I like the fact that this talk takes emotions into consideration, it was only awhile ago I heard someone talk about the sort of struggle enviromental scientists go through for the first time, not something I had considered before. Good talk.
I have been dealing with losing what I love for a long time. Someone suggested I embrace my pain and anger for what it was: a deep love for all life, for which I had trouble including humans, whom I blamed. Doing better now.
Thank you! This is one of the most important lectures I have seen since... since..., I don't know when! Very important and so pressing. I signed up as soon as I finished watching and would love to take part in peaceful civil disobedience in my country. There is no time left to loose... No time at all!
Thank you so much for this incredibly powerful talk. This should be mandatory viewing for everyone on the planet.... The grief is so intense and as you say in layers and yet whatever time I have left I will do everything I can to be a part of the movement that brings about changes to at least try to reverse or slow the dreadful impact of human choices.
I love her heart and maybe for some, this is the best way. For me, it has been all about eliminating the commute from my daily life (i.e. living where I work, working where I live), eating vegetarian and organic and hardly ever getting into a fossil-fueled vehicle. For me, THIS is direct action. The result is that I am healthier than almost everyone I know, look about 10-15 younger than my age, and am fairly happy with my life. The only thing I miss is the community of shared experience, meaning because I am one of the rare people living like this, it can be lonely. But if you step off the bandwagon and join me, I will feel less lonely. Oh, and I make and drive electric-assist tricycles! Which for me, is the greatest source of joy in my daily living. I think the irony of this crisis we are in is that people hear all the fear around climate change and they actually think that life will be worse if they make the necessary changes, when in fact, it gets better. That's the real tragedy of this mess that we are in.
@Donald McCarthy It indeed helps to question the social status attributed to flying. I love flying and believe that it is one of the things that will ultimately spur world peace; this, our ability to experience so many radically different cultures in a lifetime. But too often, people fly for business-- when teleconferencing could work-- or to an exotic locale to lay on a beach, just to impress their peers. There needs to be an increased recognition of the ecological burden of excess and unnecessary travel (that includes long work commutes).
@Donald McCarthy And it is interesting that you say that my life choices don't matter, when it in fact is the only thing that DOES. After all, I can't control what you or anyone else does, nor the choices that you make. Never underestimate the power of conscious choice.
Good. Same lifestyle here. Same thoughts as well: people do not realize that happiness is intimately connected with a balanced lifestyle and that conversely, living like a slovenly glutton results in misery. I want to go further: vegetarian to vegan, eliminate single-use plastics, buy only thrift durable goods. But yes, I love my bike ride to work every morning! I am 61 years old and my girlfriend is 21. We run together, but I have to wait for her. I am the thinnest in my office (I work in mass-transit) where most of the men look pregnant. I am rarely sick. I am rarely depressed except that I feel sad for young people.
Back here in April 2022 to say that this is probably one of the most relevant talks in history in the shaping of our fate. It definitely changed my life. Sadness, grief, love and rage. To rebel for a higher law is both legitimate and necessary. Rebel for Democracy, Rebel for Life !
Can you for one moment ponder the possibility that you're the creator of that world, Selin Cacao? By removing yourself from it, you're dismissing your role as steward of life on planet Earth. That's what love is about too, you know?
SERVE SERVE SERVE. I LOVE YOU GAIL. Really it is time for all of us to look inside and remember GOD. This will happen to us all eventually anyway, Remembering GOD. But usually it happens to us humans when we are on our knee's. Well, on mass we are very close. We are very afraid of dropping the body. The GOOD news is WE ARE NOT THIS BODY, WE ARE CHILDREN OF GOD. But for now, while we are in a body, SERVE SERVE SERVE
A very motivating and inspiring talk......however it is upsetting to note that the figures regarding puffins are wrong. Whilst it must be true that their population is decreasing globally ( some breeding grounds report their absence) - the actual figures MUST be different to what you have suggested. At Skomer 2018 the Wales wild life trust reported a 'bumper' year with 30,000 birds up 22% from the previous count in 2017. What worries me is that whilst we want to make a stand it is important that we receive and then disseminate accurate information.
Hi all, I am all for social disobedience if there is something to leverage. I think having clear demands for the ruling few is very important. Unfortunately, I don’t believe the leaders have an idea about how to solve the crisis that faces us all. (Cf, the 4 Horsemen). An uprising happens from below, by which we consider ourselves below the power initially. I am not sure that is true. We are already the “powerful”. I propose that our power and the solutions can be manifested by people who are part of the Rebellion and people who want to see ecological and economical changes by disengaging from the economy on mass for a few days. Consuming as little as possible and not taking part in monetary exchanges or working. With this free time, we could show decent and nurture solutions in one go by coming together as communities, or small groups of people where we live locally. We could, in those few days, behave as if we already live in a non monetary sharing, caring and innovating economy. This could create great leverage on the leading elite, and give a lot of people a chance to rethink how we can live together on the planet. Also, it would give us a chance to change our perspective on our unsustainable economical systems.
