle shoots most accurate with the best penitration. If I would have known this rifle shot so weakly I would have spent more for a hopefully better quality and more powerful rifle
fantastic rifle but the screw which holds the barrel to the stock ( large screw inside the trigger guard) comes loose causing the barrel to move vertically. You will easily notice this because you can feel the movement of the barrel. It has happened 3 times. I don't want to glue it in incase I have to take the gun apart. Check it periodically and keep it tight.
Hi Rick, nice videos and reviews, I have a question, do you know or better yet had the opportunity to try the Gamo Elite Whisper IGT ??, I want to buy it but I'm from CHILE, South America and I can't find reviews about it. As you are to guy to go to in this matters, can you tell a little more about it like accuracy at 25 yards, performance, etc. Or compare it to another gas ram rifle please. Thank you very much, from South America.
Stay away from gamo my friend. I owned shadow 1000, shadow dx, bone colector and delta. They wont last you for a long time, you cannot have the scope to stay still because of the mount even with loc tite. I think you need to have to get some research done about a new air rifle.. thats my opinion... of course if you dont mind zeroing it in every 50 shots or less (without loc tite its like 20 shots literally)... go ahed. But again im not an expert by any means im just giving you my opinion.
João Rebocho There are some Gamo guns that are better than others. I have the Whisper Fusion IGT in .22 and it is a great gun. Still going strong. The new Gamo Whisper G2 in .22 is also very good. The factory scope mounts don't work well, and the bundled optics can be subpar, but the base gun can be very good and reliable. Gamo has released some lemons as well. Cheers, AGW
Why does the .25 have less muzzle energy than the .22? I know it's going slower but why not make it a little more powerful? The .25 would be a great hunting rifle if it had 28-33 fpe at the muzzle and stay under 1100 fps for accuracy
it's the physical limitations of the gun. It's about volume. the 125 provides more volume.. more volume = more power. The 135 more so. The power plant on the mod 95 is running at max. There's no way to get "more" out of it. You can make the most of it by changing seal materials which will help some. Cheers AGW
Rick,great video,i have a problem with my model 95 25 caliber,hope u can help out.what is the resistance when loading a pellet in my gun,when i put a pellet in the breech there is no resistance what so ever,can turn the breech toward the ground and the pellet falls out,tried 8 different pellets all the same problem,not much accurate then a slingshot,could i have received a lemon?Thx Andy
Hey Rick. I have a question about my Hatsan mod 95 vortex in .25 cal. When i recieved it today. I noticed the trigger has a lot of play side to side. Also, when cocking it, it makes kinda of a honking noise and when i return the barrel to the battery position, it makes a slight grinding sound. I oiled the cocking arm hoping that will help some. Do you think my gun is defective, or just a new rifle?
The lateral slop in the trigger is normal.. The honking should go away in 50 to 100 shots.. if not, contact hatsan usa via their site for instructions. The rough feel when closing the barrel should go away as well. If not, same thing, contact Hatsan USA and they'll get it sorted out for you. cheers AGW
Hi Rick, Really enjoy your reviews. Old man here ,68, just started shooting airguns 2 yrs ago, hooked. I saw on Hatsan site where they have a 95 qe fully shrouded barrel. You know anything about it. Thanks Jim
+James Marcum - hey there.. don't have an ETA on the 95 QE yet. I just got in my 87 QE and it's very nice so far. Looking forward to shooting it more. Cheers, AGW
+Nordland796 - ah.. this is the one I was looking for.. I knew I had an article on this www.airgundepot.com/decibel-loudness-comparison-chart-article.html Cheers, AGW
Im looking for pellet gun for small game dont know which one .22 .25 and what brand I like the hatsan 95 spring .25 but what about Benjamin models please help thanks
travis mckee - .25 is more effective. I like the Hatsan brand over Benjamin for power and reliability. They have some nicer features as well such as the quattro trigger. Cheers AGW
Hi Rick I'm planning on getting a break barrel to take care of some small game, mainly squirrels. What rifle and caliber do you think will do the Job the best? I would say I would prefer the rifle to be under 200 dollar's. Thanks!
