Have They FINALLY Fixed The Tudor Black Bay GMT? 

I bought this exact watch on the fabric strap for my first ever swiss watch! I have a large wrist and with the fabric strap it works well for me! I personally love the large size and the water resistance because to me this is an adventure watch! Take it traveling with you and it will take whatever you throw at it! I can definitely understand why some would think it's too thick but I love mine!

It’s not just the thickness. The slab sides and lack of sloped bezel makes it look even thicker. 14mm isn’t a problem with the proper case and bezel shape

I wear my bbGMT w black dial on an uncle seiko jubilee and it wears perfectly. Has presence. Doesn’t feel too big at all. Cheers!

What a beauty. You've done a great job of capturing all the shades of the dial. I've seen a lot of videos on this watch and none have done as well as you. Shame about the thickness, but it's just not meant for all of us complaining about that! It would be sweet on a chunky arm

Tudor, look how San Martin nailed it with the SN0109-G GMT: 39mm and only 13mm height with a 48,5 L2L powered by a Seiko NH34 GMT movement!

Great review thank you, aesthetically it's lovely, funny how we are going back to alli bezels. Once you hit 14mm your hitting everything else,door handles, frames, tables anything around.

I agree that 100m and a thinner case would be better but overall I like it.

I think that not only is it good looking but a great size. I have an 8” wrist and I’d wear it anytime.

I think it looks super on your wrist!

I wear a BB 41mm as a daily. It’s a big tall watch…but unless you’ve worn it id say your not qualified to say it’s too big. It wears surprisingly smaller than it appears…and it has a nice chunky weight to it. I think it’s a great watch that people are too quick to write off (most of whom have never seen one). That said, I’m 6.2’ and a big guy.

I feel like the odd one out. The only tudor I like is the ranger. It wears perfectly. It's not thick. It's not homaged to hell. It's not worn by every middle manager on the planet (ahem BB ahem) and it's not thicker than Donald Trump. And it doesn't have those cos play steam punk rivets. I think I batted this one back over the net successfully😂 Great video though, and for someone who uses GMT functionality every week, yeah, I won't bother hankering after this frankenstein of a watch.

Personal opinion: I thought it was too thic of a boy till I wore it and now i think the thickness is cool. Comfy on my 6.5” wrist. Has a vintage look with the colors and smaller bezel. Catches people’s eyes but not make em glued on it so it’s almost a bit incognito. Great piece!

you should review the black bay pro, cuz that is a GMT in the 39mm "BB58" case. it is still a 14.6mm thick but doesn't feel or wear like it nearly as thick as the specs indicate

i have 8" wrists so can pull off the thickness of a Tudor - already have and love a Blue Pelagos - - when i tried this Opaline Dial GMT on last month is suited me, I love the dial and the vintage look and i instantly paid a deposit and now cant wait to receive mine! I honestly think Tudor have or are becoming what Rolex used to be.....

It kind of looks like they pieced together a GMT with components they had lying around. Just seems to be lacking a cohesive design. Needs the new style crown and clasp, smaller in every dimension and sort out the scaling of the dial furniture, bulkier handset and hour markers. I agree about the green lume and dial clash a bit too.

These 41mm BBs should be no greater than 13 mm thickness at most. Waiting for the day of a 39mm BB58 GMT Pepsi (non-opaline).

My friend took a photo of his BB GMT with some Wensleydale cheese that he bought specially. It’s become a meme between the two of us since I now have the same watch. 😂 In seriousness I was quite worried about the size before I purchased. I thoroughly recommend trying a 54, 58, METAS, and GMT/41-heritage for size before deciding. On my 7.5 inch (19cm) wrist 100+kg body🎅 even the 58 was a little dainty. I really respect how you qualify your advice/opinions by reminding us that these choices are personal. Love your videos, keep em coming! 🎉

I purchased this Watch and it is perfect for my 7 and a 1/4 inch wrist. The watch depends on your size. I tried the hyped bb54 and 58 and they look like a child’s watch on me.