Totally agree with what is said but I have one major question. Yes the government used to be the most powerful actors when we had world war. But today other actors, like Google, Amazon, etc are more powerful than any state government. We should not just ask governments. Even more in the "global south" where some states are really powerless compared to business world. So I agree part of the solution comes from government, but also we should be aware that a lot of the system is managed by private actors. So civil disobediance with our bankcards, boycott, refuse to buy, refuse to pay :)
The recent speeding up of the warming is way more troubling then I thought it was. Everybody who sees this has to do something. Even if it was something small, let the top echelons of the power structure know that you care about this.
Summary: We are currently 1 degree above pre-industrial level temperatures. The aim of The Paris Agreement is to limit warming to 1.5 degrees, however we currently only have a 1% chance of achieving this target. 2 Degrees? Only a 5% chance. Most likely the earth will warm about 3.2 degrees with the following horrendous consequences: Domino effect runaway “feedback loop” systems triggered. For example, current tells us that all Arctic ice will be gone by 2023. Less ice means less ice to reflect back the suns heat and more areas of ocean to soak up heat from the sun. Warmer waters mean ice melts faster. Above about 3 degrees the Amazon starts to burn down, forests become net carbon producers not the carbon absorbing “sinks” they are today, there is massive crop failure and so rising food prices, rapid desertification and flooding. 1 in 9 people will be forced to migrate from land left underwater by 2050. Fascism will rise if not stopped - and all of this while fighting against an individualistic, consumer culture tending to act selfishly and follow others like sheep towards catastrophe. What has the UK Government done to help? They have done the opposite of help, cutting green initiatives while giving the go ahead for the third runway at Heathrow and subsidising fracking. The solution? The adoption of moral and virtuous ethics, requiring compassion, bravery, grief, and non-violent direct action over hope in the form of well organised civil disobedience - enter: “Extinction Rebellion”. Will you be able to look your children in the eye and say that you did everything you could?
Abrupt Climate Change & FeedBacks & Tipping Points. There is nothing linear about anything in living systems except Humans False Perception of their ability to control Living Systems. The third derivative represents jerk, or change in acceleration. Jerk is a little strange to think of because it feels a lot like acceleration, but certain systems may have parts that accelerate so rapidly, and the acceleration itself is also increasing (especially from or to a dead stop). {\frac {d^{3}y}{dx^{3}}},\quad f'''(x),\quad {\text{or }}{\frac {d^{3}}{dx^{3}}}[f(x)]. Great discussion! Thanks,
I've been to meetings like this for other topics. The tactics are always the same. Maybe if all of you went on hunger strike, it would feel impactful, but I for one don't think writing on buildings and making big signs will do much. If shit's as bad as you say, well, all is lost already. Not even Martin Luther King's methods or principals will be strong enough. You are talking about shutting down the entire global economy as we understand it.
13:57 -- There is a good reason why the Permian-Triassic extinction event closely mirrors what is happening today: the carbon we are putting into the atmosphere is the very same carbon that caused the Permian-Triassic extinction event 250 million years ago. It was scrubbed out of the atmosphere by the megaflora, and eaten by the megafauna. When they died, 64 million years ago, the carbon got stored as coal, crude oil, and methane (natural gas). It remained in the ground where it was not causing any harm, until some idiot human came along and said, "Look at what I found." Now, we are putting the carbon that caused 97% of all life to go extinct back into the atmosphere, where it can cause 90% of life to go extinct, once again. And on top of it all, the idiots who have driven us to the point of extinction were paid a ridiculous amount of money for doing so. But that makes sense, murdering 7.5 billion people is a lot of work.
@@sr-astrophysics Getting rid of modern-technology would be good though. Though I would agree that it's not feasible, too many people have a fondness of technology and the increased living standards if affords them, and a large number of people would simply not have the means to survive without it.
That's an interesting perception apart from the last part. Of those 7.6 how many would be alive without the mode of production we have had? perhaps not more than the pre-industrial peak of about a billion. If I die as a result of climate change I will not consider that murder (maybe negligent homicide given that we could have prevented this situation) but as the flipside of being at the end of a long series of large litters of children who all survived. The murder victims will be the unknown billions who will never be born. The dead outnumber we living about 15 to one. By how much might the yet-to-live have outnumbered us if we'd given them the chance.
WTH! we got too many as it is.Becoming more conscious of ourselves and relationship with environment would help.Quality over quantity@@hamishsutherland3926
its nice to see that other people accept and seek out reality. I'm a housewife, mother, gardener, cleaner......typical. But as soon as the subject of climate comes up my views give me the title of conspiracy nut. But I did study science and I accepted that there was a real threat the day I learned about feedback loops.
Trees literally cannot capture the amount of CO2 we put into the atmosphere... even when we are cutting them down... Did you also know that not only CO2 causes climate change?? Methane and Water vapour are just a few of the thousands of chemicals causing it... I don't see trees sucking them up...