If you raise your budget to the realm of PCPs, you may be able to find what you are looking for. At $200 I don't know of anything that will do what you want. Cheers AGW
thanks, I was afraid of that, I have a old chevy on the back of my property, me and a friend have $200 bet, and I was hoping to have the advantage of picking the right rifle first...lol
I am thinking about getting this rifle, but I have a caliber question for anyone feeling helpful first. I cannot decide on the .22 or the .25. I will be using mine for a lot of plinking and woods walking, so price is a factor, but I will also be using it for hunting/pest control, so humane kills are a primary concern. I'm not an extremely serious hunter, primarily squirrels at about 20 yards in my backyard, which I see as free lunch. I have neighbors who dont love the sound, I dont know if caliber affects that in airguns, as Ive only ever owned .17. Not looking for definitive answers, just advice from people with real world experience and knowledge, thanks in advance
Rick, between rws 350 pro compact and BSA GRT XL SE Lightning wich one should I take? Im taking .22 (5.5) cal. and I´m afraid to waste more money like I did with gamo shadow dx... Could you also recommend me a good setup? (If you think the cheap scope that came with the dx will do the trick recommend me some rings and mounts please). JR
If you want magnum power go with the 350 Pro Compact. I would get a good scope that holds up to the punishment that some magnum springers will give them. I would get the Leapers DNT06 or DNT05 droop compensator mount. That will hold your scope very sturdy and compensate for the droop as well. The GRT XL SE Lightning is a great gun. It is not a magnum springer but it has plenty of power for rabbits and squirrel. You cannot lose with either. Cheers, AGW
AirGunWeb lets forget this stuff, im giving up on air rifles after knowing that those guns average price is between 700-800 EUROS in portugal. And to buy cheaper sh*t ill stick with my shadow dx... its impossible to buy any kind of gun with those prices for me. JR
Rick, I purchased that browning leverage .22 caliber based on your video review of that gun but was a little let down by the bulky size of that rifle and the lack of knock down power on squirrels. Do you think that Hatsan .25 caliber would a better option than the leverage for those reasons?
Hum.. that's strange. At what range were you having issues with the Leverage and what caliber are you using? It has plenty of power, with the right shot placement, in .22 to easily take down squirrels out to 30 yards. Anyway, the Hatsan .25 has a little more power, and the larger pellet does a great job at putting down game with 1 shot. Range will be the key as you'll want to keep your shots inside 30 yards. Cheers AGW
Hey Rick! Thank you for the review. How would you compare this Hatsan 95 in .22 to an RWS 34 in .22 for use as an all around gun and squirrel hunter? Thanks! Mike
Hey there Mike.. that's a very tough call. I love RWS for their refinement. They are a nicer built gun for sure. I like the Mod 95 for the power. Really tough call on that one. I'd half to flip a coin. If price is a factor, I don't think you would go wrong with the Mod 95. If you're really particular about your triggers, then the RWS 34 will be the right cal. The T06 trigger is nearly impossible to beat. Cheers AGW
The 95 class of guns are much, much better than the Striker line. The Mod 95, 85, 87, etc. they all have the Quattro Trigger which really makes all the difference. Cheers AGW
Hi Rick... love your reviews and Especially your reply's to questions, I probably learn more from them, than the reviews.... sometimes. : ) I notice that you seem to have a great affinity towards the Hatsan 125 in your reply's to folks looking for "power"... what are you thoughts on the 135 ? I love the furniture on the 135, and the power ratings on it.... and, in fact purchased a 135 in .25 (a fan of bigger wound channels when hunting) from PA.... but returned it, as it wouldn't group ANY of my various pellet brands & types, tighter than 3" even at a measly 20 yrds!!.... back to PA it went. Am currently leaning back towards German (again), with the Diana 48 in .22 (wish they'd come out with a .25 in the 48) which I already own in .177... as well as a Weihrauch HW80 (fully tuned) in .22. OK... Question: Which is more preferable for hunting WITHIN 40 yrds maximum when hunting small game and / or, Varmints (racoons / fox etc) WITH A SPRINGER.... a .22 or a .25 ? Is the wound channel size of a .25 cal -vs- .22 cal, REALLY that critical -vs- the "probable" higher FPS and "possibly" higher FPE down range & on target with a .22 cal. ??.... WITHIN, the above stated 40 yrds. Why do the German mfgr's (ie: Diana & Weihrauch, primarily) "insist" on producing what few .25 cal rifles they have between them... with a rating of only 615 fps (or even less)?? I can certainly understand a less "violent" shooting cycle as compared to, say the Hatsan 135 or Hatsan "Patriot" in .25 (also had the Hatsan "Patriot" [Nothing like the Original] from