23:17 Allowing this host 12 years instead of eight to complete the construction of all the stadiums is the cause of "underpaid migrants" working there.
Ian gets so much respect for being always so straight forward and critiquing people! I mean, many people critique other people, but it‘s often behind their backs or in writen form… Ian is different, he does NOT hold back when sitting right there with the person. That takes integrity.
Do you think Ian knows where every morsel of food he puts in his mouth comes from? Do you think he knows where every scrap of fabric he wears is made? How many people being critical of Qatar can claim they've never benefited from the exploitation of labour?
@@tagcoriolis1029 That argument means flagrant violations of conscience are acceptable because no one is perfect. That doesn't work. I could say to you, 'So you have never criticized someone for something you do on a smaller scale?' It would be a silly way to try a silence you. You can still criticize their behavior and people can assess your criticism of them without regards to your behavior. If you think they are being hypocritical, that is an issue separate from their criticism of his participation in the World Cup for money.
@@penguinista The English enjoy a first world status due to the legacy of the trans Atlantic slave trade. Do you think these English hypocrites really care what happens to migrant workers or are they just criticizing Qatar because they are an Arab Muslim nation?
Richard Madeley started very low in my estimation when I first learned of him years ago and I can't quite say why but mainly second hand stuff about him on TV, but I find that every time I see him, which is mainly on HIGNFY, he climbs a few rungs. He actually seems very likeable and principled.
I thought Neville was quite good as a host but kudos to Ian for calling him out on his greed. I am not buying his excuse that he will call out the issues during a live broadcast, and would be very surprised if anyone did, I certainly believe their would be consequences if any pundit did such as expulsion from the country.
Exciting episode! Go Ian! 🌟 And thanks Viva! Too bad we have to wait until April for more. It’s going to be a long winter! Especially here in Montreal! ☃️ To pass the time I should subscribe to Private Eye.
glad to see Ian does not hesitate to criticise someone like Neville face-to-face.His greed is legendary, but Qatar has given him the opportunity to really cash in big time in an amoral way.Keir Starmer is getting some dodgy friends.
Ian's got a history of calling people out. Not the least of which-- and most famously-- was Boris Johnson. He actually seemed somewhat less eager to do it this time around-- but then, "What the hell do we do about the Middle East" is a question for the ages. (You'd think "send them guns and bombs, sometimes active upon receipt" would have gotten checked off the list by now, but... apparently not.)
He's only on pundits money, its a shame he tried to defend Beckham, the real culprit. A man with a haridan of a wife who's only goal is for her husband to get a knighthood so she can be called Lady. He didnt stand in that queue to see the queen for the good of his health!
@@StevieCooper as a lawyer it has been a long time since I sent or received a fax.searching fax numbers is not much different to searching emails. And faxes, like all technology, have their own problems.
Really enjoyed thanks for the download felt a bit uncomfortable watching them tease gary nevel about commenting on the World Cup but that what this shows all about just he’s soo sweet he looked distressed
Yes it’s all great for Ian calling out Gary on the Qatar thing and I agree with him. But did any footballer refuse to go? And more to the point, is our government calling this out by for example imposing sanctions? All this is pure hypocrisy
Ian has the moxy and integrity to only do that kind of thing to a man's face, giving him a chance to defend himself and I'm sure he would have no hesitation to say the same thing to any of the participating players given the opportunity!
They get sanctioned and risk their jobs not going. A wonderful gesture but nit one I'd expect anyone to do for me. The fans elected to support the regime. People support governments.
Funny that Paul Merton so often come up with his jokes about Ian Hislop being "old" (oldfashioned really), given that Merton is older than Hislop (by 3 years)
i think if you limit air time for politicians who wont answer the question asked them and only show politicians that answer the question asked they may think twice about avoiding the question at the cost of their public profile
You know, I heard and read so much about this episode but to be quite honest, Neville got off pretty lightly, especially compared to some of the more infamous episodes over the years where the host was lampooned throughout.
I thought this was quite a good episode. They've tended to use the same hosts over and over of late, but I always liked the crap-shoot of trying different people. Maisie Adam is someone I've previously found dull and annoying, but she was quite funny here. As for people commenting on Ian having a go at Gary: (1) That's what Ian does, get over it; and (2) I'm constantly amazed at people being all for human rights as long as it doesn't affect their iPhones, shoes or sports. The Qatari's know that all they have to do is throw money at people and they'll cast their morals aside. Everyone goes on about slavery that ended 150+ years ago, yet get strangely quiet when talking about slavery that is happening right now. You just know some idiots are going to get arrested during the World Cup, either for inappropriate behavior or protesting, and the Qatari rulers will eventually pardon them and all the idiots will go "aw, look, these slave-trading, slave-holding, anti-democratic despots aren't that bad." because yay money.
The Nutella syndrome: They act appallingly and you know it, you act like a give two hoots about environment but you like it too much to give it up. Same goes with people saying I'm an animal lover but I need the latest Nike/Adidas/Reebok and I won't give up burgers because I like it so much.