The Paul Newman scenario got me laughing 🤣 TOO BIG !

Cmoon everyone over 17 cm wrist will love this... Spot on if you ask me....

On paper it reads big, but it wears a lot smaller on my 18,5cm (7,25 inch) wrist. The bezel and the beveled edges on the bottom makes it look much smaller and thinner. Also the 15mm thickness is measured with the domed glass (1-1,5mm). For comparison a Rolex Oyster Perpetual 41mm feels way too big for my wrist.

I’m actually a little surprised at how hard you went in on the homage angle, but I agree, all this thing does is motivate me to buy a San Martin version.

Good review I agree, the rivets are beautiful. I own the black face gmt tudor, it's very pretty. It's chunky and thick, but it's fun. I wouldn't wear it to bed..

This watch is gorgeous. I am dying to see one in person

I can't see a BB58 GMT coming into production since the release of the Black Bay Pro. The new third-generation Black Bay that was released at Watches and Wonders will get the GMT movement and T-fit clasp instead.

Looks perfectly sized for me. Great review Russ!

I thought the same thing, I tried it at the AD and man I couldn't stop thinking how big it was. I love this white dial, but until they slim the case down I won't get one.

- Yes, thick watches in any category are a turn off for me. This is one reason why I generally don’t like display back windows, they add thickness.

Not mentioning the thickness, but having an aluminium bezel at this price is like putting horse carriage wheels on a Ferrari.

I’ve never been able to get a good fit on the bracelet in summer months - it needs another micro adjust hole as a minimum. On a rubber strap, however, the GMT becomes a much better wearing proposition

Agree. BB Pro is my daily. Remember all the complaints about its thickness… until people started wearing it and realized it was fine.

Definitely agree with your points about the applied indices and the lume color!

A good aluminium bezel is really underrated. Just imagine how that's going to age, makes my mouth water!

Great review as always 👏🏻. I bought the original BB 41 after trying on the 41 & 58 & the 58 looked too small on my 7.5" wrist. Never felt my 41 was too thick or heavy on me and really fancy a BB GMT but want to try both black & Opaline at the same time to see which i prefer. Keep up the great work 👍🏻

It's not a watch for a small man. On my 8-inch wrist, it sits just fine. I can't say the thickness bothers me or makes me think I'm wearing a £100 watch or an homage watch. The way I look at it, I've got a diver with GMT function.

I own the BB58 (and love it) and I tried on this watch at my AD. And I agree 100% with your review. Gorgeous dial, but case is too big and chunky for my 6.75" wrist. Top heavy and uncomfortable to wear. No excuse for not updating the t-fit clasp. Waiting on this in a slimmed down 39mm case with a t-fit clasp. Cheers!

Thanks for the review. I was considering this and now I’m rethinking it.

That Pepsi Rolex fit real nice on your wrist.

I have the original BBGMT and honestly i don't notice the size on my smaller 6.5" wrist. The case shape helps it blend into the wrist more than you would think, and I don't actually notice the thickness that much. The design is very visually striking with all the snowflake hands and stuff but also pretty classic at the same time. My favourite watch in the collection

When I first saw this face-on I loved it, but seeing the side of it has really put me off. Plus the side of the case looks too plain. It needs sculpting to almost disguise the wedge of metal. Great video again MWC 👏

Do we actually know that Tudor will come out with a 39mm Black Bay GMT? Or is that just what we think should happen?

I own a BB with the same thickness and on my 7 1/2 inch wrist looks fine

A couple of corrections if I have interpreted your review correctly: 1) Tudor is luxury brand. 2) Watches that can go under 100 metres are considered to be divers. Please, correct me if I'm wrong, I trying to learn.

Not gonna lie, I'm not sure what to think on this one... it definitely looks pretty as hell to me - as you mentioned, great straight on, but something seems a little off and I personally can't quite put it to words.

It didn't look big in the pictures but when I tried it on it's absolutely goping!