PA.. powerful, but VERY inconsistent shot groupings and wood issues.. returned it for a Benji MRod in .25).... but, I guess my question with those is, is a .25 cal Really "worth" it's caliber with any fps under (say) 720 -or- under 20 FPE, with a Springer ?? Your right about Hatsans "springs"... and their ability to stay cocked for a period of time and retaining their power..... and for their price point, overall.... they are a great value... I just wish, hope & pray.... that SOMEDAY, they might get their proverbial act together and pay a LOT more attention to Quality Control and a little refinement to the shot cycle..... because in reality, the Hatsans (especially their "magnum springers") can truly be a "diamond in the rough"..... IF, and when, they are properly & fully tuned (refined). Hatsan, in my opinion, does have the ability to be THEE worlds No.1 selling airgun.... if they would just have CONSISTENT QC and refinement of the shot cycle, to match their power & (overall) accuracy (even though, the two that "I" was briefly in possession of, would Not group tightly). PS: Have you made any progress with your thoughts about a viable "production" spring compressor, yet ?? I wrote to you about that, some months ago... you said you were "working on it". Cheers: Jim
2Stroke Diesel Power - First of all.. thank you for all the kind words. Now on to your questions. .25 is arguably more effective than .22 if the FPE is the same. In fact, the .25 will give you a greater margin of error on small game. If you want 40 yard accuracy, you need 700ish FPS at the muzzle. The 135 needs to be tuned to be really usable. (in my opinion). When tuned and setup right, it can be a very nice airgun in .25. But it needs work. You can consider a refurbished one from www.airgunproshop.com and have it bullet proofed which is a factory tune that comes with a 1 year warranty. That will get you the energy, accuracy, and refinement that you are looking for. If Hatsan did that from the factory, it would raise the price to the point where they became out of reach for those that really like the gun. As for RWS and other German airguns. They shy away from .25 sporingers.. don't know why.. Maybe they think that .25 should be ruled by PCPs? Just a guess. Now for the spring compressor.. I would love to make them commercially available.. but the market is just not there. I would need to get $400 each just to even consider the paperwork and legal work to bring it to market. I may do an article on it and let people go from there. Not sure when I'll get to it, but that may be the best I can do on that one for now. Cheers, AGW
Airgun Expert & Critic - Rick Eutsler / AirgunWeb Hello again, Rick... and thank you so very much for your prompt reply... greatly appreciated, as are you.... for the work and effort that you put so much into, on all our behalf. Ok.... when you say that the 135 needs to be "tuned" (refined) to be really usable.... "we're" discussing a full tune(?)... which in my thinking, includes not only a "cleaning & lube" and piston seal replacement.... but, also honing the piston tube and removal of Any & All burrs, so that there is no chance of destroying the new seal, polishing & detailing of the trigger mechanisms, particularly at the wear points, etc, etc...... am I correct? Anything else that I left out.... other than possibly "buttoning" the piston for additional ultra smoothness and longevity ?? As I know your more than "just familiar" with Hatsan materials.... if a "FULL" Tune is done, as outlined above... would ANY of the Hatsans, from the model 95, on "up" in the springer line-up.... be capable of lasting (while being properly maintained) nearly as long as any of the aforementioned German manufactured equivalents ?? I guess to simplify.... are the Hatsan components, after a "Proper" and "Complete" tune, capable of a Long life of usage.... in a gun that is handled with care and respect (re: Not abused), shot an average of (say) 2,500 rounds per year, and religiously maintained ??...... ie: say, twenty years(?). I've read numerous postings on the net, in regards to Hatsans wood stocks, cracking due to heavy recoil, especially in the "magnums".... any truth to this.... and "IF" so, is this a regular occurrence, or rare ??..... also, regards to the cracked stock issue.... the ones posting such complaints, stated also, that it was "impossible" to get a replacement stock from Hatsan.... any truth to this, as well... that your aware of, Rick ? Have you had any experience with any of Hatsans underlevers..... ie: the 155 Torpedo ?? I'm not sure what to think about the way they access the breach for loading...... does this setup affect the accuracy any... especially after some time and usage ?? Are there any "concerns" with Hatsans fixed barrel springers, that your aware of ? I have been "eyeballing" the Torpedo 155 (.25 cal) for some time..... but, again... their breach access setup, sends "chills" up my spine for some reason...... are my feelings on that, totally unwarranted.... or not ? As far as the breakbarrels go..... and in .25 cal, which