Well said. I’m not a soccer fan but I think that everyone should have human rights and I can’t believe how people just don’t have morals if someone offers them enough money. Quaint aren’t I?
Why so many offensive ads and BS propaganda from RU-vid? Has the google somehow misplaced all that personal information they collected about me? No, I think the EVIL google is deliberately trying to offend me with those ads.
They got that comparison of us to aliens being like ants to us, from an episode of season one of Babylon 5, where Ja-Kar is explaining to the commanders lady what she saw
Gary has a special and admirable way of rolling with the punches that can take him a long way if he takes a strategic approach + his great character; an exciting new
Gary has a long record of following his principles and taking a stand, but that grilling might be a moment to reflect and realise he got the Qatar situation wrong. As a paid commentator he's hardly going to be banging on about LGBT rights and dead workers mid way through Brazil France
There’s nothing to hack. You just put a listening device on the line, or in the exchange and siphon everything being sent and received. Fax communications have zero encryption. They’re about as secure as the front page of a daily newspaper.
39:42 thank you Mr Hislop, for sticking it to Neville, and by extension all the greedy, money-worshipping, amoral "celebrities", again. I hope that some sort of karma will impact the lot of them, and sooner rather than later.
Got to hand it to Neville, there’s no way he didn’t know he was going to get shredded and he came on anyway. He has a point, his reach is orders of magnitude higher as a commentator than it would be if he stays in the UK and criticises Qatar. Yes, he’s doing it for the money, but maybe we should see whether he actually uses his platform as he’s promised here to do before we slap the hypocrisy label on his forehead. Hislop never spares people who deserve it, as Neville does, but it’s not out of malice. It seemed to me more a warning to Neville not to forget what’s expected of him when he gets to the World Cup as a famous person who’s spoken out on these topics before…. Not to squander his opportunity. [Edit: magnitude, not multitude!]
I’m genuinely interested to see if he makes any sort of comment whilst he’s there. Even if it’s a small one. I doubt it entirely but I’ll keep an open mind and see.
@@StevieCooper likewise. It’s a tightrope walk for Neville - if he speaks out he’ll almost certainly get the chop. But at the same time, he’ll have said his piece, been heard around the world (not just the UK) and THEN got fired. Which is better than quitting beforehand and preaching to a much smaller audience. Here’s hoping! 🤞🏾
@@swetasorab He's worth an estimated $25,000,000. So it's not as if he needs the work. And if he got fired for taking a humanitarian stand (Qatar has admitted that hundreds of migrant workers have died building the facilities ... which is just a fraction of the thousands who have died since 2010 working in Qatar) it might well backfire on his employers. BTW anything he did say he could have said while taking the morale high ground and refusing to work for the immoral regime! But, maybe the paycheck was just to good to say no to!
@@robertadams8192 I agree entirely. I just meant that his point - about being able to say his piece on a stage that is assuredly international and larger than club football commentary - was valid, so complete condemnation could perhaps wait until he had the opportunity to be critical of Qatar AT the World Cup and didn’t use it.
Dear Prime Minister (for the moment) Sunak, do please tell what might be "more pressing" matter than the imminent collapse of the climate on which we *all* (including the rich) depend? yours (not very) sincerely, some yobo
A Remembrance poppy. For November 11, Remembrance Day in Great Britain. Same here in Canada, with a slightly different design (see the Wikipedia page). It’s sold by the veterans’ associations. It’s de rigueur to wear one in the first 11 days of November by politicians and presenters on television. It refers to the poignant poem “In Flanders Fields” by Canadian military physician John McCrae.
@@joannetyrrell364 Understood. A very good question then. I went to look it up. According to Metro (on the free newspaper’s website), the Royal Legion also makes some enamel pin/brooch-style permanent ones too. Those must be the small shiny ones we saw.
@@michaelmccarthy9411 From British pronunciation. Some Brits insert an R between two words that end / start with a vowel. You can tell somebody's British when they pronounce "I saw it" as "I sawrit".
Neither Paul nor Ian applauded at the end. Hard to tell after the stage lights went down but it looked like a bit of a delay before Ian shook Gary's hand also. Gary didn't really retort after "The elephant in the room" bit. Pretty much every question after that was met with Paul saying "we don't know the answer, just tell us". I can definitely see Gary following his political ambitions within the next 3-5 years. Madeley had some overly rehearsed lines. But one or two good ones also. Thanks for uploading.
They could not say a word against Qatar or the world cup. All these celebs and football clubs said alot before going over to Qatar but nothing once there or since. Beckham was paid 200 million pounds...and he was shite as a spokesperson. He only knows 50 words. Morally compromised, there you go David...two new words .
Not sure what Neville would achieve calling out Qatari human rights abuses on a broadcast for foreign audiences, other than a shallow exercise in virtue signaling undercut by his own complicity. The Qatari government probably wouldn't much care, because domestic audiences will just see the prestige and vindication of international participation.