From what I know: carbon capture technology (artificial) is more efficient (per square meter of ground space) than trees. However there is little or no financial gain to this activity, except for the saving made to societies if it's not done i.e. aversion of catastrophe. So unless lots of tax is collected to fund carbon capture then it won't happen on a large scale.
This is not just as simple as the old mercury tube climbing. So much more. The planet that we live is about to change in drastic ways. No one can tell you exactly but it will both be unexpected and catastrophic. Atmospheric circulation and water distribution will change almost overnight. The comfort years will shortly be over. I wish everyone luck and do prep as best you can.
Thank you, Gail Bradbrook! This is the best, most inspiring, helpful and motivating video I have seen in years! It gives me hope and it inspires me. You give me consolation, that I am not mad or insane in my grief. You give me hope that there CAN be done something about it. And I feel less alone now, than I felt before. Let's do it. Or die trying (well, we'll die anyway... so, as was said: It is up to us to decide whether we just leave a stain on this world, or a mark). Big love and thank you!
don't worry the cure for ourselves is us, we're the dumbest species on earth which destroys it's own support system, the problem is that so many other species have gone extinct and many more will disappear with us, because of us..
@@iriyabran At some point in the near future our hubris is destined to collide with the humility imposed by the boundaries of an unforgiving reality and our greatest insight might be that we were always the the greatest threat to life on earth during our brief moment in the sun.
And all of you trying to say humans are are the virus neglect simple facts. Humans today give us the perfect example of sustainability. Why don't you try to learn from them? They have a 4-5 million year record after all.
Grief inducing and scary but ultimately inspiring and this is what I’ve been looking for to channel my feelings of being ‘just one person’ and being powerless to help. Thank you.
The paper saying we have only a 1% chance of hitting the Paris 1.5 C target is for CURRENT POLICIES We are currently headed for 2.0-4.9 °C, with median 3.2 °C, already well below "business as usual". By increasing our pledges we can reach 1.5 C. India is already nearly 1.5 C compatible, a country with population nearly as large as China. The EU is considering a target of zero emissions by 2050 and if it adopts that it will also be 1.5 C compatible. www.nature.com/articles/nclimate3352
I've read that if we planted enough trees, we could counteract as much as 2/3 of all carbon released by humans. Maybe there's still hope, and the solution has been right under our noses all this time?
@@Galdethriel I don't know exactly and precisely and I challenge 'all good scientists' to think carefully about what is necessary for our planets survival. I would imagine that all large mature broadleaf deciduous trees sequester and recycle carbon adequately under normal conditions (now we are under abnormal conditions) ~ but how many of those do we have now and how many should we have planted some 50 years ago when all this was starting to happen... and how do we terraform our globe now with trees - to address as such? Calculating the breathable necessity through growth - I would imagine is not easy and quite possibly inaccuracies exist... (?). Now its all become seat of your pants stuff and I for one have enough headaches trying to understand the logic of others in considering technologies as we use them inadequately or over adequately... Certainly I would rather have trees than carbon capture machines any day and would rather save on essential resources to keep things in the ground... but there are many out there who will say differently... the idea of 5G has become a reality and it sucks - so dealing with all other parameters for preservation of wildlife and biodiversity is a real nightmare - when Governments won't listen to common sense we have a real problem on our hands :-/
@@Galdethriel My very astute scientific minded friend has only recently been introduced to THE VERY SERIOUS situation . And after a week he came back to me pretty stressed after giving it a bit of thought . He said the two big things we need to do NOW ARE get all the unemployed [plus any one else who wants the job doing it ]should be employed planting trees and the we need to build plants that turn sea water into usable water that can be brought directly to areas of drought.
I'm on my way to translating it into Italian. Let's encourage people to spread what is being said here in all the main languages. English is spoken worldwide, this is true, but billions of people do not, and to reach them too is of paramount importance.
I'd like to know how many and who (if they're still living) Americans mocked Al Gore and his movie, "An Inconvenient Truth"? That was the last chance we had to get serious and perhaps have made a difference. Rather than react accordingly and take the right path, the US Government did everything it could to do the opposite of that. And most of America (anyone who drives, flies) went happily along with it, content to wallow in the ignorance and propaganda that was (and is still) pumped at them. The Senate and Congress were paid and directed by the perpetrators of course, but there is enough guilt here for all of them.
A very informative and action-inspiring presentation. Just one contextualisation , the figure on puffin populations. I was so shocked by this that I went online to find out more. The figure of 33,000 puffins dropping to 570 is in fact in 20 monitored islands across Shetland. Whilst this is a tragic trend, in other parts of the UK puffin populations are reasonably robust, although puffins are included on the RSPB 'Red' list of vulnerable bird species. For example on Skomer Island off the coast of Wales there are 31,000, up from 14,000 in 2013. So its bad, but not as bad as that figure suggests.
Thank you, Tessa. You've just done something which I'm very much in favour of; i.e. gone off and checked some facts and sent a contextualised/corrected version 'out there'. One of my bugbears is the practice of just repeating unverified/de-contextualised statistics/facts!
