This is THE ONLY how to that doesn't completely disassemble the grids. Makes it 1000X easier. One thing I did different was to drain body, then lift out grid assembly. Thank s again!
I found an easy way to reinstall DE filter pads that needs to be shared. I don’t do videos so perhaps you can add this to one of yours. I was one of those who struggled with getting my Hayward filter pads realigned after taking them off the manifold. There was always one or two that would leak DE back into the pool on completion. I thought one or more may have torn but it turned out the filter pads weren’t seated properly to the manifold. I found it by running the pump in the backwash mode (cover off) and seeing water leaking from several of the connections. After disassembling I turned the manifold upside down, started with the short pad and worked clockwise outside to inside making sure all pads were well seated into the manifold and there correct spacers. The hardest part was getting the long bolt back into the manifold hole and it wasn’t that bad. All in all this was a much easier task than working from the normal position and no leaks or DE back into my pool. As a side note, I almost purchased a new filter set at $100 plus.
This was one of the most complete and descriptive DIY videos I have seen! This was something I had never completed before, and my pool guy couldn't help for several days. Worked perfectly! thank you!!
Thank you so so much for making this video. I bought a foreclosure home with a pool 17mo ago. I know nothing about pools. However, I knew my pool guys weren't doing a complete job. Jets in my spa were not working, slow jets in pool and very reduced spillover from jacuzzi to pool. My 12yo grandson Gavin (shown in my picture) followed your directions and BAM!! I have a well running pool! I'm so so excited. Thanks again for your help!!
FYI - Waste mode completely bypasses the filter tank... Also, you do not need silicone for the tank oring. Just remove and clean and lube. And ALWAYS completely disassemble grids to check for tears.
Thank you for this video. I just bought a house with a pool. And I’ve never owned a pool before. Most other videos cover sand filters. Thank you for the thorough and detailed explanation of each step in cleaning a DE filter.
If after your pressure is still high on the gauge and flow is bad; take the grid system apart and video the arrangement with your phone. Use a clean garbage pail or tub with cascade dishwasher detergent, add some CLR, mix it well. Let them sit for three hours which will remove the calcium buildup.Then pressure wash with the widest fan never starting with blast from the nozzle directly onto the grid, move slowly onto the grid back and forth and you will see a big difference. Mixing one scoop of earth at a time in a 5 gallon bucket half full of water with a paint mixer and a battery drill ensures the earth will cover the grids evenly otherwise the earth clumps on the grids unevenly.
Thanks for the help. I'm a new pool owner, didn't know anything about pools. I have the exact same system and did everything you did. The pressure is now back to normal. The previous owner had the wrong size filter o-ring installed (too big) so Leslie's had one the correct size. No more bubbles coming out of the pool water outlets! Great!
Nice video. A little tip. Top off the pool with extra water to be able to backwash a few times before you start the process. This will clean the element somewhat and lighten the weight when you remove it plus easier cleaning. You will never get those filters 100% clean (if you want them 100% clean) unless you take them apart one by one and clean then individually. Once replaced into the manifold your pressure will be back to factory specs and your vacuum will run more efficiently and much faster. I clean my DE filter once a month and backwash every 2weeks and rinse. So new DE every two weeks (which is a bit over kill) but runs and extends the life of the filter. DE is cheap and your pool will glisten with of course proper chemical balance.
To other watching, be extra careful with the drain plug... Found today the hard way that the one i was working on was brittle. Thanks for the video, gave me confidence to tackle the job. Today was the second time doing it, came back to double check that i don't miss anything. Thanks again. Ohhh and some other warned about the top being fiberglass, yeah be extra careful, itches like hell...🤣🤷🏾♂️
Actually no he didn't. He didnt disassemble the filter grids and wash the from the other side of the grids and inspect each grid for damage...and he wasnt able to inspect the bottom side of the manifold for cracks.
lots of know-it-all pool de filter cleaning experts on here critiquing your vid. I appreciate your method as it'll save me an hour. Thank you and to all the captain-obvious pool heroes, no duh taking it all a part is the best method. But we working homeowners have lives here, so relax and have a drink. Rest well knowing I'm all about the shortcuts, and you cannot stop me from loving em. Muhaaa haaaa!