I think we would all love to see a slimmer BB GMT including me. I think this is a thicker or more perceived watch for a couple of reasons. It probably used a modified in house BB 41 movement (that is quite a beefy movement to start with) and added the GMT so there are possibly two extra levels of mechanics, one to drive the GMT central pinion and another to make room for the GMT hand, there maybe more to cater for the hour jump and date forward and reverse complication. Tudor would need to redesign the movement to make it thinner. My single cell brain (it used to be two cells but one died after a pint some years ago) would guess that Tudor skunkworks are already developing thinner more accurate and reliable movement behind the scenes so let's hope that this work is quite advanced as lots of us have been asking for slimmer in house movement models for a while. Oh and the other reason is the BB case design using slab sides. Anyway for now I'm happy with my BB GMT black dial on my 7" wrist. Oddly it doesn't look that thick when not viewed down the wrist but from the hand.

I have an 8 inch wrist, this will fit well.

This is proof everyone's different, I have this GMT, with regards to the size it's perfect for me. But the BB58 on the other hand... Just take this review and replace the word big with small and that's it. Good review though even if I don't agree 👍

Awesome brutally honest review as always buddy! And when can we expect that new MIP square review matey? And just can't wait to hear what your good lady thinks of it! 😱

I am sometimes baffled how some of these luxury brands build their watches. In your example, the thickness, and I'm also noticing how the end links don't quite fit the case.

Even My BlackBay preference is a few mm thinner. My preference is the Black Bay M79230B-0008 41mm with the white hand set, and matt blue anodised aluminium Bezel insert.

I think it’s stunning. I like watches and don’t mind a bigger style watch. That’s a home run for me. But I have a 7-3/8 wrist.

Tangential question, ever try the Reef Steel link extension for the BB58?

just got mine today im very pleased with it, had the black bay pro but just didnt feel right with the yellow hand. now i got this to match my bb chrono panda.

Great video MWC! I love the enthusiasm every video and often find myself mimicking things like Dial Time! Much to my partner displeasure. Anyone get a studio underdog today?

They have the Tudor black bay pro, I don’t think we are going to see a new GMT for couple of years

Do you think they will ever release a Tudor aftermarket tfit clasp? Have Tudor or rolex ever done that for existing watches?

For years I said too tall. Went into AD to try new pelly 39, saw the gmt and tried it on. It is tall but actually wears thinner than the spec sheet says. Definately try it on as now I can take it off!!!

Bezel face is now my favorite

Thanks for the great review Russ. I was considering a BB GMT but think I will wait in hope for a 58 GMT. Or maybe a Pelagos 39?! Decisions, decisions! 😬

You're right on the blue lume would have been a better choice, but it is not a deal breaker for me. What is frustrating is the lack of T-fit clasp on a new release. Just because the original BB GMT does not have one yet does not mean Tudor needs to release these with the old bracelet. Omega slip streamed a quick adjust clasp on the Moonwatch, so we know it can be done. Come on, Tudor! I do have a bigger wrist that can accommodate this one, but must admit even the thick Black Bay Pro in 39mm is a nice wear on the wrist with that smaller diameter. Have you tried the Black Bay Pro on?

Beautiful time piece that suits my 8 inch wrist as well as my SD43.

I've just picked this one up, and yes, it is a hefty chunk for sure, but on my 7 inch wrist it looks fine! I wouldn't recommend for anyone with under that wrist size though.

I think its a nice piece. I'm glad its 41 and not 39....

Tudor black bay pro is the GMT for me - not a fan of the opaline / white dial and it looks chunky on your wrists!

I own and love this GMT Opaline! Yes, I am not afraid to say it... lol And guess what... I have a small wrist lol lol This GMT sits pretty well on the wrist and is quite comfortable to wear despite its size. The dial and bezel are sumptuous... just don't look on the side... lol Great review as usual, really like your honest comments. Keep it up!

I don't mind the thickness but I can understand wht a lot of people are put off by it. Our friend Average Joe has the black dial version I believe. I'm curious how he feels about it. He seems pretty happy with it. The rivets help prevent scuffs, I think they're a great idea.

