He Told Me I Would Fail As An Artist ...Because I'm a Woman 

I still have a few more holiday hand-embellished goodies in the store! www.etsy.com/shop/EmilyArtfulOriginals Get some Emily Artful Merch Today! crowdmade.com/collections/emilyartful I realized I didn't explain that I'm from the San Francisco Bay Area and that is why I'm so bitter about the tech takeover. I still have respect for overall technological growth on a larger scale, but the takeover displaced so many wonderful people and small businesses that it put me off to that whole world. Also, I get a lot of comments about my hands/fingernails being white/purple/blue. I have Raynaud's Syndrome and that causes the blood flow to my outer extremities to be poor. It's currently cold as balls (cold balls?) where I live so that plays a role, but also I consume a fair amount of caffeine and that triggers it as well! So don't worry, I'm not dying, I just have shite blood vessels!

Whoa never knew people could be this close minded

As an art History student is say this man’s assessment about women in arts is super incorrect. Artemisia Gentileschi is one of the very important Italian artists of Baroque and she definitely had a daughter if not more kids. Le Brun had kids. Frida Kahlo wanted to have kids, just couldn’t. Yayoi Kusama has a son. Louise Bourgeois, Berthe Morisot, de Lempicka, and many more, had kids. And wow, some women artists opt to not have kids. But I’d say the ratio is closer to 50/50. The reason why people hear less about female artists? Most people used to learn the most about art through school, and curriculums, usually made by men, heavily favoured men. Yes, the art world is incredibly patriarchal (and much like this tech bro, disguises as woke). But that never stopped women from excelling in art and selling art. There’s a lot to be said about women historically operating more from home and selling to closer communities more than man. But that could be a dissertation topic and I don’t wanna throw out some half baked claims lol

Even if you DID want to be a FAMOUS artist, hIsToRiCaLlY sPeAkInG, classic artists were 99% men because women weren't allowed to do it. At least publicly. To the point where to this day the "credibility" and "autheticity" of some women artists is STILL debated. Also, Arnold sounds like the type of person that doesn't have anything to do outside of work, and is proud of that...

Bruh, people who think graphic design isn't a real job, should immediately stop engaging in all forms of content they use and consume. Those cute app icons on your phone? Graphic design That nice movie poster? Graphic design The signs you see on the side of the road? Graphic design

Wooooooow…dude is clueless. Has he heard of ANY female artists who lived in the past 200 years??? Also, those colors are gorgeous!

I genuinely don't understand why creative jobs aren't seen as actual jobs unless you're working in a big ass corporation like Disney

No man has ever ACTUALLY played "Devils advocate" Thats a dog whistle for "I'm covering my unwashed ass on this so no one gets mad"

My daughter, who is a video game artist, put up with a smug start-up bro for almost three years until she finally had enough of his gaslighting and quit. But she still collected a percentage of royalties on the game because it was her art. He texts her 6 months later saying that he was cutting the agreed upon royalty from 5% to .5% or she could sell the rights for $2500, because the artwork was suddenly, “not good enough.” I told her to send back a text, “I’ll have to run it by my attorney.” Obviously not the answer he wanted to hear. Because he expected her to roll over and do what he wanted. After many ranting texts, pleading texts, all sorts of manipulation, she finally sold her rights for significantly more. And she learned a valuable lesson about smug, start-up bros: when you start your ground, or threaten them back, they will eventually fold.

Something that I noticed is that stereotypical "feminine" things like music,acting,art and cooking are viewed to be less masculine when a man does it as a hobby or a female does it as a hobby its right and accepted , but once it reaches a professional level then it's respectful and amazing when men do it yet when a women enters the same level of professionalism she "can't handle it" love ur videos btw 🥰🥰and sorry for the rant

Omg nothing peeves me more than someone saying that being an everyday artist isn't a "real job". Like, screw you guys. It's a real job. 😑

Ah yes, because womanly hands just can't handle the extreme weight of the paintbrushes! Their feeble eyes can't cope with the strain of all those colours!

Start up bro are professional employees and worry about “being hired” rather than working for yourself and reaping the benefits. These play it safe types only are professional employees because they love the frat bro environment. Personally I love working for myself and i won’t go back to working for anyone.

I loathe people who think they know the field better than the person who is actually the one in the field. Sigh.

"you're an artist? What does that entail?" "I make art, Arnold."