These "know-it-all" experts are not trying to be rude and critique, they are trying to help people with more information. Without fully removing the grids it's impossible to clean the entire grid and you run the risk of missing tears. It's also important to remove the o-ring, clean it, and apply fresh lube before replacing it. These aren't rude critiques, they are important tips. Forgive people for trying to help you avoid costly repairs down the road.
Wow Informative Video.. Touched on so many little bits of info most other's never mention. So many videos over look many of us are total newbie's. It maybe a common knowledge point to you or a person who has years experience with pools. But for a novice like myself this video answered so many questions. ☆☆☆☆☆ Fantastic Thank You Cruzer In CT
Few suggestions: 1) backwash before you do this and save yourself a little cleanup mess. 2) wear gloves when you take the top off the filter. When these fiberglass housings get old and sunbaked the fibers can stick up and make your hands very itchy for days 3) If you are taking the time to take it apart, take your filter grids out, you'd be surprised what you miss. Lastly, don't hit the grid with a high pressure stream, you can poke holes in it. Where can I get some of those shorts?
Thanks for the suggestions, they are all good ones. The fiberglass can be itchy especially if you lay your bare arms on it. The shorts are Target special if I recall.
As I'm sure you already know there's several other important things left out or done wrong. You added some very important tips. One of the items I feel important is when reassembling the Hayword filter housing is to first clean that large o-ring and lube the entire ring all around. Secondly when tightening the housing clamp is to take a dead blow hammer and tap all around that clamp in between tightening that clamp spring nut assembly. All too often that clamp will stick to that fiber glass and not tighten properly.
A year ago I mentioned good idea to wear mask using D powder to protect lungs and not to rest skin on fiberglass top of filter, causes intense Itching, rash & pain. If gets on, wash arms well to avoid itching, some more sensitive to than others. I accidentally deleted my post while trying to edit. Had several likes (thank you all) someone commented under? Sorry accidentally deleted my post, it took if comment under. Thanks for video, tips, advice to help all. Well done!
Pretty sure you should remove the grids completely to get it properly cleaned and all the green washed out. I'd also highly recommend removing the o-ring and cleaning the groove and ring really well before applying the lube and putting it back on. Not sure what the purpose of putting into waste mode was, the filter housing was completely cleaned out before turning it back on. I'd also highly recommend priming it before turning pump back on to reduce stress on the motor.
Thanks for the video! I am a do-it-yourself-er and I just needed a little confidence to do this task! Good job over all for sure! However, the true test will be when I go to actually clean it this weekend!
What a great video. I appreciate you taking the time! I just recently decided to maintain my own pool, and your video will certainly help me. Thanks a bunch!
First video I saw where the grid was NOT disassembled. Like the others, I too was going to comment that the proper way to clean is to take it all apart. Needless to say, due to poor design it's a charlie foxtrot. Even though there might be some parts missed during cleaning, the low filter pressure has me convinced. Next time I'm going to try it this way. Concerning the filter ring, through the years I have never applied anything to it and it has never leaked. I find that a simple water rinse is all that's needed.
Hi Jake, Thanks for your comment. I to am aware the most professional and time consuming method is to disassemble all of the grids to inspect and perhaps even clean a bit more. Just to be clear though for all of the other comments received that this is not the 'correct' method. I have performed this cleaning both ways and not seen much of a difference. Meaning I cleaned the filter without taking the grids apart, then I took the time to fully disassemble the grid to inspect the thoroughness of the cleaning. I have to admit there was a small amount that was missed but not much at all. Certainly not enough was missed to make it worth doing a full disassemble each time. I do however, recommend a full disassemble for inspection purposes every third time or so, just to make sure that there are no grid pieces with holes that need replacing. Holes in grids are a BIG NO NO, as this will pretty much screw up the entire filtering operation.