I've got a slightly bigger wrist than you and the BBPro is a better fit but still is a bit top heavy/slab sided but it's still my go to watch when I'm going out 👍

Tudor used to make the Oyster Thin; they need need to shave 3mm off the thickness. Great vid as always, man!

I've got the 2018 black version, absolutely loved it, its been back to London RSC twice for date wheel fix, they have assured me its fixed this time. I also have a 2018 Seamaster 300 and got to admit I wear the Seamaster a lot more, find the braclet nicer and the watch is just lighter. Kind of falling out of love with my GMT these days.

I'm a fan of smaller watches but also a massive fan of tudor. I have eight of them. However, a watch only looks too big if you have a little wrist. I have an eight inch wrist and my black dial Tudor BB GMT looks fine. That said I prefer wearing my Pro and 58 which are slightly smaller. Oh yes... also, switch the steel bracelet off the GMT and wear a black and red waterproof strap.

i mean, at least there is still a tudor gmt for the smaller wrist in the black bay pro. yeah you dont have the rotating bezel but the second hand looks coooler in my opinioooohhhh that thickness is, yeah... hmmm

I have the black dial GMT. Great watch. Recommend taking the bracelet into jewelry watch store sizing

Have The black Dial GMT, bought it Last year, I was concerned about its chunky Profile, I have 7.25 wrist and it wasn’t a problem for me. I think it wears Just Fine. Thanks for the fine Video, I enjoyed It.

I don't mind the thickness myself.

As far as GMTs go, I’ve owned a Rolex GMT master II, and currently own a Rolex explorer 2 and the Steinhart 1655 ripoff. I also owned the tutor GMT. I wanted to love that watch more than any watch ever. But there’s a reason why literally everybody says it’s too big. Because it’s too big. The bracelet never fit right, irritated my wrist and the watch itself felt like a brick on my wrist. Additionally, I personally felt the hands needed to be thicker and the indices needed to be a little bit larger to accommodate the amount of space on the dial. It would make it much more legible. But wearing It was literally horrific. I sold it after owning it less than a month. Say what you want but the watch is just too big for the vast majority out there. It’s Cliche, but a black bay 58 size GMT would pretty much be perfect. If it ever comes…

I owned one of the original BBGMT's and really loved it once I put it on an Artem sailcloth strap. The issue I had was that the movement was trash on not 1 but 2 of them (my AD swapped out the first one for me due to the date issue and then the 2nd one had the same date issue... Tudor service center lost my second one and so I opted for an Omega). I miss this watch and can't help but think that WHEN Tudor gives this the BB58 treatment it will be a huge hit for them.

Very nice watch and I think it's to the limits regarding the size. It is big but its not SO big. My opinion.

Well, I own the black dial GMT and the BB58 and..... would I like it 2-3mm thinner? Who wouldn't... 🤷 But would I ditch it? Does it feel like a cheap hom? Absolutely not. I'll never have GMT Master money and it's 90% of that watch for waaay less money (and you can actually buy one). But then I do have a 7.25imch wrist, and doubt it'd work on any wrist smaller..... I went into my AD to 'eliminate it', put it on, and immediately forked over my cash. And 2yrs on don't regret it. And if I rocked up to P Newman's dinner party, I'd have a BB58 on leather on wrist 😁 BTW the GMT DOES wear smaller on the leather (which I bought on a total whim but really works).....

I have the black bay gmt (black) I got a year ago so heres my experience. My wrist 6.25-6.5 (depending on weather) and.... I love wearing this watch! Is it big? yes it is but my wrist is a bit broad so the lugs don't over hang. IMO the wrist circumference is not a good metric to go by, you need to honestly wear it. Recently (a few days ago) I went to checkout the blackbay 54 and oh my god that thing is extremely dainty! Just another confirmation that I selected the right tudor. If anyone is on the fence I highly suggest you go in person and wear it and make a decision. Don't base it of your wrist circumference size and call it a day.

