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Hawk 250 Loncin RE250 6 Speed Swap Test Ride - Needs Regeared 

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@duckman2667
@duckman2667 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for not making us wait 6 weeks for your/our test ride. Your a credit to RU-vidrs everywhere!
@wolfdad1512
@wolfdad1512 4 года назад
I'm glad you mentioned the smoothness. It sounds much smoother.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
It is way smoother. No vibration at any rpm
@derrickwatts2495
@derrickwatts2495 5 лет назад
It sounds really good on the top end. Not so buzzy in the middle rang.
@JOEYHIPHOP2008
@JOEYHIPHOP2008 3 года назад
That was as much fun for me to watch as it was for you to test . 🏍️🎥🎬 ⚓
@daveheimes241
@daveheimes241 5 лет назад
Been waiting for that ! Thank you. I would break in the motor first before you change sprockets. I would also remove the catalytic converter from your exhaust and try to adjust the jetting of the carburetor. It is a little harder in the winter to mess with jetting .
@jfdashley9028
@jfdashley9028 4 года назад
That sounds really good, I have and ride a 1999 Yamaha XT225 (6 speed trans and counter balanced) I kind of thought this new engine would yield good results for you. Good job.
@bobbyb9718
@bobbyb9718 3 года назад
I have a Lifan Xpect which I am very happy with, but the one thing I would love to have is that 6th gear. If my engine ever blows, maybe I’ll get a wild hair and swap in the water cooled 6-speed Lifan engine that they put in the KPR’s.
@donaldheine6243
@donaldheine6243 4 года назад
Just for comparison I have a klr 250. Has dual overhead cams and 11 to 1 compression ratio. Makes about 28 horsepower. It doesn't have much low end torque. Comes to life at about 6500rpm. Top speed is about 85. I've had it to 92 with a tail wind. You get the sprockets right you might get it to 75. Even with 28 horsepower you get a bit of a headwind and a hill and 75 is about all it's got. You get semis playing with you and you have nothing left get out of their way. There is only so much you can do with a 250.
@jcx5659
@jcx5659 5 лет назад
I would think the extra gear should make the effort worthwhile. Good job. Is the 6th gear an overdrive?
@sergiurusu5316
@sergiurusu5316 Год назад
Very nice bike!! Sounds like a song.
@nakoawarrior3186
@nakoawarrior3186 4 года назад
You did a great job. And so far no issues,..........you should have checked before you left to see if it was charging.
@DavidSmith-wy5rb
@DavidSmith-wy5rb 3 месяца назад
Congrats on your engine swap, what a nightmare 🥴 but you got it done 👍 ! An overhead cam engine is a much smoother and higher performing engine.
@AboxofMonsters
@AboxofMonsters 4 года назад
Wow that looked like the longest project ever lol 😂 most would have pushed it under a tarp Sounds like it could not run better though ! My Klr 650 was not any stronger same exact sound and excel Except prob more top end but I never did more then 65 That’s as fast as I’m willing to brake hard. I put an iridium plug in mine though and tossed the factory and it came alive.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
Thanks for the comment.
@robliguori
@robliguori Год назад
What was the eventual sprocket change that fixed the 6th gear power issue?
@bearatak322
@bearatak322 5 лет назад
Good job Bob!
