HBX 16889a PRO vs MJX HyperGo! 

Thanks Tony! Really glad you Like the channel. I try to keep it fun even if you’re not really into RC, but come on back in when you’re ready!! 😎😃

totally agree, Evan doesnt get nearly enough credit as he should here

Thanks man! 😊😃

Thanks!! Glad you enjoy the videos and music!!

Thanks man! Yes the 16890a should be very comparable! People tell me I look like jake Johnson all the time lol. Even way back when “new girl” first started lol

I agree!

Thanks Man!!! 😀

Thanks!! 😀😀

yep

Thanks!

You’re welcome!

It’s a gift really! 🤣

That part literally just played as I was scrolling these comments. My thoughts exactly.

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Awesome! Happy to have you!!

Haha! Thanks!

Haha! Like between these two?

@@DerbyCityRC all of them. And I eventually ended buying the mjx mew4 m162 for 60 eur and I m totally thrilled by this choice, that thing is a little rocket.

I’ve never reviewed that one but I’ve heard good things. Glad you’re happy with your choice!!

I've placed and cancelled two orders in the last 12hrs. I'm just going to have to buy one and not watch any more review videos until i've got it 😂

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Thanks!! I agree! The little pro is still king of the 1/16!

Thanks man!!! Hope you like my other vids too!! 😃

You bet!!! Thanks for watchin!!

You’re very welcome!!!

Awesome!!! Thanks and so glad you like the channel!! 👍👍

Hopefully an aluminum diff case will be released!!

I’ll see what I can do to incorporate this stuff into some videos. You’re right that would def be help for some people 👍

I have since made this short video here for front flips: ru-vid.comd2DopEG-nZw?si=EoXNWM-IEY7MWtvd

You’re welcome 👍

Thanks!!

That’s awesome, happy to hear that!!

Absolutely! Thanks and you’re welcome!

Thanks man!!! Yes the 168898a pro is an unbeatable RC! The WL toys are cool, but just don’t cut it for me. I really don’t have a battery that fits in there. Honestly the stock batteries they come with aren’t too bad I’ll use these here and just strap them to the chassis brace. amzn.to/3WC01MD Have you seen the video where I widened and lengthened my 16889? It gives it a much bigger battery tray.

I believe you’re correct. Glad this helped!! 👍👍

Thanks Robby!! Yes these are both pretty unbeatable for sure! I feel like every week I see a new rebrand of one of these lol Very much appreciate the comment!! 😃

Honestly after buying the Flyhal FC600 Brushless I had to get back into this Hobby properly so grabbed a Arrma Granite. The granite is awesome and I drove it exclusively for several days. I eventually decided I needed to use up some of my already charged FC600 batteries and couldnt believe how much fun I was still having with it. I can fling it around with little worry, it goes from 0-max in about 1 sec, it is stuck to the road......I love it. I read it might have shorter gearing that 16889a pro so 3s mission is on. I am not going to bother 3s ing that red combined esc/rec.....I want results 😁

Yup! Even after going from my 6s Kraton, I still have fun with these things!!

​@@nikitaromeo8837Can't go wrong with a Granite 😮totally AWESOME truck 👌 🇬🇧🤠🤟🇺🇲💯

Yes!! Finally, so happy for you lol. How did you do it?

Still waiting for the answer... 😂

Yes they’re awesome!

They’re slightly different from what I’ve seen. The 16890a is the brushless version of the 16890, which is very similar to the 16889 lol. They’re just making as many 1/16 scales as they can lol

Haha! They better watch out! Actually I just noticed last night that the HyperGo may have a slightly longer wheelbase. I thought I had checked it before and it was the same. Could be because something bent with the chassis 🤣 Glad you liked the video and agreed with my conclusion!

I also was going to mention I noticed that.

Thanks!

Glad I could help 🤣

Thanks! Luckily the newest models have much better gears in them!

@@DerbyCityRCwhat’s the model number for the newer version, literally torn between the two for a Christmas present

This one here: amzn.to/40TB5Cg Here is the review if it. Very fun car. It’s more expensive, but reflected in the quality: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8l5ghStObnE.htmlsi=LkwEY_fXFaygOjzF

How and when do you maintenance the differential?