Our puffins in Norway have problems reproducing, because they have to look longer out to sea for food. You can't just count the older birds, you have to look at habitat, habitat, habitat.
@@vichara0 And I'll bet it's only one of your bugbears when it involves an opinion you disagree with, am I right? If it's an opinion you agree with, you don't care if they just pulled the statistic right out of their ass.
I hate confrontation. I'm very much a pacifist and rather not stir up trouble unless I can't handle the problem anymore.. But this.. This is something I have to stand up for. I can give up driving, I can give up Skyrim and Internet and all these other pastimes, but if I don't stand up and contribute to this, that's checkmate. That's the end of humanity, possibly with only the morally-questionable wealthy people surviving. Of all things you need to fight for, no matter who you are, we need to fight for the protection and sanctity of this planet..
That graph by ArctischePinguin using polynomials to extrapolate - that's just not how you should do such things. A second degree polynomial which is upside down like that one will ALWAYS give a future projection to zero - and if you extrapolated it backwards it would extrapolate back to zero ice extent some time in the nineteenth century. I don't know who did this graph but it is not a scientific approach. You need to watch out as there is a lot of junk science in this topic area. You can't even use a straight line to project, not if you don't know what the cause is. It may be a dip that is going to rise again, it may be a multidecadal oscillaiton of some kind in the Arctic ocean. You just don't know if all you are doing is fitting a graph to data points with no scientific modeling to understand what is going on. 14adebb0-a-62cb3a1a-s-sites.googlegroups.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas/grf/piomas-trnd1.png From sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas
This was an informative presentation. Unfortunately the reality of our situation is painful but we must accept that the life on this planet will cease unless rapid and aggressive changes are made. I was very disappointed that there was no mention of geoengineering and how it is lowering our chances of survival exponentially. Check out geoengineeringwatch.org. Peace!
There is a complete disconnect between what is at stake and what we seem to be prepared to do about it. In times of war we've offered our lives, today - with the future of the planet at stake - we won't sacrifice 1% of GDP. We need to start doing whatever it takes.
A fantastic talk. Extinction Rebellion, through its incredibly well-organised, well-researched and self-aware forms of global protest and public education, have given me and many like me a new sense of power as agents in our own futures and that of generations to come.
For the record the world has already warmed up above the 1750 average temperatures by 1.73°C. All this talk about limiting the Earth's temperature at 1.5°C is pure Bullshit.
They'll humour you as long as you're not seen as a threat. But heaven help all you nice caring people once the 'system' really does feel threatened and the gloves come off :-(
Yes, you're right. But don't worry, we will never be a "threat". Give people a choice between this video of sincere and honest people, versus a PR video promising endless consumption and constant instant gratification. Over 90% of people will choose the happy lie. History is replete with people choosing the comfortable lie.
That's one of the best presentations I've seen, I've come to the exact same conclusions, so I might be a bit prejudiced in my diagnosis of the content. Great job, and a great job articulating, diagnosing, and executing. We probably won't stop this process, no one knows for sure, but some of us can't be stopped from trying, either by society, or ourselves....We must give up the idea of winning, and embrace the call to action....Tick-Tock....
A SUMMARY OF THE MAIN CAUSES OF ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE These can be summed up as - 1. Increasing temperature due to melting of Poles 2. Over population - which necessarily destroys the habitats of other species and uses up natural resources. 3. Pollution - pouring poisons into the sea, and into the air These 3 main causes have led to a loss of habitat for many species, and/or the poisoning of their habitat. We have taken away their habitats and in some cases have replaced it with a factory farm, where they spend their entire short lives in horrible conditions. THE EFFECT OF MELTING OF THE POLES 1. THE ICE WILL MELT The ice at the poles will all be gone by about 2023 - resulting in a warming of the planet due to the albido effect. This is absolutely true. The Ice is actually receding at quite a fast rate - ships can now travel from Alaska to Asia via the North Passage with no problem. 2. THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WILL RISE The most probable temperature rise is 3.2 degree C - though it could be as much as 5 degrees C. Investing in air conditioning may be a good idea. 3. FOREST FIRES WILL INCREASE Higher temperatures will automatically lead to a greater frequency of forest fires. So we will have to manage our forests carefully with frequent fire breaks. 4. NORTHERN LATITUDES WILL BECOME MORE SUITABLE FOR PLANTS AND CROPS Warm temperatures favour some plants. After all a greenhouse can be conducive to growth. Places like Alaska and Greenland may become warmer enabling plants to grow in more northern latitudes. 5. SEA LEVEL RISE AND FLOODING There will be sea level rises causing flooding of low lying areas. Parts of London may be submerged - so property in HighGate, Enfield or higher areas will be unaffected, whilst Chelsea, Westminster will be affected. The resultant migration to higher areas will cause property prises in those areas to explode. Though perhaps 5% of the earths current land surface will become submerged, new land will appear in the South Pole. Many people will migrate to the South Pole - pioneering families volunteering to be the first settlers. So it is a good time to buy up land there. A high degree of melting happened at the end of the last Ice Age, about 10,000 B.C., At that time the sea level rose about 100m causing huge floods. However, there will be much less flooding this time - since there is much less ice to melt. It will be more of an inconvenience since your local area may be flooded if it is at sea level. 6. ATMOSPHERIC ENGINEERING The widespread climate change will convince governments to engage in atmospheric engineering. Seeing as the climate change will be produced by loss of the albido effect, people will try figure out how to create a reflective layer in the atmosphere - a reflective cloud cover - made of reflective particles - a synthetic albido, that reflects a percentage of the heat back into space. THE OTHER MAIN CAUSES OF ENVIRONMENTAL DECLINE ARE OVER POPULATION and POLLUTION Over population literally pulls away the land from under an animals feet. They no longer have any where to live - it is turned into housing, farm land or roads. There is not an inch of the UK where a wild animal can live. Bees are becoming extinct because of this very reason. More land needs to be designated for conservation, regardless of human needs. And population should practice birth control. The government should set targets for reducing the population in each country - not just have a carbon emissions target. IN SUMMARY 1. Set Carbon emission targets 2. Set targets to reduce human population 3 Designate large areas as nature reserves in every country 4. Set targets for all forms of pollution of air and sea 5. Protect species from extinction. We need to care about the needs of other species as much as we care about ourselves.