I always find it amusing when men ask women if they've considered how hard it would be to pursue their career or anything in general as a woman. Like. Oh my gosh it's almost as if I live the life of a woman everyday and and have to face it constantly. Or that it's one of the first things that everyone brings up when I mention my career choice. Why thank you sir for bringing to light so belittlingly what I constantly struggle with while you use it to your advantage.

This is common in the art world, not just the because you’re a woman thing but the entirety of “you’ll never be an artist” stuff. This currently, right now, strangles many kids who make an artwork, see that it isn’t realistic, and then have a teacher or some other individual tell them that they are bad which makes said child grow up never having learned how to draw and having a massive internal roadblock in the way of them learning to create art.

You have everything that Shanon wishes she had and I think she’s mad jealous; actual artistic skill, a good family, etc etc

Sorry about creepshow. Honestly i think you should just take the situation to court to and this once and for all

Sounds like one of my former friends who thought she was a better author because she looked at wetpad and wrote majority smut. She said because I have a learning disability I can't be a serious author. Also she idolized some Japanese Rock band called Alice 9 a bit too much.

I had to mentally roll my eyes because I can't stop watching how Emily puts such care and beauty into femininity. Using flowers with human hips breathes such beauty to me. Keep creating Emily!

That is a BRILLIANT letting technique! Looks like a typewriter or printing press. I never thought of doing that.

Such a fantastic drawing and great advice. I was an Electrician and can't count the times I was told I couldn't do the job because "you're woman". Just made me dig in and prove them wrong. And I did, time & time again. Even did it better AND got paid more than alot of the men on top of it. Don't let people tell you what you can and can't do. Dig in!

When people are being this persistently rude and argumentative with you, call them on the behavior. Don't engage with the argument, but tell them that you don't like how they're speaking to you. Do not tolerate their disrespect disguised as discourse, they're bullying you. I call people like these Fartsniffers, it was hilarious that Emily made the same connection. Lovely artwork as always ❤ Ps, just channel Anjelica Houston in Ever After when you call them out. 'It is your MANNER which offends.'

See and this is why the community needs Emily. She's had her fair share of shit, and yet.. Here she is. Being brave, telling stories. Coming back and teaching lessons alot of people can use. I know myself that the words at the end.. Will really help me. I don't *need* others to compliment me, I need to see my own strength in art.. And, well. Other things. Thanks Emily for your wonderful artwork and your great story.

Spite is a great motivator, I was applying for a college and the teacher looked at my grades [which were awful] and was like *sniff* "You won't be able to apply to this college, not with these grades." And the look on her face when I was in one of the classes the next year with better grades than what I had.

Last I checked, artistic mediums are near-universally dominated by women.

Eugh. The thing that bothers me is the whole 'famous artists' bent of this - like it's only worth pursuing a creative career if you can make millions and be the most famous person to do it. It's okay to just want to make a living wage doing something you enjoy. That thinking is something I've spent the last few years trying to unlearn myself.

If we're talking statistically, Arnold was probably in a worse position to advance his career, and I find that hilarious. The entire (financial) point of social media is for as many users as possible to be on the site for as long as possible in a day, and I'm going to say MOST people have a passing interest in art. On the other hand, only so many platforms are going to preform well, and that means only so many IT personnel is going to be required at a given time to keep those select platforms operational. Millions of potential customers out there for an artist on social media, increasingly poorer pay and more cut-throat professionals willing to do it all and more just get their foot in Google's door... Just looking at it realistically, he really should have a back up plan outside of IT work if he really wants to advance his lot in life and not get stuck in a no-name, no-pay position. It's not that I'm not supportive, I'm just playing devil's advocate.

Honestly, most of the hateful & discriminatory shit I've seen comes from the self professed woke folk. I'm proud of you not only for proving this asshat wrong, but also for being you

Hooooly shit this is insufferable. The part where he shushed you with his hand and his friend laughed had me enraged. The audacity.

Hey love, if you see this i really hope youre doing okay with everything thats happened these last few days

Who the hell made Arnold The Tech Guy an authority on marketing independent artists? What a jerk.

Emily please please please stay safe my love!

"Sorry I sound major bitter. That's because I am😊" Emily kills me 😂

This is really eye opening bc i can tell when ppl have talked to ME that way about being a musician, and i didnt consider how condescending it was until now. Like, its infuriating and when it gets to you it sticks for way too long. I'm realizing now that the guy I was talking to most recently was actually a startup bro. He literally told me he was from California and worked in IT...

