I have one with lumbar support and seat tilt features. These two important features do allow to configure the chair much better, as you can tilt the seat so the back side of it is lower and push up the lumbar support to be in exactly the right place. Comparing this chair with competitors like Herman Miller, I find this chair to be much more comfortable, flexible and adjustable for different people needs. Head rest would be great, though, but even Aeron doesn't have one officially
Thanks for the feedback! Reg. seat pan angle, there are a few things to beware though, as I explain here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_M7t30EaLbU.html
I am 5’7 and this chair is perfect for me. One of the most comfortable chairs I’ve tried. I did try steelcase and Herman miller chairs. Steelcase chairs are hard and uncomfortable 😣 the only one I like is the karman
@@shrek22 the aesthetics, the back rest is a bit too firm for my taste and it can get a bit hot after long periods of time sitting on it. I prefer mesh because it’s fresher and softer. Besides that, it is an amazing chair.
Because of you, I am now Considering the Kinnarps. I initially was eyeing the Haworth Zody but your video has shown me the benefits of the Kinnarps Plus 8. Thanks!
I agree with this. I bought a Haworth Fern in Canada and for some reason they don't sell the lumbar support on their Canadian models because apparently we don't have spines that need to be supported. The mesh doesn't provide enough support alone, and the natural curve hits you too low in your butt. After sitting in the chair for a week it gave me terrible back pain.
Love your videos. You are the first person who actually explained how to adjust a chair properly. I know you did a mirra 2 review. But I am very interested in an aeron remastered review from you.
Hey, I really appreciate the perspective you bring in your reviews. I'm currently in the process of researching for a new chair. I'm considering the Haworth Soji and was wondering if you had any opinions on it. A review of the Soji from you would be great help.
I’d love to know which chair you went with. I am also stuck between the Fern and the Soji, and I’m really finding it hard to choose. I’m on the shorter side at 5’3 so it’s been kind of difficult to find good info that applies to me specifically. I’d love to know which chair you eventually pulled the trigger on.
I have this chair and the steelcase leap but both chairs seem to make my right foot start to numb after awhile. My heels are planted on the ground. Im short at 5'2. Do you think I might need a footrest or look for different requirements in a chair? Perhaps my setup is wrong.
You didn't mention the Digital Knit version of the chair. BTOD gave that version an S-tire rating along with the Gaming version of the Herman Miller Embody chair.
This was super helpful, thank you! I didn't know about the pelvic bone placement etc. I'm going to look in your videos to find out if you have one on how to choose the right chair based on our measurements
You’re welcome! The best you can do is browse this playlist to focus on the areas that interests you most: ru-vid.com/group/PLrkU7wsPQIPri82EhSq3A3ruiKLWSnkQ2
worth noting is the amazing return policy for anyone who think they are a good fit but not willing to take the risk. I wish steelcase had this return policy -_-
What is best chair in this fern price range? Do you think the fern lumbar support would've changed your view - not sure why you didn't get one with the lumbar support and forward tilt
Thanks for the review. Why you write that the optionnal lumbar support is not great ? Have it (without optionnal lumbar support) and indeed feel the pelvis support a little weak..
You're welcome! The main reason for it being not so great is that's not enough to compensate for the too low implementation of the backrest. Moreover, I have experience of it causing additional discomfort in some users. Finally, I have reports that the plastic tends to stiffen with the time; after a while you cannot adjust it anymore: if you move it, it just falls downwards. It's really a pity, because the same chair with a height adjustable backrest would be absolutely great for tall people!
Thanks for the informative videoS I ended up getting a Leap V2 and the pelvic area that you point to in this video as well as my upper glutes are constantly screaming in the Leap. From your expertise would you say this is an adjustment period or a bad fitting chair where I should explore something like this Fern?
I have a 'stocky build', as you described with the shorter torso, longer legs, etc, and am also on the heavy side, however under the recommended max weight of the chair. Do you feel this chair would be appropriate for me? Thanks
Honestly, the lumbar support is really low. But it's worth having a try, sitting on it and feeling if the lumbar support is at belt level. If so, you can go for it!
Another Kinnarps +8 user here 😊 Used Kinnarps chairs many years at work, and recently commited to purchase one for my home office aswell. Thank you 🙏🏻 A request for your great channel: I see many people in my IT-proffession genre use gaming chairs (mostly for the price and look probably). Would be very interesting if you could do a non sponsored review (hard to find) on one of those chairs, to enlighten people on an ergonomic standpoint. My back still has a hard time forgetting me using one of those chairs! 😂 Thankfully that belongs to the past for me, but it’s still a trend in the industry and many teenagers begin early in life destroying their posture with this terrible gaming chairs. It’s a multi million dollar industry for sure. Take care!
Thank you mate! You could not be more spot on reg. gaming chairs: they are on my to-do-list for a while... it's just hard to find a reseller that opens his doors to a guy who will be super critical towards his product. But I'm not abandoning and I'll find a way!!
Was this chair purchased on Haworth International site? What's the color of it? Silver Leaf or Byzantina? Their photos on website are horrible renders... Can't really tell which one is looking better :/ Thanks!
Hello @Olivier Girard - the Posture Guy! Can you please recommend a proper computer desk chair for a petite person of 158cm tall 70cm inseam (even proportions) and living in rural USA? We do not have Kinnarps dealer here,, and the chairs I try at the store are made for big people. Looking to order online. Thank you!
Hey! It's a really difficult question: the market changes depending on the country, and many brands I know aren't sold in the US, or the assortment is different. There's one I like for short people (and kids), which I reviewed here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3u-X9HF17O8.html. If you find it, go for it. Otherwise, I went to Amazon and searched for those with the shortest seat depth. I found this one www.amazon.com/VigorPow-Armless-Ergonomic-Computer-Adjustable/dp/B08R6VW3VW/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=office+chair&qid=1681033462&refinements=p_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A23575385011%2Cp_72%3A1248915011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A23540025011%2Cp_n_feature_nine_browse-bin%3A8729538011%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A23558247011&rnid=23558233011&s=furniture&sr=1-2, but that does not mean that I recommend it!! I seems to have a short seat pan, but I don't know how comfortable the backrest is (doesn't seem adjustable in height, and I can't determine if there are pressure points caused by the frame). If you manage to sit on it, it might be worth trying... but again, buying on a chair without testing it is a risky game...
bought the Fern and 6 months later i find this video which proved my doubts. There is, indeed, something wrong with the dimensions (long femurs + short torso) of this chair. Not major, but not perfect either.
A company with 500 employees need to buy 10+ different models, people are not the same ! It looks nice all the same keyboard, mouse, chair, desk in the same color but it's a horror for the employee. Here a compare between a Ahrend2020 ( it's populair in the Nederlands) bimvr.nl/haworth_fern.pdf
On paper, you're 100% right Erwin. But infrastructure departments hate to deal with several suppliers, models, guarantees, etc. Therefore they push for some kind of uniformity... When I was living in your country and working for a big international organization in Rijswijk, we needed 500 chairs over 3 years. Back then, the test results showed that we could satisfy 90+% of the users with the Kinnarps 6000 (old model), provided that we had x% of short seat pans and y% of big gas springs. Only medical cases had a special chair. This way, everybody was happy...
