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He Stole MILLIONS At The World Series Of Poker 

Doug Polk Poker
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This week a new scandal has rocked the poker world. Men Nguyen, also known as Men The Master, has been accused of stealing millions of chips during a WSOP tournament. In fact, the field was getting very close to the final table, with huge sums of money on the line. It doesn't get much more high stakes than this. With a colorful history, and numerous accusations in the past, Men has not been receiving the benefit of the doubt from the community. Today we have video evidence and exclusive testimony from witnesses. Let's get to the bottom of this.

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@Marmot888
@Marmot888 Месяц назад
My favorite Men the Master story: Power goes out in the middle of a poker tournament. When the lights come back on Jean-Robert Bellande yells out, "New chip leader, Men the Master!"
@Brazz27
@Brazz27 Месяц назад
LOL
@worldvaleur
@worldvaleur Месяц назад
Fuck that's some funny shit!
@CMichael2276
@CMichael2276 Месяц назад
That is hilarious 🤣
@kostanikas3881
@kostanikas3881 Месяц назад
Amazing. That’s poker. Brutal needles
@itsredbowtie
@itsredbowtie Месяц назад
😂
@wwz1011
@wwz1011 Месяц назад
Seriously, allowing cheaters in the game is BAD for the game. Should be banned from tournaments.
@SteveSherman-me9lp
@SteveSherman-me9lp Месяц назад
Wasn’t his fault dealer didn’t do the job not his responsibility
@seankelley1442
@seankelley1442 Месяц назад
He took the chips. Yes, it is his fault. WTF?
@marvincotton1919
@marvincotton1919 Месяц назад
Think about it. Villains have always played poker. It's good for the game. In a Gotham city type of way lol
@penknight8532
@penknight8532 Месяц назад
You would have no game if you threw out all the cheaters.
@thomashenshallhydraxis
@thomashenshallhydraxis Месяц назад
As I see poker; it’s for cheaters, degenerates, MC’s, lawless people, criminals… 😝 he fits perfectly. I’ve been playing since 2004. I met a lot of lowlifes.
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Месяц назад
What the hell was the dealer doing while Men was pulling his chips back out??
@1973scotta
@1973scotta Месяц назад
As much as there is no doubt men is a genuine scumbag, all that clip shows is him getting his chips back from the side pot.
@gislo
@gislo Месяц назад
yeah, thats what i thought too which makes it much weirder
@TrthWrld
@TrthWrld Месяц назад
Apparently not doing their job
@davidnguyen5422
@davidnguyen5422 Месяц назад
bro the wsop dealers are the worst ive ever seen. if you are involved in the hand, you better watch everything closely. ive had to chop up pots myself and tell the dealers which hands have won while playing. tread with extreme caution. they will literally let anyone deal the wsop
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Месяц назад
Your question is a great one. One thing Doug didn't mention (or maybe notice) is that the dealer was evidently struggling to count the chips for the main and side pots. We know this because when you turn up the audio on that video, you can hear someone call the floor over to help her count. It's only AFTER Nguyen pulls his chips back that we see the floor staffer walk over to lend a hand. Shady AF.
@stuartatkins5425
@stuartatkins5425 Месяц назад
The WSOP should be ashamed of itself for the bush league way it handled this incident. No way this poker player should still be allowed to be playing in the WSOP.
@TylerNomadic
@TylerNomadic Месяц назад
Poker dealer here. ALWAYS sort out your main pot BEFORE running out a board. If a player says "just rip it," the dealer should respond, "please allow me to make the pot right." And make the pot right first!! There are multiple side pots? Sort those first the run the board!
@Alec-cs4ri
@Alec-cs4ri Месяц назад
Yep. I used to say "No, I need to make sure the pot is right." I would never run the board unless I had all the pots right.
@webguy943
@webguy943 Месяц назад
Depends its theres massive amounts of chips itll take too long to sort out if everyone has diff chip stacks so they will just run it n figure it out cuz if the chip leader busts everyone then all chips goes to him n nothing to sort out so there r situations to be faster
@acesandroses
@acesandroses Месяц назад
Dealer here. My go to line is “I’m gonna make everyone mad but I’m going to make the main pot first” for a three way all in. I developed that as a new dealer when players would egg me on to just run the board out.
@ImDougie
@ImDougie Месяц назад
Or, or, just do it after, if everyone’s allin already, but do it after correctly. : )
@vamoneygroup
@vamoneygroup Месяц назад
Where are the cameras?
@motown867
@motown867 Месяц назад
What was the dealer doing during this hand? As a former dealer I would lose my shit if I saw a player reaching into the pot while I was sorting out the hands and the winnings.
@Ethaniel67
@Ethaniel67 Месяц назад
Not just that, but the pots should have been separated before it even started to prevent this. Pull in the short pot (standard I thought) and leave the two others in front. ALSO I saw him celebrating and NOT watching the pot. Celebrate after you have the pot settled.
@motown867
@motown867 Месяц назад
@@Ethaniel67 100%
@fuhkerz
@fuhkerz Месяц назад
Maybe you can help me out since you used to deal.. It's been a few years since I played but I'd swear I've seen dealers leave large all-in bets in front of the player rather than moving everything into fhe pot. I could be crazy, but I just have this mental image of seeing players taking down their last bet after an all-in chop then being given their half of the pot that WAS in the middle. In which case, that could very well be what we see Men doing in this video. In that case, the mistake would be that the dealer just failed to pull the appropriate amount out of each stack to call Smittys bet for the main pot. Just a thought because at first it didn't seem unusual to me to see Men taking down his last bet given that the side pot chopped. Also, it seems like other people at the table would be screaming like crazy if he were straight up pulling the chips out of the pot when he wasn't supposed to. Even if the dealer somehow missed that, I doubt the whole table would have.