@johnmachter40 really you should do it before running the car the first time. Make sure they’re greased or oiled. Most of these cheaper ones won’t hold an oil though. So could go with a thick grease to help the tires from “diffing out” too much. For the most part after that, unless the grease seems to be leaking out, you could just open it back up when there’s an issue. Everyone is different on their maintenance though.

I agree with all of that!! 👍👍

@@DerbyCityRC got my HBX a while ago and am going to throw a brushless motor in, what 3s battery are you guys using that fits these lil monsters?

Actually I haven’t really looked yet 🤣 I just strap a slightly bigger one to the upper chassis brace with a Velcro strap.

@@sebastianjaromi3540 I'm late to the game to hep answer your question, but I have been shy in using a 3s for the HBX. The HBX ESC even in brushless was not intended for 3s, but that doesn't mean it can't handle certain 3s batteries or short duration 3s running, I've just not tried. I have 3 kids, and I want durability, so we went a different route that I think has worked really well. We put some larger diameter and mover narrow squishy tires (slightly heavier than stock - overall track width is about the same) to increase speed, increase ground clearance, and make a small improvement in air control. They are actually crawler tires with smaller dia rim and taller tire side wall and they work well pretty dang well -especially off road! On road, they are a little bit sticky and can flip the truck, but if you adjust the steering angle on the controller they work great - even for kids. I think they are a really nice durability setup and add "usable" suspension travel (sounds dumb, but it's a real thing). So, the wheels are two piece rims that have a bead and are air seal (atmospheric pressure). If you smash hard or hit a curb, you get an extra amount of energy absorption. Sometimes on really hard impacts, they will bust the tire bead open and off the rim, but that just helps absorb the impact so the truck doesn't get damaged. The great thing is if the bead busts open, you can easily re-assemble the tire/wheel assembly with a phillips screwdriver and re-bead the tire/rim quickly. Obviously, this is a specific use case for my needs and it won't win you any races where handling is a top priority, but it will help the truck achieve a higher top speed and be more durable.

@@LGHTSPD675 Which tires?

So actually if you check out this video, that will probably help you quite a bit. Obviously a much different car but the principles are the same. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IHUf3C0wBv8.htmlsi=0ZrMgQRmKlGQfZDX

@@DerbyCityRC watched it. Too fast and way over my head. I think a ton of people would really appreciate a nice in depth maintenance and necessary new parts and improvements tutorial for the 16889a Pro.

Service videos are boring to make lol. I do usually show any service that needs to be done just incorporated into my videos, but I don’t even have a 16889a pro anymore since I turned mine into a 16889/903a hybrid. It’s much better lol

Thanks!

Thanks!! Yes I would probably keep a gear set from an hbx. I know it drops right in, and I’m pretty sure the gear pitch and teeth number are the same so shouldn’t be an issue!

It’s fun both ways. For jumping and doing tricks, the bigger tires. For running and sliding around the street, definitely the stock tires.

Good idea. Thanks!

Sorry fellas, but what is 3M dual lock exactly please?!?? (Maybe some kinda tape or Velcro type maybe? Bc so far my results have been EXACTLY like Evan's here, but none the less consistent & super on point/same w the 2 trucks Evan's comparing here and I'd love to understand this detail on my MJX's batt security/best fit w bigger battery options that otherwise wouldn't fit properly...) Thanks Evan/& REALLY everyone here on these 2 current best 16 scale beasts. And mega thx to you guys for posting such mega informative findings/possible solutions to help both brands with the very few cons that come along eventually w both brands here & how to remedy/future proof em better!!!!!!!

Glad we can all help each other! This is dual lock. Kinda like Velcro on steroids: amzn.to/3KUOapd

I don’t have them laying around at the moment, but I am ALMOST positive that you can swap the diffs, but you do need to take them apart and transfer over the HyperGo diff cups. The hyper go axles don’t fit into the hbx cups

They finally came out with a better system and a retrofit for these. Hopefully it would fit the 124008 also!

Other people hve tried and say they are. Just need to swap out and use the mjx diff cups:

The Hbx has a full speed adjustment knob, so may be the better choice. The mjx you have the option for 70% power or 100% power.

Thanks!!

I hope so too! Would be awesome! Their own version of the 2995! 🤘👍

Thanks. Basically it comes down to durability and ground handling, the hbx is better. For speed and air control, the HyperGo wins, but it’s hard to land any jumps with it. Ultimately I prefer the hbx.