It looks a little clunky, I agree a thinner case would make all the difference, as would the removal of the crown tube which they have done on the Metas red BB.

It would be nice if it were a few millimeters thinner, but I wouldn't change the diameter. I don't really understand the whole small watch craze going on right now. Just give me something that fits my wrist. Anywhere between 40-43mm works great. Anything smaller than that, and it looks like a woman's watch.

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So funny that when we see it on your wrist when you’re talking and from a distance it doesn’t look big at all. It looks good. I don’t get it

Another thing I don't like on this GMT design is that the GMT hand covers the date window. This is one of the reasons I went with the Longines Zulu Time. However that choice was mainly based on the overall design and comfort.

Just the right size for me 😎

must agree about the hands - I am not a fan of the snowflake at all anymore and think they would do very well to have something else for non-divers (or even the divers, haha!) .... and the Ranger ... I love it mostly because so many hate it 😂 but also for its simplicity and quality and comfort and pick up and go and versatility and and and :P

7.3inch.... wrist. fits fine for me

They'll sell this model until they run out of BB Heritage cases and then they'll switch to a smaller case. For me the 24h hand is too long, i miss an opaline ring around the stem tunnel, the minute markers should be dark blue instead of black and BGW9 would be my preferred lume here. You're right about the green lume: meh.

Great show as always MWC! This watch is stunning and you can’t beat an aluminium bezel insert but the proportions just seem a bit off. As you said, face on it looks great but from any other angle that thickness is too much for me. Those slab sides don’t help either. I’m sure these will sell very well and be enjoyed by loads of people (and rightly so) but it’s a bit disappointing that an in house movement from a brand as prestigious as Tudor can only fit in an case this size. I’ve been looking at some automatic chronographs which have a Sellita SW500 and they are all broad in diameter and chunky. I’d prefer more manageable dimensions but the Sellita is an off the shelf and relatively affordable movement so I can understand that concessions have been made. With this Tudor it feels like it should be possible to get those dimensions down a bit. Surely Rolex/Tudor aren’t worried about cannibalising the GMT-Master II market? Putting availability aside the price difference is big enough that nobody who can afford it would buy a Black Bay GMT over a GMT-Master II, right? As you said, I’m sure a a Black Bay 58 sized GMT is coming at some point, these are just an appetiser!

I like the design and the diameter, it is just a bit too thick indeed. Great show again

My personal opinion no offense to the die hard Tudor fans. The watch should have been reissued with a 39mm to 40mm case and a lumed insert bezel to go along with the lumed gmt hand with a thinner case as well. The watch is sweet,but even more sweeter slightly smaller and thinner. For real! Come on Tudor listen to the people for a change and stop being stubborn.

Got the OG and love it . I can see what you're saying though its not for everyone

A smaller case if need of the hour. Also, bring a Pepsi BB 58

Hey Russel, I don't know if I missed it but if not I would really appreciate a mention of your wrist size for comparison.

Tudor, the only brand you don't want the bracelet version of. (pelagos is about the only decent strap they do.. I mean fake rivets on a 3-44k watch..)

Commenting only a few seconds into the video with a forethought. I have the OG black dial version of the BB GMT. I purchased it after a few months wait with my local AD. Yes it’s big. I have a 7.25in wrist and it’s my biggest watch. Probably the thickest too. All things considered, I still get excited to put this thing on. This and my seiko flighty have become my two travel watches (seiko for when I’m out at night or in a so-so area, and Tudor for everything else). I also think my purchase of this watch helped with my candidacy for a submariner which I received the call for a few months later. At the end of the day, my Tudor puts the same smile on my face as the subbie. And it will always be my first “nice watch”. Even though she’s thicc, no complaints here😄

Best Tudor GMT: BB Pro „Exprorer“ :) Love it despite its thickness. Please make a video (in case you have not done yet..) 🙏

just got one used on the nato style strap and it seems slimer than a bracelet because you can wear it a little tighter, so holding it closer to the wrist

On my 7.5 inch wrist, the size is perfectly proportional 😂