This story reminds me of a “girl at a bar” and sketch which each guy is hitting on this girl pretending to be a work feminist just to get with her.

You did the right thing when you walked away. You would never have "won". In his mind, he was right, you were wrong, and this cute little girl should just shut up and do what the big man tells her. ugh! I hate patronizing man-splainers!

god it reminds me of a time when some sophomore bio major girl in my writing in the arts class talked down on me because I was a sociology major. At the time, I was getting lunch outside of the university and she was with three other freshmen and she introduced me to them (because I was a senior at that point) and when they asked about my major I said sociology and she deadass said "yeah she's never going to make a dime in her life haha" and honestly I was too shocked to say anything. I was happy the other two were like "hey thats not cool" and she tried to play it off as a joke but like damn that was so uncalled for. Either way she found out later I knew how to paint/draw because our writing class was based around art and when I presented my artwork she was like "you should draw me something" and I remember saying "haha yeah no" and never talking to her again lmao.

Once I showed my grandma a painting of Shoto Todoroki and she asked me how did I do it. I told her I used the carbon method and when I explained it she said “don’t you think that’s cheating?” I said “no may artists use this technique and also I just used the sketch I still painted it with my hand” then she said “that’s still cheating” This is one of the few incidents with my grandma and she caused me to have a bunch of insecurities about myself but just to shorten the story this is one of the incidents Oh also she can’t even draw a stick figure to save her life

Does this guy not realize that most artists...are women?

'I'm just telling the truth...' 'I try to be realistic here...' 'This is the truth, I'm saying it anyway, if it hurts you, I can't do nothing...' Yeah...tell me you are a toxic ignorant without telling me you are a toxic ignorant. I think it's better you didn't stood there to defend yourself, not woth it and maybe he would have hurt you more. You're an artist, you do you. P.S. Love the chromatic palette.

How is he even in the IT industry with that kind of logic. I bet he has tons of bugs in his code

"I'm gonna call her Becky........" Me: "Please say Apples!" "....Apples." Me: *claps IRL* "YES!!"

One thing that kind of bugs me with people like this, is when you mention you want to do something in the art world like, art, music, writing or anything like that and they just assume that you want to be famous when it’s like… No you can make those a normal job without being famous lol

I applaud your patience with this guy.

Emily is like my internet mom, I’ve watched her for so long and she’s helped me so much I’m very thankful for her

I need to show my daughter your channel. She has a bit of a dark sense and sense of humor and I’d show it to her to show her that artwork can be a bit dark but also beautiful.

While you were telling that story all I could think about is how low Arnold's statistics are to be famous as a start-up bro... like the overwhelming majority of start-ups fail lol. Also hate the way he acted like he knew more about art when he was talking to a professional artist. on another note this artwork is gorgeous! And I always love when you add metallic accents

The "Low income to who Bitch???" had me in stitches. I truly love your channel, not only are you an amazing artist but you talk about these serious topics with the type of humour that really resonates with me. I too see headlines and have the urge to yell out similar things ending in bitch

Someone who considers themselves “progressive” while being sexist is like someone saying they’re smart while actually being a literal cannoli. Btw your art is so cool and you’re amazing and never forget that ( ^ω^ )

Just here to tell you to keep on keeping on! I know these past week must have been rough. We got you girl!

Ugh, the little Christmas animation is everything ;v; Also: wow!! Your presentation style is so funny- you make a really uncomfortable topic (sexism) seem amusing, so that’s really great! :D

This piece is stunning. Reminds me of my chronic pain. Thank you. Will it be in your shop?

Happy New Year’s Emily Artful 💜 We got your back.

Emily: "Why women can be successful artists" Me who just got yelled at by my art teacher because I drew a fish: 😢👀

Wanted to show support after the attempt made to expose you for past bad choices and mental health struggles. You deserve to move on and find your peace and joy. She cannot take from you the hard work you've done to overcome your past and your inner "demons" (so to speak). You are more than your past choices and internal struggles. Well wishes and happy new year. 😊💚

Sending much love your way Emily. Stay safe out there. I hope this will all be over soon and they leave you and your beautiful family alone.