Awesome, thanks!!!

2 videos ago I did try it with bigger tires. Did you see that one? I do actually have a video planned (hopefully our within a month) for doing some upgrades that should apply to the mjx. 👍👍

@@DerbyCityRC Yeah, I did see that. I think the biggest problem with the MJX is the suspension geometry... for example the front control arm are at their maximum droop with the length of the shock.... and at that length the steering binds a little... if you compress the shock a little, 10mm for example and then try the steering, it's much easier... Now, If you FULLY compress the shock, and then rotate the wheel, you will find that the axles bind and you have the reduce the compression of the shock slightly in order for the axle to free up and allow the wheel to rotate. I'm wondering if thats the reason why you may be getting bouncy landings.... I see that there are Aluminum upgrade parts now for the MJX on Aliexpress... I might get a set to see if there is an improvement in its geometry to solve the drive shaft binding issue and also the steering binding, but I agree with you that the aluminum is bad for a basher...

That may be part of the problem for sure!

@@DerbyCityRC just spent the day installing and then eventually uninstalling the aluminum ‘upgrade’ parts. Terrible product…. I’d like to try upgrading the steering servo…. Know of anything that might fit?

Ya I’ve seen a lot of aluminum parts that don’t fit right on all kinds of different cars, but honestly, they can be problematic even if they do fit right so it’s best to not have them on there in most cases. I don’t know if any aluminum parts that fit yet, unfortunately.

Thanks! Certainly can’t go wrong there!

If you’re a basher, then the mjx. If you like speed runs and track racing, it’s the WLtoys. I’d be mjx all the way cuz that’s more my style

Thanks!! We agree 👍👍

Haha nice! That’s good speed for that little thing. Super cool!

Thanks! It probably can but will need some sort of modification like new holes for body posts.

Awesome!! That model cannot disappoint!!

It’s hard to say because of that weird battery tray

Thanks bro!!!

Thanks! You could be right about that!

They do, but you have to swap over the HyperGo diff cups though as the HG axles are thicker. Glad you like the video! I’ve got bigger RCs too but my biggest is a 6s Kraton. Still love my 1/16 scales also!

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That stinks! Make sure the throttle is turned up on the remote but yes it kinda sounds like it may be a faulty unit 😢😢

Thanks! If I ever replace the chassis I’ll probably put better shocks on it lol. The diffs look like they would swap over, but you would need to use the HyperGo diff cups. I just use Red n Tacky. Im sure there’s a better option but it works lol. amzn.to/3XoQ8AG

@@DerbyCityRC Thanks for the info!

I use Lucas White lithium grease for the diffs

Can you please link the shocks you used? cheers!

@@MisterJDee Thanks. That's what I ended up using.

Sweet! Let me know if the hbx diffs drop right in. Pretty sure you will need the mjx diff cups. Otherwise it looks like it will work.

I'd like to know how that goes as well . I'm thinking of doing the same thing.

I'm interested to know how your diff upgrade goes... Also can you post a link to your shock upgrade? Cheers!

Let me know if it works?! I’ve been trying to get confirmation!

I would also like info on the diff swap and shocks

I don’t believe so. The mjx is based off of the hbx cars. The WL toys is vastly different

ThTs weird I don’t think I’ve ever broken. A diff input pinion lol. Best thing would be to look in your wonders manual if you still have it and order from Haiboxing-hobby.com. If you don’t have the manual, just email them at that website and tell the. What you need. They should respond. 👍👍

@@DerbyCityRC Thanx. I asked them. They told me if i need the input gear i have to buy the complete set including all differential gears, which will never break. That's so annoying...

That is annoying! Does it come with the driveshaft maybe? That doesn’t make sense!

Well if you’re ok with the speed of the Flyhal, I think it’s a better platform being larger and having the center diff. The 16889a pro is the most durable of them all though.

Thanks!I agree! Getting curious about the mjx electronics in the hbx! 🤔

@@DerbyCityRC I would love to see u combine the two trucks

I am considering this 👍👍

Did y'all end up combining them?

No, but still might. I ended up doing the 16889/901a hybrid. Did you see that? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--9qjYziR1kw.htmlsi=EoOobGwxbqGN1wJV

It does. I didn’t read the instructions🤣

Sounds awesome!!! Yes the destroyer body should fit, but you also nee the rear body post. That body only uses one post in the rear. The 16889 has a place for that single post to mount. Max says hi!