@motown867
@motown867 Месяц назад
@@fuhkerz you are supposed bring all bets in. I am not going to lie, I have definitely left big stacks in front of the players, but it would still be my responsibility to make sure that players do not touch anything until the pot is settled. On the player side it is still the responsibility of the player to protect his interest at all times. The winning player should have been paying attention instead of celebrating.
@OhDearAudrey
@OhDearAudrey Месяц назад
@@fuhkerz Yes this is exactly what happened. Basically a witch hunt on this guy because of his history. He assumed like most players would that the side pot had already been separated, the other AK in the pot started to pull their chips in so he did too.
@Kevmacdaddy77
@Kevmacdaddy77 Месяц назад
Kick that cheater out of all tournaments
@MewtwoStruckBack
@MewtwoStruckBack Месяц назад
No, there's something else that should be done in cheaters, that was specifically mentioned as what was the norm by THIS CHANNEL during the wild west days. We need to go back to that.
@penknight8532
@penknight8532 Месяц назад
@@MewtwoStruckBack You don't hang a tinhorn, you run him out of town.
@MewtwoStruckBack
@MewtwoStruckBack Месяц назад
@@penknight8532 Why spare their life though? Exile and death both remove the cheater, but the chance of starting over in a new town might still let the cheater think their conduct has an out if they get caught.
@_gatsby
@_gatsby Месяц назад
don't be jealous he was smarter than the table
@tonyswe9463
@tonyswe9463 25 дней назад
Yes. Kick him out of wsop
@RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler
@RyanDepauloDegenerateGambler Месяц назад
Another aspect is they should never have the bad dealers deal this deep in an event. Like for all 10ks and the other day 2s and 3s have the better dealers deal.
@tylerberg4360
@tylerberg4360 Месяц назад
Seems pretty obvious that they should only have experienced dealers when it gets close to and at the ft , common sense isn't so common nowadays though
@mr.monologue7613
@mr.monologue7613 Месяц назад
@@tylerberg4360especially the higher buyins, players deserve that
@DatAceTho
@DatAceTho Месяц назад
It's harder than you think. The bigger or more important tournaments are harder to deal, so are you punishing the competent dealers? Or if the competent dealers are making more money, that's hard to balance, too.
@DatAceTho
@DatAceTho Месяц назад
I don't even disagree; they should have good dealers for the most important spots. I'm just saying it's not simple.
@YuriTarded-hf1nv
@YuriTarded-hf1nv Месяц назад
Team degen!!! Whaddup!!
@mikejones-we9eo
@mikejones-we9eo Месяц назад
This is why I quit playing poker. It's not the cheaters, it the institutions that are supposed to protect the integrity of the game. They continue to fail at safe and fair play, yet they continue to rake in huge profits for doing so.
@johnwhittle5730
@johnwhittle5730 Месяц назад
You quit because your a losing player 🐠🐡
@mikejones-we9eo
@mikejones-we9eo Месяц назад
@@johnwhittle5730 good one 👍
@user-ob1sb1wf5p
@user-ob1sb1wf5p Месяц назад
Least bro doesn't have to pirate switch games brokie
@hollowmenz
@hollowmenz Месяц назад
As a Vietnamese American poker player, we do not claim him, Men "the cheater"
@BaoNguyenTP
@BaoNguyenTP Месяц назад
No Vietnamese poker players respect him! He's fucking mean!
@kane_lives
@kane_lives Месяц назад
Bro, you should check your username before posting that...
@davidmendez8185
@davidmendez8185 Месяц назад
​@kanelives2895 "check your privilege bro"
@kane_lives
@kane_lives Месяц назад
@@davidmendez8185 Checked it, still 6 inches.
@pauleagle6281
@pauleagle6281 Месяц назад
It's about the standard of society. Let talk about the corruption of government officials. For some countries, any amount of corrections is considered bad. But there are many countries that small amount of corruption by government officials is OK. It's normal. For some ethnic background, I always use the term... the default is xxx until proven otherwise.
@LEFTaTIP
@LEFTaTIP Месяц назад
Men "The Angle" Nguyen. I remember playing High Limit poker way back in the late 1990's. - 1998. I saw Men discreetly take a few chips off a player stack (player who left the table to take breaks) , especially when he had to pay the waitress or server there tips. Off to the side, I alerted the poker room manager and he said Men knew the player and he was ordering him something for him too. Ok...Thats what I get trying to be the table police. A few hands later Men moved or cashed out. When Men left the table he glared at me and said something in Vietnamese. Later 3 different Asian / Vietnamese dudes kept following me. So there you go.....
@blake_lively_matters6553
@blake_lively_matters6553 Месяц назад
You can't just use the word 'there' wherever you want. Sometimes, it's the right word. Sometimes, their is called for, or even they're.
@LEFTaTIP
@LEFTaTIP Месяц назад
@@blake_lively_matters6553 , Well....thank you for the reminder. I will remember that in my next write ups. Have a great Day !!!!
@mattydips2887
@mattydips2887 Месяц назад
@@LEFTaTIPthanks for that story
@LEFTaTIP
@LEFTaTIP Месяц назад
@@mattydips2887 , Yw. Did you play at any of the LA Casinos.....??
@goodlucking244
@goodlucking244 Месяц назад
@@blake_lively_matters6553 At least they got it right the second time around “So there you go…..”
@DonMIFC
@DonMIFC Месяц назад
WSOP shows once again they have no idea what to do as soon as an inch of trouble comes along in their tournament.
