Hayward Pro Grid DE Filter Cleaning - Complete Process - 2 of 2

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This video completely demystifies the DE filter maintenance as well as dispels a few myths about what really happens when doing some accepted practices throughout the year. All steps are covered in this two part series as it relates directly to the DE system.
Including:
Discussing elements getting clogged with grease and minerals
How to test for this issue
Degreasing and demineralizing elements
Manifold test
Replacing o-rings
Cleaning mating surfaces
Seal lubrication
Reassembly
Preparing and adding DE to system
Testing and evaluation
Always determine the pressure of a new system at given speeds as a benchmark and record those value as a measurement of system health.

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@Mr_Weather860 3 года назад

This is the only video I've seen that actually takes you through each step without skipping vital ones. Great job!

@retrotechandelectronics 3 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@AlmaGonzales-vc4yv 11 месяцев назад

Thank you so much! I am a 71 year widow who's son usually takes care of this but was not available now. This is my exact model and followed step by step. again, thank you!

@retrotechandelectronics 11 месяцев назад

Glad to hear the video was helpful to you.

@tomleach8579 3 года назад

I wish I saw this earlier. I had washed my filter but didn’t do the degreasing step. Filter would go from clean to clogged in 15 minutes. It drove me crazy. Him showing filling the dirty element with water and not draining drive home the need for the 2 step cleaning at the end. Most filter cleaning videos never mention this step. Great job.

@michaelruys5021 Год назад

Such a great tutorial. I rewatch it every 6 months as this is the interval I use to do this service.

@MrJnmorales Месяц назад

Great tutorial! I have the same filter and I am going to do the filter cleaning for the first time by myself following your instructions. Thanks a lot!

@retrotechandelectronics Месяц назад

You're welcome.

@homehunter1854 2 года назад

This is by far the most informative video. The recording of the PSI at different pump speed is good. Now that I am not that worry my filter pressure is abnormal as I was always concerned if I add too little DE that didn’t coat it enough or DE blow out from the return that makes the pressure less than 5 psi at 1300-1500 speed.

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

Thats the best way to keep track of a normal system and when its time to service it.

@jamesw4445 3 года назад

Thank you for the Muriatic Acid tip. My pool filter, baskets were all coated with rusty red. Muriatic acid solution removed most rusts. My Hayward filter grid elements were all cracked and broken, leaking DE into pool. Bought a new set of grid elements and put it in today. Your tips really helped. Thank you.

@retrotechandelectronics 3 года назад

Glad to hear its fixed.

@jamesw4445 3 года назад

@@retrotechandelectronics The pool water is sparkling today. It’s very high in chlorine as I poured a few gallons of chlorine in to keep algae at bay without a filter.

@edwardmccrae5155 2 года назад

Very helpful! Never disassembled filter grids while cleaning. I can see why it is important to do so.

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

For a sufficient cleaning, degreasing and inspection it’s a must.

@MrXcrt Год назад

Outstanding vid ! Step by step process explained in clear plain English with some humor 😂! Getting ready to do some much needed maintenance on my pool filter , thanks again

@retrotechandelectronics Год назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@Jen-nn7bn 2 года назад

Absolutely amazing and helpful and completely thorough video. Thank you very much for sharing your expert knowledge.

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

You're very welcome!

@markhann3628 2 года назад

Thanks for the detailed explanation. Made my first time cleaning my DE filter a lot less daunting.

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

Glad it helped

@barryg41 6 лет назад

My only leak was at the big oring. I have a pleated cartridge system. I also use a 55 gallon bucket to soak my filters. I clean my filters after an increase of 10lbs. Pressure on the filter housing. Usually about 4 times a year. No DE sand! Good video!

@retrotechandelectronics 6 лет назад

Ok the filter cartridge is an entirely different system.

@JuanMorales-pq4vq 5 лет назад

Awesome and well detailed cleaning process for the DE filter. Will watch again.

@retrotechandelectronics 5 лет назад

Glad that you found it helpful.

@jimanderson1836 Год назад

Very infofmative ! Great video ! What detergent did you use in the first step of soaking the filters?Laundry detergent , dish washer detergent ?

@johnmatarese 2 года назад

First time doing this job and you made it super easy. Thank you

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

Glad it helped!

@edickes Год назад

Thank you for posting such an informative, clear video with great explanations. Very helpful. Question for you. I think I saw it the first time thru the videos, but could not find it when I went back thru them: For a fresh charge of DE after thoroughly cleaning the filters, I use 100% of the manufacturer's recommended charge (4.5#, in my case). What % of a full charge of DE should be added if I only do a backwash without cleaning the filters? Thanks for all your help. Eric

@RexCramer22 4 года назад

Great video! Very helpful, thanks for posting!

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@ithirstyforknowledge 3 месяца назад

Can't thank you enough!

@retrotechandelectronics 2 месяца назад

youre welcome.