would be Your Personal number One pick, out of the entire lineup from Hatsan..... "primarily" for hunting... and also for some "reactionary" target shooting (on occasion) just for extra fun, with some "punch" to it ?? Has Hatsan Ever, even "entertained" the idea..... of possibly adding .20 cal to their selection ?? I would "love" to have a Hatsan breakbarrel or underlever, in .20 cal. At present, the only .20 cals I have are Sheridans (have three), plus one of the last Crosman / Benjamin / Sheridan C9 "SilverStreak's" in .20 cal. AoA had a used HW80 in .20 cal a few months back.... called them, but was one day too late.... oh well. Would also like to see Hatsan come out with a "Side Lever"..... like Diana's model 48, of which I have one in .177 cal...... I love them for shooting in the prone position, especially. I have to run heavy's in my 48..... to keep it shooting "straight" and be accurate with it..... but, I get a of FPE out of it. One more question:..... I "love" the pcp's out there and certainly can appreciate their "worth"..... however, my one "issue" with them.... is (usually) the extra need for additional "life support" systems, the extra expense of it all.... I "LOVE" the Hatsan BT65 SB Elite (.25 cal)..... I hand pump my Benji MRod (.25 cal) without "too much" difficulty.... what is the air tube capacity of the BT65 ??...... whould they be any "harder" to hand pump, compared to the MRod for any reason ?? My thought is, if the air tube capacity is similar (Mrod is 215cc's).... it shouldn't be any more difficult(?). I have shot a friends BT65 (but, in .22 cal).... and really like it, but want to get one in .25 cal.... if, I can hand pump it.... have also "looked" at the AT44's...... what are your thoughts on the AT44's verses the BT65's.... in general ?? Thank you for enlightening me with "airgunproshop"..... had a "look around" the site before writing back to you, here... I "like" their prices..... and the "bulletproofing" sounds good.... except, they don't seem to do anything with the piston tube, in terms of honing and polishing to remove any burrs and just to finesse it..... seems fruitless to me, to have it all apart, and just replace the seal and lubing it.... without remedying the the number one reason for most piston seal failures while your "in there".... and which "seems" to be one of the most common complaints with Hatsans piston seal failures, from the various blogs that I've read. I can appreciate your thoughts on marketing an appropriate spring compressor..... what would be the possibility of building "custom ordered" compressors.... complete with a signed "waiver" of responsibility (against yourself) by the purchaser..... and If so, how much would you have to have ?? ; ) Made fro, wood.... or steel / aluminum ?? Thank you to, for your input in regards to .22 verses .25 cals.... a confirmation of my own "reasoning" for desiring a .25 cal in a springer...... though, I do already own One .25 cal in a springer, from Mike Melick (and personal friend of mine) in the form of one of his XS28M's (fully tuned & smooth as silk).... actually have Five from him (all fully tuned) in various forms... all .22 cals, except the XS 28M.... and one is his (1500 psi) 2nd Generation "60" pcps... easy to "hand pump" (have Benjamin & a Hill [stage 4] hand pumps) and lots of fun... also two Benji Disco's, .177 & .22 cals.... the .22 I got for my wife, I have TKO "brakes" on both to quiet them down (which it sure does), and now waiting on MRod trigger kits for both to arrive, as well as some other "mod" parts, such as external hammer spring adjusters, and hammer springs, etc, etc. I've had a couple of hunting firearms for years..... just got into the sport of airgun shooting in early summer of 2013, with the purchase of my first air rifle from AoA.... a Weihrauch HW80 (.22 cal)..... and so far, the "count" is Sixteen (16).... and still counting. My wife says, "this isn't a hobby... it's a full blown disease !!" lol Thank you, once again... Rick, I sincerely appreciate your time and any further enlightenment you may provide in regards to my questions.... and or, thoughts..... and eagerly look forward to your reply, as your able to. Have a great day...... hope your not "burning up" too badly, down there... where you are. PS: How old is your daughter now??.... last time I seen her, she was the "apple of your eye" and just a "little one" (perhaps 2 or 3 yrs old ?) that you were holding in your arms at the end of one of your video's that you were doing from your "tent" in the back yard of your home, back east (NC ?)....... that was a while ago, now..... How time fly's !! Take Care.
2Stroke Diesel Power - that's a very long message! LOL. When you have time, give me a call. That's the better way to talk about all these topics. As for Naomi, she's 8 now. And yes, time really does fly! Cheers AGW
Hi Rick it's me again. Another question about the hatsan mod 95 vortex in . 22 caliber. Is there any air guns you would recommend over this for hunting rabbits and plinking in this price range? I really appreciate your time.