@blantant
@blantant Месяц назад
If he knows the floor isn't going to do anything about it, why not just try this all the time. Sounds like a Nguyen Nguyen situation
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga Месяц назад
ISWYDT
@NoOne-ki3bm
@NoOne-ki3bm Месяц назад
😂
@danj8185
@danj8185 Месяц назад
I see what you did there
@NGRRTRd
@NGRRTRd 13 дней назад
Why not because if you do it, you’re a piece of shit evidently he doesn’t mind
@dr.options
@dr.options Месяц назад
Men's body language says it all. He knew what he was doing.
@defeatignorance8681
@defeatignorance8681 Месяц назад
He's been dirty and sleazy for decades. Why he is still around around a poker table I don't know.
@meepk633
@meepk633 Месяц назад
Are you real familiar with Men's bodies? Are you good at reading them? Could you read Men's bodies in the dark? Maybe you've said something like "You really know what you're doing" while reading Men's bodies?
@fafafohigh69
@fafafohigh69 Месяц назад
Sharks eat fish that don't understand basics of poker; you are sitting at the table with dirtbags much of the time
@dr.options
@dr.options Месяц назад
@meepk633 I guess I need to watch the video again...I don't recall any of the criteria that you just described for your fantasy evening being applicable here. Also, none of those being satisfied would detract from how obviously guilty Men is. Grow up, skippy.
@ARAKARABLUE
@ARAKARABLUE Месяц назад
Morons, the dealer botched. And that dude brings heat. Bunch of cry babies. All hearsay.
@wilfredovazquez4953
@wilfredovazquez4953 Месяц назад
Wsop event and there isn’t a good camera over the table to see where the chips went 🤨🤨🤨
@bwalsh1105
@bwalsh1105 Месяц назад
when it's not their money on the line, they don't seem to care as much.
@emt52889
@emt52889 Месяц назад
Casino don't care. It's not blackjack or paigow
@bwalsh1105
@bwalsh1105 Месяц назад
Plus they already get their rake revenue through entry fees so even less incentive to care and also with the number of poker tables and event rooms to handle them, it’s not entirely feasible. However, any tournament that gets to the money especially when it’s a smaller field should be under better scrutiny.
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 Месяц назад
They're SECURITY cameras, not poker cameras.
@wilfredovazquez4953
@wilfredovazquez4953 Месяц назад
@@aheroictaxidriver3180 exactly my point, SECURITY cameras. Shouldn’t SECURITY cameras be able to see the chips being taken? Otherwise, why are they there? It’s only to protect themselves, not the players.
@rogerfederer3817
@rogerfederer3817 Месяц назад
You're assuming any of these people that are responsible for the security of the game, are good at their jobs. This alone proves they indeed are NOT.
@webguy943
@webguy943 Месяц назад
Had same experience at casino. Dealer cheated me out some chips. Casino said they looked at the cameras n found nothing. 100% incompetent or lied cuz i knew exactly how many chips i had n i was missing some
@gswdeclan
@gswdeclan Месяц назад
There are a lot of good floormen who have a hard time dealing with emotional assholes, degens, drunks, etc... But a lot of them just want to take a bribe to move your name up the list and do as little as humanly possible to not get fired.
@nikvalinsky
@nikvalinsky Месяц назад
Hanlon's Razor
@Mitjitsu
@Mitjitsu Месяц назад
A lot of it depends on who the players are. This happened in a cash game my friend was playing last year. When two players with explosive tempers got into an argument. When one of them started moaning about bad beats despite the fact he was winning a lot and put a couple of nasty coolers on other players at the table. Understandably one of the players who plays a ton of roulette didn't take kindly to it given he was done a lot during the night, which escalated into a war of words, then chairs getting thrown and finally the game getting broken up. The casino then decided to ban the player who complaining about bad beats for a year, and took no action against the other player, because he was too valuable a customer for them.
@joegonzalez1941
@joegonzalez1941 Месяц назад
Gamblers are all crooks, nothing to see here😅
@johnnyfry2
@johnnyfry2 Месяц назад
Poker will remain a game of degenerates and shady characters because the casinos ensure it remains this way. The game could be bigger and less controversial if the casinos ran the show strictly by the rules.
@DreamChaaaserrrrR
@DreamChaaaserrrrR Месяц назад
Shut up
@chriskoshinski
@chriskoshinski Месяц назад
What's nuts is the dealer asks the floor to come "help count" the chips in the full video
@dominicbiondi4097
@dominicbiondi4097 Месяц назад
I was approached by Men's minions back in 2004 to be part of his stable. I was told explicitly to play normal, but if I'm at a table with Men, to never raise him and to make sure I fold to any of his bets. I never saw it, but did hear about other horses chip dumping to him, too. I declined the "honor" and actually busted Men from a tournament at Hollywood Park the next week lol
@jamess9037
@jamess9037 Месяц назад
Thats awesome, love when cheaters lose
@sawmill035
@sawmill035 Месяц назад
If true, that's awesome!
@officialghetty
@officialghetty Месяц назад
What was supposed to be in it for you?
@valalicante6455
@valalicante6455 Месяц назад
I heard that too, from some Vietnamese players.
@MikeO8585
@MikeO8585 Месяц назад
Stable collusion is rife
@FriendsForFriends666
@FriendsForFriends666 Месяц назад
This is what's confusing me, I used to be a croupier /dealer. One time a very good customer (friendly, funny, female) slapped my hand as a joke while I was dealing blackjack and she lost and I reached to pick up her bet. In my house that's fine. In the casino premises there are laws. One of them is never touch the dealer. (several reasons why not to from against cheating rulers to money laundering and safety). She was kicked out on the spot. Nobody was happy for doing so. Men shouldn't be allowed in the perimeter. I'm afraid to say but, if you're cheating for years and years in Vegas and still be able to walk in casinos, well, you might have friends in high places. In every aspect it's the casinos fault. 1. He shouldn't be allowed to play in first place. 2. Where is the pit boss when men pulls his stack back? 3. Why there is no pause-camera check-paying the player the correct amount? This is casino security. It's on the licence that you have to provide a safe environment for gaming.