@drchan5893
@drchan5893 4 года назад
runs ok but try lift the pin in the carby 1 notch that engine should have the same pull (Torque) in every gear, I have the same engine in my Apollo,( you need to tune the carby) i had the same issues and you need to remember that new engine runs best at 5-6000rpm
@terremoto..6809
@terremoto..6809 4 года назад
The power on the hawk most owners will say is low to mid range good for trails and around 50s mph on back roads
@schrodingerscat8621
@schrodingerscat8621 3 года назад
I can appreciate upgrading to a six speed transmission, however, I could not justify the price of the engine upgrade. You are still running that restrictive stock exhaust system, it’s the equivalent of trying to breathe with a pillow over your face. I upgraded my exhaust, built a custom intake with a cone filter that locates The filter under the seat and incorporates the crank case breather hose. And re-jetted the carburetor, and it is almost as fast as my buddies Honda XR 250L. For the money you spent on that bike and engine upgrade package, you could have had a DRZ 400 which is 100 times better than any hawk could ever be.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
I respect your opinion but disagree with you. For instance, the exhaust, which I modified, flows just as good as any aftermarket one. I didn't build this to make a race bike. I made a super reliable, fun 50/50 dual sport that can keep me out of trouble on 55mph roads. I stated in my other videos that it wasn't worth the expense for most people, but for me it was worth it for the project alone and for the RU-vid channel.
@schrodingerscat8621
@schrodingerscat8621 3 года назад
@@JackofAllMasterofNone And I do understand, that making the swap it was partially about content for your channel, and we appreciate you being the guinea pig on that experiment. At the end of the day, if you’re happy with it, and you had a good time doing it, that’s what it’s all about! Thanks for a respectful debate👍 PS: what’s your top speed now with the extra gear? I use my bike for mostly trail riding, I used my phone for GPS the other day, I had the bike wide-open for almost 5 minutes straight on a flat Road, struggled to hit 60 miles an hour, my friends xr250 would walk by me like I was standing still, a bit embarrassing and frustrating, but I really enjoy the way the Bike handles on the trails so for the price I really can’t complain
@donaldolin7219
@donaldolin7219 6 месяцев назад
Also…..I have set up several XR200R motors, including my race bike and even with a cam, head porting and high comp. these bikes don’t make a whole lot more power than a stock motor. Don’t waste your money like I did. Enjoy!
@scottf1085
@scottf1085 4 года назад
Keep it up with the great videos. I'm in Columbus and own the 2020 Tao TBR7. Would luv to ride with ya one day.
@nathan00campbell
@nathan00campbell 3 года назад
ive been thinking a Ninja 250 engine would be GOLD on one of these. IF you ever ride one, you will see why. Its nothing like any other 250 ive ever ridden.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
Yes, they are a very cool engine. Not sure it would fit though. You should try it. 😀
@gil8132
@gil8132 2 года назад
thats more money
@totalkaos1580
@totalkaos1580 3 года назад
You have mad skills.
@marloumadrio8305
@marloumadrio8305 2 года назад
The main difference with CB and CG would be overhead cams vs push rod type Overhead cams have the luxury to rev higher CB engines are usually DC operated vs AC operated for CG For off road use, one would make sense to have AC operated if you're in a remote place with a dead battery Overall, good job on your engine swap You are definitely on the right path You may want to upgrade your cams to high lift and wide LSA to get the full potential of your Loncin RE 250 aside from using a bore out 67 mm kit with racing clutch linings, and racing valves, springs and racing Clutch springs Once your break in period is done, that Loncin RE 250 revs to the tune of 14,000 rpms with a 34mm keihin jetted carbs Thank you for sharing your video
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 2 года назад
Thanks for the great comment
@donaldolin7219
@donaldolin7219 6 месяцев назад
Nice. I would be pleased were this my result.
@HuaKhongXoe2023
@HuaKhongXoe2023 3 года назад
Wow! Nice progress you got there sir! Im about to take a big bore kit to my xr125l but in the long term i think swaping engine could be better than big bore kit. Cause in bad case the new engine broke down i still got the old engine too. Just wondering should i use the CG 200-250 engine from zongshen and loncin (15-17hp) to get a plug n play swap or the cb250-f (23-25hp) engine? May get a lot of work to fit the cb250-f into 125 frame, i calcute the stock one and the new one there is a small size between them. People may said i should sold my bike to get the new one but hey. I love to play with my bike not to buy to ride then. Thank if you can solved my question between taking a plug n play or another small frame work to take a huge more hprs. Before getting your answer im modify the swing arm and the front forks!