Yes, the SLIGHTEST hole and you're all but guaranteed that's where the lion's share of the water is gonna go. I just don't get it, why does the design have to be so user UNfriendly. Struggling to get it all reassembled correctly is 90% of the time involved. The day someone invents a set up that's easy to reassemble is the day someone's gonna get rich! For what it's worth, when I replaced my grids I kept the few remaining good ones. I don't recall holes, but there were broken ribs. Because they're so expensive, I figure to just replace any bad ones with a used good one. Gotta get that mileage. :) Thanks.
@@jakejones5736 I would suggest that you know you have a hole in the grid if you see DE powder being blown back into the pool. That is when I would do the more thorough disassemble/cleaning. Also, I had to buy a new filter last year, and the new one came with this circle - a plastic template that greatly assists with the (re)placement of the grids after cleaning. Maybe that is available as a separate, stand-alone purchase. Well worth it!
Mine also has the template that assists in holding the grids in place until the top plenum can be attached; but the issue is getting the bottom of the grids in the correct position, not the top. I just cleaned my filters the other day, and have yet to do it without complete disassembly. I forgot about what I said until I read your post. Hopefully, I can remember to try the quick clean procedure next time.
@@jakejones5736 Pentair DE filters come with a templet for reassembling the manifold last, but you have to set the grids on the base first and have them lined up correctly in the notches. Start with short grid first, of course. The Hayward DE filters have to be assembled on the manifold, with the manifold sitting upside down on the ground, then put the base on top, twist it around some so that the grids fall in place into the correct notches. As for ease of assembly, well, Pentair has a DE filter that uses 4 cartridge type DE filters. They’re cartridges that resemble the conventional paper cartridges filters, but are DE specific and are easier to work on.
Hi... Thx so much. this was a great video. I used to have the cartridge system just got the DE two years ago and was baffled. Thx again for making this seem doable. I got this thx to you.
My backwash unit completely broke and I can't remove it, so my only choice is to replace the entire pipe it's nestled in and that would actually start a chain reaction of needing to replace the entire unit. Now mind you, the unit is over 10 years old so I agree that it's time however I can't afford it currently. All of that being said is to preface why I agree with him in removing the entire filter unit at once. Because I cannot back wash I have to clean my filters manually more frequently and choose to remove them as a whole. The thing I do differently though is that after hosing everything down I INVERT the unit and hose again. I get a lot more junk off that way. Lastly, I also remember to lube the small O-ring that goes around the water inlet pipe at the top of the filter unit housing. Oh, and I never use that much lube on the large O-ring and the lube must go all the way around the o-ring surface not just blobbed on top.
Hmm, I have always taken it completely apart removing the middle nut/bolt connecting the two ends. Removing each one and cleaning separately, always with the one side down to drain. Yes first time tricky to put back together, but just need a level spot on concrete. It provides which one has the one piece that is not as wide.
Also, mix the DE with water in a bucket to a porridge consistency then add to the skimmer. Also definitely wear a dust mask (DE is nasty stuff to breathe in).
Silicone lube maybe a bad idea. Everyone should check to make sure.the seal is not made from silicone base. If it is, the silicone will.dissolve the seal and a big mess will come about. Best to use a product called magic lube on the seal. Also, Diamateous earth pool grid material is carcinogenic. They make cellulose stuff that replaces. You use less, non toxic so need to wear a mask when adding it to the pool, lasts longer and less expiensive. :) thanks the video!!
I like to remove the large o-ring gasket and wipe it down with a rag, then squeeze the silicone lubricant into my rubber gloved hand and wipe it 360 degrees around the gasket. I also lube the smaller o-rings while I’m at it.