@tito4272
@tito4272 Месяц назад
Guarantee it's Men's fault. But there wouldn't have even been an issue if the dealer would have made the main pot correct before putting out the river
@xerowolf4242
@xerowolf4242 Месяц назад
Exactly this. I was really wondering the whole time why this wasn't mentioned. I know that Men has been known to shoot angles in the past, but he is really old and it's entirely possible that he didn't even realize what he was doing here. He tied for the side pot and would in fact just take his chips back and he could have easily assumed that the dealer already made the main pot right before he did this. That being said, he should have just given the chips up when it was pointed out that they were missing. He definitely is at fault at that point.
@apecoins
@apecoins Месяц назад
@@xerowolf4242Exactly my thoughts, couldn’t have written it better myself! 💯 why Doug didn’t mention this is beyond me.
@southerncharity7928
@southerncharity7928 Месяц назад
No need. It is standard to wait till it’s over. If the ace kings won, it would be different.
@tito4272
@tito4272 Месяц назад
​@southerncharity7928 it's not standard. I've been a dealer for 15 years. You're always supposed to make the main pot correct, then figure the sidepot after if it's 3-way
@southerncharity7928
@southerncharity7928 Месяц назад
@@tito4272 is that you, men? Lol
@imalwaysbluffing
@imalwaysbluffing Месяц назад
How can they possibly say just keep going when everyone knew he was short the right amount?! That’s absolutely insane
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Месяц назад
How do they know what he started with,?
@fuhkerz
@fuhkerz Месяц назад
​@@mrhumble2937That would have been the first bit of information they had when he went all-in. From there, it's pretty easy to figure out. There were 2.5m in from blinds and antes, then Smitty got called by 2 players on a 4.525m bet. So if, at the start of the next hand, Smitty had less than 16.075m, something is wrong. Given that the amount missing is basically equal to the amount of Smittys original stack, it seems likely that the dealer simply forgot to take that amount from one of the other two players all-in bets to settle up the main pot. So while I definitely would BET that Men did this, and did it intentionally, it's also possible that it was the other bigger stack or that Men didn't even notice that the dealer failed to take out the portion for the main pot.
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Месяц назад
​@@fuhkerz I hate to say it, because I'd like nothing more for there to be - at last - hard evidence of Men cheating. But there is definitely a chance Smith had his starting stack wrong. All of this is largely predicated on what Smith says was his starting stack, then what he had when the next hand began. But again, I want to be wrong about this. I want there to be good camera footage of Men visibly pulling his chips back before the dealer and floor sorted the pots (which we DO have) plus footage of that amount affecting the various pot sizes (which we don't have, at least not from that one Tweet). We've been hearing about Men's cheating forever now, but there has never been anything more than accusations and allegations. I want to use my "one time" on finding irrefutable evidence of Men pulling a fast one on this dealer.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Месяц назад
@fuhkerz how would they know what he had before hand? Do they keep track of that stuff after every hand?
@imalwaysbluffing
@imalwaysbluffing Месяц назад
@@mrhumble2937 there was an a count for the all in amount of course
@ImNHTV
@ImNHTV Месяц назад
Why do poker players tweet like they haven’t completed middle school?
@StankHunt42
@StankHunt42 Месяц назад
With around 20 players left at a WPT main even I came back to my chips the next day to find out 1/3rd of my chips had been taken out of the bag in-between days. They didn't check the cameras and nothing happened because the game was about to start. I ended up bubbling the final table. It was life changing money for me. They need to up security cos thes events attract the worst type of people
@user-ob1sb1wf5p
@user-ob1sb1wf5p Месяц назад
How does that even happen? There aren't multiple records of every stack to cross reference any time there's a postponement? I guess the trouble is that if chips disappear, they don't necessarily have to reappear (in another stack)
@user-ob1sb1wf5p
@user-ob1sb1wf5p Месяц назад
I would have my own total recorded and probably a photo of the stack as well
@StankHunt42
@StankHunt42 Месяц назад
@@user-ob1sb1wf5p They count the number of chips with you, then record it and put them away. Thats how I knew there were less. However I turned up to the game late and everyone already had the chips out so there was no recounting everyones chips
@TheDdvd1
@TheDdvd1 Месяц назад
Men was heard saying more rake was better as he pulled the chips back in.
@ScottiMusicNow
@ScottiMusicNow Месяц назад
Booooooooooo
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 Месяц назад
GG
@MrKydaman
@MrKydaman Месяц назад
I still can't believe that Feldman let the joke bet slide. Players feelings aside, you have to protect the integrity of the game.
@winningbackthegirl
@winningbackthegirl Месяц назад
@@Fatboypool he caved like a child and adelstein pretty much had to stand up for him.
@nicholi2789
@nicholi2789 Месяц назад
It was bullshit for the floor to make it Ryan’s decision. The floor is the one who needed to grow some balls and make an absolute ruling. Which he did not. He put it all on Ryan.
@nicholi2789
@nicholi2789 Месяц назад
It was bullshit for the floor to make it Ryan’s decision. The floor is the one who needed to grow some balls and make an absolute ruling. Which he did not. He put it all on Ryan.
@webguy943
@webguy943 Месяц назад
Yup no balls feldmen. Floor manager also had no balls
@aheroictaxidriver3180
@aheroictaxidriver3180 Месяц назад
This is a big conspiracy. It's called ELECTION INTERFERENCE. You don't want Armenian Mike to be Mayor because you know he would drain the swamp.