I have a similar story: I forget what the initial conversation, but we were talking to someone about finances? Or careers? Idk, but his wife gave "unsolicited advice" and tried to look for jobs for us at one place by texting a friend of hers. When that friend said, "idk if we have any positions open" she sent the screenshot of that conversation to my husband and added, "you guys chose the worst majors." (I am a costumer and he is a pianist.) Another time during grad school interviews, I was given a lot of comments along the lines of "you have no idea what you're doing" and "we're only looking for people who are serious about this" Boy, I was discouraged initially, but those kinds of comments really fire me up now. Oh yeah? Here I am laughing from my chair at my full-time job as a costumer.

somewhere arnold is hearing this and taking responsibility for all of emily’s success

People like that drive me up the wall. Absolutely frustrating as all heck. On another note, was completely enamoured watching you paint the butterflies! So pretty!

I legit imagined the "Smug Alert" episode of south park where they fart and inhale it. That's literally Author. Also the amount of patience you have is amazing, cause I would have walked away and told him to fuck off LOL.

Apparently Shannon really doesn't want to lose her channel's monetization lol We stand with you!

Havent watched yet, but i know its awesome and that guy was a douche bag!! Love you girl DONT EVER STOP!

Landlords be like: "Oh look! People are making more money! I HAVE to have some of that, I'm going to raise my rents, take the same percentage of their income I was when they were making less so that they STAY broke and I get rich! This is awesome!"

People have told me I can’t do art because I’m a girl. I go too school and find all the support I need! My friends and classmates don’t care! I do art I feel TOO well! My friends always say I should be an artist but I have other passions. I wanna tell anyone who gets bullied because they say you can’t do something, well go do it anyways!? If you don’t like it don’t do it! But if you wanna make a passion then do it! Don’t stop what you love!

I probably would have reacted the exact same way, but now that I have what I call my “post-2021 personality,” halfway through this video I was already thinking I’d be saying “I don’t remember fucking asking you to mansplain my art career to me” and chucking a drink in his face 🤣

I hope you're ok today. And I hope you know how loved and supported you are, not just in your personal life but in this space of RU-vid. We all see through that nonsense that happened today. Happy new year. Stay strong

“Art is the weapon.” - Gerard Way Remember this quote, Emily, if people try to undermine your artistic ability, please create your heart out to prove those start up bros wrong.

One of the biggest things that I admire about you is that you bring up your motherhood in context of your career a lot. It's so wholesome & wonderful to hear about little glimpses into your home life. Raising a human being is a REALLY hard & underappreciated full time job; so doing your art & following that passion on top of that.....amazing. You're a very inspiring artist. And I hope that you & your art continue to thrive. [hope the same for myself too lol]

They work in IT but they are pretty oblivious to the world online... Full of artists making money doing art... They remind me of university kids... University and college isn't as big of a thing as it is overseas, not everyone goes so most of the kids going act as if they're all it... Looking down on others who ended school with graduating high school or only took a shorter (1-2 year long) course to get a degree after hs.

Wanted to come by your channel and drop a happy new year you have been through so much dear and I hope this year is better happy new year I love your content always and forever!

Emily heads up Shannon's back! She's trying to accuse you of framing her!

👏🏻 SUCCESS 👏🏻 IS 👏🏻 THE 👏🏻 BEST 👏🏻 REVENGE 👏🏻 The amount of times I’ve had conversations like these because being an artist is hard, but it’s also not impossible. Most of the conversations I have come from places of love and genuine concern but that doesn’t mean it’s not hard to hear sometimes. I am not monetized on RU-vid but I think it’s such a cool way to share art and connect with people and I look up to you so much and all you’ve accomplished. Love you and the community you’ve created here! 🖤 PS I got my Crafty Bitch beanie and it’s my favorite ☺️

The more they want to put me in a box, the more I want to break free...that really resonated with me Emily. It moved me. Thank you

I had to pause the video. The reenactment of his speech to you made me so mad. Like who is this fool? Who is he to give you advice? THAT YOU DID NOT ASK FOR ugh 🙄. You're nicer than me. I wouldn't have even shown him anything or continued the convo. The amount of attitude this man would have received.... lord have mercy

I just had to share my experience: I was in my first tech class and the professor bragged about how feminist he was and then proceeded to say "I don't want to see any men helping women at all because they're so capable. I know you see them as a damsel in distress cause we are biologically made to believe that, but don't help them." He also had us do a "diversity" discussion with a weird rule that women can't talk about sexism in tech because they're women 🤦‍♀️

At 9:07 I am so mad that I can't keep on warching. Kudos to you that you were able to sit thrugh this :D

I hope you are okay. And I want to remind you that Majority of people have your side in this situation and know that she's full of shit. I'm sending a lot of love your way

Just coming to your page to show you love! You are amazing, beautiful and kind. Sending you light and love in 2022

I hope your doing well, sorry about the whole creepshowart thing. I definitely only support you on that whole sitution, Shannon seriously is gross for trying to go for low blows for no good reason and not even proving herself right out of the whole 2 and a half hour video. She is truly pathetic and needs to grow up.