This talk was the key moment for me - tipped me from being scared and asking why something wasn't being done, to doing something myself and getting involved. #ActNow
Excellent talk, thank you! We in the US really need a movement like this. I only saw a chapter in Los Angeles listed online. Since NYC could be underwater in the not too distant future, I wish demonstrations were enacted here. Even though NYC's billionaire class disown Trump, they are doing nothing to protect the city. The segment in the talk about the hedge fund managers scheming for their own safety was chilling - and enraging.
As someone of Jewish descent (my grandparents converted to protestantism in 1919), I think there is nothing wrong with the comparison between the Climate Crisis and the Holocaust.
Hi friends, we find your comparative to the Holocaust to be accurate. Both events are horrific, albeit to different species. We stand with you in your initial assessment. We do not intend this to diminish or disrespect the horrors of the Holocaust. In contrast, we intend to highlight the horrors of the current era of humanity's onslaught to other life.
Thank you! The newly elected Progressives that will be sworn into the House of Representatives in Congress in January bring with them some hope of positive change, and the fact that people voted for them is encouraging. They will be facing a House and Senate put into their positions of power by Wall Street and billionaires, but they know that and they are fighters. I will do all I can to support them, and live as responsibly as I can.
Fantastic talk and very humbling info. I knew things were bad but never thought we were so close to the edge. I recommend you upload a copy of this to DTube (decentralised channel) in case the powers the be try to remove this! (I’ve also just signed up to your cause)
Do you see how you're left hanging, feeling bad, rinnin? That's never meant to be that way. No one of us is served by left hanging, feeling bad. It's the drive to remain in a constructive stance and to choose actions according to it, that will bring a future about where we'll be able to live in prosperity. We're not heading to extinction as the loss of life on planet Earth. Human sentiments are ruling over the use of common sense and as always, there's no greater joy than to feel connected in an opinion that we're treated wrongly and being deceived. There's a spiritual component missing, within ER and that's an unawareness of realizing that each of us creates his or her reality. Nothing is done to us and when we step into the freedom of choice, we're able to act each moment, while making a new choice when we discover there's a need for it. That's what it means to keep moving. The high of those who demonstrate is a relatively cheap reward, for there's safety in numbers, always. It's actions for change that count, for me. We need to begin to believe in our personal power and act on what we know.
A recent conversation I had with my internet provider about running my Wifi Router, she told me they should be left on all the time even when not in use because the local exchange reduces the speed of routers that are turned on and off, it assumes they are unstable connections and puts them on a lower speed connection. She incorrectly told me that the router consumes no significant amount of power, I found that the power consumption was a significant part of my consumption, even though I use mainly home-generated electricity from batteries. I have refused to leave my router on and it is only on while using the internet, no noticeable reductions in speed have been noticed, however, society needs to challenge this kind of thing, never should devices be left on standby.
We were 'cutting' unnecessary electricity use, then got an EV and installed a 5.1 kw solar system. After a few years, we're back to being wasteful because overall we can generate more than we need. A BFB (Big F'ing Battery) was in the solar design to alleviate that condition but proved too complicated for the Palm Springs building department to approve and inspect so I had to take it out. The local government does everything it can to ensure that everyone follows all the rules exactly, even when they are antiquated or obsolete, as happens in the solar industry every few months. Except them of course, the last administration will be off to jail as soon as the FBI finishes it's 3 year long investigation into the former mayor and his cronies. Meanwhile those guys are still doing $millions worth of business "developing" downtown under a new company name, while individual home owners like me are being ignored or 'deflected'. Lets get together and fight this climate change threat. Someone should tell them that.