@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny
@Dylan_thebrand_slayer_Mulveiny 14 дней назад
Casino's don't care because they don't lose anything. If it was their money he was cheating for, they'd break his fucking face.
@stolencoats63
@stolencoats63 6 часов назад
Exactly!
@coachpete327
@coachpete327 Месяц назад
How is nobody putting any blame on the dealer?
@wreagfe
@wreagfe Месяц назад
Because they have a "hard job".
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Месяц назад
Plenty of people were (and are).
@coachpete327
@coachpete327 Месяц назад
@@6thwilbury2331 Ah. Okay. I’ve only seen this video, Negreanu’s video, and read the Scott Seiver thread. Hadn’t seen anybody mention the dealer
@4llenjames
@4llenjames Месяц назад
@@wreagfe Why aren't you paying attention to your hand, chips, etc as a player? You just walk in and put a blindfold on and expect everyone to cater to you like an infant? Dealers do have a hard job. Dealing is easy. Dealing with people like you is what makes it hard.
@California_Poker
@California_Poker Месяц назад
100% on the dealer
@fartytowels8409
@fartytowels8409 Месяц назад
Nguyen has always reminded me of that guy hosting the Russian Roulette game in The Deer Hunter. Absolutely vile.
@thekushzilla
@thekushzilla 20 дней назад
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@shpakslife
@shpakslife Месяц назад
Had the same thing happen to me at WSOP this year. Went all in on a big pot and we chopped. As we pulled back I noticed the player grab extra chips that I put in. Once I counted my stack I lost 20% of my chips on a chop pot which I should have gained from antes. The guy argued with me at first then the whole table stood up for me and recalled the action and the guy finally gave back the chips. Be careful out there and alert!
@williamsun8984
@williamsun8984 Месяц назад
Love the content and humor mixed in with the news, good coverage Doug
@pierrepoulin6441
@pierrepoulin6441 Месяц назад
Dealers at the WSOP are the worse, they get ZERO training and are expected to know how to deal 🤣🤣 WSOP should train them for at least 1 day, it would help a lot. Or put them through an easy online training prep
@Alec-cs4ri
@Alec-cs4ri Месяц назад
@@phitruong-xt1pz Lol most dealers make well over 100k and "without trying"? Possibly one of the most inaccurate statements I've ever heard. 😆 Wrong on both counts.
@phitruong-xt1pz
@phitruong-xt1pz Месяц назад
@@Alec-cs4ri you must not know very many dealers or on the defensive. An average dealers dealt a minimum of 20 hands every 30 minutes. Some houses with the shuffler they can pump out like 25 average. Tips 2-3 per hand average do the math. And you don’t think they should get any kind of training. From what I know and experienced of course
@Alec-cs4ri
@Alec-cs4ri Месяц назад
​@@phitruong-xt1pz I used to deal up until recently and we absolutely weren't averaging 2-3 bucks per hand. Maybe it's different where you are but we were probably averaging a dollar per hand in any given shift. Plus a good amount of time we would deal PLO so definitely not 20 hands every 30 minutes on those tables. On top of that, dealers usually get a lot of breaks so even if you're working 8 hours, 2 or more of those hours are breaks.
@pierrepoulin6441
@pierrepoulin6441 Месяц назад
@@phitruong-xt1pz A dealer that deals you 20 hands in 30min knows what they are doing, we’re not talking about them, I hope you’re not cuz if you are you’re wrong AND a douchebag 😂
@corysatx8730
@corysatx8730 Месяц назад
played in this event and couldn't believe the dealers they had . they were basically having to be told what to do by the entire table. also a guy died on one of the flights they didn't even pause the clock it was pretty insane.
@user-bc4pm7sq7r
@user-bc4pm7sq7r Месяц назад
not 100% sure of year but pretty sure it was 2014. I played in a Foxwoods tournament where you started with 30k in chips. Everyone had 1 gray 10k chip. After about 50 minutes of play no one had busted from the table but someone noticed one of the Asian players had 2 gray chips. 9 players on the table and 10 gray chips. I was told the player with the extra chip was one of Men's "posse". Player protested innocence and all that happened was floor took away the extra chip.
@acesbros2966
@acesbros2966 Месяц назад
You know it’s really bad when “breaking news” knocks off the headphones.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Месяц назад
Why aren't people bashing WSOP as currect like they do HCL as shady? Way more issues.
@cadillacmoto
@cadillacmoto Месяц назад
They stopped another tournament to see the end of an NBA playoffs game. Probably making sure that players placed bet with the appropriate sports book. But they couldn't stop the tournament to take care of this to the max extent possible. Unreal
@alexlee4708
@alexlee4708 Месяц назад
We really can’t be surprised that Men was involved. Now let’s be clear, the fault lies with the dealer. The dealer did not maintain the pot or control the action appropriately. The dealer never brought all the money into the middle matching the small stack as they are taught to do. Men, being the enterprising player that he is, pulled his stack back because he noticed the dealer never pulled in the money. Another player and we can chalk it up to possibly being an honest mistake in all the excitement because people were distracted by a bust out. But with Men, there is absolutely no doubt he did this knowing exactly what he was doing. The man is scum.
@tonioscali9400
@tonioscali9400 Месяц назад
HiHi, Doug. Great to have you in front of the cameras again.....keep'em comin'......
@yaniyuhara8165
@yaniyuhara8165 Месяц назад
Where WAS the DEALER !? Wasn’t the dealer the judge and referee ? An incompetent dealer ! Investigate and put Men in jail ! Stealing chips is equivalent to stealing money.
@brianscott6400
@brianscott6400 Месяц назад
Technically not Money to the casino. iTS NOT mONEY TILL YOU CASH.