@mirkomercado7129
@mirkomercado7129 Год назад
Great vídeo. Greetings from Bolivia
@DamianT361
@DamianT361 5 лет назад
I like your videos man, good work. Hey please read this. I was wondering about any tips to getting my 06 ezgo txt 36v to have more power ?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 лет назад
Assuming the batteries and controller and motor are good the only way to get more power is with a better controller and / or motor. It would also be very beneficial to step up to a 48volt system but you would have to upgrade your controller and motor to do that anyway.
@fortheculture2153
@fortheculture2153 Год назад
What gearing did you end up with ? I bought a used Hawk 250 and it had this motor and no rear sprocket (long story) I did the JT 17tfront and 45t rear and the chain or front sprocket didn’t fit (the front sprocket had no clearance and both sprockets didn’t fit the chain it just slipped) I just need to know which sprocket and chain I need it’s been getting fixed up in my garage and just the sprocket and chain away from riding
@karmatias11
@karmatias11 4 года назад
I have been looking for that seat cover for weeks! Can you please tell me where you got it? Nevermind! I see the links! You are awesome!
@lawrencefox563
@lawrencefox563 4 года назад
is that chinese hawk250 re upgrade seems sweet ,power seemed good too
@donaldolin7219
@donaldolin7219 6 месяцев назад
By the way…….a stock XT500 only pulls about 80mph where I live in Colorado (6500 ft.)
@mojolazaro7172
@mojolazaro7172 4 года назад
Cg125/hondatmx155 shaft sprocket (428) fits on RE200/RE250
@terrycarrier7878
@terrycarrier7878 5 лет назад
Based on the way you had to do the brackets, would you be able to pull the motor back out without cutting and grinding?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 лет назад
Yes.
@raulaltavista6278
@raulaltavista6278 3 года назад
Hi. You mentioned a Zanella bike manual. Do you have a link for it? I just bought a bike with this engine and the factory manual is terrible.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
I can not find the link but this engine is actually an almost carbon copy clone of a Honda CRF230F engine. If you need to understand something about the engine / transmission look for info on the CRF230F
@raulaltavista6278
@raulaltavista6278 3 года назад
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Thank you. I'll try with the honda engine. The funny thing is that Zanella is from my home country and I still can't find the manual. Greetings from Argentina!
@youfixit24
@youfixit24 3 года назад
I feel like no matter if it was 5 or 6 speed it will still won’t go over 55 or n hills. It sounds like it stalls when going 6th gear. It would be good to cruise at lower rpm on Highways though
@jsg2910
@jsg2910 3 года назад
Hi would be interested in selling the original motor?, I have a Hawk with 1100 miles on it and 1st gear is slip jumping inside under acceleration. Ty hohn
@ashleystephenson1333
@ashleystephenson1333 3 года назад
I have a 1995 yamaha WR 250.. needs top and bottom end.. I'm thinking about getting one of these engines/ fitting it. Anyone know if that would work?
@keithheiskell2389
@keithheiskell2389 3 года назад
You need to pull it hard two seat those rings get the temperature up cool down temperature up cool down hard pull
@BUILDNIGHT
@BUILDNIGHT 5 лет назад
Where did you buy the RE250? I’ve been looking for one.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 лет назад
Ebay. 1 seller has it listed
@zachutson7205
@zachutson7205 4 года назад
You may get more top end with a higher ratio
@ervmister
@ervmister 5 лет назад
is there anyway to install the 6 speed from that engine into original hawk engine?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 лет назад
I cant say for sure but they are very different cases.
@yousofal-kassar8196
@yousofal-kassar8196 2 года назад
who is better 5 or 6 speed ?
@RyanRyan
@RyanRyan 3 года назад
This engine now comes in some of the magician 250 bikes aka clone xg250 bikes from china
@Tain950
@Tain950 4 года назад
What bike does this engine originally go to
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
Honda CRF230F
@Idonwannabediswayyyy
@Idonwannabediswayyyy 4 года назад
Can someone explain to me why a bad ass carb won’t fix the major lack of power these motors have?