@deodea Год назад

Thanks for these complete videos. I followed exactly as you showed, and made a dilution even a bit higher than what you stated at 15:1 ratio. Unfortunately it didn't work for me, I had a starting pressure of 20PSI, after the bath of 4 hours, it was exactly 20PSI again. If you could give me a hint I would gratefully $ thank you. A hint for other viewers. If at HD must buy HDX muriatic acid 31.45 % or anywhere also it must be 31.45%. NOT Klean Strip as it's already diluted and weak! It wont work.

@jimackermann3477 3 года назад

Maybe I missed it, but what product and what ratio did you use for the degreasing stage of the filter elements?

@retrotechandelectronics 3 года назад

I used muriatic acid and water, diluted weaker than 4:1

@Notme-rk5iz 2 года назад

What did you use for the first degreaser step? Not the muriatic to demineralize.

@drmhf 2 года назад

Would it be advantageous to immerse the entire manifold with the grids and filter elements intact, into an acid bath, after hosing it clean? Less time consuming and less labor intensive. Is there any part of the assembly that can get damaged by the muriatic acid?

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

It needs to be disassembled anyway for inspection, there are no shortcuts on a DE filter maintenance.

@michaelruys5021 2 года назад

Great video

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

Thanks!

@billwilliams5889 3 года назад

My 2009 DE4820 owner’s manual doesn’t show an O-ring but a “metal reinforcing band” that Hayward says NOT to lubricate. When I replaced the entire grid unit, I noticed that the replacement unit does not have the skinny filter piece coming out of the top. So either Hayward has changed things since 2009 or the unit I have is an aftermarket unit ?

@retrotechandelectronics 3 года назад

I have a separate video to replace the unit up on top which is in fact a replacement part from the company after mine had failed.

@edwardmccrae5155 2 года назад

Have you ever come across the union nut connecting salt cell generator to pool plumbing splitting thru the threads? And if so, is split nut connector that I have seen online a suitable replacement? There is not enough pipe length to cut off and replace the union fitting.

@retrotechandelectronics 2 года назад

I broke one once on a similar application, they sell them at big box stores like home depot

@arthurvin2937 5 лет назад

This is so complicated compared to the cartridge filter. Have you thought about replacing it with cartridge filter?

@retrotechandelectronics 5 лет назад

If you keep the sock on the intake and run a salt chlorinator, this is hardly any trouble. I do maintenance manually, I really could get away with once a year doing backwashes only if I was lazy

@deb5700 4 года назад

Thanks so much for these videos. We have the same filter and have had more and more sand coming into the pool each year. Last year I believe ALL of the sand came back into the pool. We have had a company open and close the pool, and I always ask about the sand and they say the filter looks good. At closing I watched him clean and inspect it for any tears (although he didn't take it all the way apart like you). We need to solve this issue before opening the pool this season. What could cause that much sand coming into the pool? Could it be the manifold plastic pieces? I checked the spider gasket thinking that could cause it but it looks good. Thanks for your help.

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

this is most often due to weak points where the DE gets through the fabric or a crack in the manifold.

@mbirugotora 2 месяца назад

What size is this DE Filter ? I have a similar one and not sure what size to buy

@retrotechandelectronics 2 месяца назад

Take an old one to your pool store and size it up to be sure

@Grimreaper420ful 3 года назад

Thank you

@retrotechandelectronics 3 года назад

You're welcome

@val058 4 года назад

What size it this filter of yours? The 2420? My 2420L seems to have the larger grids, (18") has no bottom pipe glued on and the discrepancies are making me nuts.. hard to figure this thing.

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

Its possible that there were minor nuances. and running changes in the pro-grid line. Don't let it dissuade you. Walk into a leslies with your parts if you get stuck and they can let you know if it was superseded.

@robstano1676 Год назад

How Did to dispose of the muriatic acid

@retrotechandelectronics Год назад

I neutralized it with a base.

@shelliegillespie4721 4 года назад

Can you tell me what the tube is for on the bottom of the spacer? I have one too, and have no idea what it is called or the purpose. Thanks!

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

Are you talking about the big piece of cut PVC on the bottom?

@shelliegillespie4721 4 года назад

@@retrotechandelectronics yes...

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

@@shelliegillespie4721 It is the bottom center support for that whole filter cluster connected to the manifold. It has a cutout to accommodate the pipe at the bottom of the unit. It hold severything up.

@reeda.1105 4 года назад

what is the purpose of lubricating the large rubber gasket for the base cap?

@reeda.1105 4 года назад

I was having trouble clamping the containers together and having the brace flush with the outer lips of the container and the gasket was unliubricated and at the time seemed to make a large gap between the containers. It has been made apparent that the lubrication of the gasket was my shortcoming, but I would like to know the purpose of the large O-ring's lubrication

@retrotechandelectronics 4 года назад

All of the rubber parts should be lubricated for many reasons the least of which is a protectant for the material itself.