@stevennguyen3641
@stevennguyen3641 3 дня назад
I dealt this Men the Master a month ago. His attitude is unbearable. Dude keep on cursing because of miss draws or losing.
@deenyc1049
@deenyc1049 Месяц назад
He must be cutting people in. How could the staff not see him stealing 4.5 million in chips?
@medea27
@medea27 Месяц назад
From a business management perspective, those $2m in 'consolation' chips strongly suggest to me that there wasn't adequate camera coverage of the table, but organisers didn't want to admit it. Simply put... if they had coverage of the table including the dealer, organisers could have reconstructed the movement of chips & confronted Men with the evidence to get him to cough up. The fact that they "reviewed the cameras" twice and _still_ pressed Foutty to put money in rather than demanding the chips from Men, tells me they had _no idea_ what happened at that table & when they got caught lacking by Smith rightly demanding a proper resolution, they scrambled for a solution that would be acceptable and stop further inquiry. I bet that footage of Nguyen that surfaced on Twitter had them sweating... Men's not even subtle about it. Not a good look for WSOP.
@kane_lives
@kane_lives Месяц назад
I don't understand what Foutty did. Why did he give away the chips he did not owe? Is he just a doormat? Also, it seems like other players not involved in the hand said that Men owed the chips, but the floor did something bizarre instead? Is the floor a moron?
@thekushzilla
@thekushzilla 20 дней назад
ty
@gdaddy2531
@gdaddy2531 Месяц назад
Brilliant reporting Doug....way to get to the bottom of this stuff!....
@donaldshuemake6010
@donaldshuemake6010 14 дней назад
If that happened on the casino floor they would take care of the problem. The question is WHY DO THEY ALLOW IT AT THE WSOP?????
@DrBrightSCP
@DrBrightSCP Месяц назад
Mr Polk congrats on the new card club opening in September in Texas . I was wondering about job opportunities . I live in CA and will relocate .
@kalebpate613
@kalebpate613 Месяц назад
Is that what the shirt is about? Is it in San Antonio?
@katastrafika5253
@katastrafika5253 Месяц назад
He shouldn’t be allowed to play in Casinos
@trentk268
@trentk268 Месяц назад
My experience with floormen is that they're not interested in barring cheaters. They just want to keep the cards in play.
@michaelgrayrn4579
@michaelgrayrn4579 Месяц назад
Awesome editing!
@tbone33-pc9fq
@tbone33-pc9fq Месяц назад
Next time keep your seat and watch whats going on at the table
@howard5992
@howard5992 Месяц назад
Also, what was the dealer doing during this time ?
@webguy943
@webguy943 Месяц назад
​@@howard5992day dreaming it happens dealers r human.
@BROEWCOIN-mi1op
@BROEWCOIN-mi1op Месяц назад
He learned the hard way 🎉
@tbone33-pc9fq
@tbone33-pc9fq Месяц назад
@@howard5992 It was the dealers fault but could be a new dealer with their 1st dealing job. Sit in your seat count your chips and play poker.
@agoo7581
@agoo7581 Месяц назад
Victim blaming is fucking stupid, and so are you.
@cateatfood6634
@cateatfood6634 Месяц назад
Tournament director should be fired, there is clear evidence of what happened. Why not resolve it? These casinos have the best cameras. What are we missing here? Like wut??
@Squeech77
@Squeech77 Месяц назад
I'm a baby poker dealer, thank you for defending your dealers Doug it's silly how this job is actually difficult but it really is
@thc024
@thc024 26 дней назад
No way I'd break off 1m in chips to cover for a known cheater...be getting banned throwing a sheet fit 100%
@jhwangbo1
@jhwangbo1 Месяц назад
Thanks for MENtioning it! 😂
@Fireleaf
@Fireleaf Месяц назад
This goes deep 😬
@richboyprado
@richboyprado Месяц назад
Good catch Doug #smooth
@michaelphines1
@michaelphines1 Месяц назад
Good job on the intro Thomas. Never waste a good clip. Nice catch Doug.
@ttriqu2841
@ttriqu2841 Месяц назад
Great video! Thank you for the content.
@haithamfoty1371
@haithamfoty1371 Месяц назад
forgot his children. LMAO great video!
@howard5992
@howard5992 Месяц назад
must be grandchildren, TBH
@olgierdvoneverec
@olgierdvoneverec Месяц назад
I mean they all look the same...
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Месяц назад
To me, Men pulling the chips back isn't necessarily evidence of wrongdoing in itself. He had the largest stack of the three. When I first saw this, I sort of figured that's what had happened: the awarded the main pot, then split the side pot, which is what we see Men doing. As much as I don't like giving Men The Master the benefit of the doubt, I also like to spot any reasonable doubt that could get him off the hook. However, when watching the video later with the audio on, you can clearly hear someone call the floor over to help the dealer count out the two pots (main and side) AFTER the moment Men is seen pulling chips back in. That strikes me as shady no matter how you slice it. Shouldn't Men be leaving that alone to let the staff count?? The weird part is that this should never have affected Smith. Any dealers, please correct me, but it seems she (and the floor) should have first counted out Smith's stack, then pulled those same amounts from each of Foutty and Nguyen. Throw in the SB, BB and BB ante, then Smith has his 15 BB stack as it should be. If anything, it should have screwed up Poutty: when divvying up the split side pot, Men had already pulled some of his chips back, meaning the dealer splits a smaller amount than it should have. Regardless, I was absolutely hoping that there was camera footage FINALLY showing Men's cheating at the table. We've heard rumors and allegations for years now, but that's all they have been. Pretty disappointed nothing more came from this.