Thank you for the review Rick Eutsler. Mine is on its way. Just a question, can or is it feasible to install sling studs on this rifle? Thank you Rick!
Terry Brown - Sure you can. Get with HatsanUSA.com via their customer service form and request a price on their sling stud kit. You'll have to replace the front stock screw assembly and install the sling mount in the rear stock by drilling a hole and carefully screwing in the part. Don't try and install standard sling studs, there's no space in the front to do so. Follow these instructions and you'll be fine. Cheers AGW
Rick, will the Hatsan 95 vortex in .25 caliber work well for small game and pest control inside of about 40 yards? Was looking at the model 125 also but prefer a lighter and more compact gun. Just wondering if the power in the 95 is up to task. Thanks for the help.
justin j I think the range on the .25 is going to top out at around 30 yards. If you need to reach 40, you may want to look at the 125 rather. Cheers,AGW
Airgun Expert & Critic - Rick Eutsler / AirgunWeb Rick, I ended up going with the 95 which I love but the scope stop keeps my scope too far forward would it be okay to take off the stop and use the rear screw hole for the stop pin on my mount? It would give my about an inch more space. Or since I have the hawke match rings with double screws on the base would it work without a stop pin? Thanks for all your help, your reviews are great!
justin j The hawke match mounts may hold ok without the stop.. they use a pointed stop pin. If you line that up with the rear screw hole, you should be ok. Let me know how it works out. Cheers AGW
Hey Rick! I just got my Hatsan M125 .22 spring version, and I'm experiencing oil coming from under the Mount Rail. I never show that happening to any of my air rifles before. Any advice on how to solve this problem? As you have stated, the Hatsan is very powerful. I never had a air rifle that made my right cheek feel like I'm getting punched in it every time I fire it, lol. And yes, it is very accurate with my RWS SUPERDOME 14.5gr .22 pellets.
Yasin Abdul Wipe it down thoroughly and keep an eye on it. It may be that there was a lot of residual oils left on the gun. If it persists or you sense velocity or accuracy decrease, then submit a return with the vendor you purchased it from.CheersAGW
In your review of the .22 cal version. You stated it produced about 19 FPE. Why is the bigger caliber, the .25, producing less energy at the muzzle? Also what caliber would be best for 30-45 yard rabbit hunting? I have $210 to spend. I dont want to waste it on something that wont do what i need it to do
Each gun will vary somewhat. Pellet options also make a big difference. There's only a couple of options in .25 where there are so many more in .22. Anyway, you need to up your budget to be 1" consistent at 45 yards. If you are happy with 30 yards, then there are a few guns that I can recommend. The Hatsan 95, Hatsan 125, Ruger Yukon, Umarex Octane, and maybe a couple of others. If you can go up on your budget, look into the RWS 34, 48, and 350. Cheers AGW
AirGunWeb i just ordered the hatsan 95 vortex in .25 caliber. Also ordered some jsb diablo exact kings 25.39 grain pellets. Seeing as i dont have a job yet due to a full schedule with band and school, i cant really make much money to increase budget. Selling my benji titan .22 to get my girlfriend something nice too :) cant wait for my n3w rifle though
The NP XL? I would take the Hatsan 125 over the NP XL. I was not aware that Crosman had the standard Trail in .25. I tried the NP XL in .25 cal and it simply did not make the cut. It was shooting under 600 fps and would not group at 10 yards. Perhaps I got a bad one? I moved on to the next project. Cheers, AGW
Hello Rick; First of all, let me say that I very much appreciate your videos, I find them to be very informative and helpful. Now my question. I have heard that the gas spring is more durable and reliable than the mechanical spring, do you agree with that? Thanks
+Douglas Fenton - depends on the springs and gas rams in question. Generally I've had more success with traditional metal springs. I've had many more gas rams go flat than I've had spring go bad or break. Cheers AGW
The 350 Pro Compact is a very good rifle. If you want a rifle that has more power than the 34 but not as big as the 350 then the 350 Pro Compact is the way to go. Cheers, AGW
I need a break barrel air rifle that can take anything from a rabbit to a raccoon to a fox for under $200 (any caliber) and what are the best hunting pellets for hunting raccoons in .177
if you want more power.. get a more powerful gun. Hatsan's run right at the red line for power. Trying to make them do more will simply break them or cause them to wear out very quickly. Cheers AGW
I have a pest problem with skunk, possum and racoons getting in the feed house, would this hatsan pellet rifle be suffecient for taking out this size pest or could you or anyone else recommend an air rifle that's powerful enough to do so.