After you released the pressure, you should take the drain plug so all the water is out of the filter avoiding for the dirt to go back to the pool. Than you should tear a part the complete filter grids, so all the dirt comes out from the grids and the top manifold. Also you should replace your O'ring manifold, it is recommended by the manufacturing every time you clean your filter and inspect your filter O'ring tank to see if it need to be replace. You have an idea but not professional.Missing too many points in order to avoid to do it again.
+Ivan Cabrera Thanks for the input Ivan. I am coming at this from a homeowner aspect. I think the manufacturer would probably be very happy if I replaced as many parts as possible each time I clean the filter. Regarding taking out the grids, if you are willing to put in the extra 45 minutes or so each time you clean the filter, have at it. As a homeowner, I clean the grids by leaving them in and inspect them visually for leaks. If I take your time, I have found I can clean them in-place much more efficiently than completely dismantling the entire system.
@@goodliving3079 So true! Taking them apart and struggling with the assembly kept me from prtfotming regular cleaning, which led to multiple grids with holes. Your easy approach means much better overall maintenance and results. Also, visit www.ivancabreraisinsane.com !
He is missing some critical step to help make the job easier. First thing you would back wash to remove some of the old DE. You would then release the pressure on top, open up the lower drain in the back of the filter. This gives you a lighter, cleaner filter to work with.
@@eastwestmommy9001 If you know what you are doing, sure. If you are depending on Leslie's to tell you, then you can be sure they are telling you to use way too much! How much you use also depends on how much you choose to use!
Just turn on the pump (normal filter mode) and water pressure should pop the top loose. If concerned with safety, leave the band loosely on, but should just pop up less than an inch. One guy says to remove and wash the grids every month, but seems crazy, so just annual for me with a backwash and add DE every month or anytime I see pressure >8 psig. But, I'm back in-there again after just 4 months since my pool and filter got green-slimed by excessive earthworm guts and leaf phosphates after a very rainy winter (for CA), plus been cheap on chlorine since still exorbitant price in May 2023. Your's was slimed even worse than mine.
Good presentation overall. In the beginning of the video, work on keeping the hands out of the way of the camera lens or get the camera shot from a different angle so that the action your are describing is visible to the viewers. Every time I see a video, I learn; so thanks for he demonstration.!
I take mine and grease it up in my hand then snap it back, this ensures that the silicone gets in through all of the cracks. Same goes for whole house water filters like Big Blue.
my filter is leaking from the center. I'm thinking the pool guy never put the silicone on it after cleaning the filter. Would you advise I check for any cracks or other troubleshooting steps to determine why the leak at the ring of fuel filter when pumps running? Not massive but its leaking
Question: At video time 7:28 that is part DEX2420GA on Haywood pol part, Do you know if that part needs to be glued? Also I ran my pump when it was at open in the format you have it and water was shooting out of the connection where the black pipe connects to the brown 90. Do you know if that is how it suppose to happen and what causes that?
why would I still be loosing prime when I turn everything back on. New pump, variflow valve and motor. cleaned all panels and did not see any visible issues.
I see several video in youTube, you are the only one does not soak or spill the water from the tank, when you open the top lit of the tank, I just want to make sure, we need to backWash first before open the filter tank? I mean backWash with the motor run? Or motor not run? Thank you very much
It would be nice if it could just do a automated backwash the filter to drain procedure by itself. Cuz I was born with a disability that makes me extremely lazy. If you wash the filter at the furthest corner of your property there's less cleanup.
I've heard that their wanting to get rid of the DE filters because the DE is known to cause cancer. Is this true I wonder? I've not found anything about it on the net. I myself use the sand filtration system and am very happy with it.
I recall when I first got into it, I found a lot of gunk. However, as I clean the filter more often now, I have taken the grids apart and found very little missed. I clean more often because it is not such a pain in the arse to put the grids back in. With that said, if you find it better to take the grids out, more power to ya!
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Once I add the DE small white specks rerun to the pool and spa. Once I clean the spa (hours of running the filter) they don’t return. Any idea why this is?