I just mentioned the destroyer body as it was the closest one i could see you had that was similar to Flyhal FC600 style. Now this is interesting as the Flyhal FC600 does have 2 rear body posts just like the 16889 you have. I am sure they wont just fit, be way too easy........I will take the plunge and find the cheapest pickup style body and make it fit. I was hoping they would be the same and you would say all the 16889 type chassis bodies are perfect fits.......well with exception of hyper go. I know in one of your videos you said you like to see bigger Amp ESC's to try 3s. I picked the 30 amp Hobbywing because everything I read says it does 3s no problem.......I guess I will soon know. My main reason was how little space there is in a 16889 chassis so smaller is good. Just need to get rid of a Tamiya style plug off it when it comes. I really hope it works, because it cost twice as much as the 50-60amp ones I was also considering but they were bigger. Returning goods to China is pointless. Not much room to play in the FC600 style body although I do love the low slung look and it is very stable.....until it rolls 20 times usually through a error....car error not me Oh I also am waiting for a heatsink for the FC600 motor, I am hoping it all works out, buying from China is a chore after Amazon Prime. Max keep practising, in no time at all you will be jumping higher, further and perfectly landing with more grace than your Dad. Make sure you demand extra batteries charged in advance. Good Luck😉 PS I am glad the 16889 sort of won, my FC600 is pretty much the same I am sure. Now I can have less buyers regret and concentrate on making it a 3s machine with blood sweat and maybe even tears.

Yes everything you said is spot on! Max keeps practicing and he’s getting better and better! More grace than me though?? Come on!! 🤣🤣 ok ya probably lol!!

I have another question if you have the vehicles and the time to compare. It seems to me now (after visit to skate park, my first) that the FC600 does have all the sexy important bits but actually has the 16890 chassis and not 16889 chassis. So what makes it have less ride height and can I easily change it? Shocks shorter? Is a shock swap all that's needed? You have been crazily jumping both, give me your thoughts please. After skate park jumping/learning visit I became aware of the ride height difference, until then I thought the bodies were only difference oh and tyre tread pattern. (lots of reviews have said as much) Suggestions other than bigger wheels as I have considered that but i am not into the bigger wheels just from looks.......I am sorry . Look great on your cars though! ..............(remembers yanks are armed) 😛 I might increase wheels a small tad. 😁

That’s interesting. I’m pretty sure my 16890 and my 16889s have the same chassis. What seems different? As far as ride height differences, it’s probably either shocks or the mounting holes they chose to put the shocks in that can be adjusted.

Thanks! Yes they’re both pretty awesome!!

Thanks! Glad you think it’s all epic!! 😃

I’d probably start with something between 50-80wt and see how you like it.

Glad I could help!

This for sure.

For best result please change all the gear using hbx gear. All hbx gear is compatible to mjx. Only thing you ni to swap is the diff cup using mjx diff cup on hbx whole diff system.

This is what it looked like. Can’t believe I didn’t check that for sure, but it was really late and it was cold out there 🤣

Haha lol. Thanks!!

You can watch this video for some good info on that. I’m gonna be doing another hbx pro build along with an hbx/Eachine buggy build too. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--9qjYziR1kw.html

Thanks! Yup gotta keep an eye on him!

Yup mine did all of that stuff! I’d say new esc AND a big rock lol Do it!! 😆

If I remember Ill let you know if Hobbywing QuicRun 16BL30 30A Brushless ESC works out it should be here any day. Other things I ordered on same day came last week. After getting a Granite I was surprised how much I still love the 1/16. I think I understand why Evan has a bunch of RC's on a shelf behind him I was dreaming about but uses these cheaper cars so much more often now.😁 Granite is fantastic, Arrma is great but I only bought it as I found a deal. What i actually wanted was the Team Associated MT10 so I could have a centre diff. I will always wonder what it would be like 🥲

Big rock is shipping tomorrow! I shattered the bottom steering linkage on the 903 today...I figure it will be atleast a week or 2 until I can get parts to fix that🤣

Awesome!! Ya it can take a while to get those parts 🤣

Thanks Alan!! I will look into that. I’ve seen it around before but I’ll have a closer look 👍👍

Hard to know if you mean mjx or hbx lol But yes. I’ve got a several videos on the hbx and upgrades. Most if not all of those parts will work on the mjx as well. These two videos should help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--9qjYziR1kw.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-SgIrn0QBU-g.html Now larger tires on the HyperGo do burn up diffs, but the hbx handles them very nicely!