@@refusoagaino6824 It is so wrong how you people in the USA are persecuted for just trying to save the planet. Apparently, when Obama was in, many homesteaders were evicted from their own land. I am not sure if you are still having the same problems over there.
I can't watch this when the speaker is looking down all the time (reading notes?) and barely looks at the audience. Not a good presentation style - not engaging. Put another up that's better than this if you wish to captivate and empower people.
The real news brought me information about the London protest. You all did an incredible job. I go numb and I want to act, you all acted. I appreciate it. I want to see more action. Please work with Deep Green Resistance. Thank you
Never taken part in protests before but I'll be down in London on 17th this is too important not to!!! I need to go to Manchester short notice and I can't afford the train/coach... This should not be allowed to happen at this late stage in the day. There are many policies to reduce emissions and technologies that the government are not supporting or implementing- WHY??? It's so selfish. We're all shitting on our own collective doorsteps.
I'm signing up. Just to say, at the end the speaker says that Utilitarian ethics is all about doing something to achieve a result, but fundamentally, utilitarianism is acting for the greatest good for the whole. Even if it means acting in your own apparent worst (short-term) interests. The greatest good for the greatest number of people. So- yes- do something right just because it's right. but this i right because it's for the benefit of the whole human race and every other species on the planet. you can't get much more utilitarian than that.
but what Gail Bradbrook says at the end of this talk is the most inspiring thing I've ever heard: !Virtue ethics: What makes me a good human being? What does it mean to live a good life in these times? Practical wisdom - our heart leads and precedes the actions and decisions. It’s always worth doing something if it’s morally good and the right thing, no matter how successful we’ll be. “Courage is the resolve to do well without the assurance of a happy ending.” We’re talking about traditional values, orientated towards service to community, duty, responsibility, honour and the desire to be a worthy ancestor. In fully understanding that we’ll die one day, it could be soon, wishing to fully live a meaningful life and in facing the risk of life on Earth dying, to step forwards and be willing to offer our service to something bigger than ourselves, to life itself. To some it’s a basic orientation of our spiritual expression, the part of ourselves that understands what’s sacred. Take a minute to ask yourself, what does it mean for me to be a good human? What does it mean to die without regrets? Will you be able to look your grandchildren in the eye and say you did what you could?
Rather than seeding the atmosphere with chemicals to induce rain, as is being studied in the USA, why not everyone go vegan where possible? Give the land, forests and oceans back to wildlife and we will sequester enough carbon to take our climate back to the 1700s. Or, would we rather focus on stopping fossil fuels, which will not solve climate change alone. Or, maybe we want to see what technology comes up with. No one who doesn't live on the coast should be eating sea life. Save on ice for shipping, save transportation and save lives.
Suggestion. There needs to be a clear explanation of annual mean/average temperature. To most people "1.5 or 2 " degrees don't sound like much. Like saying "today it is 21 C. and tomorrow it will be 22 C." Most people are too innumerate to understand mean or average as applied to climate.
"Over consumption, especially by the rich", is very misleading. The rich in this statement refers to all people in the west, not just what we here regard as rich. On the global wealth scale almost everybody in, for example the UK, mainland Europe, North America, Australia, Russia, etc, is rich.
Let us assume for the sake of argument that climate change is a problem, and needs to be addressed in a few decades at most, probably less. OK, so what actions should we take? Inevitably the response will be that we have to tax carbon so as to subsidize more wind turbines and solar panels. However, we've been installing renewables for over 20 years, and presently they supply about 7% of world electricity, or around 1% of total world energy. Even if we assume that most of the deployment was in the last decade, this still means that to go '100% renewable' would take 100x10, or a thousand years at current installation rates. This doesn't take into account the additional costs and time for building of energy storage of some as-yet uninvented kind to smooth out the intermittency, but let's keep things simple. Even if we upped the installation rate by twenty times, it would still take until 2068 to go 100% renewable. Which by some accounts would still be too late. Costwise, our current global spend on climate change mitigation is about $1.5 trillion ($1500 billion) a year. Or about half the GDP of the UK. Imagine ramping-up that by a factor of twenty. $30 trillion dollars a year, and a total cost of $1.5 quadrillion dollars, assuming no inflation. No need for science, simple commonsense should tell us that this cannot possibly work. (These are approximate figures which might not be very accurate, but hey, they are so far out of the ballpark that it makes no odds if they are even 50% off.) -So, if the road we're on is the road to nowhere, are there any other routes we could take to zero carbon energy? Well, yes there are. The most expensive fusion research project, ITER, requires about $30 billion dollars to complete. That is just under six days' worth of the current global climate action spend. The CEA Cadarache team presently don't have enough funding to complete the project until 2027. Let's give them the funding to do it sooner. Much, sooner. Also, there are other much cheaper fusion projects which are desperate for cash. Let's get them rolling too. If you think fusion is too long a shot, then Thorium LFTR was tested in the 1960's over a run of several months. No need to ask if it works, we know it does. Whilst not as ideal as fusion, this offers a radically cleaner and safer way to do fission energy. The cost? A few billion to build a test reactor. Maybe a day or two of global climate action funding, tops. So, why AREN'T we investigating ALL possible solutions? A breakthrough is what's needed, and that won't be achieved by flogging the proverbial dead horse. When faced with the rise of totalitarianism in the 1930's, we put our best minds to finding ways to defeat the numerically stronger armies of the Axis. Not all of the ideas put forward worked. Enough did work, though, that we gained the advantage and defeated the bad guys. We need to take the same approach today. A Manhattan Project approach, if you like. Not for weapons this time, but for clean energy that works. What we are actually doing right now, is the equivalent of assuming that we could defeat the Luftwaffe's ME109's by building enough biplanes. And, that if it patently isn't working, then we need to build even more biplanes. No, we need the Spitfire.