@jimbo98765
@jimbo98765 Месяц назад
Maybe pulling back chips can be seen as a bad look for Men now that there's this controversy. But he can pull chips back all he wants, he can pull some back and leave some out, what happens next I speculate is the dealer not really counting the pot and just pull the chips left out by Men. Stupid dealers, pretending to count. So sad, but players gotta do everything themselves in their own head and see if they agree with the pot size and watch out for any slack or cheating.
@rubbertoad3681
@rubbertoad3681 Месяц назад
These were my thoughts. There should have been a pot made with Brian's chips matched by the other 2 players with the blinds and antes included before any flop is done. There shouldn't have been any of Brian's potential chips in front of Men. If the side pot was not figured out before the flop, the dealer just has to grab the right amount of chips from the 2 players to match Brian's chips. I have no idea how this situation got to the point it did.
@agoo7581
@agoo7581 Месяц назад
If you are a serial cheater, you never deserve the "benefit of the doubt".
@given0fox968
@given0fox968 Месяц назад
I’m here for the comedy, and this was gold!
@ShinuriGaming
@ShinuriGaming Месяц назад
Wow Doug. Catching that headset was SMOOTH!
@spaffron4285
@spaffron4285 Месяц назад
Are you really going to search someone's personal items because they were cooking fish? It's not like they were caught doing lines of coke with scales and baggies everywhere
@howard5992
@howard5992 Месяц назад
It's a weird comment on her part. No context. Who entered the room ? Hotel staff ? Poker officials ? When did they enter ? When were the chips supposedly seen ?
@spaffron4285
@spaffron4285 Месяц назад
@howard5992 exactly... there is absolutely no reason they would be looking for tournament chips in the room because they were having an unauthorized fish fry
@rafaelpedrosa9218
@rafaelpedrosa9218 Месяц назад
Indeed, the real crime is jamming J5s UTG this deep into such a large tournament 😮‍💨
@6thwilbury2331
@6thwilbury2331 Месяц назад
Meh, I understand it... 4.5x starting stack, plus the presence of the BBA affects both his fold equity now and the stack size he'll have on the next deal (2.5x). Mathematically, I think the bottom of the suited jack shoving range for that spot (4.5x, UTG, BBA) is more like J7s or J8s. J5s is obviously below that threshold, but it's not egregiously bad. If the table is playing tighter than it should - e.g. because everyone is getting reseated in a few minutes - maybe it widens the shoving range a click or two. Plus, Harrington wrote about that whole "first-in vig" eons ago. This might have also played into Smitty's decision, too.
@donaldpaluga
@donaldpaluga Месяц назад
Why? J5 is better than J4, AMIRITE?-Robbi Jade
@willjay6943
@willjay6943 Месяц назад
Maybe he really likes jackson five and has memorabilia and shit
@johnabbottphotography
@johnabbottphotography Месяц назад
Just wanted to give you props for protecting your dealers, and dealers in general. They need to be right 100% of the time, or at least be ready to admit when they counted wrong. Its a hard job when you have a bunch of people watching you count, and they always want you to count faster. Thanks for recognizing that abusing a dealer is absurd.
@yonaschemeda3497
@yonaschemeda3497 Месяц назад
The master of RU-vid poker is back and I’m happy!
@maxbarnes3967
@maxbarnes3967 Месяц назад
nice catch
@RAtZ133
@RAtZ133 Месяц назад
Cooking fish? Oh you mean literally?😁
@StuartFerguson55
@StuartFerguson55 Месяц назад
Lmao
@bryantkapono420
@bryantkapono420 Месяц назад
It's crazy to me that the WSOP still can't get these tournaments right
@thekushzilla
@thekushzilla 20 дней назад
ty for ur coverage doug
@AllTheSmoke90
@AllTheSmoke90 Месяц назад
Dealers are supposed to count the chips from every player in the hand after each round of betting all ins included yeah?
@ItsEverythingElse
@ItsEverythingElse Месяц назад
What?
@Chukk61
@Chukk61 Месяц назад
The dealer should have first pulled in the $4.5 all in from the other 2 players for the main pot. Then determine which of those 2 had the least left and pull that amount into the side pot from the 2 remaining, motion for the balance to go back to the rightful owner and THEN finish dealing. Men is a known cheat and angle shooter, but if the dealer does the job correctly, it doesn't become a factor.
@TetrisPimp
@TetrisPimp Месяц назад
Amateur dealers smh
@88mphDrBrown
@88mphDrBrown Месяц назад
I've seen a lot of single pot all ins where they just count what's effective, then divy it up after they know who won. Players probably prefer this so they spend half the time counting chips. The dealer definitely should've set the main pot before doing anything else. My guess is that with 20k entrees they probably hired and trained a bunch of dealers who had no experience.
@blazeron12
@blazeron12 Месяц назад
Drama hour with Doug Polker. Keep it up Doug
@Jahwobbly
@Jahwobbly Месяц назад
There are games I won't play anymore and I know of others (including some very generous fish) who stopped playing at one venue because cheating was tolerated. Ban this guy.
@arpadna660
@arpadna660 28 дней назад
anyone knows the name of the song in the background at (for instance) 1min35sec ?
@MeYouWhosWho
@MeYouWhosWho Месяц назад
Once a VC always a VC
@Bartokomous
@Bartokomous Месяц назад
Fish and no Chips
@jluchette
@jluchette Месяц назад
This is clever Barto
@davidsoliz5735
@davidsoliz5735 Месяц назад
Yo is the lodge coming to San Antonio?
@hsreG12
@hsreG12 Месяц назад
Ever since Doug became a dad the dad jokes been on point. Wonder if the next Upswing poker class is on this.