I would rather like to see over 20 foot pounds, preferably 25 or more for those pests. The Hatsan Mod 125 is a 30 foot pound gun with good accuracy. I'd look to that for your solution. Cheers AGW
If you've got a feed house in a rural setting with forgiving neighbors, I'd forget the air rifle method. Get a Marlin model 60 semi auto 22LR and a brick of Federal for $150 less than the cost of a Hatsan Sniper. Shoot all day and get those varmints!
AirGunWeb they stoped making it with nitro piston they switched it out with the vortex i never didi get one with at nitro piston but if i order one and purchase the nitro piston seperatly i can send it out to have it swopped but im goin to call and ask first because so far the 125 sniper is the best gun that i can see.
joe roberts Hatsan never used the Nitro Piston. Pyramydair retrofitted guns with it. The Vortex ram is as good or better than the Nitro Piston. The 125 is readily available in the Vortex in all calibers. Cheers AGW
Im gonna buy this gun..i bought a qb78..great gun.accurate but it can barely kill a paper target..lol..so i dont wanna shoot any rabbits or squirrels...but i think this gun should be able to handle that..i hope..im gonna buy it next week when i get paid
You mention that the Vortex delivers equal energy to the respective spring version of Hatsan guns. I don't mean to quibble, but there are conflicting findings on this assertion, as pertains to Hatsan magnum springers, certainly with the .22 and .25 that I have read about and watched on video reviews. I would like to see how the Vortex can be tuned to higher power. Care to elaborate. Great reviews, as always, Rick.
The Vortex rams should produce the same relative energy as the spring gun. Maybe I can do a video about tuning the Vortex Ram sometime down the road. I'll need to pick up a sponsor to cover the production costs.. but it would be a cool video. Cheers AGW
Hello rick after the last time you replyed to me I chose between mod. 34 rws and hatsan44 line. It was easy for me to pick hatsan44 pcps... and for now (sorry for the trouble) I have yet 2 more questions. First what of the hatsan44 you would recommend the most? And second I saw your video about filling pcps and the question is? My air compressor is really "powerfull" (400 bar or something) do you think that in this condition I could use my air compressor? Kindly-João Rebocho P.s. everyone can honestly reply I just directed it to rick because it's his video.
João Rebocho As long as your air compressor is rated at 3000 psi you should be okay. Monitor how you fast you fill your rifle and get ready for some good shooting. Cheers, AGW
If you mean the at44 then all the models are the same except for the stocks and the Long version, if you like good quality steel and wood then get the W version, if you like things simple get the standard version , if you like tactical get the tactical and if you like quiet then get the quiet energy, Also the long version has more shots/power but is more heavy.
João Rebocho I would recommend you buy a small diving bottle of 300 bar to use as an intermediary, I'm not sure how good filling the gun from the compressor would really be. I do not know what pressure the Hatsan tank is filled at, but for what it's worth, I fill my guns to 180 when it's 200 bar factory recommended and 260ish when it's 300 bar. Cheers!
Anything but the Benji XL .25 cal. Hatsan 125, 95, Umarex Octane, Ruger Air Magnum.. If you want .25, then the Hatsan 125 may be your best bet. In .22 any of the above will work very well. Cheers, AGW
Ok, I went the Hatsan 125th which is picky about being held. Then 2 weeks into shooting the trigger locks up ? open it up and just a piece of debris. But to my my surprise I had spring piston and not the nitro as in the stated in the description. Unfortunately just a ( I'm sorry ) response. Question, is it worth having a nitro piston installed ?
totally depends on the product.. not all springs are the same and not all gas pistons are the same. I've had half of all the crosman NPs I've owned go flat.. most just sitting on the rack. I've had very few springs ever fail. For me, a well built spring gun is my preference. The Hatsan Vortex Ram has been very stable for me. And, you can rebuild them if necessary. Cheers AGW
Hi Rick, I would really appreciate it if you could give me a recommendation on a couple of the most accurate gas ram style of air guns for around $300 dollars or less. Thanks, Tony
+Tony Gruber - The new Hatsan mod 87 is a real winner.. for more power and range, the Hatsan Mod 125.. You can also consider the Uamrex Octane, Umarex Fuel, and Ruger Yukon. All good gas ram guns under your $300 budget. cheers AGW