This comment is a perfect example of why the ecosystem will collapse, humans will go extinct, and nobody will do anything. Just keep rationalizing everything away (and don't forget to mention Hitler!).
My problem is that having decided that I would like to protest, I was asked to get a 'ticket' from Eventbrite, which is a US based capitalist venture enterprise bent on making profit. As far as I'm concerned, that totally undermines everything XR stands for. I don't need a ticket to protest. I just need to turn up. XR is mired in the modern-day necessities and niceties of the internet age. Protest needs numbers which will provide images which the media feel compelled to publish and which will immediately impress the uncommitted that there are substantial numbers of people who are committed and need to be considered. Otherwise, the vast majority of people are going to dismiss your protest as an Easter Holiday festival for the mildly disaffected privileged few which can be laughed at and ignored.
I was cut off with the most important part of what I'm saying. If we all can participate in our democratic rights to gather together on public land - we must be let to do so. We have systematically been social engineered in our region of the Northern Rivers, our transport cut off that we had in the seventies. All our political parties are supporting 'rail trails'. The media only let those proclaming 'rail trail' have their say. "Rail is DEAD" is what is said inside Social Futures - a NGO that is supposed to support people with disabilities has applied for university help in building commercial housing and boutique businesses on the railway land. The rail line goes through Bentley where a CSG mining license was 'bought back', but Greens I spoke with - as a member - poo-pooed the idea that the railway line could be used by a CSG mining company as they are 'jubilant' of their 'win'. Legislation is coming up from next week in NSW parliament that will change the protected railway corridor into unprotected land that can be sold. We have laws from last year that make arrest easy for people on public land, but when CSG mining corporation buys this it will just be impossible. We are like under house arrest. If we are not able to drive, we have a very expensive service, impossible for thousands to use, that provides us with restricted, apartheid transport. We do not have the freedom to mix with all the different groups in the region. We cannot attend demonstrations and so on. Those who are more able and speak in public and who wish to be politicians - query us! Indigenous people at Cubbawee settlement, no doubt worked for nearly nothing on the railway, and it is an insult that the railway will be destroyed and no=one will have free and affordable access throughout the region and to Brisbane our nearest capital city. We must have a common land - a safe zone to meet. The Lismore railway land has been going up for auction. Indigenous are already protesting a housing development nearby, but we, the people with disabilities can not stay out in the cold -without support. We must have a sit in and get world attention - no-one can believe our situation. Cognitive dissonance runs supreme here. No-one wants to see the impending terror that can happen. I'm a refugee from the Joh Bjelke-Petersen regime of seventies Queensland that would not allow people to gather in the street. Julian Assange can tell you about this. What could happen is far worse given the technological terrorism possible today.
A horror yes but also our great destiny this rare opportunity with new scientific marvels unfolding before us daily, biggest event in all history during this our time. My advice is relax survive marvel love help everyone.
"rare opportunity with new scientific marvels unfolding before us daily" Technology is what has created ecosystem collapse. Technology is the new god you pray to to save you from extinction.
About a minute of audio was edited out around 33:00, for reasons mentioned. Unfortunately that leaves the audio out of sync with the subsequent video, slides and captions. Editing the video to match would be good.
It is difficult at times to understand what Dr Bradbrook is saying. She faces away from the camera or looks down to her notes, and her voice becomes muffled. It will help convey your message if you can fix this.
Sadly many of their videos have that problem. If they want to get their message across then they really do need to work on their presentation skills. Several of them appear to be academics so they should have been trained to give talks and seminars etc. There's a vital difference between being 'informal' and being inept.
This should be the primary preoccupation of everyone. It has been for me the past 15 years during which I have year-by-year reduced my carbon/ecological footprint with the goal of net-zero. Please pay attention!
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Actions are users, unless we know where we're going. Capitalism has to end, period. Unless we're calling for that, and advocating an alternative system we're no achieving anything.
Plz be careful not to use the Russian Revolution & bloody civil war as an example of peaceful protest. You risk othering the experience of 200 million people. With you on 99% of your agenda, substitute some of the famine stories ( thanks for acknowledging the Soviet Red Army POWs’, appreciation) but you need to use & own the English created famines: Bengal India especially, Africa, Australia. Owning your countries’ own wrongs wld earn you nothing but respect, otherwise you run the risk of sounding patronising & colonising. Generally stay well out of other countries’ internal politics & focus on that which unites us, the common goal of getting CO2 emissions down to zero by 2025 & divesting from Corporate greed.