I've been told that because I'm an artist, I'm going to hell. Because I'm impersonating "god" by using my imagination and creating my own worlds. And people wonder why I hate organized religion.

12:02 honestly that was probably the best thing for you to do in the end. Arnold reminds me of those people who love to argue, create conflicts with people and demean/belittle them for any reason whatsoever. Sometimes it’s better to just walk away from people like that and be the bigger person, because all they thrive on is conflict and drama

Came for the drama. Stayed for the content. This is one of your best videos. Very sex and the city vibes. Loved it! I'd love to hear you tell other peoples stories. Pretty sure every body would have half a dozen juicy stories haha

Thank you for not only sharing this story, but what you learned from it. Your message at the end damn near made me cry. 💕

I love the Centaurworld reference. Also, just you in general. Hope you have a wonderful holidays ❤

Omg!!! This story is so triggering!!! The mansplaining is the worst!!! Men have traditionally been more successful at art because PATRIARCHY! I once had a conversation with someone that told me women have it better in the work force because they have the option to sleep their way up. He truly believed this…it was horrifying…

Gosh darnit, I wish I had this video to see 15 years ago. Maybe I would have stuck with my dream to go into art, and have graphic design as fall back. Instead, I now have to try and wriggle my way into being a graphic designer so I can maybe one day live of my art... Great video is what I am trying to say^_^

They say if a woman even touches a paint brush with the intention of making art, it disintegrates in their hand /j

I love how you incorporate bones in your work. I love skeletons (especially skulls)

Yeah when a dude tells me he's a woke feminist its a huge Red flag to me. Men who really are dont feel the need to proclaim it.

I can't believe people told you, that you would never be a "real" artist. I've been watching you since I was in 10th grade (in my second year of uni now) and I've learned so much from your art and you! I love your unique creativity. Alot of your art work reminds me of surrealism which is such an amazing style. I love your work and your dedication to your love of art 💕💕💕

I hope you sell a print of this piece! It’s so striking. I really admire your ability to take people’s bullshit and grow a garden. I appreciate how grounded you are and can’t wait for more.

when you were stamping my mind went: “oh she’s gonna stamp eat, there’s an ‘h’ so hate… oh ‘he’.. heat? how does heat.. oh heal” also i love the story and lesson learned from it! i’ve had people tell me, “are you sure you want to be an artist? do you have a backup plan?” so hearing your story was relatable and inspiring for a want-to-be artist! :)

Sounds like my dad without the alcohol on views towards art in general and females with it, "You're female so you can't..."

I'm just gunna drop in RQ and say that I've never personally experienced this whole notion of people saying "men this and women this" type of minds. But honestly the best advice I've noticed with scenarios similar to this. Is simple. Forget what they say. I've been doing art for as long as I can remember and yea I've met toxic artist and some genuine artist. But there's assholes in all aspects of the world. But what are they gunna do? Love for art isn't going to suddenly stop because of some bitter person.

This conversation is just putting me in a worse mood each and every second... you are amazing Emily!!!

I live in SF. This hit home, for sure. I’ve just recently seen success as an independent artist, but every day I fight my own thoughts of doubt. I’ve got this!

i find it interesting that those kinds of people always care more about productivity, salary, and success more than the job itself. it’s not a bad thing to want to be successful or live comfortably or be recognized for the work you do, but a lot of these guys see their lives as a numbers game. to me, if i can live with less wealth or popularity doing what makes me happy, that is what i should be doing. money is important, and financial stability is important, but i find a lot of this crowd forget it all means nothing if they aren’t content. it’s not “wasted potential” for someone to choose a low paying creative career over a high paying job right out of a 4 year college. not all jobs are for everyone, and everyone has different wants and needs. it’s weird that so many people assign their value or worth to how much they contribute to the economy. this ideology was something i grew up with, but i started to realize what makes me valuable can’t be measured. don’t let anybody force you to lead a life you don’t want, you have the right to be happy doing what you love :)

Hey just a question, are you going to do a new video on creepshows response? It’s honestly ok if you don’t want to since she hurt you in so many ways