Certainly can’t go wrong either way. I wonder how the mjx electronics would do in the hbx!!?? I agree that black body is insane!

The Rlaarlo review l video I have coming out tomorrow was pretty great all around. Ran it on dirt, grass, gravel, and concrete in this video. The MT10 does well in grass too, but grass is much harder on the electronics and battery life no matter the vehicle.

Should be able to get all the parts you can’t find on Amazon or Banggood at pxtoysrc.com. I believe Haiboxingtoys.com is the other one I’ve used a lot.

From what I remember, it will not fit with the 16889 body, but probably would if you also got the fc600 body shell

@@DerbyCityRC I figured I would have to trim the truck body to fit around the wing. Just wasn’t sure where to pick one up.

Yes it should work with body trimming. It screws to the rear shock tower. Here’s one but certainly a bit of a shipping delay amzn.to/3XTJ9zK

@@DerbyCityRC thanks

You bet!

I’d like to, but I have a few others I’m buying right now. If Banggood happens to get one soon, they may send me one to review.

Not directly. You also have to swap over a few extra parts that mount to the shock towers. May also need the mjx shock towers as well.

Thank you !

Thanks dude!!!

I can’t find it right now, but look on Haiboxingtoys.com. You will need the brushless esc as well. And also a servo if the one you currently have has 5 wires. You need one with 3 wires. Not sure if you need to change the transmitter but I’m pretty sure you don’t need to.

From my experience when it comes to 1:10 scale, the decent ones start at $330, like the granite here: bit.ly/arrmagranite It’s probably my favorite true 1/10 scale.

@@DerbyCityRC thanks man! Damn that's a good lil chunk of change. I keep trying to see for around 200 but realllly not finding crap. Or I find generic stuff that's weird name. Is brushed motors bad or should I save up and just bite the bullet and buy a good 300 dollar c as r

@waragainstmyself1159 I wouldn’t go brushed, they get hot, usually underpowered, just not as fun (to me anyway). There’s a great 1/12 scale I like and recommend and is probably my favorite car under $330. Check this out and see what you think. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9mef2vZL-eY.htmlsi=Z7MzYzse2amQO7nY

Thanks, and yes good point I forgot to mention that. Luckily the three newest HBX models have separate receivers, but certainly one of the nice things about the hyper gos!

What fun would that be? 😅

Thats all part of my durability testing lol!

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Possibly. I haven’t tried that yet. Also could change the shock positioning to lower the ride height a bit

I have another video on the HyperGo where I tried bigger tires. It was fun, but the car didn’t like it.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GeqvI9Of6C4.htmlsi=hNLn-HlzKMwOK-5n

Ya those esc are not rated for 3s tgoigh it works ok sometimes if you feather the throttle. Really need the new 16890SA model to run 3s glitch free. These are still awesome trucks and a relatively cheap esc upgrade will have you all set.

@@DerbyCityRC Thanks for the reply. Man I tried everything and just couldn't get it to work properly, not even once. You're right, these trucks are really good, I find myself bashing it more than my MT-10. Will take a look at the 16890SA too, thanks for the headsup.

Agreed!

Ill Look into that one thanks!

I really can’t remember. Both are decent, probably around 15 minutes

No the 14210 has higher quality gears. What’s your budget and preferred size for each car?

@@DerbyCityRC Thanks for your reply. I was considering: MJX 14210 HYPER GO 1/14 HBX 16889A Pro 1/16 New to the RC Car game but built drones. I think this is around budget or less on banggood. No coupons damn it :) Would these be a good option and robust. I like lipo but dont have a great run period and not a good idea for use for kids cars

Been a while since I’ve used the stock battery but I remember being very impressed. I think it was around 20 minutes.

Wow I’ll have to try that man, thanks!!

VERY interesting... any reactions from others ?

I agree. Mine is currently out of commission so I can’t try it.

Should be in the mail this week! 😃

@@DerbyCityRC real nice! Yeah that's a heck of a truck

@shortschannel6576 can’t wait to try mine!