Would be happy about links to citations in the video's description. Some are findable via the given citation in the presentation. Cant find the source for e.g. The Melting of Ice in Greenland and Antarctica (10:10) Other ecological pressures (12:00, Numbers are not in the Science 2013 Editorial Text)
Hey guys! You act on a wrong continent. Go to Africa and India. All waste goes there straightly to the ocean. And population grows there incredibly fast. Africa doubles its population every 60 years. Africa today 1,2 billions. India today 1,4 billions.
taken from the blog post of Douglas Rushkoff concerning his invitation to talk at a meeting of five super wealthy investment bankers from the upper echelon of the hedge fund world. quoted in the above video at timestamp 20:40 Survival of the Richest The wealthy are plotting to leave us behind Last year, I got invited to a super-deluxe private resort to deliver a keynote speech to what I assumed would be a hundred or so investment bankers. It was by far the largest fee I had ever been offered for a talk - about half my annual professor’s salary - all to deliver some insight on the subject of “the future of technology.” Which region will be less impacted by the coming climate crisis: New Zealand or Alaska? Is Google really building Ray Kurzweil a home for his brain, and will his consciousness live through the transition, or will it die and be reborn as a whole new one? Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system and asked, “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The Event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, unstoppable virus, or Mr. Robot hack that takes everything down. This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from the angry mobs. But how would they pay the guards once money was worthless? What would stop the guards from choosing their own leader? The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers - if that technology could be developed in time.
We've had municipal dry wells in PNW well we are well known for tons of water; the Columbia river, etc, but in 2021 we had four counties east of the cascades reporting wells gone dry or at high risk of going so.
'Someone' is not pessimistic? “It is likely that climate change will exacerbate food insecurity in many parts of the world, especially in the developing tropics, but even under the worst-case scenarios (e.g.10-20% yield declines of staple crops, combined with gross income inequality, political instability, and continued high population growth rates), it is hard to conceive how the death toll would exceed tens of millions or, at most, the low hundreds of millions. Of course, a potential death toll of tens of millions is gravely alarming and should be treated with great moral urgency. But I do not believe it is helpful to grossly exaggerate the predictions that have been made. It should also be noted that: (1) Many temperate regions will likely see increased crop yields under future climate, due to warmer temperatures and the CO2 fertilization effect. Depending on the extent of global trade and cooperation, these yield increases could help to partially ameliorate decreases experienced elsewhere. Many agricultural impact projections don’t include the CO2 fertilization effect, due to uncertainty, but in reality this effect will probably help soften the blow of climate change to some extent. (For example, global wheat production may be more likely to increase than decrease; Liu et al. 2018 Global Change Biology1.) (2) Food production and distribution is greatly dependent on policy; it is not an inexorable biophysical process. It is within our current capabilities to produce and distribute enough food for the 10 billion people who will likely be alive in 2100, if we reduce wastage, eat more plant-based foods, increase the efficiency of production, and ensure more equitable distribution. Climate disruptions will make this more challenging, but by no means impossible.” 'For example, over the historical period of global warming, technological advancements have increased yields by 100-200% in spite of any negative impact of climate change. Even if this yield trend were to reverse, the total production of calories might not be affected if economic forces cause more land to be used for agriculture. In other words, if yields were to be reduced by 10% that does not translate directly into 10% less food available. It is likely that the reduction in yield would stimulate increased land use for agriculture. In this example, if 10% more land were used for agriculture, total production would remain unaffected. All these factors would need to be reckoned with before one could make any credible projection of reduced food production in the future, much less a projection as outlandish as “…starvation of 6 billion people”.' climatefeedback.org/claimreview/prediction-extinction-rebellion-climate-change-will-kill-6-billion-people-unsupported-roger-hallam-bbc/
A million people could go to jail and nothing will happen. Going to jail motivates people to give people rights that others have, but it will take a gun pointed at most people to eat bugs in a cave and go back to cooking over dry dung. But as rich trust fund children who don't have to work you need something to do. Good luck getting the world to go back to horses.
Here's a feedback loop that few climatologists are talking about. The absence of floating arctic sea ice will be replaced by large ocean waves that mix warmer waters with cold fresh waters that will further melt the shoreline permafrost of Greenland and the Siberian coastal (shallow) waters. We don't get much news coming from Siberia on this side of the single planet we all live on as we check local gas prices every day just to make it through the week. I wouldn't call my couch on fire a problem. Any politician that doesn't use the word emergency describing rapid global warming will not get my endorsement or vote. I'm alarmed and so should you be. I am an alarmist for MANY good reasons folks.
As a supporter of ER l am painfully aware that should what needs to be done get done, things will still only get much worse. Making a system more efficient increases its use (Jevons paradox).