If these people had lived and worked in Qatar for a year they'd have a much different viewpoint, or at least a nuanced one. Foreign workers bring 100's of millions of dollars a year to their home countries in S. Asia, Southeast Asia, and North Africa. People who'd have no chance of earning almost any money at home At least 1.8 million of the pop. of Qatar (about 2.3 million) are foreign workers, mostly from developing nations, many of whom raise families. You'd be more advantaged to speak Hindi than Arabic in much of Doha, since a sort of 500 word English is the most common language. The deaths of foreign workers are a scandal and easily avoided if the Qataris wold simply put A/C into the trailers they sleep in, where they often get their heart attacks.
I like how everyone is whining about this that and the other regarding Qatar. Stop trade with them. Stop buying their carbon products. Then we can see how much integrity everyone has. Hypocrites.
It's getting very difficult to continue laughing at an ever-worsening situation. Maybe there's no time left for any humour at all. I've been saying this for y-e-a-r-s. Yes, it's not funny.
Madeley's first time on television? You're on camera, man, get your hands out of the way. (I'm joking, but he noticeably spends half the show talking from behind his hands)
Was this guest host invited on merely as a set up - knowing Ian would more than likely go for him? I agree with Ian's stance but it this the right venue? Pretty shitty treatment in my book even if good for click bait. Not exactly a level playing field - was it!
From what I recall the show has a 30 year history of doing that. Those guest can expect it when they sign up. It's part of what they have to do to promote whatever they are selling or to get their appreance fee. Kind of like Nevermind the Buzzcocks, they would often book someone just to get shreddered for "fun".
Gotta say I think Ian is barking up the wrong tree here. The Qatari regime has been using slave labour for decades, yet all western regimes invest heavily in doing business with them. Nothing will change if Gary Neville goes there, he’s there to do a job, and he’s been very critical of FIFA allowing this, which in his situation most definitely requires more guts than sitting in a panel show and ask someone to follow one’s own morals. The questions should be asked to leading politicians instead: why is doing business with these regimes something that’s encouraged? Why can these regimes use English football clubs and other business in England to wash their names? Why is it ok that the UK buys huge amounts of gas from Qatar? In the last couple of years none of these regimes or our endeavours with them have been questioned by anyone but a bunch of leftists and football fans who might be jealous of Newcastle and Manchester City. You absolutely can go there to do a job and still be critical of the regime. We have to be able to keep two separate thoughts simultaneously.
I disagree, that it's been normalised doesn't really make it any more acceptable and I don't see it as brave to have ones cake and eat it too by taking the money while shaking your head in disapproval.
Being critical of the regime is all well and good, but if Gary is going to take their money he needs to either shut up or accept being called a hypocrite whose principles are for sale. Politicians take heat for dealing with Qatar all the time, even though they have to deal with the Qatari government as part of their duties, while old soccer players do not often find themselves in the same position. Ian had a chance to call out a hypocrite and he took it.
@@michaelj.beglinjr.2804 he’s not taking their money though, is he? Isn’t he taking pay from the network he’s commentating for, who as far as I know aren’t getting paid to be there?
@@missingsig what happens to gary neville doesn't matter to me the least. But it bothers me that when it's football, it's fair game to blame everyone who cares, but nobody cares about the underlying issues. The problem is our trade and other mechanisms that normalie these countries. It's a much bigger issue that most western countries pension funds have huge ammounts of money there than the fact that football is being played there for a couple of weeks. As far as i'm aware Gary Neville has been speaking about these issues for a pretty long time now. As far as I know, nobody else on the panel has, especially Ian. But the one who's at least spoken about it is the one who's getting hanged. And sure, Garys response isn't great, but i think this focus on blaming just the world cup and the people involved with it while not caring about the other issues is ignorant at best, but at worst, (and more likely at that) dishonest.
I hate the fake skinhead cut. Do they have to harvest everything from subcultures? Well, it looks crappy because she just imitates. That's not how it is cut.
Not a very good show this week. Maisie Adam is obnoxious and Ian Hislop too precious. If Ian Hislop feels so strongly about the BBC broadcasting the World Cup, he should quit. Neville is doing a job and it's not up to him to cure the world's ills.
6,500 migrant workers died working on this freak show. Or does that not bother you? And that`s just the start of this money grab on an international sporting event by a corrupt FIFA who do buisness with the devil himself and tell the football fans to turn a blind eye and not bring politics into sport. Human rights is at the forefront of every football fan all over the world and this non event that starts next week will be pissed on by real football fans and all those who would normally tune into or even get on board such a huge global event, but this is not a normal World Cup. FIFA need to be completley dismantled and reinvented with a dose of intregty and decency who are tuned into the heart and soul of the beautiful game, proper football heads.
@@martinmcdonald4207 I take it that you won't be watching or patronising any of the advertisers. FIFA has been corrupt for decades. Why would they change now and what have you done until now? The UK has a billion dollar trade surplus with Qatar so you're part of it whether you like it or not.