@Idonwannabediswayyyy
@Idonwannabediswayyyy 4 года назад
Or are they just poorly designed.
@DFX2KX
@DFX2KX 4 года назад
@@Idonwannabediswayyyy it's a motor design issue. A nicer carb would help a little perhaps, but Carbs are Carbs at the end of the day, you can't squeeze water from a stone as they say. There are adjustments you can do inside said carb (needle and jet adjustments) that can help a lot. Any more then that would require that there be a performance scene for these with things like (in this engine's case) new camshafts and/or heads.
@vladimpaler9274
@vladimpaler9274 2 года назад
Affordable fun ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vnjRNz81MFs.html
@ryzen397
@ryzen397 3 года назад
how much was that new engine?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
700ish total
@tylerjackson4168
@tylerjackson4168 4 года назад
Does the gear indicator work?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
Yes
@tylerjackson4168
@tylerjackson4168 4 года назад
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Thanks! Awesome, my finger is getting really close to the buy it now button.
@joeyfaulks
@joeyfaulks Год назад
How fast is it now
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone Год назад
Still slow. Top speed 72mph with wind behind you 🤣
@jmollick1
@jmollick1 5 лет назад
Is the Loncin a 229cc like the original hawk cg clone?
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 5 лет назад
It is a 223 or so I believe.
@duckman2667
@duckman2667 5 лет назад
It says right in the description that it is a 223cc OHC engine
@jmollick1
@jmollick1 5 лет назад
Oh I didn’t even read it. Was too excited for the video since I’ve been following his posts of the conversion on a Hawk FB group
@duckman2667
@duckman2667 5 лет назад
Sorry, I just realized I came across like a d$@k that wasn’t my intention. Good luck.
@duckman2667
@duckman2667 5 лет назад
Also you should check out Chinariders forum. It is full of great information.
@trucker2b
@trucker2b 4 года назад
17 front 42 rear ...
@Stevikapaska0215
@Stevikapaska0215 3 года назад
time to upgrade that go pro
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
It was a brand new GoPro 7 at the time. They aren't that great.
@pedrothomas4944
@pedrothomas4944 Год назад
gear it higer front sprocket
@Smokinstrainstation88
@Smokinstrainstation88 4 года назад
I know that chainsaw carving place anywhere you dont live far from me in crooksville
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
Yes sir. Small world
@henry.g.van.wettering.jr.5317
@henry.g.van.wettering.jr.5317 4 года назад
for all the shit you went through i would never did all that i would have whent out and spent the other money and bought a Honda or Yamah and had a much better bike
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 4 года назад
But what fun would that have been? Lol
@donaldheine6243
@donaldheine6243 3 года назад
You wasted time and money. A couple more horsepower isn't enough to make a big difference. Want a faster bike. Buy a faster bike. Every hawk owner does the same thing. Bought it because it was cheap. Then try to make it faster.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
Thanks for your great insight. 🙄 Good thing it was my time and money to waste.
@donaldheine6243
@donaldheine6243 3 года назад
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I almost bought one. For some people they are a good value. If you absolutely have to have electric start and only have $1500 or so to play with. If you don't mind kick start klr 250 can be had for about the same price and they are a lot faster. It was entertaining what you did. But was it worth it. You will never recoup that money.
@JackofAllMasterofNone
@JackofAllMasterofNone 3 года назад
@@donaldheine6243 if you watch the whole video I told everyone it's not worth the money unless you have a blown engine or something but it was a fun project and I have a great bike now that I enjoy very much.
@gil8132
@gil8132 2 года назад
my china 250cc go up to 70 mpr when i need to take a big jinja shit fast them any 250cc to 1000cc that real jinjashit men😉🧐🤓😎🥳
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