@dustyguadian7570
@dustyguadian7570 Месяц назад
If he does he should hire me for masterclass. 5 kids , ages 19,16,14,4,3. My tag line would be “I’ve experienced all the bad beats, so you don’t have too” But for real I could probably make amazing course.
@MrKydaman
@MrKydaman Месяц назад
More Bububububububreaking News!!! Nice, its been a good week. 😁
@petepal55
@petepal55 Месяц назад
If Men had any of his "family" around when you went outside you'd be fighting all of them, not him.
@JeremiahLanders
@JeremiahLanders 11 дней назад
I played with Nguyen for 5 hours on day 2 of the colossus this year. When big chips were 500k and he already had a stack of 100k chips, he randomly asked the player to my right to chip down the only three 500k chips. Then proceeded to claim he gave them 5 chips and the player owes him 2 more 500k chips.
@scott_M14
@scott_M14 Месяц назад
That gives new meaning to the phrase “ saving a bet” 😂😂
@obiwankenobi07
@obiwankenobi07 Месяц назад
Stole first!!
@MotormikeyD
@MotormikeyD Месяц назад
You Nguyen 🎉
@roneilbalani1539
@roneilbalani1539 Месяц назад
I played a few days of 20/40 mix mostly short handed with Men last year. Over less than a week he tried to take back bets he owed dozens of times. And he tried to pull 100s of angles. He was heavily drinking too, but I have no doubt thay this isn't just accidental behavior. He also played terribly lol
@ForeverFreeLibertyyy
@ForeverFreeLibertyyy Месяц назад
Love the " Brrrrrreaking news" headphones 🎧 pop off and the smile... That's a great opening!!! Keep it up GOAT
@twassell25
@twassell25 Месяц назад
The jokes were so bad, i didnt even get them.
@guerro327
@guerro327 Месяц назад
Maybe Smitty should have stayed at the table and watched the pot instead of running around like a bozo.
@mrhumble2937
@mrhumble2937 Месяц назад
Emotion good for the game
@charliechan6827
@charliechan6827 Месяц назад
MEN, THE CHEATER, should be banned worldwide!
@NguyenBon504
@NguyenBon504 Месяц назад
How do u know he is cheater? Did you see he cheat?
@charliechan6827
@charliechan6827 Месяц назад
@@NguyenBon504 In this day and age, your comment is an absolutely stupid comment!
@davidoconnor1773
@davidoconnor1773 Месяц назад
I had no idea Men Nguyen was not lifetime banned from the WSOP!
@americansantacruz6080
@americansantacruz6080 28 дней назад
This happens too much and people get too excited and don’t get their money right. It’s on you to not get cheated.
@theWATRpodcast
@theWATRpodcast Месяц назад
16:29 I mean he is Asian so probably knows some Kung fu... 😃
@ignatiusee3564
@ignatiusee3564 Месяц назад
They should sack the stupid dealer
@Dreamagain11
@Dreamagain11 Месяц назад
They are already short dealers because they refuse to give them better pay or hours, so shitty dealers are all you gonna get.
@sTEALtooth
@sTEALtooth 11 дней назад
So moral of the story, try to never play with Men Nguyen, and if you do, never leave the table for one second and make sure you watch him the entire time.
@anthoniegriffin
@anthoniegriffin Месяц назад
The clip of the guy jamming into Ryan Feldman then saying “you know I joke” always brings me to tears😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@hawaiiboy2826
@hawaiiboy2826 Месяц назад
Maybe stop excessive celebrating and watching your chips
@MrTrust333
@MrTrust333 Месяц назад
100%, gotta protect yourself first, pay attention
@urty24
@urty24 Месяц назад
How is watching your chips going to help? Men didn’t take chips out of his stack; he just pulled back his entire 25 million before the dealer had a chance to pull 4.5 mil out. If this is on anyone (other than Men) it’s on the dealer for not pulling all the bets into the side pot.
@katastrafika5253
@katastrafika5253 Месяц назад
Yeah but you don’t get likes 😂
@nickirving7857
@nickirving7857 Месяц назад
Stop watching your chips?
@Tritiuminducedfusion
@Tritiuminducedfusion Месяц назад
We have to watch the dealers to make sure they do their jobs? 🤡🤡🤡 take.
@RobiOne313
@RobiOne313 Месяц назад
What’s the link for those shelves on your wall? I want to buy some like that
@Oli-Barrett
@Oli-Barrett Месяц назад
Why are we not talking about that headphone catch in the beginning. Absolute masterclass of nonchalance.
@AlexXanderMarketing
@AlexXanderMarketing Месяц назад
Clearly the brand new dealer didn’t square the pots before the all-in runout. Once the board was dealt, she either asked the players to take back the chopped side pot (which was never squared) or more likely, Men chose to revolve his own bet knowing the extra 4 million was still in his side pot stack which actually belonged in the main pot. Either way, Men knew exactly what he was doing. He’s been at this game far too long to feign ignorance.
@JuJu916JuJu
@JuJu916JuJu Месяц назад
If he’s been caught cheating over the years and the WSOP know how he is, how the F is he still allowed to play in the WSOP ?
@corysatx8730
@corysatx8730 Месяц назад
will we be able to play day 1 flights for mega monster at the new lodge in san antonio ?
@dasc5161
@dasc5161 Месяц назад
Pretty obvious solution. 1/ ban Men from all events 2/ fire the incompetent dealer This behaviour is rife on Asian tours (has happened to me personally). All the gangsters in Phillipines/Vietnam do their lame sleight of hand constantly and get away with it as the floor staff are also gangsters. At least in the US you should be able to have consequences for cheating.
@matthewmorin5209
@matthewmorin5209 Месяц назад
Easiest thing ever. Count Men’s chips.
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